Who has the better running duo in NFC east?
 

No surprise I gotta go with Dallas. Barber runs harder than anyone I have seen "no homer". Felix Jones has great vision and a strong burst once he sees the hole.

I would say in order the Giants(three headed monster), Skins(very close second Betts is good at times and then he is not), and Eagles (Buckhalter, I'll pass).

What do the Skins need to do to stop Felix Sunday?

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...more dallas propaganda...

For the record, Felix Jones is a rookie. While he has looked promising, let's wait a year or two before we make the call. Marion Barber is a punishing runner, but his carreer is going to be short lived. Even the great Marshall Faulk said that as a NFL running back, you have to know when to run out of bounds and avoid the hit from time to time. Barber fights for every inch, which is admirable, but at the same time incredibly naive.

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I will also stick with my home team..............

1)Jacobs......

then ........well anyone,Ward or Bradshaw.

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It's either Dallas or New York right now. (what has Betts done?) It comes down to who has the better backup.

Derrick Ward has rushed for 178 yards in 3 games, and he's averaging close to 7 yards per carry so far.

In 3 games, Felix Jones has 148 yards but he's averaging 8.2 yards per carry. He also has 2 TD's not including the kickoff return.

I'd say Dallas has the better running duo in the division.

....that being said, I believe neither Jones nor BarberIII will score this week.

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Why not just name the thread what you really think "Dallas Has A Better Running Game". You make it like a question when all you really wanted to do is to say Dallas has a better running game. Its not like your going to debate the subject and change your mind.

Dallas Blows!!!!!!!

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How many 1000 yard rushing seasons do felix jones, derrick ward, ahmad bradshaw and correll buckhalter have? I'm sure it will change in the future but for the time being the answer is zero. I can't say the same for ladell betts.

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i'll take the 1-2 punch of portis & betts following big mike sellers out of the backfield.
portis may not have the total numbers one would expect for a number 1 rusher,but there is not a better all around total back in the league.he's the best rb at catching and stopping blitzes i have ever seen.

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I think it's really close but it's hard to argue against Dallas, given how dangerous Felix Jones looks as a backup. New York has a solid core although injuries are always a concern. Portis is on his way to having a statement season and Betts has made some critical plays already this year. Finally, Philadelphia has maybe the best player in the division in Westbrook and Buckhalter showed last week that he can be a viable fill-in as well.

Exciting stuff. Not a weak core in the entire division. Another reason why this season is going to be so much fun in the East.

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I'm more impressed with the Dallas line than it's backs. Barber gets a lot of hype but the last time we played them he got 1 yard. Jones is a rookie, who knows for sure? How much is the line and how much is the back? Jacobs is more of a "Barbarian" than Barber. Hard as hell to bring down. Westbrook is a very elusive back who always gives us problems. I like the 1-2 punch we have with Portis and Betts. It does'nt hurt to have the "Beast", Mike Sellers back there either. Portis can break one at any time and is the best blocking back in the league. Betts would be starting on a lot of other teams and is very under-rated. On top of that you've got Sellers back there mowing down people and occasionally catching passes. Nobody wants to hit or be hit by Sellers. Might sound like a homer but I like our guys. As our new offense settles in I think it will showcase our backs talents even more.

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No doubt Dallas has the best run oline right now. Everybody's on the Felix Jones bandwagon, and he looks good, but a couple of his long runs the oline opened up a hole big enough that i could have made a pretty good run.

When's the last time you saw a hole like that for Portis or Betts? It's been awhile. So, i don't think it's an apples to apples comparison.

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[quote=johnerotten;481496]i'll take the 1-2 punch of portis & betts following big mike sellers out of the backfield.
portis may not have the total numbers one would expect for a number 1 rusher,but there is not a better all around total back in the league.he's the best rb at catching and stopping blitzes i have ever seen.[/quote]

Don't get me wrong...I'm a huge Redskins fan and I love there running attack when they are clicking! However, for you to say that Clinton Portis is the best RB at catching the football that you've ever scene is a little crazy! Either you haven't scene a lot of football or you are just a monsterous Portis fan. Have you seen Reggie Bush? Do you remember Marshall Faulk? E. James in his prime? Brian Westbrook for the past 5-6 years?

