$150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins?
 

[B](CBS) [/B]Since she's been on the campaign trail, Sarah Palin has received a lot of attention over her wardrobe, her hair, even her glasses.

Now, Politico.com is reporting the Republican National Committee has spent more than $150,000 on clothes and accessories for Palin and her family.

link: [url=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/22/earlyshow/main4538064.shtml?source=mostpop_story]$150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins?, RNC Said To Have Shelled Out At Least That Much For "Campaign Accessories" For Family - CBS News[/url]

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She's a celebrity. She can't be wearing TJ Max shoes and Target Suits. Even Joe the Plumber can understand that can't he?

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150K is alot but I am sure the Dems are spending a lot on useless things as well. Also being a women running for office, makes you a target and people jump on things really quickly. Therefore spending on clothes should be higher for women seeking office.

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A good pants-suit costs a lot of money.

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Glade you brought this up.

Senator Hillary Clinton is the biggest porker of the three. 281 earmarks worth $296 million. Senator Obama is next. 53 earmarks worth $97 million. Senator John McCain has never requested an earmark.”

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[quote=hooskins;492726]150K is alot but I am sure the Dems are spending a lot on useless things as well. Also being a women running for office, makes you a target and people jump on things really quickly. Therefore spending on clothes should be higher for women seeking office.[/quote]

[quote]Politico told [B]CBS News[/B] it hasn't been able to identify any similar expenditures on the Democratic side.
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150k on clothes though? Really?

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[quote=firstdown;492731]Glade you brought this up.

Senator Hillary Clinton is the biggest porker of the three. 281 earmarks worth $296 million. Senator Obama is next. 53 earmarks worth $97 million. [B]Senator John McCain has never requested an earmark[/B].”[/quote]
where did you get this little tidbit at? let me guess, fox news?

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[url=http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-earmark/]Think Progress » McCain Falsely Claims He Has ‘Never Asked For A Single Earmark Or Pork Barrel Project’ For His State[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk72;492743]150k on clothes though? Really?[/quote]
I agree it is a bit outlandish, but I don't know if Clinton was on the ticket, the Dems would not be spending as much.

Also I never said Dems would be spending as much on clothing, but on other pointless things as well.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492702][B](CBS) [/B]Since she's been on the campaign trail, Sarah Palin has received a lot of attention over her wardrobe, her hair, even her glasses.

Now, Politico.com is reporting the Republican National Committee has spent more than $150,000 on clothes and accessories for Palin and her family.

link: [URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/22/earlyshow/main4538064.shtml?source=mostpop_story"]$150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins?, RNC Said To Have Shelled Out At Least That Much For "Campaign Accessories" For Family - CBS News[/URL][/quote]

Why haven't we ever talked about how much suits and shoes cost for the boys? ... Huh? ..

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What's the big deal? Both sides do it, the article said as much. It didn't have a bill total for Hillary but mentioned that she would get $2500 haircuts. These people are loaded....Hillary, Bush, Gore, John Kerry, McCain. Does anyone honestly think these politicians live like you and I? Come on.

Not saying it might not be the best thing to be doing but hey both sides do it.

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Yupp like I said, if we want to get on Obama, I think he has made a LOT of money just selling books. he has been making millions every year, mostly from book sales.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492751][URL="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-earmark/"]Think Progress » McCain Falsely Claims He Has ‘Never Asked For A Single Earmark Or Pork Barrel Project’ For His State[/URL][/quote]
The one for the building was a seperate bill which was not stuck in on the back pages of another bill. So congree has to vote on that straight up and I'm not sure if thats really considered pork spending. The other is for a buffer zone around a Air Base and I just don't know if thats considered port in a defense spending bill. We have that issue here in our area because the navy jets practice right over peoples homes. So from my perspective its a defense issue.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492702][B](CBS) [/B]Since she's been on the campaign trail, Sarah Palin has received a lot of attention over her wardrobe, her hair, even her glasses.

Now, Politico.com is reporting the Republican National Committee has spent more than $150,000 on clothes and accessories for Palin and her family.

link: [URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/22/earlyshow/main4538064.shtml?source=mostpop_story"]$150G From GOP For Fashions For Palins?, RNC Said To Have Shelled Out At Least That Much For "Campaign Accessories" For Family - CBS News[/URL][/quote]
So that's what those contribution requests I get every other day are for :madani:

However it's pretty convenient Politico couldn't find any numbers on what's been spent on the dems side. I'm sure Hillary, Kerry and Edwards were running up the same or more excessive bills.

