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Well guys, I thought we should start a thread thanking the new coach and our team for a great season to this point.

I am not crowning the team as champions of the East or saying we are in the playoffs, but I want to thank all our players, Coach Zorn and the whole Redskins staff.

Thanks you guys!! I expect the second half of the season to be just as good. This could finally be our year to win the division and who knows what else. Keep up the good work guys and strive to keep getting better each week.

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Before the season started I would have expected 4-4 at this point, maybe 5-3 at best. The scary part is this team is capable of playing so much better. They're still working out the kinks but they're winning in the process.

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Yeah 6-2 was just not something I thought we'd do. I might have optimistically thought we could do it with some help but it wouldn't have been reasonable. That said I think we're walking a line right now and we need to take some serious steps away from it. We have to start putting a little dominance into our performance. Not saying we need to win 40-0 every week but we have to impose our will and finish better or we could be 2-6 down the stretch. The positive is that this team is playing better football collectively than we have in years.

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[quote=Mattyk72;494499]Before the season started I would have expected 4-4 at this point, maybe 5-3 at best. The scary part is this team is capable of playing so much better. They're still working out the kinks but they're winning in the process.[/quote]

Matty I completely agree with you. I did not have any idea what to expect out of this team or our new coach. And you are right, if we can figure out how to put this offense together we can be scary good.

The way Zorn has released some of that talent that Jason has is awesome and it makes you feel good about the future of this team with Jason at the helm. As long as he continues to improve.

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JC with 0 INTs through 8 games. Nobody would have guessed that back in August.

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Im with FRPLG. I'm happy for the strong start as far as record goes, but we have a lot of work to go. If we work on our red-zone offense we could be a damn good team.

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I never thought this team would be 6-2 at this point. Its amazing what a coach with a modern concept of the game can do.

This team is 2/3 of the way to the playoffs with half the season to go. The have put themselves in an excellent position at the mid point of the season. Now they need to bear down and get to 9 wins asap.

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[quote=Mattyk72;494506]JC with 0 INTs through 8 games. Nobody would have guessed that back in August.[/quote]


No Ints and how about only one fumble. Last year he was a fumble machine!!

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This is the best Redskins team I can ever remember watching. (I was 2 years old in 1991) They may not be dominant but they are getting it done. 6-2 is just amazing after years and years of 2-4 and 3-5 starts leading to 8-8 and 7-9 seasons.

Jason Campbell is looking like a pro bowl quarterback this year so far, and if you had told me in August that he would have 0 interceptions after 8 games, I would've asked you if it was Todd or Colt that took his job.

Lets just pray that they can improve and limit stupid mistakes, and we could be looking at a deep run and maybe even some home games in the playoffs.

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[quote=InsanePianist;494533]This is the best Redskins team I can ever remember watching. (I was 2 years old in 1991) They may not be dominant but they are getting it done. 6-2 is just amazing after years and years of 2-4 and 3-5 starts leading to 8-8 and 7-9 seasons.

Jason Campbell is looking like a pro bowl quarterback this year so far, and if you had told me in August that he would have 0 interceptions after 8 games, I would've asked you if it was Todd or Colt that took his job.

Lets just pray that they can improve and limit stupid mistakes, and we could be looking at a deep run and maybe even some home games in the playoffs.[/quote]

I mean, they started 5-3 in 2007 and 2005 and 1999 (I won't mention the 6-2 start in 2000). Let's not get too crazy with the 'greatest team since 1991' thing. Steelers are going to be tough this week.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;494496]Well guys, I thought we should start a thread thanking the new coach and our team for a great season to this point.

I am not crowning the team as champions of the East or saying we are in the playoffs, but I want to thank all our players, Coach Zorn and the whole Redskins staff.

Thanks you guys!! I expect the second half of the season to be just as good. This could finally be our year to win the division and who knows what else. Keep up the good work guys and strive to keep getting better each week.[/quote]

Well said!
And please..... I don't want to hear how we are not winning "pretty" or we "should have won by a larger margin." I mean C'mon! The truth is if we hadn't committed so many of those garbage penalties that kept their drive alive (ending in a TD) and stopped who knows how many of our 1st downs the game [B]would[/B] have been a blow out. But at the end of the season we all know a win is a win.
The thing is any [B]one[/B] team going into playing a winless team could have lost or sweated out the game out with a close win. [B]ANY TEAM![/B] Now I'm sure the Chicago forums are all saying "watch the trap game"..."lets not play down to a winless team"....just like we were. LOL

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[quote=Mattyk72;494499]Before the season started I would have expected 4-4 at this point, maybe 5-3 at best. The scary part is this team is capable of playing so much better. They're still working out the kinks but they're winning in the process.[/quote]

oh soo true matty..i like what i,ve seen to this point with still alot to work on..

the stretch run will tell us all.....thanks here too and keep it going..

