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GTripp0012 05-20-2008 08:04 PM

Around the NFL: Cowboys Extend Two; Schweigert Released
 
[url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=11&entry_id=26657]SFGate: Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Breaking news: Raiders cut Schweigert[/url]

PFT reports that a Marion Barber extension is valued at 7 years and 45 million, which is Portis-type money. Risky, but if he stays healthy, he'll be worth it.

Terrence Newman got 6 years and 50 million with 22 guarenteed per Adam Schefter. Not quite Samuel money, but just a hair below which seems to be market value for a #1 corner these days.

GTripp0012 05-20-2008 08:06 PM

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[url=http://www.atlantafalcons.com/News/Articles/2008/05/11-20/Falcons_agree_to_terms_with_quarterback_Matt_Ryan.aspx]Atlanta Falcons | News | Falcons agree to terms with quarterback Matt Ryan[/url]

Matt Ryan just got a six year deal. With slots one and three signed, it shouldn't take long for Chris Long, and the rest will fall in to place. No holdouts necessary.

SeanTaylor21 05-20-2008 08:34 PM

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I don't think that Marion Barber really deserved that much money, he hasn't really been a full time starter, he had some good numbers, but he hasn't ever been a full time back.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-20-2008 08:36 PM

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For me, I think his numbers were skewed quite a bit. I think he was merely an average runner and didn't even think his numbers were that great.

SeanTaylor21 05-20-2008 08:39 PM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;449333]For me, I think his numbers were skewed quite a bit. I think he was merely an average runner and didn't even think his numbers were that great.[/QUOTE]

Didn't he have like -4 yards on like 10 carries against us?

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-20-2008 08:52 PM

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I would pick up schweigert

GTripp0012 05-20-2008 09:38 PM

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I like Schweigert, and for the right price, he could help this team. He would actually play the run much better from the SS position that Doughty plays than the FS position that he played in Oakland.

He could cover the pass a lot better than Reed, but if he did sign here, he would probably still back Reed up.

SeanTaylor21 05-20-2008 10:12 PM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;449345]I like Schweigert, and for the right price, he could help this team. He would actually play the run much better from the SS position that Doughty plays than the FS position that he played in Oakland.

He could cover the pass a lot better than Reed, but if he did sign here, he would probably still back Reed up.[/QUOTE]

I always thought of him as a Adam Archuleta Jr., not to good in coverage, miss tackles, and got beat out by some guy named Hiram Eugene, who didn't play a game the year before.

LandrySlice 05-20-2008 10:30 PM

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We need another Safety, Doughty isin't gonna cut it, although Landry is so nasty on his own that if ST could do it with moderate help, why can't Landry?

GTripp0012 05-20-2008 11:13 PM

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[quote=SeanTaylor21;449348]I always thought of him as a Adam Archuleta Jr., not to good in coverage, miss tackles, and got beat out by some guy named Hiram Eugene, who didn't play a game the year before.[/quote]Arch would have been a great signing...for the right price.

If he was making 2 million a year instead of 6, no one would have cared if he wasnt good enough to start.

GMScud 05-20-2008 11:29 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;449329][URL="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=11&entry_id=26657"]SFGate: Raiders Silver and Black Blog : Breaking news: Raiders cut Schweigert[/URL]

PFT reports that a Marion Barber extension is valued at 7 years and 45 million, which is Portis-type money. Risky, but if he stays healthy, he'll be worth it.

Terrence Newman got 6 years and 50 million with 22 guarenteed per Adam Schefter. Not quite Samuel money, but just a hair below which seems to be market value for a #1 corner these days.[/quote]

I definitely think Barber is worth it. He's a TD machine. He led NFC RB's in 2006 w/ 14 rushing TDs, and has 2,760 total yards and 33 TDs in 3 seasons despite always sharing carries. Plus he's never really been injured, playing in 45 out of 48 possible pro games. He's only 24 and rather fresh with less than 500 career carries. And it's not like he's going to be asked to carry 30 or even 20 times a game since Dallas drafted Felix Jones.

So in my opinion they locked up a durable, hard running, TD scoring, young RB for a good price ($16M in guarantees). It [I]was[/I] Portis money 4 years ago when Clinton signed his contract. Take into account inflation/salary cap escalation, and it's really not Portis money anymore. If Barber had the yards/TDs in his first few seasons that Portis did, his contract today would have been much larger.