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[quote=dmek25;492748]where did you get this little tidbit at? let me guess, fox news?[/quote]

Heck no I went right to the Obama web site for one. These are list of pork he has stuck into bills and he is proud of asking congress for over 900 million for his pet projects.[URL="http://obama.senate.gov/press/070621-obama_announces_3/"]Obama Announces FY08 Federal Funding Requests | U.S. Senator Barack Obama[/URL]

Or maybe you could look at fact check to read about his 3 million for an overhead projector. [URL="http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_request_a_3_million_overhead.html"]FactCheck.org: Did Obama request a $3 million 'overhead projector,' as McCain claimed?[/URL]

Or how about this site were they show that for every working day (Monday-Friday) Obama has been in ofice has asked for an average of a million dollars on pork spending. [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/718/"]PolitiFact | McCain's got Obama over a pork barrel[/URL]

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[quote=firstdown;492802]Heck no I went right to the Obama web site for one. These are list of pork he has stuck into bills and he is proud of asking congress for over 900 million for his pet projects.[URL="http://obama.senate.gov/press/070621-obama_announces_3/"]Obama Announces FY08 Federal Funding Requests | U.S. Senator Barack Obama[/URL]

Or maybe you could look at fact check to read about his 3 million for an overhead projector. [URL="http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_request_a_3_million_overhead.html"]FactCheck.org: Did Obama request a $3 million 'overhead projector,' as McCain claimed?[/URL]

Or how about this site were they show that for every working day (Monday-Friday) Obama has been in ofice has asked for an average of a million dollars on pork spending. [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/718/"]PolitiFact | McCain's got Obama over a pork barrel[/URL][/quote]
But polls show that independents have more confidence in Obama and the economy :frusty:

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;492804]But polls show that independents have more confidence in Obama and the economy :frusty:[/quote]
Funny how they point out 150g that was spent with non taxpayer money but don't have a problem with all the pork Obama has asked for. A million dollars for every working day he has been in office.

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[quote=firstdown;492795]The one for the building was a seperate bill which was not stuck in on the back pages of another bill. So congree has to vote on that straight up and I'm not sure if thats really considered pork spending. The other is for a buffer zone around a Air Base and I just don't know if thats considered port in a defense spending bill. We have that issue here in our area because the navy jets practice right over peoples homes. So from my perspective its a defense issue.[/quote]

Call it what you will, sounds like earmarks to me.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/earmark.check/]Fact Check: McCain earmark claims examined - CNN.com[/url]

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The clothes and the cost is not entirely the point, but rather the context in which Palin and the GOP have portrayed her. That being a small town Mayor from Wassilla, who connects with and is in touch with Joe Six Pack and hardworking, pro-Americans as she puts it. That's the point. We're fussing over the dollar amount, when it's the principle that I would be concerned with. No one really gave a shit when Jackie Kennedy, Cindy McCain, Teresa Heinz-Kerry, or anyone else who spent a gazillion dollars on clothes. Because they didn't present themselves as common and in touch with the average Joe. They never pretended to understand the financial struggles of small town America. They were people of means and didn't apologize for it. People respected that, even if they didn't agree with it. So this smacks of hypocrisy as far as Palin's critics are concerned.

Moreover, and to take all of this a step further, the GOP has tried to paint Barack as an elitist and out of touch, among other things. So there is a huge disconnect between who they say they are, and the type of campaign they're actually running.

Both sides are and have been less than perfect during this election. I'm sure Barack spends a pretty penny on his suits, but he does make decent money in the Senate and has two number one best sellers to show for it. And still, he leads a fairly modest lifestyle. But I digress.

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[quote=12thMan;492822]The clothes and the cost is not entirely the point, but rather the context in which Palin and the GOP have portrayed her. That being a small town Mayor from Wassilla, who connects with and is in touch with Joe Six Pack and hardworking, pro-Americans as she puts it. That's the point. We're fussing over the dollar amount, when it's the principle that I would be concerned with. No one really gave a shit when Jackie Kennedy, Cindy McCain, Teresa Heinz-Kerry, or anyone else who spent a gazillion dollars on clothes. Because they didn't present themselves as common and in touch with the average Joe. They never pretended to understand the financial struggles of small town America. They were people of means and didn't apologize for it. People respected that, even if they didn't agree with it. So this smacks of hypocrisy as far as Palin's critics are concerned.

Moreover, and to take all of this a step further, the GOP has tried to paint Barack as an elitist and out of touch, among other things. So there is a huge disconnect between who they say they are, and the type of campaign they're actually running.

Both sides are and have been less than perfect during this election. I'm sure Barack spends a pretty penny on his suits, but he does make decent money in the Senate and has two number one best sellers to show for it. And still, he leads a fairly modest lifestyle. But I digress.[/quote]

Well stated

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[quote=Mattyk72;492821]Call it what you will, sounds like earmarks to me.

[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/10/earmark.check/"]Fact Check: McCain earmark claims examined - CNN.com[/URL][/quote]

Well ok McCain has had 24 mill (thats what your saying I'll just agree) in his long term and Obama in less then two years has over 900 mill. You guys seem to ignore those numbers and want to turn this over as a McCain issue when it clearly an OBama issue.