As far as blocking he is top notch for sure! But lets be realistic when we give the whole picture.

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My order:

1 - Dallas - Marion Barber is an absolute STUD! I'd love to have him on our team. F. Jones looks like the real deal. That combo in years to come is going to be scary if Barber doesn't get hurt.
2t - G-Men - Jacobs, Ward, Bradshaw is a great combo
2t - Redskins - Portis / Betts can both be game breakers
4 - Eagles - As good as Westbrook is...if goes down, they have NO ONE!

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Good question and if you say through 3 games then you go dallas or ny, But over the long haul gotta go Skins. Portis is the only feature back, We'll see this year if barber can get through a whole season as the number 1 guy.

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[quote=mmil12;481502]Don't get me wrong...I'm a huge Redskins fan and I love there running attack when they are clicking! However, for you to say that Clinton Portis is the best RB at catching the football that you've ever scene is a little crazy! Either you haven't scene a lot of football or you are just a monsterous Portis fan. Have you seen Reggie Bush? Do you remember Marshall Faulk? E. James in his prime? Brian Westbrook for the past 5-6 years?

As far as blocking he is top notch for sure! But lets be realistic when we give the whole picture.[/quote]

Yeah, LT and Westbrook have both led their conferences in receptions if I am not mistaken. Portis as a receiving threat is a relatively new thing. Last year's 47 catches was his career high, and so far this year out of Saunders' offense he is only on pace for like 20 catches.

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[quote=djnemo65;481505]Yeah, LT and Westbrook have both led their conferences in receptions if I am not mistaken. Portis as a receiving threat is a relatively new thing. Last year's 47 catches was his career high, and so far this year out of Saunders' offense he is only on pace for like 20 catches.[/quote]

Thanks for the support...completely forgot about LT! How could I've done that! If you want to go way back you can even throw Thurman Thomas on this list as well as several otheres. IE: Frank Gore, The Priest, L.Johnson, etc.

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definately not frank gore or l johnson, johnson only had one good year and frank gore is not a complete back

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[quote=firstdown;481493]Why not just name the thread what you really think "Dallas Has A Better Running Game". You make it like a question when all you really wanted to do is to say Dallas has a better running game. Its not like your going to debate the subject and change your mind.

Dallas Blows!!!!!!![/quote]

Maybe a new question in the spirit of the season.........
Who has the scariest Halloween face, Jerry or the Dan?
Oh...., do we have to disqualify JJ, since it may not really be his??

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I think we can stop the run game because we've stopped it past, but I'm kinda scared with witten and TO. I think Horton (or Doughty) will do a good job with both.

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NFC EAST RBs RUSHING STATS (CARRIES/YDS/AVG/TD)
(after three weeks)

Washington
C. Portis 65/248/3.8/3
L. Betts 11/48/4.4/0

Dallas
M. Barber 62/285/4.6/4
F. Jones 18/148/8.2/2

NY
B. Jacobs 50/244/4.9/1
D. Ward 26/177/6.8/0

Philly
B. Westbrook 42/161/3.8/3
C. Buckha... 12/48/4.0/0

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I think if you look at the current performance of RBs, I would put Dallas RB tandem 1st, because of the amount of yds/TDs and they've played two good defenses (Philly and GB). I want to go with the Skins second, but Philly has played Pittsburgh and Dallas, which have good defenses, and they still put up 3 TDs, although not as many yds. The Skins are a close 3rd, due to the amount of yds and putting up 3 TDs, as with Philly, Washington's running game is just one player (Portis). Our team has played two average defenses (N.O./Cards) and a good defense (NYG). Finally, I would put NYG's RB tandem fourth b/c althougth they've gained a lot of yds, they have 1 TD to show for, and this is playing against teams like St. Louis and Cincy, which have weak defenses. Plus, we kept Jacobs scoreless, despite gaining over 100 yds against us.

