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SmootSmack 09-22-2008 06:00 PM

Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Week 3)
 
Not much to say this week, but here goes

[B]Devin Thomas:[/B] You're only three games into your NFL career. You haven't earned the right to get away with push-offs. I liked what I saw overall from you though. Once you play smarter, I expect big numbers from you.

[B]Fred Smoot:[/B] Where's the fire you played with at the end of last year? I don't think you're as talented as either Springs or Rogers but you always played as tough as them. I'm not seeing it this year.

[B]SmootSmack:[/B] You decide not to start Larry Fitzgerald in your $$ fantasy league, sticking to your tradition of never starting a player who is playing the Redskins and it costs you the win, a 3-0 start and sole posession of first place. Was it really worth it?

GoSkins! 09-22-2008 06:22 PM

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[B]HEYER[/B] - Your first pancake block of the season comes with a 15 yard penalty and cost us a TD. Now, do it while you are really in the play.

Redskins8588 09-22-2008 06:52 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;479905]Not much to say this week, but here goes

[B]Devin Thomas:[/B] You're only three games into your NFL career. You haven't earned the right to get away with push-offs. I liked what I saw overall from you though. Once you play smarter, I expect big numbers from you.

[B]Fred Smoot:[/B] Where's the fire you played with at the end of last year? I don't think you're as talented as either Springs or Rogers but you always played as tough as them. I'm not seeing it this year.

[B]SmootSmack:[/B] You decide not to start Larry Fitzgerald in your [B][U]$$ fantasy league[/U][/B], sticking to your tradition of never starting a player who is playing the Redskins and it costs you the win, a 3-0 start and sole posession of first place. Was it really worth it?[/quote]
Which league? The one that Matty runs?

SmootSmack 09-22-2008 07:46 PM

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No, another league.

Slingin Sammy 33 09-22-2008 07:49 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;479905]
[B]SmootSmack:[/B] You decide not to start Larry Fitzgerald in your $$ fantasy league, sticking to your tradition of never starting a player who is playing the Redskins and it costs you the win, a 3-0 start and sole posession of first place. Was it really worth it?[/quote]
At least you weren't the incredible dumbass who left Ronnie Brown and 30+ points on the bench....:smashfrea

Swarley 09-22-2008 07:56 PM

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or the dumbass who gave into peer-pressure and started Big Ben over J.T. O'Sullivan :(

DirtyLandry 09-22-2008 09:45 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;479905]Not much to say this week, but here goes

[B]Devin Thomas:[/B] You're only three games into your NFL career. You haven't earned the right to get away with push-offs. I liked what I saw overall from you though. Once you play smarter, I expect big numbers from you.[/quote]

Did you see his celebration? He had to of felt a little embarassed after that.

mooby 09-22-2008 11:03 PM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;479936]At least you weren't the incredible dumbass who left Ronnie Brown and 30+ points on the bench....:smashfrea[/quote]

Yeah but who expected Ronnie Brown to play like he did? Like a media person said he was benched in 75% of fantasy leagues this week.

SS I'd like to add something to the list.

Consistency. I want to see our offense be consistent. After the first drive of the game there was a period where we didn't do much offensively, up until the third quarter. If we expect to compete against Dallas we need to have a great game offensively and be consistent.

The Goat 09-22-2008 11:27 PM

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[B]Offensive Line:[/B] This group has a lot of work to do if we're going to be competitive against Dallas, Philly etc. Protection has been good overall, but run-blocking is terrible - CP has every right to bitch and moan IMHO. I see way too many defenders in the backfield before and during the hand-off. Don't know how else to say it: if the o-line doesn't step up it will be the unit holding us back for the rest of the season.

[B]Smoot:[/B] Does anyone know definitively whether he is playing hurt? Like SS said Fred has always played very aggressive which made up for his comparatively average skills - I don't see the aggressiveness so far this year and he is increasingly the weak link in the secondary.

[B]M. Washington:[/B] Don't get me wrong I am a huge Marcus fan, and maybe I had too high of expectations based on reports of his perfect health and legendary enthusiasm coming into the regular season. He is not making big plays right now and we're going to need the playmaker Marcus to stop the run against Dallas.

[B]Doughty:[/B] I never expected him to be a consistent playmaker - just thought he would always play smart and more than anything play tough as nails, punish any RB who got beyond the front 7 and put the smack on a receiver across the middle. Instead... no punishment and a blown coverage yesterday that got him benched. Horton might deserve the start @ SS.

DirtyLandry 09-23-2008 12:10 AM

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[B]Danny Smith:[/B] Great special teams coach, but he needs to get more out of this unit- kicks, punts, coverage and returns.