I think Newman is overrated, but whatever.

GMScud 05-20-2008 11:56 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;449330][URL="http://www.atlantafalcons.com/News/Articles/2008/05/11-20/Falcons_agree_to_terms_with_quarterback_Matt_Ryan.aspx"]Atlanta Falcons | News | Falcons agree to terms with quarterback Matt Ryan[/URL]

Matt Ryan just got a six year deal. With slots one and three signed, it shouldn't take long for Chris Long, and the rest will fall in to place. No holdouts necessary.[/quote]

Ryan's deal was 6yrs $72M ($34.75M guaranteed) as the 3rd overall pick, and Long got 5yrs $57.75M ($30M guaranteed) as the #1. Won't that ruffle some feathers? I don't think the rest will just fall in to place when a guy two spots lower than Long got $13.25M more in max value and $4.75M more in guarantees. I think this could create some controversy, at least amongst the top half of the 1st round.

As far as Ryan's contract, it took Peyton Manning about 6 full seasons of dominance in the league before he got that kind of guaranteed money. The rookie pay structure is so flawed.

mooby 05-21-2008 12:01 AM

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Yep, it's time to argue about how insanely ridiculous rookie contracts are again lol. Makes me glad our earliest picks were in the second round. I think when a new labor deal gets announced eventually it will include a rookie cap of some kind, almost everyone (owners, players) agree that the current system is flawed, rookies are getting paid for potential while veterans have to earn that money.

GTripp0012 05-21-2008 12:26 AM

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Ryan is a Quarterback though, generally they are entitled to over slot money.

Long's deal will probably be worth exactly what other Long's was.

GTripp0012 05-21-2008 12:30 AM

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[quote=mooby;449365]Yep, it's time to argue about how insanely ridiculous rookie contracts are again lol. Makes me glad our earliest picks were in the second round. I think when a new labor deal gets announced eventually it will include a rookie cap of some kind, almost everyone (owners, players) agree that the current system is flawed, rookies are getting paid for potential while veterans have to earn that money.[/quote]The top end of drafts are getting really insane because no team is willing to let their draft pick go unsigned if they can't agree to a reasonable contract.

The Raiders had a perfect chance last year to so with Russell, and now they are going to be kicking themselves for that deal when he starts playing poorly.

Ryan's a better prospect than Russell, but good luck justifying that contract, kid. We can put the Falcons at the bottom of the NFC South for the next 4 years now.

Meanwhile the Raiders have a fearful defense and if McFadden has a Peterson-type year, they are actually a playoff threat. What a wonderful problem--to have to work around the guy you used the first overall pick on a year ago.

Dirtbag59 05-21-2008 12:44 AM

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[quote=LandrySlice;449350]We need another Safety, Doughty isin't gonna cut it, although Landry is so nasty on his own that if ST could do it with moderate help, why can't Landry?[/quote]

Why is Doughty not going to cut it? If you watched the games, Doughty did pretty damn good. Now no one's going to mistake him for a pro bowler but the bottom line is the guy proved that he's a quality NFL starter, otherwise the team would have made a stronger push to add a safety. There was also a Landry-Doughty Strong Safety comparison that showed Doughty having comprable stats to Landry when the games they played SS were compared. On top of that Doughty started only 6 games yet he was one of the team leaders in tackles (6th best with 53).

I agree with you on Landry though. After watching games throughout the year as well as highlight tapes over the past week I have to say that Landry is probably the most violent player I've ever seen, and personally I love it.

As far as depth is concerned, the team has 3 rookies that could end up contributing. Moore was considered one of the best safety prospects in DI-AA along with Corey Lynch, Horton was a well respected safety prospect out of UCLA, and Justin Scott was highly regarded during his time at Purdue. Now Scott might be a long shot, but I feel like the team will come away with at least one guy that proves he belongs in the NFL and in all likelihood Moore is probably that guy, especially considering the sucess the team has had with 6th round picks (Golston, Blades, Doughty).

GTripp0012 05-21-2008 12:49 AM

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[quote=GMScud;449358]I definitely think Barber is worth it. He's a TD machine. He led NFC RB's in 2006 w/ 14 rushing TDs, and has 2,760 total yards and 33 TDs in 3 seasons despite always sharing carries. Plus he's never really been injured, playing in 45 out of 48 possible pro games. He's only 24 and rather fresh with less than 500 career carries. And it's not like he's going to be asked to carry 30 or even 20 times a game since Dallas drafted Felix Jones.