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I like the big back/scat back duo that the Gmen have. However, the offensive lines of these teams play a huge role in determining the best duo. Right now--I think Dallas' O line is the best run blocking line and therefore Barber and Jones have the best numbers. A great running back cannot compensate for a poor Oline. A great Oline only needs an above average back to produce good stats...

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Everyone is forgetting Cartwright, which gives a 3 headed monster and if we would have kept Mason make that's a 4 headed monster. If Cartwright was to start due to injury I could see him gaining 100yards. He's done it before.

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I want to go with Portis/Betts, but we're still working on getting Portis going (that 3.8 ypc is not cool). So the Cowboys have the best running back tandem in the division, as well as the fans most likely to break their arms from patting themselves on the back.

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[quote=mmil12;481503]My order:

1 - Dallas - Marion Barber is an absolute STUD! I'd love to have him on our team. F. Jones looks like the real deal. That combo in years to come is going to be scary if Barber doesn't get hurt.
2t - G-Men - Jacobs, Ward, Bradshaw is a great combo
2t - Redskins - Portis / Betts can both be game breakers
4 - Eagles - As good as Westbrook is...if goes down, they have NO ONE![/quote]


I think the Skins could be better,it's not your backs but your O-line,there is some age to it.

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[quote=Giantone;481563]I think the Skins could be better,it's not your backs but your O-line,there is some age to it.[/quote]

There's nothing wrong with our OL. Maybe if we didn't miss 2 of our starters last year things would have been different and even so we spanked the G-men at their house. Remember?

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Gotta go with the Giants in the East. Although Barber and Jones in Dallas show great potential, Felix Jones has only 3 games in his career and it is way too early to judge IMO

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;481565]There's nothing wrong with our OL. Maybe if we didn't miss 2 of our starters last year things would have been different and even so we spanked the G-men at their house. Remember?[/quote]


LOL.........................pretty much everyone did.:spank:

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[quote=sandtrapjack;481567]Gotta go with the Giants in the East. Although Barber and Jones in Dallas show great potential, Felix Jones has only 3 games in his career and it is way too early to judge IMO[/quote]

Even with Barber/Jones having scored 6 TDs, while all three G-Men RBs have scored only 2 TDs this season so far?

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[quote=Ruhskins;481583]Even with Barber/Jones having scored 6 TDs, while all three G-Men RBs have scored only 2 TDs this season so far?[/quote]


Eli ran for one,does that count?:)

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[quote=Giantone;481585]Eli ran for one,does that count?:)[/quote]

Um no. He's suppose to pass the ball. LOL.

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[quote=53Fan;481499]I'm more impressed with the Dallas line than it's backs. Barber gets a lot of hype but the last time we played them he got 1 yard. Jones is a rookie, who knows for sure? How much is the line and how much is the back? Jacobs is more of a "Barbarian" than Barber. Hard as hell to bring down. Westbrook is a very elusive back who always gives us problems. I like the 1-2 punch we have with Portis and Betts. It does'nt hurt to have the "Beast", Mike Sellers back there either. Portis can break one at any time and is the best blocking back in the league. Betts would be starting on a lot of other teams and is very under-rated. On top of that you've got Sellers back there mowing down people and occasionally catching passes. Nobody wants to hit or be hit by Sellers. Might sound like a homer but I like our guys. As our new offense settles in I think it will showcase our backs talents even more.[/quote]

Dallas oline gave up its first sack of the season last game. The line has been doing a fantastic job pass blocking and a good job run blocking but the tight ends and wide receivers have played a huge part too.

I forgot about Mike sellers but probably because he has the same amount of rushing attempts as Devin Thomas and Moss which is one attempt.

If we are looking at three back system T Choice could be a starter for another team. Both RB rookies have both been rather impressive thus far, and I can only hope they keep it up and don't end like Julius Jones.

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[quote=redsk1;481501]No doubt Dallas has the best run oline right now. Everybody's on the Felix Jones bandwagon, and he looks good, but a couple of his long runs the oline opened up a hole big enough that i could have made a pretty good run.

