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SmootSmack 08-25-2008 10:04 AM

Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
On the one hand, there's the feeling that the starters need to play, play a considerable amount, on Thursday night after the beatdown they took in the only "meaningful" preseason game.

On the other hand, why risk serious injury in a game that is historically the most meaningless of games?

GTripp0012 08-25-2008 10:09 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
Not only the injury risk, but we play on Thursday night, only a week from the Jacksonville game.

I think the offensive starters should get one series, and then come out. The defensive veterans should get the night off entirely.

irish 08-25-2008 10:16 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
The O needs a lot of work. They should play well into the 2nd qtr. The D can play a quarter and be done.

TheMalcolmConnection 08-25-2008 10:22 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
Our offense couldn't get any worse. I just want us to get SOMETHING going, whether it means a series or a quarter..

freddyg12 08-25-2008 10:27 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I voted for 1 quarter, but after thinking about it I'm not feeling so good about the vulnerability of JC the way the line has broken down & he's held the ball.

Remember, Grilliams is their D coordinator & we know he won't hesitate to blitz like mad in a preseason game. He's got a chip on his shoulder after the danny didn't hire him & he might send the house after JC.

Daseal 08-25-2008 10:28 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
Id like to see a scoring drive, but when we get to Jax's 2nd defense, we should pull out our starting O.

mitch e 08-25-2008 10:32 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
Give them the night off. With a short week before the opener I would keep both units fresh.

Hog1 08-25-2008 10:34 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
YES, we cannot begin the season on the heals of Saturdays loss!

firstdown 08-25-2008 10:34 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I voted one or two series but like others worry about injury. If we wouls loose a key player it would do much more harm than the little good that could come from playing.

squrrelco3 08-25-2008 10:36 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
The risks outweigh the potential gains, most likely Jacksonville will not be playing their first teamers anyway, we already dodged too many bullets in the last game, I strongly suspect that most of the team took the night off last week anyway hence the blowout, so what's to stop them from doing it again. We're not going to go undefeated this year anyway, give them the week off and let them start fresh when it counts...

redskinrob 08-25-2008 10:39 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
This team needs to play Thurs. they need to get something positive happening before the opener. A half if needed.

Paintrain 08-25-2008 10:45 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I'd like to see them in there for one quarter, but if they can string together a nice 8 play TD scoring drive I'd be happy with them being done at that point on offense and a solid 3 and out on back to back drives on defense and then let the backups have it.

freddyg12 08-25-2008 10:47 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
what do yall think about the o line? Would you play the starters longer w/Collins & other 2nd teamers? Both the 1st & 2nd team o lines have been getting beat a good bit in pass pro. It's a tough decision to play them & risk injury or put your qb at greater risk.

Ruhskins 08-25-2008 10:48 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I would say maybe a series...the question is how long with the Jags will keep their starters in the game.

Daseal 08-25-2008 10:57 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
[quote]Give them the night off. With a short week before the opener I would keep both units fresh.[/quote]
We play our last preseason game Thursday -- the Players still have a full week to dedicate to NY.

I think the first string offensive line needs to play at least a quarter, maybe a half.

2BIG2BSKINNY 08-25-2008 11:10 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
Certain Players should not play...Portis, Moss, some of the defensive starters who have no great back-up behind them... if they play I don't want to see themm for more than two or three drives or so...

redsk1 08-25-2008 11:18 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I voted for a half but after consideration, I would change it to a quarter. It's a marathon season and an early Thursday game, so about a quarter. Hopefully we can get something going.

redskins5044 08-25-2008 11:26 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
maybe for a series. but i wouldnt be mad if they did play at all. we need to keep everyone healthy for the season, did we just not see our defense hopes for this flash in front of our eyes on sat. taylor could have been done for the season. we need them to focus on the giants not worrying about a preseason game v.s. the jags

hail_2_da_skins 08-25-2008 11:29 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
The starting offensive line should play at least one quarter. They need the work. Key offensive players (Campbell, Portis, Betts, Moss, Randel-El and Cooley) should play until they score, no longer than one quarter. The defense should rest their starters. Emphasis should be placed on basics; blocking, tackling, ...

Skinz4life 08-25-2008 11:35 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I think they should play a series or 2 but no more and I hope they error on the side of caution with any injured players. The game against the Panthers was a nightmare, but no reason to overracted and do something stupid like risk furhter injury to the staters just to make a point.

GoSkins! 08-25-2008 11:42 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
There is no point in the guys playing more than a quarter. If they do, they will be playing against 2nd string guys. What does that prove or help?

BugelDisciple 08-25-2008 11:57 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I think the starters should see limited action. We squeaked by a terrible Jets team last season after getting dominated by the Pats. The last thing we need is a flat offense against the defending Super Bowl champs.

MTK 08-25-2008 11:58 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I said for a few plays/series. The ideal situation would be they get in and get a nice drive going, get some points, and pull them out.

If it's a situation like last week where they can't even keep JC off the ground, get them right outta there.

