Are the lions really as bad as they seem?
 

from what i have seen,they played their closest game yesterday at houston.
does anybody else think we are walking into a hell of a bad situation next week?granted,we'd have beaten the rams if we had not have had the fumbles,are these guys anywhere close to being as competitive as the rams were before they beat us?i hate games against winless teams!!!!!!

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Yes, they are quite terrible. Whereas the Rams and Browns both improved their defensive efforts following the bye, the Lions have remained just as bad on defense.

The Lions' score against the Texans got inflated by a 96 yd TD pass to Calvin Johnson that was an 8 point swing following a conversion (and probably a ten point swing once you conider that it pulled them out of horrible field position). That play absolutely never happens vs. the Redskins.

The Lions are probably much, much worse than they seem.

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i just hate having to play a team that has not won a game this season at their place on week 8.it's like asking mrs kennedy "how was the car ride not counting your husband's" murder?" you know what i mean?

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The only thing that concerns me about the Lions is us. We have struggled to put up points against teams that we have dominated in yardage. We can't keep this up, it keeps the other team believing that they still have a chance to win. Even as bad as the Lions are all they would need is a fluke play to win a close game.

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If your starting quarterback is so bad he doesn't even realize he's been out of bounds for like the last 30 feet and he's still trying to continue the play, then yes, it's a sign of just how bad things are. I don't think he'll ever live that down.

But yes, I'd say the Lions are probably the worst or the second worst team in football right now, it's either them or the Bengals. The only good thing the Lions have going for them is Calvin Johnson, without him they'd look even worse on offense.

I'd like to reiterate though, that this is another trap game. We gotta stay focused this week and put the beatdown on them. We all saw what happened last time we looked ahead and dismissed the Rams, and I'd argue the Rams looked worse before their bye week than the Lions do now.

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[quote=GTripp0012;492044]Yes, they are quite terrible. Whereas the Rams and Browns both improved their defensive efforts following the bye, the Lions have remained just as bad on defense.

The Lions' score against the Texans got inflated by a 96 yd TD pass to Calvin Johnson that was an 8 point swing following a conversion (and probably a ten point swing once you conider that it pulled them out of horrible field position). That play absolutely never happens vs. the Redskins.

[B]The Lions are probably much, much worse than they seem.[/B][/quote]

:lol: Now that's funny. Seriously...they have nothing to play for! The fans are horrible and the GM/ownership is in disarray.
Their offense is ranked 27th and the defense is dead last allowing an average of 418yds a game :rofl:
Anyone who's seen my predictions knows I'm very conservative. But this is one in which I [B]REALLY[/B] want to see a damn blow out!

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Um yeah, the Lions really are that bad.

They have a good shot at going winless.

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would'nt it be great to see portis get 300 yards rushing and set a new nfl record?
i'll be happy if we just win baby.

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They have no QB. With the Roy Williams trade they have gave up the season. Only Detroit can go 0-16.

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The Lions are terrible. They looked ok yesterday because Houston isnt much better.

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I think the Roy Williams trade officially put the team in rebuild mode for next year. Who knows, maybe they will get lucky this year and draft another stud WR! Yeah, that's the answer!

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They are bad, their first 4 games, but the last two, against the Vikings and the Texans were close. Until we actually put the points up to blast a weaker team, every opponent has to be considered capable

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Yes, the Lions are god awful. Dan Orlovsky? Really? Also, I believe they are close to if not the worst rushing team in football, coupled with an inexperienced QB and piss poor defense.

There have been plenty of games this year where we can't finish drives and score about 20 points less than we're capable of putting up. This needs to be the game where we hang 35-40 points. 2 rushing TDs for Portis, 3 passing TDs for Cambpell, throw in a FG or two, and we should be right there. Hell, how about a defensive TD? The way the Lions turn it over, it should be possible.

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I'm smelling a shutout.

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Det is a bad team so I'd have to say yes. If we go in there and turn it over, or score 14 points we could lose.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492102]I'm smelling a shutout.[/quote]

i hope so,but are they as bad as they seem?they should bemotivated this week,how many times do you get a chance to beat one of the 3 best teams in the nfc at home for your first victory?

