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SmootSmack 10-19-2008 11:39 PM

Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
As has been mentioned already, an ugly win is far better than an ugly loss but the smack must be laid down nonetheless.

This week I lay the smack down on...

[B]Complacency[/B] Before the fans complain about the Redskins not being ranked as high as the Titans, the team needs to start manhandling inferior opponents like the Titans did to the Chiefs today. Granted, the Chiefs are worse than the Browns but the best teams handle the "gimmes" with ease. These past two weeks should have been gimmes. We can't continue to play down to the opponents. It's already burned us once

[B]3rd Down Offense[/B] It's starting to slip again to early season form. That needs to change

GMScud 10-19-2008 11:44 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[B]Pass Rush/Turnovers: [/B] Where the hell are they???

hooskins 10-19-2008 11:53 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[B]Scoring/Finishing Drives[/B]: We are dominating stats and should be blowing teams out, now only if we can sustain that domination towards points.

FRPLG 10-20-2008 12:05 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
Ouf offense is just not clicking. Our run offense, stat wise, is awesome but we have far too many 1 and 2 yard runs for whatever reason and we seem to simply do something wrong every 3 or 4 plays. A penalty or a stuffed runa dn we get into 3rd and long. We just need to start putting consitency into our offense efforts. Cut the killer penalties and stop taking killer beats on just a few running plays heer and there.

On a scheme level we need to stretch a little more I think. Let's get Thomas downfield and give it a shot a few times over the next few games. Maybe get Davis downfield. Moss should be running like two routes. Slant and go.

JWsleep 10-20-2008 01:50 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
3rd down offense is the key, I think. The rest follows. We've been good inside the red zone, I think (though I don't know the stats). I think Zorn will fix it--this is still a new offense and and a new head coach. I thought he adjusted well to get Santana some catches today.

As for the pass rush and TOs, yeah, we need to get some of that! There were a few batted balls that didn't go to our guys, and the D was very active, so I think the TOs are out there. But the rush hasn't been great, especially from the down 4. Maybe Taylor is still gimpy?

rypper11 10-20-2008 07:29 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[quote=FRPLG;491893]Ouf offense is just not clicking. Our run offense, stat wise, is awesome but we have far too many 1 and 2 yard runs for whatever reason and we seem to simply do something wrong every 3 or 4 plays. A penalty or a stuffed runa dn we get into 3rd and long. We just need to start putting consitency into our offense efforts. Cut the killer penalties and stop taking killer beats on just a few running plays heer and there.

On a scheme level we need to stretch a little more I think. Let's get Thomas downfield and give it a shot a few times over the next few games. Maybe get Davis downfield. Moss should be running like two routes. Slant and go.[/quote]
But Moss' TD came on a drag. And they did take a shot to Davis but they missed.

MTK 10-20-2008 08:57 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
Suisham needs to nail everything under 40 yards. No excuses.

mredskins 10-20-2008 09:10 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
I think the Browns and Rams where tougher then we orginal thought two weeks ago. Both of them have blown out other NFC East teams and they both have plenty of weapons.

Now with that said Detroit is a loser and we should kick the shit out of them. I am looking forward to a relaxing blow out.

MTK 10-20-2008 09:13 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
How bad is Derek Anderson? Outside of the Giants game he has not looked like a NFL starter this season. If he could just hit a WR we probably would have been in some trouble yesterday. He's awful. Time to give Quinn a shot I think.

Southpaw 10-20-2008 09:14 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;491926]Suisham needs to nail everything under 40 yards. No excuses.[/quote]

I agree, but it was fairly obvious that the new punter took a little longer getting the snap down, which threw off Suisham's kicking motion. I don't imagine that will happen again.

MTK 10-20-2008 09:16 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
I don't know what happened exactly, but Zorn said it was just a bad kick by Suisham.

Southpaw 10-20-2008 09:19 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;491936]I don't know what happened exactly, but Zorn said it was just a bad kick by Suisham.[/quote]

It was a bad kick, but at the very least, Suisham and Plackemeier were out of sync. That shouldn't be an issue, going forward.

GTripp0012 10-20-2008 09:33 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
He's not a Redskin, but:

[B]Romeo Crennel[/B] -- In a game that could have got his team back into the chase in the AFC North, he avoids for the second time in three games making a QB change at halftime when it is obvious that it can only improve his teams' chances of winning. Then you get a first and goal at the one yard line, and you end up going backwards because you can't call a play that relies on your QB to do anything. Despite a relative meltdown from the Redskins from that point on, the game was all but over when the Goal Line stand was made.

We outplayed Cleveland a lot more than the final score suggested, but if they had changed QBs at half and Quinn plays even mediocre, they probably beat us.

For those of you counting, that's two wins this year that Crennel has cost the Browns.

Takeuon 10-20-2008 09:56 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
HOW ABOUT GIVING SOME PROPS TO OUR DEFENSE! Essentially we stopped them 7 times on the goal line. Yeah they got it on the final 4th and 1 with that play action fake. But we were all flying around all over the field! I mean those hits by Carlos and London yesterday were SWEET!

hail_2_da_skins 10-20-2008 10:18 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
I don't know what game you guys were watching, but Derek Anderson looked bad because the Redskin defense was flying all over the place. The receivers were dropping passes because they were getting drilled after the catch. The Browns had a hard time scoring in the red zone because the Redskin defense was hitting every thing moving. The score was low because the Redskin offense had poor field position, committed dumb penalties and didn't convert on third down.

BDBohnzie 10-20-2008 10:26 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
Chris Cooley looked way out of sync yesterday. Seems that he let one mistake come into his psyche and that set the tone for him the entire game. At least 2 drops, and while his fumble did not lead to a turnover, not only is that 2 weeks in a row with a fumble, but he looked very nonchalant about it.