When's the last time you saw a hole like that for Portis or Betts? It's been awhile. So, i don't think it's an apples to apples comparison.[/quote]The O-line is a big part of it, but it's on the RBs to have great vision and instincts as well. If it was all about the line, then why didn't Julius Jones thrive behind it? It was the same line that Barber and Felix is running behind now. They are good backs. It is what it is.

As far as the better running duo, I want to say Dallas, but I will have to say the Giants. Their running game is too strong overall.

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[quote=Valleyranchgirl;481624]Dallas oline gave up its first sack of the season last game. The line has been doing a fantastic job pass blocking and a good job run blocking but the tight ends and wide receivers have played a huge part too.

I forgot about Mike sellers but probably because he has the same amount of rushing attempts as Devin Thomas and Moss which is one attempt.

If we are looking at three back system T Choice could be a starter for another team. Both RB rookies have both been rather impressive thus far, and I can only hope they keep it up and don't end like Julius Jones.[/quote]

I think you're right, T Choice could be a starter for another team. Like the Dallas Desperadoes, Nashville Kats, or Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. As for NFL teams, get real.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;481567]Gotta go with the Giants in the East. Although Barber and Jones in Dallas show great potential, Felix Jones has only 3 games in his career and it is way too early to judge IMO[/quote]
Thank you for bringing up the fact that Jones has only three games under his belt. The way the NFL goes he could be mopping floors in a coupl of years.

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[quote=firstdown;481650]Thank you for bringing up the fact that Jones has only three games under his belt. The way the NFL goes he could be mopping floors in a coupl of years.[/quote]


Fair enough hopefully Felix does not turn out like Julius. Considering that factor I would give it to the Giants.

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[quote=Valleyranchgirl;481459]No surprise I gotta go with Dallas. Barber runs harder than anyone I have seen "no homer". Felix Jones has great vision and a strong burst once he sees the hole.

I would say in order the Giants(three headed monster), Skins(very close second Betts is good at times and then he is not), and Eagles (Buckhalter, I'll pass).

What do the Skins need to do to stop Felix Sunday?[/quote]
Barber is a good back, but this whole "runs harder than anyone" is just garbage. He's the flavor of the month for the media. He ran pretty hard for under 50 yds on Sunday. Not sure how old you are so you may not have seen some of these guys but, there are MANY backs who ran MUCH harder than Barber: Earl Campbell, Franco Harris, Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Larry Brown, Larry Czonka, Jerome Bettis, and lest we not forget John Riggins.

Here are current backs who run just as hard if not harder: Brandon Jacobs, LT, Adrian Peterson, Matt Forte, Stephen Jackson.

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We are third in this because. Philly has no run game without Westbrook. CP does his thing. Betts makes a play here and their but he's not that outstanding. I wish he would actually step his game up 2 notches and CP step his game up 1 notch. Dont get me wrong. CP played his ass off last game. I am a CP fan. I just want him to have his break out game. The O-Line needs to improve in the run game blocking to add to that.. But it might come against the Eagles..Hmmm..Wouldn't that be nice.

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[quote=Valleyranchgirl;481459]No surprise I gotta go with Dallas. Barber runs harder than anyone I have seen "no homer". Felix Jones has great vision and a strong burst once he sees the hole.

I would say in order the Giants(three headed monster), Skins(very close second Betts is good at times and then he is not), and Eagles (Buckhalter, I'll pass).

What do the Skins need to do to stop Felix Sunday?[/quote]

What did you say?

NFC RB Duos ranked:

1. Portis and Betts (or Campbell) :)
2. Jacobs and Ward/Bradshaw
3. Babar and Felix
4. Westbrook and _________ (nobody)

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i give the giants the cred for this one, with dallas and skins too close to call in second...dallas has a stronger number two in felix jones than we do in betts, but portis overall is a better back than barber

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[quote=memphisskin;481643]I think you're right, T Choice could be a starter for another team. Like the Dallas Desperadoes, Nashville Kats, or Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. As for NFL teams, get real.[/quote]


So does T Choice still start for the Dallas Desperadoes or an NFL team.

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[quote=Valleyranchgirl;517373]So does T Choice still start for the Dallas Desperadoes or an NFL team.[/quote]


no he doesn't and for the guy who said nothing is wrong with our OL LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?