Why did we keep Tryon?
 

Does anyone have any answers? I would love to know the reasoning behind this. Please help me I am extremely puzzled. Because I think his roster spot could have been used to keep someone more deserving. He played horrible all preseason. So my question is again. What is the reasoning behind keeping Tryon? Please chime in....

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Wish i knew the reasoning behind that decision too..

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Ask Vinny I'm sure he can tell you why....it might have something to do with they wasted a draft pick on this turd. Or, they think they can make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

Who knows a NFL roster is in constant influx just because hes here today doesn't mean or guarantee anything about tomorrow. I'm sure most did not expect him to make the roster and if someone of interest comes available he would probably be the first out the door.

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Obviously they think he's got talent.

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While I definitely agree that his roster spot could go to someone more deserving, there are certainly reasons for keeping him on board. Like many people have already said in other threads, the cornerback position takes a very long time to go from rookie to stud. I think Zorn and Vinnie and whomever knows that Tyron isn't going to be helping this team anytime soon, but just like Carlos (who was a much higher pick) it may take a few years before he really comes into his own. So really, it's more of an investment in the future than anything if you ask me. They probably see some things in him that are promising and believe they can work out his rookie mistakes in the meantime.

Is it the right thing to do? Who knows. But you asked why so..

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I say upgrade him with Deltha O'Neal and send him to the PS. What's so hard about this move?

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I think D. Green was in Dan's ear saying that this guy could be his second coming.

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i think they knew he was raw coming out of college and think he has some potential to be decent down the line

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Too late, the Pats sign O'Neal. Smart on their part. The only other guy out there would Forney G to replace Fabini and we would have a very solid OL.

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[quote=Big C;470088]i think they knew he was raw coming out of college and think he has some potential to be decent down the line[/quote]

Maybe so. But this preseason he got burned for some many TDs and catches it was ridiculous. He showed nothing. If he has showed some talent. I would be ok with it. But he showed that he may be a bust. Other undrafted free agents showed they could play. Sometimes you are wrong in your evaluation of players. This is definitely one of those times. He didn't even get a good evaulation coming out of college. If I wanted to work with someone to develop it wouldn't be him. I would have gotten someoen with size and speed..but he has neither..a little closing speed. But that's not good when you closing in after someone has already caught a touchdown or first down. DVRs are the ish. I saw this dude get burned like for 2 TD last game and for I dont know how many first downs and Doughtys int saved him from getting burned for another TD..and that's just one game..Preseason or not..He sucks

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the practice squad was made for guys like tryon. I can't believe he actually earned a spot on the roster. Granted, I'm no NFL talent evaluator, but the guy just doesn't look like a player. I hate to be skeptical, but really Vinny? All of those 6th and 7th round picks are NFL worthy? Wow, you ARE a genius.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;470080]I say upgrade him with Deltha O'Neal and send him to the PS. What's so hard about this move?[/quote]

i can live with that....

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i'm sure it was just due to the relative uncertainty of rogers and the lack of quality depth we have behind our top 3 corners.

he's a practice squad level player who was benefited by circumstance. i think he has potential though. college to pro is a huge adjustment for corners. hopefully he'll figure it out sooner than later.

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When Danny and the FO went on spending sprees during the FA period, fans complained that we weren't building through the draft enough. Now that the mindset has changed and they want to develop young talent, you all complain again. No, he's not a stud straight out of college, but if memory serves me right, he was a late round pick. Let this kid grow a little. He has the tutelage of Darrell Green, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, and Carlos Rogers. Let him learn. The worst that can happen is that he doesn't pan out and we release him.

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;470119]When Danny and the FO went on spending sprees during the FA period, fans complained that we weren't building through the draft enough. Now that the mindset has changed and they want to develop young talent, you all complain again. No, he's not a stud straight out of college, but if memory serves me right, he was a late round pick. Let this kid grow a little. He has the tutelage of Darrell Green, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, and Carlos Rogers. Let him learn. The worst that can happen is that he doesn't pan out and we release him.[/quote]
Nice post JS!
You made through all the storms ok?

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[quote=Hog1;470125]Nice post JS!
You made through all the storms ok?[/quote]


Yeah me and my family did. Thanks for asking

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;470128]Yeah me and my family did. Thanks for asking[/quote]
Good to hear! Hopefully Hannah will miss you as well. And.....maybe that will be it for this season?