So in my opinion they locked up a durable, hard running, TD scoring, young RB for a good price ($16M in guarantees). It [I]was[/I] Portis money 4 years ago when Clinton signed his contract. Take into account inflation/salary cap escalation, and it's really not Portis money anymore. If Barber had the yards/TDs in his first few seasons that Portis did, his contract today would have been much larger.

I think Newman is overrated, but whatever.[/quote]Great points. I was going to mention the inflation factor, and its something that everyone has to consider in evaluating this deal.

It's a big risk for any Running back. Barbers first three years in Dallas look very similar to Portis' first two years in Denver, so he should be solid into his 30's. But if he gets hurt, and the risk of that is always there, that's a lot of money tied up in a player who isn't helping your team.

GMScud 05-21-2008 01:01 AM

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[quote=GTripp0012;449378]Great points. I was going to mention the inflation factor, and its something that everyone has to consider in evaluating this deal.

[B] It's a big risk for any Running back.[/B] Barbers first three years in Dallas look very similar to Portis' first two years in Denver, so he should be solid into his 30's. [B]But if he gets hurt, and the risk of that is always there[/B], that's a lot of money tied up in a player who isn't helping your team.[/quote]

Injuries are always a risk in football, and more so at the RB position. But paying him less because of the possibility of potential injury (especially when a guy has no real injury history) is even more absurd than the rookie contracts given to guys who haven't ever played one play of pro-football.

That Guy 05-21-2008 05:53 AM

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QBs make more, it'll be fine. schwag is probably going towant more than min and a backup role, so we'll probably skip that whole deal. he could start here, but only until we found someone better... might as well let doughty get his shot, even though he's never going to be a stud, he could be dependable.

and the barber deal is crazy for a back that shares carries... the only lining is that felix was a low round one pick, so he'll only be making about 2mill per for about 5 years...

sandtrapjack 05-21-2008 08:31 AM

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[quote=GMScud;449358]I definitely think Barber is worth it. He's a TD machine. He led NFC RB's in 2006 w/ 14 rushing TDs, and has 2,760 total yards and 33 TDs in 3 seasons despite always sharing carries. Plus he's never really been injured, playing in 45 out of 48 possible pro games. He's only 24 and rather fresh with less than 500 career carries. And it's not like he's going to be asked to carry 30 or even 20 times a game since Dallas drafted Felix Jones.

So in my opinion they locked up a durable, hard running, TD scoring, young RB for a good price ($16M in guarantees). It [I]was[/I] Portis money 4 years ago when Clinton signed his contract. Take into account inflation/salary cap escalation, and it's really not Portis money anymore. If Barber had the yards/TDs in his first few seasons that Portis did, his contract today would have been much larger.

I think Newman is overrated, but whatever.[/quote]
Nice points on Barber, but I would have liked to see the Cowboys wait until about mid-season to sign him. Like they did with Romo last season. Yeah MB3 had stellar numbers as a #2. But facts are facts and he has only been the "starter" for ONE game since being drafted by Dallas. And that was the playoff game against the Giants this year. The team announced him as the starter a week before that game. I would have liked to measure his value a little more as a starter to gauge his worth.

Newman is really not over rated as many people accuse him of being. He is a good corner that some QB's tend to avoid. That is why you see Henry and the safeties with a lot of interceptions, they just do not throw Newmans way a lot.

Another point on my case for Newman. I think we all can agree that Deon Sanders was a great corner during his NFL career. In the 5 years Deon was with Dallas, Deon Sanders had 14 interceptions. Newman, in 5 years with Dallas, has had 16 interceptions.

I liked the Newman deal. I think he is worth that money and it is not an outrageous number like Clements, Samuals or Hall.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-21-2008 08:33 AM

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[quote=GMScud;449358]I definitely think Barber is worth it. [I][B]He's a TD machine.[/B][/I] He led NFC RB's in 2006 w/ 14 rushing TDs, and has 2,760 total yards and 33 TDs in 3 seasons despite always sharing carries. Plus he's never really been injured, playing in 45 out of 48 possible pro games. He's only 24 and rather fresh with less than 500 career carries. And it's not like he's going to be asked to carry 30 or even 20 times a game since Dallas drafted Felix Jones.