MPNRedskins 08-25-2008 12:04 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
They should play the entire first quarter, unless Campbell gets put on his ass too much. Then, they need to pull them out so the first team is not screwed for the season opener. Hopefully, Coach Zorn will right the ship and get this thing back on track.

Redskin Warrior 08-25-2008 12:16 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
If they play a few series/plays do you think they could last the whole season opener game for all 4 quarters? Practice speed & game speed is totally different and if the Carolina game was our "game speed" then we need to play longer because there d-line slaughter our o-line and as a pro bowl o-lineman like Samuels is he should never but shoved into his QB like that. Maybe if it was one play I would probably be like damn Chris but it was the whole game.

skinsfan69 08-25-2008 12:28 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I simply would not risk it. Crank up the intensity in practice. We need to start game planning for NY today. Screw this last pre season game.

Dan22 08-25-2008 12:44 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I voted a few series because our starters need to prove that the Carolina game was an accident. They also need to regain some confidence, especially for our O-line.

But I think that for now, most of our players are still healthy and we shouldn't "attempt the devil" too much.

skinsnut 08-25-2008 12:47 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
Have the offense play until they score a TD....period.

Let the defense play until they get a 3 and out or a turnover...period

70Chip 08-25-2008 01:10 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;467530]On the one hand, there's the feeling that the starters need to play, play a considerable amount, on Thursday night after the beatdown they took in the only "meaningful" preseason game.

On the other hand, why risk serious injury in a game that is historically the most meaningless of games?[/quote]


Because it might be their last chance at winning for a while?

firstdown 08-25-2008 01:12 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
[quote=skinsfan69;467592]I simply would not risk it. Crank up the intensity in practice. We need to start game planning for NY today. Screw this last pre season game.[/quote]
The two players we lost for the season was in practice so what the difference?

KLHJ2 08-25-2008 01:17 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I voted no, but mot because I'm scared of injuries. I would make the starters be chomping at the bit to get out on the field and redeem themselves. I want that bad taste in their mouth until we play NY.

MTK 08-25-2008 03:03 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
The players want to play on Thurs.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/08/players_say_they_want_to_play.html#more]Players Say They Want to Play Thursday - Redskins Insider[/url]

CRedskinsRule 08-25-2008 03:09 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I voted for a series, or two. You can't remove Saturday's memories by keeping them in longer. They will have to do that for themselves, and in the games that count. I would get our borderline players out on the field against the better Jags players hopefully it will be the last they see of the field until the offseason. We want to make sure that we keep the right 53 guys, we know who will be starting.

Warpath 08-25-2008 05:29 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I voted on a quarter but the 3rd preseason game (4th for us) is usually the 'dress rehearsal' and I bet they don't play at all against the Jags and eventhough they looked bad in Carolina they could look worse in NY if they lose anyone else.

mcarey032 08-26-2008 09:33 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I think that a quarter should be enough, obviously it would depend on what they do. I know that the players think that they don't need to play much, but seriously, the way that they played on Saturday was totally apathetic and they really didn't battle for their coaches on gameday. They were supposed to look great and show what they knew after 39 days of two a days. They really showed that they didn't know a whole lot and I think that they were resting on their laurels of the preseason to that point. IMO, they need to show at least one strong quarter this Thursday to show me what they know.

doughtydoubter 08-26-2008 10:20 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
I say no time at all...the skins seem to be cursed by the injury bug every year. If Cooley or campbell or one of our starters goes down, we will be all kicking ourselves and being like...THAT WAS THE STUPIDEST DECISION EVER.
I do agree the offense is lacking. But, i think so many players (esp on the offensive line)
were playing scared. Playing not to get hurt. When you have 7 out of 11 guys on the field playing cautious, nothing good can happen from that.

skinsnut 08-26-2008 10:23 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
What bothers me is that Zorn is playing the offense, while Blache is letting the defense fume....is this 2 separate teams or 1?

What the heck?

[url=http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/26/sports/FBN-Woeful-Redskins.php]Punishments vary for Redskins' putrid performance - International Herald Tribune[/url]

doughtydoubter 08-26-2008 10:41 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
i like blache's take on it...let them sit on it..get hungry to take out Eli

MTK 08-26-2008 11:08 AM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
[quote=skinsnut;467846]What bothers me is that Zorn is playing the offense, while Blache is letting the defense fume....is this 2 separate teams or 1?

What the heck?

[URL="http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/26/sports/FBN-Woeful-Redskins.php"]Punishments vary for Redskins' putrid performance - International Herald Tribune[/URL][/quote]

I like it.

The offense needs to find a groove and take something... anything positive out of Thursday's game.

The defense should be better suited if they sit and stew on that lousy performance.

doughtydoubter 08-26-2008 01:08 PM

Re: Should The Starters Play Against Jacksonville?
 
i agree with this article whole heartedly

[url=http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-2-143/Zorn-s-about-to-make-a-big-mistake.html]ESPN - Zorn's about to make a big mistake - NFC East[/url]


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