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I take issue with McCain saying one thing and doing something entirely different. Honestly FD, is he senile or just a liar? He seems to double talk a lot. Does that concern you at all?

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[quote=Mattyk72;492840]I take issue with McCain saying one thing and doing something entirely different. Honestly FD, is he senile or just a liar? He seems to double talk a lot. Does that concern you at all?[/quote]

Well it seems by your link provided that Obama also says McCain has not taken any earmarks.
The Obama campaign points out that although [URL="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/candidates/john.mccain.html"][B][COLOR=#004276]McCain[/COLOR][/B][/URL] hasn't asked for earmarks, his running mate hardly has room to talk.

Yes Obama has never changed his mind or Flip Floped lie is the word you like.
NAFTA
Drilling for Oil
Campain Financing
Iraq War

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[quote=firstdown;492841]Well it seems by your link provided that Obama also says McCain has not taken any earmarks.
The Obama campaign points out that although [URL="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/candidates/john.mccain.html"][B][COLOR=#004276]McCain[/COLOR][/B][/URL] hasn't asked for earmarks, his running mate hardly has room to talk.

Yes Obama has never changed his mind or Flip Floped lie is the word you like.
NAFTA
Drilling for Oil
Campain Financing
Iraq War[/quote]

I didn't say anything about Obama, I asked how you felt about McCain saying one thing and doing the complete opposite. Sometimes he changes his tune from one day to the next, it just seems bizarre.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI]YouTube - John McCain vs. John McCain[/ame]

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Well you started this thread to point out the the Rep Party has spent over 150 thousand on clothing for Palin and her family. I then put it back on you about the spending habbits of Obama and pork spend he has received and the 900 million he has asked for but everytime you skip the subject. So you don't have issues with his waisted pork he has received and tried to get in less than two years? Seems like he is preaching for change but he is just one of the things we need change from. Sorry but my home computer sound is not working so I could not listen to your clip. I'm sure its McCain changing his mind but every politician does and I list just a few that Obam has done the same thing.

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Just watch the clip when you can, seems like McCain can't even remember what his stances are on things. He literally goes back and forth from one minute to another at times.

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[quote=Mattyk72;492915]Just watch the clip when you can, seems like McCain can't even remember what his stances are on things. He literally goes back and forth from one minute to another at times.[/quote]
Well your still avoiding the point and ignoring Obama's spending of tax payers money.

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Well, you avoided my original point right from the start and jumped right into this earmark bs, so fair is fair.

So who is the elitist here?

Obama in his worn out soled shoes

[IMG]http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/obama-shoes-400.jpg[/IMG]


Or Miss Hockey Mom/Joe Six-Pack in her $2,500 Valentino jacket?

[IMG]http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/ap/a828e401-42e2-4ac0-b837-94d7b8ebd93d.widec.jpg[/IMG]

I'm sure Joe the Plumber can really relate to blowing through $150,000 on clothes and makeup when the average American household spends less than $2k on clothes per year.

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Ding ding ding, round one Matty!

But for real, where did you get that pic of his shoes?

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Whatever Matty, Bill Clinton has expensive suits! And don't get me started on Al "I invented the Italian loafer" Gore! And the earmarks, don't forget the earmarks!

Right back at you. Hope you aren't sweating from the heat I'm bringing to your door, booyah!:Smoker:

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seems excessive... and she also put family expenses as "business" costs while in office in alaska (non work related trips, food, etc)... the 123$mill for a worthless bridge that she said she wouldn't build (AFTER the news media got hold of it, not before) and she kept that money for the state.

her husband was in the alaskan independence party, her witchdoctor pastor... the insane lies about obama...

no offense, but for a "maverick reformer" she seems VERY self serving and morally grey.

edit: alaska independence thing was from 1986, so that's a completely moot point in my eyes (too long ago). sorry.

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[quote=hooskins;492971]Ding ding ding, round one Matty!

But for real, where did you get that pic of his shoes?[/quote]

I can't take credit for it, I saw it on MSNBC last night

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[quote=Mattyk72;492959]Well, you avoided my original point right from the start and jumped right into this earmark bs, so fair is fair.

So who is the elitist here?

Obama in his worn out soled shoes

[IMG]http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/obama-shoes-400.jpg[/IMG]


Or Miss Hockey Mom/Joe Six-Pack in her $2,500 Valentino jacket?