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One big difference between the Rams and the Lions is quarterback. The Rams have a bona fide QB; the Lions have someone who would not be playing but for the injury to Kitna. I say we run the ball 50 times.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492102]I'm smelling a shutout.[/quote]

Based on pass history, if its a shutout the score will be anywhere from 2-0 to7-0, either way

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Well if you look at our loss to the Rams then look at how they ran right over Dallas then we can honestly say they are not that bad of a team. They really got lucky in that we really beat ourself and the ball bounced their way. Then look at the Browns and how they romped the Giants so we could argue that they are also not as bad as people think. Now the Lions are a differenty story and I feel we will score alot and often against them.

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I would like a blow out, but we seem to play down to these lesser teams. So all i want is a win

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This should be the blowout everyones been looking for. Like Matty, I'll be surprised if they even score on us.

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The Lions are indeed that bad. They are as bad as last year's Dolphins.

The Redskins should score at least 30 points against them - - and maybe 40. The Lions' pass defense is awful and they cannot stop the run. Other than that...

I don't think it is reasonable to expect the Skins' defense to pitch a shut-out, but holding the Lions to 10 or under is definitely a reasonable expectation.

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Anything can happen but listen, if we want to do some big things in 2008, I think we need a big game to show we can put some points on the board. I feel like we're right there, but just can put it all together.

We need to show we can win comfortably against inferior teams. We need a 17+ point differential this week. The Lions do have some talent but we have much more.

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In the NFL you can never overlook an opponent. Anyone can beat you. We need to take the Lions very seriously.

That having been said, if we take the Lions seriously, this week is our best chance for the blowout which we all have been rooting for. The Lions are miserable in every phase of the game except #1 WR. They appear to be much worse than either the Rams or the Browns. I believe that the Bengals would win a matchup against the Lions.

The Lions are averaging being down 9-0 at the end of the first quarter. We need to go up on them quickly.

The Lions do have ex-Redskin Martin Mayhew in the front office. Maybe he'll improve them for next year.

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[quote=GTripp0012;492044]Yes, they are quite terrible. Whereas the Rams and Browns both improved their defensive efforts following the bye, the Lions have remained just as bad on defense.

The Lions' score against the Texans got inflated by a 96 yd TD pass to Calvin Johnson that was an 8 point swing following a conversion (and probably a ten point swing once you conider that it pulled them out of horrible field position). That play absolutely never happens vs. the Redskins.

The Lions are probably much, much worse than they seem.[/quote]

Tell us how you really feel.

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Aren't we always nervous about the Lions but we always end up blowing them out.

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I watched the Lions several times last year, and what always stood out is how bad they are in the trenches. They can get those big passes in the open field (of course Roy E. isn't there anymore) but they had no idea how to operate in the red zone and in short yardage situations. I thought they might rectify that this year with Martz gone, but they're even worse in those situations this year. The Lions have no concept of running the ball, wearing out the opponent, controlling the clock, all the things the Redskins excel at.

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The Browns are a mid-level team. The Rams are playing inspired since dumping Linehan (and they have 3 of the better skill players in the league). Why do people think either of these teams are horrible but somehow the Eagles are great?
The Lions on the other hand are historically bad. Like, '76 Bucs bad. They are definitely looking at the #1 overall pick (hopefully another in the top 10 if the Pokes implode). If they score a TD Blache might pummel someone on the sidelines.

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[quote=rypper11;492275]The Browns are a mid-level team. The Rams are playing inspired since dumping Linehan (and they have 3 of the better skill players in the league). Why do people think either of these teams are horrible but somehow the Eagles are great?
The Lions on the other hand are historically bad. Like, '76 Bucs bad. They are definitely looking at the #1 overall pick (hopefully another in the top 10 if the Pokes implode). If they score a TD Blache might pummel someone on the sidelines.[/quote]Because the Eagles beat the Rams by like 5 TDs? And the crappy Cowboys beat the Browns by 3 TDs.