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[quote=FRPLG;494503]Yeah 6-2 was just not something I thought we'd do. I might have optimistically thought we could do it with some help but it wouldn't have been reasonable. That said I think we're walking a line right now and we need to take some serious steps away from it. We have to start putting a little dominance into our performance. Not saying we need to win 40-0 every week but we have to impose our will and finish better or we could be 2-6 down the stretch. The positive is that this team is playing better football collectively than we have in years.[/quote]

I agree. We could very easily be 4-4 also. We haven't been turning the ball over and still just pulling out wins. If we are really that good, then we should be winning by bigger margins playing turnover free games against the teams we have faced the past 3 weeks.

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Great job by the team, they're exceeding expectations.

I'm thrilled with our ability to move the ball, but I want to see us winning the turnover battle. Lately we've been losing that battle.

When we go to play NYG, Dallas, and Philly again - the games that will make or break our season - we're going to need the turnover battle on our side.

The offense is doing a decent enough job protecting the football lately, but the defense isn't generating any. We need to turn that around, and I'd point toward the pass rush. We need to generate more pressure on the QB, that should lead to the turnovers which would allow us to start winning more convincingly.

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We had a couple of turnover chances yesterday on fumbles that literally didn't bounce our way, those are so frustrating. And of course Rogers had one bounce off his hands, again. But at least he's playing at a high level.

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I think the main reason we have won so many is due to Portis and Campbell.
The D is better than I thought it would be....
But Portis' ability to keep the clock rolling and Campbell's lack of ints basically have won us half the games....and that points to the oline to an extent.

I was honestly expecting like 3-5 at this point considering a rookie head coach.
6-2 is AWESOME.

Just think...we are ranked #7 in offense.
Imagine if we were ranked higher than #23 in points scored.
That is the only reason we haven't been consistently winning by 2 scores.
Although I am obviously happy we are winning, as Matty said, imagine how much better they will be once they start cashing in on all those yards.
They can be quite good....but right now, struggling with easy teams,
They are a wild card contender, just like the end of last year.
They need to step it up if they want to make a run for the Super Bowl.
Opportunities like this don't come around very often.

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[quote=Mattyk72;494499]Before the season started I would have expected 4-4 at this point, maybe 5-3 at best. The scary part is this team is capable of playing so much better. They're still working out the kinks but they're winning in the process.[/quote]

I'm always OVERLY optimistic at the beginning of the year but 6-2? For the first time in a very long time this team has exceeded my expectations coming out of the gate. And yes, it is scary how good this team can be given time. I was already telling myself to be patient with this new offense. It would take a couple of years to implement it to the degree of having any real success. The job the coaches and players have done is nothing short of outstanding. I've been saying once the "O" gets clicking, WTF OUT! We're so close fellas. So close.

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a little more luck and we could have been 8-0... a little bit less luck, and well...

good job so far, but there are definitely places to improve, and our rookie pull, so far, has sucked :(. at least horton is rocking it.

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[quote=skinsnut;494573]I think the main reason we have won so many is due to Portis and Campbell.
The D is better than I thought it would be....
But Portis' ability to keep the clock rolling and Campbell's lack of ints basically have won us half the games....and that points to the oline to an extent.

I was honestly expecting like 3-5 at this point considering a rookie head coach.
6-2 is AWESOME.

Just think...we are ranked #7 in offense.
Imagine if we were ranked higher than #23 in points scored.
That is the only reason we haven't been consistently winning by 2 scores.
Although I am obviously happy we are winning, as Matty said, imagine how much better they will be once they start cashing in on all those yards.
They can be quite good....but right now, struggling with easy teams,
They are a wild card contender, just like the end of last year.
They need to step it up if they want to make a run for the Super Bowl.
Opportunities like this don't come around very often.[/quote]

Portis is having another great season and if a big part of it, but have to give dues to the OLine, especially the left side. They are doing a great job of opening holes for Portis. Run blocking has been awesome and pass blocking so so, but Campbell has made good decisions so far when under pressure.

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[quote=That Guy;494576]a little more luck and we could have been 8-0... a little bit less luck, and well...

good job so far, but there are definitely places to improve, and our rookie pull, so far, has sucked :(. at least horton is rocking it.[/quote]

Ya with some bad luck we could easily be 2-6 considering games have been so close and we haven't turned the ball over. We haven't dominated any game which I would love to see. Hopefully that is coming. If we are going to have a hot streak and start scoring, the second half of the season is a good time to start. :)

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Let's not forget the emergence of Chris Horton as a strength that became a weakness after ST died, also the spectacular comeback by Carlos Rogers.

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[quote=Schneed10;494568]Great job by the team, they're exceeding expectations.

I'm thrilled with our ability to move the ball, but I want to see us winning the turnover battle. Lately we've been losing that battle.

When we go to play NYG, Dallas, and Philly again - the games that will make or break our season - we're going to need the turnover battle on our side.

The offense is doing a decent enough job protecting the football lately, but the defense isn't generating any. We need to turn that around, and I'd point toward the pass rush. We need to generate more pressure on the QB, that should lead to the turnovers which would allow us to start winning more convincingly.[/quote]

I would think the turnovers would start coming our way again once we get our defense back to full strength. We have been missing at least 2 or 3 defensive starters a week. If we can get this unit together, healthy, and really playing as a unit they could be scary good. ( With turnovers coming thier way. ) How about London Fletcher. That guy is all over the field usually with Horton hot on his heels.