So in my opinion they locked up a durable, hard running, TD scoring, young RB for a good price ($16M in guarantees). It [I]was[/I] Portis money 4 years ago when Clinton signed his contract. Take into account inflation/salary cap escalation, and it's really not Portis money anymore. If Barber had the yards/TDs in his first few seasons that Portis did, his contract today would have been much larger.

I think Newman is overrated, but whatever.[/quote]

Like I said, I think his stats are skewed. He's going to get his TDs when he's asked to punch it in on the goal line on every down.

I wouldn't say Newman is overrated, he's a pretty good corner, even though that's a hefty contract for someone almost 30.

GMScud 05-21-2008 01:00 PM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;449394]Nice points on Barber, but I would have liked to see the Cowboys wait until about mid-season to sign him. Like they did with Romo last season. Yeah MB3 had stellar numbers as a #2. But facts are facts and he has only been the "starter" for ONE game since being drafted by Dallas. And that was the playoff game against the Giants this year. The team announced him as the starter a week before that game. I would have liked to measure his value a little more as a starter to gauge his worth.

Newman is really not over rated as many people accuse him of being. He is a good corner that some QB's tend to avoid. That is why you see Henry and the safeties with a lot of interceptions, they just do not throw Newmans way a lot.

Another point on my case for Newman. I think we all can agree that Deon Sanders was a great corner during his NFL career. In the 5 years Deon was with Dallas, Deon Sanders had 14 interceptions. Newman, in 5 years with Dallas, has had 16 interceptions.

I liked the Newman deal. I think he is worth that money and it is not an outrageous number like Clements, Samuals or Hall.[/quote]

I understand you wanting to wait until mid-season to extend him, but then he may skip some "voluntary" workouts or possibly even hold out of training camp.

This whole "starter" thing is a bit overhyped IMO. Just because Julius Jones was on the field for the first offensive play of the game doesn't mean Barber wasn't the primary ball carrier. Last season Barber had more carries, 400 more rushing yards, 8 more TDs, and over 1 yard more per carry.

I think Barber has the potential to be a very good every down back, but with Felix Jones replacing Julius Jones, his role will probably stay the same (except that he'll "start").

As far as his contract is concerned, it's not like you made him the richest RB in football. Not even close. Hell, Michael Turner just got $15M guaranteed from Atlanta and he's been a backup his entire career. In fact, in less time as a pro, Barber has 27 more TDs and over 1000 more rushing yards than Turner. And their contracts are very similar. So the Cowgirls did a good job with this I think.

GMScud 05-21-2008 01:07 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;449395]Like I said, I think his stats are skewed. He's going to get his TDs when he's asked to punch it in on the goal line on every down.
[/quote]

I don't think his stats are skewed. It's not like he's a big, slow, one-dimensional battering ram. The guy has averaged nearly 5 yards per carry each of the past 2 seasons. He deserves the TDs if he delivers them every time he's asked. He's fast and powerful, and catches the ball well. I know, I know, I'm defending a Cowboy, but I think Marion Barber is an excellent back (and he really helped me win a fantasy fb championship in '06).

T.O.Killa 05-21-2008 01:12 PM

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I would love to see the Redskins sign Schweigert. The Raiders could screw up Christmas dinner.

freddyg12 05-21-2008 01:19 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;449378]Great points. I was going to mention the inflation factor, and its something that everyone has to consider in evaluating this deal.

It's a big risk for any Running back. Barbers first three years in Dallas look very similar to Portis' first two years in Denver, so he should be solid into his 30's. But if he gets hurt, and the risk of that is always there, that's a lot of money tied up in a player who isn't helping your team.[/quote]

Will be interesting to see if Barber actually makes Portis money though. According to JLC, Portis has made a ton of cash in his deal through restructures. If Barber is limping a bit in a few years we'll see if JJ wants to pay out the last years of his deal.

I think Newman is solid & a good team guy, he deserves his deal more than Barber does his. Someone said Newman's close to 30, I think he's only in his 5th year, so he'd be 27-28?

GTripp0012 05-21-2008 02:26 PM

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[quote=freddyg12;449428]Will be interesting to see if Barber actually makes Portis money though. According to JLC, Portis has made a ton of cash in his deal through restructures. If Barber is limping a bit in a few years we'll see if JJ wants to pay out the last years of his deal.