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[quote=Hog1;470132]Good to hear! Hopefully Hannah will miss you as well. And.....maybe that will be it for this season?[/quote]

Thats what we're hoping

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;470119]When Danny and the FO went on spending sprees during the FA period, fans complained that we weren't building through the draft enough. Now that the mindset has changed and they want to develop young talent, you all complain again. No, he's not a stud straight out of college, but if memory serves me right, he was a late round pick. Let this kid grow a little. He has the tutelage of Darrell Green, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, and Carlos Rogers. Let him learn. The worst that can happen is that he doesn't pan out and we release him.[/quote]

I agree. I saw Tryon take on DeSean Jackson in college and he looked like a pro. Let's give him a shot...... Can I get a Justin Tryon avatar?

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Prior to the preseason Greg Blache ranted and raved about Tryon saying "they realy hit on this pick". I think they realy like what they see in practice. I watched the games and he was often times in position, but did not make the play. I think he will improve. Also, I dont think they kept him because he was a draft choice, keeping nine out of ten draft picks is outstanding. Ten for ten is phenominal. Vinny is very good at picking draft choices, lets give them the benefit of the doubt.

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I guess time will tell. All I know is wht I have seen on the field so far..I am going to leave it at that..If he was a little more humble maybe things would have turned out better for him. But other players that weren't even drafted or were udfa's showed up. Fincher and Hamilton came to play..Moore and Horton. I just think you can't always go by what someone does in college. You must see it against pro-level competition. I dont even recall Carlos being this bad. He heas got burnt. But go back to all the games he playe din the preseason and look at them if you have them recorded. It seems like he got worst as the preseason went on and against 2nd string players..From his scouting report on Rivals beforehe got drafted ..They said he had talent but made bad reads. I hope we can coach him up...I really do..if not like I said..he will be a waste of a roster spot. he needs to be on PS until he improves..Not on the 53 man roster..that's obvious.

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I still cannot believe that people are so hard on a 4th round pick who did not do well in the preseason and overlook our "1st round quality" 2nd round pick receivers who were out of shape, missed camp, and have looked like crap when one of them played. I was surprised when the team kept Tryon, but obviously the kid needs to develop. Plus we got Smoot, Springs, Rogers, and Torrence ahead of Tryon, so hopefully we won't see him play except in special teams. Meanwhile, with our WRs we got Moss (who I pray doesn't get hurt), ARE with a broken bone in his hand, and Thrash...and after that we have these two rookies who missed camp, one of them was hurt, and the one that played has shown nothing. I'm not saying that Tryon earned that spot, it could have and should have easily gone to Richardson or Westbrook, but in the end having a 4th round bust is better than having a 2nd round bust...BUT we don't know this yet b/c both our 2nd round receivers and our 4th round CB need to develop.

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[quote=Ruhskins;470148]I still cannot believe that people are so hard on a 4th round pick who did not do well in the preseason and overlook our "1st round quality" 2nd round pick receivers who were out of shape, missed camp, and have looked like crap when one of them played. I was surprised when the team kept Tryon, but obviously the kid needs to develop. Plus we got Smoot, Springs, Rogers, and Torrence ahead of Tryon, so hopefully we won't see him play except in special teams. Meanwhile, with our WRs we got Moss (who I pray doesn't get hurt), ARE with a broken bone in his hand, and Thrash...and after that we have these two rookies who missed camp, one of them was hurt, and the one that played has shown nothing. I'm not saying that Tryon earned that spot, it could have and should have easily gone to Richardson or Westbrook, but in the end having a 4th round bust is better than having a 2nd round bust...BUT we don't know this yet b/c both our 2nd round receivers and our 4th round CB need to develop.[/quote]


Saying that. I do agree with you that Richardson looked better for the most part. I am worried about our WRs. Especially since ARE has a broken hand. Makes me think they made a mistake letting McMcullen go. So we have 5 receivers and two are hurt..two are unproven rookies..(but i think they will pan out before the middle of the season - i hope). With our depth at CB. I guess we should be ok with Tryon being a PROJECT. But I am puzzled as to why we didn't keep a 6th WR since Kelly was hurt. I guess we will hope for the best until ARE and Kelly get healthy and I am sure Davis plays into this also. I am just hoping for the best..

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Maybe they kept Tryon as a place-holder. Maybe next Monday - - after all the vested veterans pass the trigger point so their contracts are not guaranteed for the entire season - - the Redskins will bring in a veteran CB that will put the squad over the top.

Who might that be?

Keep this quiet lest other teams get wind of it, but Tryon may disappear to make room for ...





Ade Jimoh :eek:

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One of the things I've been hearing from around the fan base in regards to the rational for keeping Tryon is that everytime he got burn he was able to keep up with the guys he was covering. The problem was that he wasn't getting his hands up and knocking the ball down, or better yet getting an interception on the plays where he got burned. So in turn the pro-Tryon people feel that if he can work on that last part of his game then he'll fine. I guess we'll see.