[B]Casey Rabach:[/B] Your center is the quaterback of the offensive line. While he stepped it up a little against Arizona, we need more consistency from him.

[B]Fed Ex:[/B] It gets loud at times, but we need to redifine home field advantage here, especially when we play division opponents.

hooskins 09-23-2008 12:20 AM

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[quote=DirtyLandry;480065]
[B]Fed Ex:[/B] It gets loud at times, but we need to redifine home field advantage here, especially when we play division opponents.[/quote]
Second.

That Guy 09-23-2008 01:13 AM

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;479936]At least you weren't the incredible dumbass who left Ronnie Brown and 30+ points on the bench....:smashfrea[/quote]

shut up! :(

Lady Brave 09-23-2008 10:40 AM

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I might get flamed for these, but oh well.

[B]Zorn:[/B] The Brooks tongue lashing during the last few minutes of the game was well... lame. You've had several meltdowns on the sideline already and my fear is that you allow your emotions to get the best of you. I appreciate the passion, but you are responsible for setting the tone. Learn to pick your moments.

Besides, no one thought Swishy would make it anyway. He loves to shank it left.

[B]The fans and the media:[/B] Every ounce of praise heaped on Zorn shouldn't automatically be followed with a criticism of Gibbs. It's getting old already.

BleedBurgundy 09-23-2008 10:50 AM

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Smoot's automatic 8-10 yard cushion. Seriously. WTF?

Kope 09-23-2008 11:03 AM

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[quote]Fed Ex: It gets loud at times, but we need to redifine home field advantage here, especially when we play division opponents.[/quote]

It is getting embarassing :( The commentators called us out for being quiet in the 1st half

MTK 09-23-2008 11:05 AM

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[quote=Lady Brave;480177]I might get flamed for these, but oh well.

[B]Zorn:[/B] The Brooks tongue lashing during the last few minutes of the game was well... lame. You've had several meltdowns on the sideline already and my fear is that you allow your emotions to get the best of you. I appreciate the passion, but you are responsible for setting the tone. Learn to pick your moments.

Besides, no one thought Swishy would make it anyway. He loves to shank it left.

[B]The fans and the media:[/B] Every ounce of praise heaped on Zorn shouldn't automatically be followed with a criticism of Gibbs. It's getting old already.[/quote]

I didn't take Zorn's lashing of Brooks as an indication that he was melting down at all, in fact I think by doing so he [I]was[/I] setting the tone for the team. F up and lose focus and you're going to get an earful. I guess it's a departure from what we saw under Gibbs, but personally I like to see a coach ripping into someone now and then.

What other meltdowns has he had already?

MTK 09-23-2008 11:13 AM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;480181]Smoot's automatic 8-10 yard cushion. Seriously. WTF?[/quote]

Or how about that horrible roughing the passer he had? I like Smoot in general but sometimes he gives you one of those "WTF" moments.

Swarley 09-23-2008 11:23 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;480186]I didn't take Zorn's lashing of Brooks as an

What other meltdowns has he had already?[/quote]

I hadn't noticed any others either and I think Brooks deserved it this time around. As a holder you are responsible to see if the official is still over the ball which would prevent you from kicking the ball, he didnt do that. In essence as Zorn said in his press conference, we iced our own kicker.

Lady Brave 09-23-2008 11:24 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;480186]I didn't take Zorn's lashing of Brooks as an indication that he was melting down at all, in fact I think by doing so he [I]was[/I] setting the tone for the team. F up and lose focus and you're going to get an earful. I guess it's a departure from what we saw under Gibbs, but personally I like to see a coach ripping into someone now and then.

What other meltdowns has he had already?[/quote]
He completely lost it during the Panthers game, which is something you guys didn't see. One of the guys from Redskinsheads was on the field and he said it was pretty ugly. Also, I can't remember which game, maybe the Giants, but Zorn was going off and one of the commentators said the same thing about him needing to basically get a grip and setting the tone. Zorn even said himself in his last presser that he was drilling Jason to the point that Campbell put his hand up like, "OK... enough. I got it coach."

As far as Brooks goes, it was the amount of time he spent berating him. We're in the last few minutes of the game. I think he should have been more focused on other things at that point. I don't want a completely stoic coach, but I don't want one who flies off the handle at any given moment either.

MTK 09-23-2008 11:31 AM

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[quote=Lady Brave;480195]He completely lost it during the Panthers game, which is something you guys didn't see. One of the guys from Redskinsheads was on the field and he said it was pretty ugly. Also, I can't remember which game, maybe the Giants, but Zorn was going off and one of the commentators said the same thing about him needing to basically get a grip and setting the tone. Zorn even said himself in his last presser that he was drilling Jason to the point that Campbell put his hand up like, "OK... enough. I got it coach."