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[quote=rypper11;492275]The Browns are a mid-level team. The Rams are playing inspired since dumping Linehan (and they have 3 of the better skill players in the league). Why do people think either of these teams are horrible but somehow the Eagles are great?
The Lions on the other hand are historically bad. Like, '76 Bucs bad. They are definitely looking at the #1 overall pick (hopefully another in the top 10 if the Pokes implode). If they score a TD Blache might pummel someone on the sidelines.[/quote]

Yes, let's hope the Lions have two top-10 picks next year!

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[quote=GTripp0012;492277]Because the Eagles beat the Rams by like 5 TDs? And the crappy Cowboys beat the Browns by 3 TDs.[/quote]

You can be damn sure today's Rams would give today's Eagles a much, much tighter game. They're obviously a much better team with Haslett calling the shots.

The Cowboy's were 100% healthy week 1, and more importantly they hadn't faced a lick of adversity. The week after week pounding the NFL doles out tests a man's resiliency and toughness. The Cowboys' players have neither. They are coddled and babied and poorly coached, and it shows plain as day.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;492179][B]The Lions are indeed that bad. They are as bad as last year's Dolphins.[/B]
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We needed OT to beat them...
We need to take every team seriously or we will get knocked out early.

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[QUOTE=jamf;492291]We needed OT to beat them...
We need to take every team seriously or we will get knocked out early.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with sportscurmudgeon. If we lose to the Lions, we should not be considered a playoff-caliber team with the strength of the NFC South (3 teams) and our division. Portis is going to have a field day on their last ranked defense. Their passing and run defenses aren't in the top 30 in the NFL. Rookie RB Kevin Smith and Rudi Johnson? Skins 27-10.


REDSKINS 2008 RANKINGS

Offense Rank Yards/Game
Total Offense 7 353.6
Defense Rank Yards/Game
Total Defense 6 278.7

LIONS 2008 RANKINGS
Offense Rank Yards/Game
Total Offense 27 265.0

Defense Rank Yards/Game
Total Defense 32 418.7

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[quote=SanFranSkinsFan;492296]I have to agree with sportscurmudgeon. If we lose to the Lions, we should not be considered a playoff-caliber team with the strength of the NFC South (3 teams) and our division. Portis is going to have a field day on their last ranked defense. Their passing and run defenses aren't in the top 30 in the NFL. Rookie RB Kevin Smith and Rudi Johnson? Skins 27-10.


REDSKINS 2008 RANKINGS

Offense Rank Yards/Game
Total Offense 7 353.6
Defense Rank Yards/Game
Total Defense 6 278.7

LIONS 2008 RANKINGS
Offense Rank Yards/Game
Total Offense 27 265.0

Defense Rank Yards/Game
Total Defense 32 418.7[/quote]

Scoring offense: tied for 22nd.

Must...score...more

Re: Are the lions really as bad as they seem?
 

Orlovsky lacks experience apart from experience running out of the end zone. Hammer him early and often and he will make mistakes. We need to find our pass rush.

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Skins by 17... They are who we thought they were!

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[quote=itvnetop;492309]Skins by 17... They are who we thought they were![/quote]

just a minute,does'nt dennis green have that patented?:lol:

:lol::laughing-

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With the Redskins, the way they keep teams in games, there are very very few times where I feel confident in a blowout (ask anyone how nervous I was for the St. Louis game)....but with Detroit...I'm feeling a complete blowout. I really am not worried about this game at all..the Lions really are that bad.

St. Louis had some things going for them at the time they played us (not saying we still didtn lay an egg)...but I really look at Detroit and can't see a single positive...There really is no excuse to not win this game...really theres no excuse to not win this game by at minimum double digits.

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[quote=jamf;492291]We needed OT to beat them...
We need to take every team seriously or we will get knocked out early.[/quote]

good response jamf, we did indeed need OT to beat the phins last year. With the fact that you never can tell which way the ball will bounce, our recent ability to pick up drive killing penalties and our inability to pull away from inferior teams . . . . no win is guaranteed, we have to come out and not allow the lions to stay in the game.

we beat the browns by a few yards, we havent proven to be a killer team yet.

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Don't underestimate the Lions. They always play above their talent at home and have nothing to lose. The Lions have some talented players, just like the Rams, and on any Sunday, they can put it all together. The Redskins need to put them away early. It would be nice to see a blowout and not have to hold on at the end of the game.