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Why so much consternation over our 5th CB? The guy (if active) will see 10 plays per game MAX.. Maybe he's better on teams than Richardson.. He's cheaper than O'Neal would have been.. For all the griping on this and other sites about us not developing young talent-that's exactly what we are doing..

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;470119]When Danny and the FO went on spending sprees during the FA period, fans complained that we weren't building through the draft enough. Now that the mindset has changed and they want to develop young talent, you all complain again. No, he's not a stud straight out of college, but if memory serves me right, he was a late round pick. Let this kid grow a little. He has the tutelage of Darrell Green, Shawn Springs, Fred Smoot, and Carlos Rogers. Let him learn. The worst that can happen is that he doesn't pan out and we release him.[/quote]

Amen, i agree 100%. NO matter what, you can't please everyone. Im pretty excited that we are going through the draft. Even if some of the guys we draft dont work out, thats part of the draft, it's impossible to hit on every pick, be serious people

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he's young and has talent .. RELAX..i couldn't agree more with the post about building through the draft ... how quickly we forget about the bitching on FA spending and never having draft picks ... let him learn and give the guy a shot -

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Im with you guys, he gets the chance to develop behind some VERY good corners and learn the tricks of the trade. He just needs to learn to compensate for his size in a positive way. have him call darell green for some pointers.
But overall i predict he will be a solid backup for us given time.

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Playing on an Island, man-to-man is different than the Cover Two, or the Cover One schemes used frequently. Playing nickel is different than playing the WRs one-on-one as well. PS was a means to see the skill set of our younger D players. Tryon was put to the test, showed he could tackle (albiet late on some plays) but could indeed stay with his man. I agree he should not have stayed with the team, nor should Doughty, but I'm not the talent evaluator guy in the FO. I would have drafted a DE with our first pick for the past 13 years! LOL!

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[quote=backrow;470286]Playing on an Island, man-to-man is different than the Cover Two, or the Cover One schemes used frequently. Playing nickel is different than playing the WRs one-on-one as well. PS was a means to see the skill set of our younger D players. Tryon was put to the test, showed he could tackle (albiet late on some plays) but could indeed stay with his man. I agree he should not have stayed with the team, nor should Doughty, but I'm not the talent evaluator guy in the FO. I would have drafted a DE with our first pick for the past 13 years! LOL![/quote]

You're the anti-Matt Millen (who has drafted a WR for what it seems thet past 13 years). LOL.

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I am not a Tryon hater, I think he will be serviceable with time to develop, but I would much rather have McMullen or Mason.

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Doughty shouldnt make the team? Yeah right.. Doughty is gonna be a stud, mark my words.

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[quote=BugelDisciple;470291]I am not a Tryon hater, I think he will be serviceable with time to develop, but I would much rather have McMullen or Mason.[/quote]

It is hard to argue with that

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We kept him because we needed a new Ade "throw to me for a quick TD" Jimoh on this team.

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I think Tryon is on a short leash, with Richardson and Westbrook on the PS. 4th Round or not, the coaching staff must have seen something in practice that goes beyond his red-headed stepchild mentality against Jacksonville (as in beaten like a). Granted, this is a 4th or 5th string CB we're talking about, but with as injury prone as the CBs ahead of him have the potential to be, I think Tryon is a big stretch.

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[quote=Larry Michael is Satan;470094]the practice squad was made for guys like tryon. I can't believe he actually earned a spot on the roster. Granted, I'm no NFL talent evaluator, but the guy just doesn't look like a player. I hate to be skeptical, but really Vinny? All of those 6th and 7th round picks are NFL worthy? Wow, you ARE a genius.[/quote]

Those 6th and 7th rounders beat out pretty weak competition. Would you rather have a young guy like Chris Horton or an older guy like Vernon Fox? The former is unproven, but he's young and has some talent. The latter might know the system, but he's older and has proven that he is not going to be a decent starter. So, the question isn't whether those 6th or 7th rounders are great; it's whether they are better than the alternatives.

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I'm at a loss for their keeping Tryon. The guy consistently looked out of his league going against backups. I cringe to think that we might need to play the guy if we have DB injuries.

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Don't worry too much about Tryon. He's just holding a roster spot for THE ADE. After the 1st game, the skins can sign THE ADE and put Tryon on the Practice Squad. If they signed THE ADE now, they would have to guarantee his salary.

BRING BACK THE ADE!

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[quote=BugelDisciple;470291]I am not a Tryon hater, I think he will be serviceable with time to develop, but I would much rather have McMullen or Mason.[/quote]

Tryon simply isn't ready to step on an NFL field. McMullen was a guy we simply needed to keep. We only have 2 healthy WR's. Moss and Thrash. ARE has a freakin cast on his hand. Thomas isn't ready to step on the field and Kelly is hurt. Why we cut the guy made no sense what so ever.