As far as Brooks goes, it was the amount of time he spent berating him. We're in the last few minutes of the game. I think he should have been more focused on other things at that point. I don't want a completely stoic coach, but I don't want one who flies off the handle at any given moment either.[/quote]

Yeah I do agree that he probably spent too much time railing on Brooks. I guess right now I'd just chalk it up to him being a rookie head coach and still finding his way a bit. I do see your point, and I think Zorn is probably aware of it too. He does seem to model himself after Holmgren, and he's one of the hotter heads in the league.

Ruhskins 09-23-2008 11:49 AM

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[quote=GreekSkin;479938]or the dumbass who gave into peer-pressure and started Big Ben over J.T. O'Sullivan :([/quote]

or the dumbass that started the Giants D/ST (vs. Bengals = 6 pts) instead of the Titans D/ST (vs. Houston = 20 pts).

Ruhskins 09-23-2008 11:51 AM

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[quote=DirtyLandry;479964]Did you see his celebration? He had to of felt a little embarassed after that.[/quote]

I would say typical for an NFL rookie that just scored his FIRST NFL TD.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 09-23-2008 06:57 PM

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[B]Run Blocking[/B]. I'm so tired of seeing Portis hit before he gets to the LOS. Open some running lanes for this man and our offense, with its new and improved passing game, will be explosive.

GMScud 09-23-2008 07:06 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;480338][B]Run Blocking[/B]. I'm so tired of seeing Portis hit before he gets to the LOS. Open some running lanes for this man and our offense, with its new and improved passing game, will be explosive.[/quote]

I feel like he can't ever get a head of steam straight up the gut. When we flip it to him on a toss/sweep kind of play he can almost always get around the corner for at least 7 or 8 yards.

GMScud 09-23-2008 07:08 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;480189]Or how about that horrible roughing the passer he had? I like Smoot in general but sometimes he gives you one of those "WTF" moments.[/quote]

Anquan Boldin saw that cushion Fred was giving him and was like, "thanks for the TD." And then he caught a TD.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 09-23-2008 07:09 PM

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[quote=GMScud;480341]I feel like he can't ever get a head of steam straight up the gut. We we flip it to him on a toss/sweep kind of play he can almost always get around the corner for at least 7 or 8 yards.[/quote]

I feel the same way. What I don't understand is how Betts had gaping holes to run through in the middle of the line in 2006. Every time I see Portis run up the gut, it looks like 9 defenders are stacked right behind the DTs.

GMScud 09-23-2008 07:14 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;479905]Not much to say this week, but here goes


[B]SmootSmack:[/B] You decide not to start Larry Fitzgerald in your $$ fantasy league, sticking to your tradition of never starting a player who is playing the Redskins and it costs you the win, a 3-0 start and sole posession of first place. Was it really worth it?[/quote]

Oh that's a bummer. You gotta compartmentalize, SS! I have Tony Romo in one league and Marion Barber in another. You better believe they'll both be in my starting lineups this weekend. When it comes to fantasy I want to win games and win money. It sucks to see other players score against the Skins, but it is what it is.

I only break this rule for ONE player. Terrell F-ing Owens. This is my 8th season playing fantasy football. Never drafted him, never will. I just can't cheer for that man. He's been on my shit list ever since he ran Mooch outta SF.

djnemo65 09-23-2008 07:22 PM

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Regarding run-blocking, we obviously don't have a dominant run-blocking line. That being said, as we established the pass during the course of the game it seemed like the lanes started to get bigger. Moreover, when we needed to run for first downs at the end of the game to seal it we were able to. So 4.4 ypc for Portis, while perhaps not equal to the "CP of old," is enough to carry us this season. When CP complained in that article, his point was not that our line sucks, but rather that it's difficult for anyone in the NFL to run when the defense is selling out against the run. As JC continues to succeed, and Zorn continues to call passes in situations in which we would have run in the past, CP will continue to have less to complain about I think.