I think Newman is solid & a good team guy, he deserves his deal more than Barber does his. Someone said Newman's close to 30, I think he's only in his 5th year, so he'd be 27-28?[/quote]He was the 5th pick in 2003, so this would be his 6th season.

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewmTe20.htm]Terence Newman Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

He will turn 30 just three days before we open the season in NY.

MTK 05-21-2008 03:06 PM

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Barber is a beast, I've always wondered why he wasn't the "starter" and didn't get 20 carries a game. He does take a ton of punishment though. Hard to see him having a long career.

ArtMonkDrillz 05-21-2008 03:12 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;449451]Barber is a beast, I've always wondered why he wasn't the "starter" and didn't get 20 carries a game. He does take a ton of punishment though. Hard to see him having a long career.[/QUOTE]I feel like he seems like he's such a great runner only because he doesn't get that many carries a game. He typically came in to deliever the knockout punch after the D had been pounded a bit. If his coaches really thought that he could have kept that sort of thing up for the whole game I'm sure they would have told JJ to hit the bench a lot sooner.

GTripp0012 05-21-2008 03:43 PM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;449453]I feel like he seems like he's such a great runner only because he doesn't get that many carries a game.[B] He typically came in to deliever the knockout punch after the D had been pounded a bit.[/B] If his coaches really thought that he could have kept that sort of thing up for the whole game I'm sure they would have told JJ to hit the bench a lot sooner.[/quote]The bolded point really isn't true, necessarily. He did play a lot of third downs, but the carries between him and JJ were split pretty equally throughout the season, and not really in any particular situation.

What has yet to be seen is what age/increased workload might do to his effectiveness. He's going to start this year and see 60-70 percent of the touches, so if he holds up this year he can silence all the doubters.

GTripp0012 05-21-2008 03:46 PM

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I don't like the Newman contract because the guy is at his peak right now, and if he plays all the contract (won't happen), he'll be 35 in it's final year.

Relative to the way they Cowboys have built their team, it was probably their only option with Newman was to extend him or let him hit the market next year. But I have a feeling that he's going to lose effectiveness before Dallas is willing to take him out of the starting lineup because of this deal.

Granted, we're talking 4 years down the road, but those years count too.

GMScud 05-21-2008 03:51 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;449455]The bolded point really isn't true, necessarily. He did play a lot of third downs, but the carries between him and JJ were split pretty equally throughout the season, and not really in any particular situation.

What has yet to be seen is what age/increased workload might do to his effectiveness. He's going to start this year and see 60-70 percent of the touches, so if he holds up this year he can silence all the doubters.[/quote]

Why do people think this guy is such an injury risk? Why are there so many "doubters?" He had no injury issues at Minnesota, and has played in all but 3 games as a pro. And the 3 games he missed were the first 3 of his rookie season. He's a young 24 due to his lack of mileage.

I see no reason for anyone to doubt his durability. He may get more carries this year, but will still share time with Felix Jones.

MTK 05-21-2008 03:53 PM

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[quote=GMScud;449458]Why do people think this guy is such an injury risk? Why are there so many "doubters?" He had no injury issues at Minnesota, and has played in all but 3 games as a pro. And the 3 games he missed were the first 3 of his rookie season. He's a young 24 due to his lack of mileage.

I see no reason for anyone to doubt his durability.[/quote]

I think it's because of his high contact running style. Backs like that don't always hold up well over the course of a full season.

GMScud 05-21-2008 03:58 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;449459]I think it's because of his high contact running style. Backs like that don't always hold up well over the course of a full season.[/quote]

I suppose. But he's had the same running style dating back to college and hasn't had any serious injuries.

The thing I don't understand is there has been no indication that Barber will be the full time RB. Felix Jones has blazing fast vertical speed and is a home run threat every time he gets the ball. He'll be in the mix from the start. I'm sure Barber's carries will go up 10-15% over last year, but that's no big deal.

MTK 05-21-2008 04:01 PM

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[quote=GMScud;449460]I suppose. But he's had the same running style dating back to college and hasn't had any serious injuries.

The thing I don't understand is there has been no indication that Barber will be the full time RB. Felix Jones has blazing fast vertical speed and is a home run threat every time he gets the ball. He'll be in the mix from the start. I'm sure Barber's carries will go up 10-15% over last year, but that's no big deal.[/quote]

I don't see him being the featured back either.