[IMG]http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/ap/a828e401-42e2-4ac0-b837-94d7b8ebd93d.widec.jpg[/IMG]

I'm sure Joe the Plumber can really relate to blowing through $150,000 on clothes and makeup when the average American household spends less than $2k on clothes per year.[/quote]
Well I do find it funny you keep avoiding the question of his pork spending and Obama's request for over 900 million in TAX PAYERS money and keep jumping back to either McCain changing his mind or Palin's none tax payers money for her and her famlies clothing. 900 million in tax payers v/s 150 grand in GOP money is a hugh difference. This comes from a man who now says he wants to cut the budget but his prior actions says he has never tried to cut spending but rather he increased spending with his over 230 million in pork projects. If he had all his pork passed that number would grow to over 900 million and thats just in the few years he has been in office. How about Palin in her $2,500 suit (paid for by the GOP) or Obama's 3 million projector? I think I'll go with the person who is not waisting the tax payers money.

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It's not the dollar amount that I'm taking issue with, it's the double standard of accusing Obama of being an elitist while portraying yourself as being an advocate for the average American, then blowing an insane amount of money on a wardrobe. It just makes no sense to me, but then again the entire McCain campaign hasn't made much sense either. Every week they throw a new piece of shit against the wall to see if it will stick, and usually it's something they are already guilty of themselves. It's comical really.

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[url=http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14835.html]What are the candidates hiding? - Kenneth P. Vogel - Politico.com[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk72;493013]It's not the dollar amount that I'm taking issue with, it's the double standard of accusing Obama of being an elitist while portraying yourself as being an advocate for the average American, then blowing an insane amount of money on a wardrobe. It just makes no sense to me, but then again the entire McCain campaign hasn't made much sense either. Every week they throw a new piece of shit against the wall to see if it will stick, and usually it's something they are already guilty of themselves. It's comical really.[/quote]

You did not think Gore had a double standard when he was asking for everyone to cut back on energy use while he was using all that energy for his homes and jet. Wasn't he being an advocate for being Green while he was out burning up all that energy?

Matty's quote about Gore and his double standard:

"I'm more concerned about the message vs. the messenger, it's important to keep this issue at the forefront:"

And

"Ugh just forget about who is saying it, that's not what's important"

The point is you did not care that Gore lived by double standards but now for some reason it very important to you that some how Palin is living by double standards. I would also bet you money that Palin is not out buying most of this stuff because she would not have the time to do so and its not tax payers money. I just cannot believe how the left is so concerned over $150,000 but while Obama says he wants to reduce spending has asked over and over again for pork projects to the tune of over 900 mil. That my friend is a double standard one that the tax payers are paying. I also finaly watched your clip and it was not very good. So no that does not concern me.

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they have a blank check with a limited spending window unless they win the election then they are filthy rich

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politics is where the money is . how did obama raise 150 million in one month sounds kind of fishy to me. who gave him that kind of money arabs?chinese?

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[quote=firstdown;493026]You did not think Gore had a double standard when he was asking for everyone to cut back on energy use while he was using all that energy for his homes and jet. Wasn't he being an advocate for being Green while he was out burning up all that energy?

Matty's quote about Gore and his double standard:

"I'm more concerned about the message vs. the messenger, it's important to keep this issue at the forefront:"

And

"Ugh just forget about who is saying it, that's not what's important"

The point is you did not care that Gore lived by double standards but now for some reason it very important to you that some how Palin is living by double standards. I would also bet you money that Palin is not out buying most of this stuff because she would not have the time to do so and its not tax payers money. I just cannot believe how the left is so concerned over $150,000 but while Obama says he wants to reduce spending has asked over and over again for pork projects to the tune of over 900 mil. That my friend is a double standard one that the tax payers are paying. I also finaly watched your clip and it was not very good. So no that does not concern me.[/quote]

You found nothing odd about him going back and forth on gay marriage from literally one minute to the next? I support it, now I don't, now I do, now I don't. Wow.

You totally missed my point on Gore, then and now, but whatever.

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[quote=Mattyk72;493031]You found nothing odd about him going back and forth on gay marriage from literally one minute to the next? I support it, now I don't, now I do, now I don't. Wow.

You totally missed my point on Gore, then and now, but whatever.[/quote]
Well if I'm correct he states he is against it but thinks its a state issue. Those clips can cut off what ever they don't want you to hear and I don't think gay marriage is the big issue Americans face today. I did not miss the point about Gore but I did notice your double standard. You still have not answered the question I have asked now about 5 time about Obama's pork spend and all the pork he has asked for over the short time he has been in office. So does it not concern you that he has asked for over 900 million in pork spending and he thinks it is so great that he even list the pork projects on his web site?

Heck on his own web site he talks about cutting spending and waistful prok spending.[url=http://www.barackobama.com/issues/fiscal/#restore-discipline]Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Fiscal[/url]

Problem is here on his same site he brags about all the prok projects he has tried to get passed.[url=http://obama.senate.gov/press/070621-obama_announces_3/]Obama Announces FY08 Federal Funding Requests | U.S. Senator Barack Obama[/url]