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Think of preseason concerns:
1. Oline getting old, injuries.
2. Can Campbell stop fumbling and win games?
3. LB depth problem
4. Safety...particularly Doughty....and depth
5. DE/sack ability problem
6. DT not strong enough
7. Who's our punter?
8. Can Carlos Rodgers even come back by midseason...and can he even equal past?
9. Can McIntosh come back within 1st Month, will he perform?
10. Can Moss and Campbell ever synch up?
11. Will ARE return punts worth a crap?
12. Will our Rookie WR/TE get playing time, are they good or do they suck?
13. Can Zorn be a Head Coach? Can he call plays?
14. Will we regret ditching Gregg Williams?
15. How will we play the Cowboys with a new coach?

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I am happy with the first half and confident they will keep it rolling. They will be battle tested and ready for the playoffs. Everyone must admit this team plays for 60 mins.

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I think most of us are in agreement...6-2 at mid-season is awesome. However, my two concerns for the second half of the season are;
1. D-Line getting pressure on the QB, which could lead to some much needed Defensive turnovers.
2. And our lack of a 2-minute offense. It seems the no huddle does not exist.

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[quote=skinsnut;494630]Think of preseason concerns:
1. Oline getting old, injuries.
2. Can Campbell stop fumbling and win games?
3. LB depth problem
4. Safety...particularly Doughty....and depth
5. DE/sack ability problem
6. DT not strong enough
7. Who's our punter?
8. Can Carlos Rodgers even come back by midseason...and can he even equal past?
9. Can McIntosh come back within 1st Month, will he perform?
10. Can Moss and Campbell ever synch up?
11. Will ARE return punts worth a crap?
12. Will our Rookie WR/TE get playing time, are they good or do they suck?
13. Can Zorn be a Head Coach? Can he call plays?
14. Will we regret ditching Gregg Williams?
15. How will we play the Cowboys with a new coach?[/quote]

1. our line is playing pretty damn solid
2.i say sign this man to a long term extension...pronto. the longer you wait and if he gets to the pro bowl...we will pay more
3. our line backers have played great..fletch is a monster
4. ala horton
5. still an issue..
6. could be better, but playing adequate.
7. a chunky former seattle seahawk
8. possibly pro bowl bound? who would have thought?
9. been playing very very solid...would like to see more aggresiveness here and there.
10. umm yes....and it kick ass.
11. no...no he cant.
12. no...no they arent worth crap..at least not yet.
13. he rocks so far.
14. i am GLAD we ditched greg...it makes me feel...well kinda zorny.
15. 1 done the second to come.

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On the monday morning quarterback this morning on espnradio with kevin sheehan and the guys they compared the team to a really powerful engine that is running but sputters occasionally. So true, whats in place has more potential than anything and as games go by hopefully they solidify and we see how dangerous this team, esp. the offense can be. Who would have though this after that opening Giants loss? ummm..nobody

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It was'nt all pretty, but we got to learn while still winning. You can't beat that, I believe we've just begun and still have a tremendous upside. Think when Samuels, and Horton are back. And I'll take our D against anybody on the weeks Spring does'nt have a yeast infection or vaginitis. By the way that fat fuck peter king still has us behind buffalo and now new england, Who has buffalo even played and miami just beat them give me a break. We were sloppy but we won they lost What the fuck?

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dude peter king is an idiot...if anything im happy we are winning to shove it up his ass.

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considering i had us for an 8-8 season (give or take a win based on shuisham missing or making a last second fg) and needing to win the last 4 to make the playoffs, i am freakin pumped at being 6-2!! while we all expected a work in progress season it still is but the great thing is we havent even clicked on all cylinders yet. they say you have to hit your stride at the right time and i think we have some stride hitting to do in the latter part of the season.

one thing im surprised to find out: we have given up 17 passes 20+ yards and something like 4 passes over 40 yards. i know fitzgerald had one but 4 really seems high. i was just surprised we had given that many big pass plays up so far.

go skins!!

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[quote=InsanePianist;494533]This is the best Redskins team I can ever remember watching. (I was 2 years old in 1991) They may not be dominant but they are getting it done. 6-2 is just amazing after years and years of 2-4 and 3-5 starts leading to 8-8 and 7-9 seasons.

Jason Campbell is looking like a pro bowl quarterback this year so far, and if you had told me in August that he would have 0 interceptions after 8 games, I would've asked you if it was Todd or Colt that took his job.

Lets just pray that they can improve and limit stupid mistakes, and we could be looking at a deep run and maybe even some home games in the playoffs.[/quote]

I don't know if they are the best Redskins team that I have seen. But, whether winning ugly or even losing ugly, this team is more fun to watch than any Redskins team that I can remember for awhile. They do it with style and tenacity and make you believe that they can do anything. Win or lose, it's fun.