RMSkins 05-21-2008 05:37 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;449376]Why is Doughty not going to cut it? If you watched the games, Doughty did pretty damn good. Now no one's going to mistake him for a pro bowler but the bottom line is the guy proved that he's a quality NFL starter, otherwise the team would have made a stronger push to add a safety. There was also a Landry-Doughty Strong Safety comparison that showed Doughty having comprable stats to Landry when the games they played SS were compared. On top of that Doughty started only 6 games yet he was one of the team leaders in tackles (6th best with 53).

I agree with you on Landry though. After watching games throughout the year as well as highlight tapes over the past week I have to say that Landry is probably the most violent player I've ever seen, and personally I love it.

As far as depth is concerned, the team has 3 rookies that could end up contributing. Moore was considered one of the best safety prospects in DI-AA along with Corey Lynch, Horton was a well respected safety prospect out of UCLA, and Justin Scott was highly regarded during his time at Purdue. Now Scott might be a long shot, but I feel like the team will come away with at least one guy that proves he belongs in the NFL and in all likelihood Moore is probably that guy, especially considering the sucess the team has had with 6th round picks (Golston, Blades, Doughty).[/quote]
Justin Scott was released. As for Schweigert I wouldn't mind bringing him in for the right price, but I really think Moore/Horton are going to turn out to be pretty good players for us. Therefore I am not to concerned about Schweigert.

budw38 05-22-2008 09:55 PM

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[quote=GMScud;449460]I suppose. But he's had the same running style dating back to college and hasn't had any serious injuries.

The thing I don't understand is there has been no indication that Barber will be the full time RB. Felix Jones has blazing fast vertical speed and is a home run threat every time he gets the ball. He'll be in the mix from the start. I'm sure Barber's carries will go up 10-15% over last year, but that's no big deal.[/quote] Not many people thought Payton would last 5 years , " he never avoids contact " , too small too run that hard , never runs out of bounds , ect. He only retired as the NFL's all time leading rusher .If Barber can avoid taking a shot to his knee , he could be a damn good back for years ,,,, as long as he is in D , I hope he wears down in December each year . No , I'am NOT saying Barber is ever going to be Payton , he just happens to run " angry " as Payton did .

skinsnut 05-22-2008 10:02 PM

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Check out this article...this guy thinks we should consider Schweigert.

"Stuart Schweigert

Miscast as a free safety in Oakland’s defense, Schweigert frequently took poor angles to the ball contributing to the Raider’s 32nd ranked run defense. The Redskins could use his skill set as key primary depth at the SS position currently held by Reed Doughty. He could cover the TE at a level far superior to Doughty right off the bat. He was just released, and for any team looking for safety help, should be a hot commodity. He’s only going to be 27 this season."

[url=http://mvn.com/nfl-redskins/2008/05/21/players-who-could-help-the-redskins/]Hog Heaven | MVN - Most Valuable Network » Blog Archive » Players who Could Help the Redskins[/url]

SmootSmack 05-22-2008 10:09 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsnut;449655]Check out this article...this guy thinks we should consider Schweigert.

"Stuart Schweigert

Miscast as a free safety in Oakland’s defense, Schweigert frequently took poor angles to the ball contributing to the Raider’s 32nd ranked run defense. The Redskins could use his skill set as key primary depth at the SS position currently held by Reed Doughty. He could cover the TE at a level far superior to Doughty right off the bat. He was just released, and for any team looking for safety help, should be a hot commodity. He’s only going to be 27 this season."

[url=http://mvn.com/nfl-redskins/2008/05/21/players-who-could-help-the-redskins/]Hog Heaven | MVN - Most Valuable Network » Blog Archive » Players who Could Help the Redskins[/url][/QUOTE]

That guy is a member and regular contributor to our forum (so is That Guy)

T.O.Killa 05-23-2008 11:51 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Cowboys Extend Two; Schweigert Released
 
Has anyone one heard anything on Stuart Schweigert.

EXoffender 05-24-2008 03:52 PM

Re: Around the NFL: Cowboys Extend Two; Schweigert Released
 
I do pick up Schweigert in the later rounds of my fantasy draft in Madden. His CTH is pretty high for a SS.


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