GoSkins! 09-23-2008 08:35 PM

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[quote=djnemo65;480347]Regarding run-blocking, we obviously don't have a dominant run-blocking line. That being said, as we established the pass during the course of the game it seemed like the lanes started to get bigger. Moreover, when we needed to run for first downs at the end of the game to seal it we were able to. So 4.4 ypc for Portis, while perhaps not equal to the "CP of old," is enough to carry us this season. When CP complained in that article, his point was not that our line sucks, but rather that it's difficult for anyone in the NFL to run when the defense is selling out against the run. As JC continues to succeed, and Zorn continues to call pass's in situations in which we would have run in the past, CP will continue to have less to complain about I think.[/quote]

I think you are right. With that said, I wonder how ticked CP would be if the linemen did a radio show and said "just once we'd like to see how many more YPC LaDainian Tomlinson could get behind our blocking".

djnemo65 09-23-2008 09:19 PM

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[quote=GoSkins!;480359]I think you are right. With that said, I wonder how ticked CP would be if the linemen did a radio show and said "just once we'd like to see how many more YPC LaDainian Tomlinson could get behind our blocking".[/quote]

Yeah, I thought it was really uncool what he said. Didn't get where he was coming from and don't understand what he means when he says he was taken out of context. But winning heals all wounds right?

SmootSmack 09-23-2008 09:29 PM

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[quote=GMScud;480345]Oh that's a bummer. You gotta compartmentalize, SS! I have Tony Romo in one league and Marion Barber in another. You better believe they'll both be in my starting lineups this weekend. When it comes to fantasy I want to win games and win money. It sucks to see other players score against the Skins, but it is what it is.

I only break this rule for ONE player. Terrell F-ing Owens. This is my 8th season playing fantasy football. Never drafted him, never will. I just can't cheer for that man. He's been on my shit list ever since he ran Mooch outta SF.[/quote]

Well, to add insult to injury in the Warpath free league I benched Boldin for Devin Thomas and lost by about two points. Thank you Stephon Heyer!

GMScud 09-23-2008 10:35 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;480374]Well, to add insult to injury in the Warpath free league I benched Boldin for Devin Thomas and lost by about two points. Thank you Stephon Heyer![/quote]

I still think that call was total BS.

EternalEnigma21 09-24-2008 07:22 AM

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1). Officiating.

Bad job all around. The PI call during the first half on Rogers allowed them to convert a 3rd and 7 that led to their first score. That was BS. They let fitzgerald call that one. There was a slight jersey hold but it did not redirect the receiver or impede his ability to catch the ball whatsoever. That's 4 points.

Then the BS call on heyer. New rules say you're not supposed to block someone while they're jackin their jaws at your teammate? That's 7 pts.

2). Brooks

Pull your head from your ass and play football. The quicker the better.

3). FatFatFatStupidFatFuckFatTonyfatSiragusaStupidUglyFat.

What a dumbass. I'd rather listen to brian baldinger bone my mom than his moronic comments during our game. Someone please call bryant gumbel!

dmek25 09-24-2008 09:00 AM

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[quote=EternalEnigma21;480437]1). Officiating.

Bad job all around. The PI call during the first half on Rogers allowed them to convert a 3rd and 7 that led to their first score. That was BS. They let fitzgerald call that one. There was a slight jersey hold but it did not redirect the receiver or impede his ability to catch the ball whatsoever. That's 4 points.

Then the BS call on heyer. New rules say you're not supposed to block someone while they're jackin their jaws at your teammate? That's 7 pts.

2). Brooks

Pull your head from your ass and play football. The quicker the better.

3). FatFatFatStupidFatFuckFatTonyfatSiragusaStupidUglyFat.

What a dumbass.[B] I'd rather listen to brian baldinger bone my mom[/B] than his moronic comments during our game. Someone please call bryant gumbel![/quote]
you sure about that? she can make some wild ass sounds(j/k)

Miller101 09-24-2008 09:26 AM

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I disagree about this run blocking thing. Our line is doing a very good job. By that I mean that teams are gameplanning to stop portis. Think about it, how many times did you see ALL of the Cardinals linebackers JUMP TO THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE every time time Campbell did the play action? Heck, everyone was fooled on that touchdown to Yoder; including the guy that was 'covering' him.

We have a darn good line built by Bosshog himself. This line can get everyone to stack the box and make Campbell's job easier to pick up first downs. Like that 4th and 2 to Moss two weeks ago; so we could kill the clock. Or that other completion we had last week so we could continue to kill the clock. Or that bomb to single covered Moss against the Saints. Or that bomb to wide open Devin against the cards. Those plays were possible because of Gibbs and Buges building a darn good line and getting a darn good back to run behind it.

Just think about it. If you give Portis a lane he's going to break one on you. If you give a struggling quarterback more space..............he might get it, he might not. Its a new offense and it doesn't take a genius to know that he is still struggling with it. If you're the defense guy Who are you going to focus on stopping?

I just hope Dallas will bite on the play action the way the Cardinals did. And stack the box the way the Cardinals and everyone else has done. Doing so will make Campbell's job more easier. Especially in short yardage or at the goal lines. Dallas likes to stack the box for those. I would like to see a play action pass get called then! It should be pretty exciting!


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