Not sure what happened on that sequence during the Suisham miss...the TV guys said high snap didn't allow Plackenmeyer to get the ball down in time, but nonetheless, inside 40 should be automatic.

I watched the game with 2 buddies, and told them that Brady Quinn will most likely be the starter next week. If he isn't, I wouldn't be surprised if the rumor mill about Crennel's firing gets juiced up.

Speaking of which, are there 2 more boring guys to call a game other than Ian Eagle and Solomon Wilcots?!?!

MTK 10-20-2008 10:26 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[quote=hail_2_da_skins;491974]I don't know what game you guys were watching, but Derek Anderson looked bad because the Redskin defense was flying all over the place. The receivers were dropping passes because they were getting drilled after the catch. The Browns had a hard time scoring in the red zone because the Redskin defense was hitting every thing moving. The score was low because the Redskin offense had poor field position, committed dumb penalties and didn't convert on third down.[/quote]

A few times DA threw balls to the completely wrong spot though, and his accuracy is so bad. The D played well, but I really think DA was his own worst enemy.

They need to make a change before their season is totally down the toilet.

Dirtbag59 10-20-2008 01:23 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[B]Greg Blache - [/B]Dude is it to much to ask for a shut out every now and then? [YHBT]

mooby 10-20-2008 02:29 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[quote=Mattyk72;491978]A few times DA threw balls to the completely wrong spot though, and his accuracy is so bad. The D played well, but I really think DA was his own worst enemy.

They need to make a change before their season is totally down the toilet.[/quote]

I think it's funny considering how many people, including myself, thought the Browns had a great qb situation during the offseason. Anderson wasn't looking quite so bad and people were saying they had two really nice options at qb with Quinn in the mix. Now it's looking like DA should be a backup somewhere, he has really underperformed this season.

GMScud 10-20-2008 02:44 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[quote=GTripp0012;491947]

[B]We outplayed Cleveland a lot more than the final score suggested[/B], but if they had changed QBs at half and Quinn plays even mediocre, they probably beat us.

For those of you counting, that's two wins this year that Crennel has cost the Browns.[/quote]

Anyone else getting tired of saying this game after game??

Redskins_P 10-20-2008 02:57 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[B]Antwaan Randle El [/B]-- Can you please stop getting tackled at the one yard line? Its seems like every time you get close to the end zone, you get tackled two steps before the goal line. We need TD's Randle El, and so does my fantasy team because you're my 3rd receiver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mredskins 10-20-2008 03:08 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[quote=GMScud;492117]Anyone else getting tired of saying this game after game??[/quote]


We have said it for two games. Who cares about the score as long as we have the higher number.

I will take a season of 16-0 with a SB win and all the scores where 3-2, the final score means nothing it is the W that counts.

GMScud 10-20-2008 04:39 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[quote=mredskins;492131]We have said it for two games. Who cares about the score as long as we have the higher number.

I will take a season of 16-0 with a SB win and all the scores where 3-2, the final score means nothing it is the W that counts.[/quote]

New Orleans, St. Louis, Cleveland. And we've said it numerous times the past few seasons, too.

Of course I'll take the wins, but this thread is supposed to "Lay the Smack Down." Our lack of scoring when compared to all other offensive statistics is pretty glaring. We only have 4 offensive turnovers all year (3 of which came in one game), we're 3rd overall in rushing, 7th overall in total yards/game, yet a paltry 23rd in scoring. 23rd. Let it sink in. Points win games. Fortunately our defense is bailing us out. We have to score more.

Lotus 10-20-2008 07:13 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
We do need to score more. We need to turn "almost" drives into field goals and turn field goals into touchdowns.

The defense needs to see the ball in its hands more and put points of its own on the board.

And Randle El needs to stop running into Redskins. Against the Rams he had a good return stopped when he ran into a Redskin and was stopped at the 1 when he ran into Thrash, causing Thrash to be injured.

MTK 10-20-2008 07:17 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
5-2 is the only mark that matters.

I think people get too caught up in the stats. A win is a win.

Slingin Sammy 33 10-20-2008 09:45 PM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[quote=GMScud;492178]Our lack of scoring when compared to all other offensive statistics is pretty glaring......yet a paltry 23rd in scoring.....[/quote]
Great point. Is M. Kelly healthy, I don't see him on the injury report? I'd really like to see us take a shot or two with him in the Red Zone. He's a big, physical, athletic target. Inside the 20, take a shot with him on a fade a couple times a game and let the kid make a play. Same thing could be done with Davis if we get him matched up on the outside with a SS or LB. Even if they don't make the play, it makes the D play more honest covering the outside corner in the RZ.

Ruhskins 10-21-2008 02:31 AM

Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Browns)
 
[B]Penalties[/B] - while few of them, really threw at least two drives out of sync. The first one was on Sellers, which negated a long Portis run. The second one was a hold on Samuels, which I believe did the same thing.

[B]Fumblelitis[/B] - In the past two games, the offense has coughed up the ball 5 times and lost 4 of them, including two by Cooley. Come on guys, let's hold on to the ball. It's not like we played a top 5 defense.

[B]Pass Rush[/B] - It's nice that we can get in a QBs face and bat down passes, but we need to start getting to the QB.

[B]Attitude[/B] - I am not sure if this is a "problem" but this year's league is crazy. We can't overlook any teams from now on, even the lowly Lions. We need to play with the same hunger that we had against Dallas and Philly on the road. Oh and not to forget that we play all of the division teams again at home. Yes it is at home, but we still have to play them and we have to show up. Our team has a shot at being a division winner, they have the talent to do so.


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