Zornometer midterm grade
 

Rank your confidence in Zorn halfway through the season. (1 = no confidence, 5 = total confidence).

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I'm a 4. He clearly knows what he is doing. To me a 5 is someone who has won a SB. He won't be a 5 to me until then.

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I think I was a 5 a couple of weeks ago. The loss to the Rams lowered that a bit. I am a solid 4 and I think thats fair.

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He's still at 4. I don't think I can give him a 5 until the season ends with a SB trophy.

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Definitely give him a 4. If it weren't for the St.Louis game (I know, I know, fumbles weren't his fault, but the buck stops with him as HC), he'd be a 5 right now. If we score more and figure out the whole turnover/sack thing, he'll quickly become a 5 in my book.

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redskins look good so far have a tough monday night coming.i think we can do it at home!

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I have total confidence this guy can take it to the Lombardi.......soon

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looks like everyone is just about on the same page. 4

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4. Fix the red zone offense and we have a long-term head coach.

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I gave him a 5 in mid-August, and I'm standing by that. His relationship with and development of Jason Campbell is the reason that he was brought in. The players obviously appreciate Zorn's approach, and play very hard for him. If they can eliminate the self destructive penalties that keep the O from finishing drives, this team will become much harder to beat.

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I gave him a 3, I have had him at a 4+ to 5 on the last two polls, and I still have confidence in him. However, I am starting to wonder about his play calling around the opponents 40-20. Yes its all the penalties/fumbles etc that are killing drives, but that is what a coach is supposed to be coaching up. Our drives consistently stall around the 35yd line, and I wonder if opposing d's are seeing something, or not enough practice is going to that situation.

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[quote=Daseal;494604]4. Fix the red zone offense and we have a long-term head coach.[/quote]

exactly.

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I started him from a 2 in preseason...cause hes a rookie, the Giants game proved that.
Then after Dallas, I gave him a 3...
After Philly I gave him a 4 because it wasn't a 1 game fluke...
However,
My main perspective is this.
You give a coach a 4 if he can get you to the playoffs, You give him a 5 if you are a hall of famer or get you to the Superbowl.

Right now...If I could, I'd give him a 3.5, because the team has played down to the Rams and Lions. He has had some questionable coaching decisions, deciding to go conservative at the end of 4th quarters against weaker teams.
I think teams have figured out how to keep his offense between the 20s too.
He needs to adjust some stuff offensively to get us to score more.
That is a big step for a Rookie HC.

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I liked the Zorn hiring from the minute it was announced but I never dreamed it would be working out so good so soon. He is a tell it like it is, breath of fresh air in this organization, and his coaching aint bad either.

Right now he's a 5 (subject to change).

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Sticking with my four since the beginning of the season. I need a full season of him as head coach and at least a deep deep playoff run before I give him a 5

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he gets a b plus from me...keep jason developing and get those rookies on the same page with the rest of the team so you can throw the ball DOWNFIELD

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b+? I didn't see that option.

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I gave him a 3, because I feel he's between a 3 and 4, and I just happened to round down.

6-2 is great, and I'm very glad that the Skins are where they are at this point, there is still a lot of work to do against some tough teams. While the Skins are moving the ball all over the place, they are having the same point scoring issues Gibbs 2.0 had. A 4 would have been blowouts vs. the Rams, Browns and Lions. But these games were too close to call, and this team is going to have to step it up in the 2nd half of the season.

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Tough audience out there -- the only way he has your complete confidence is to win a SB? There are many excellent coaches who haven't.

For me, the metric is threefold: (1) has he got his guys playing as well as they're capable of playing, (2) does he call a good game, and (3) does he make sound personnel decisions. So far, I think he has done each of those things quite well and will only get better.

Inheriting a team from a coaching legend the year after one of its stars is murdered has got to be as tough a challenge coming into coaching as anyone has ever faced. Zorn has not only handled it with great passion and smarts, but displays guts in play calling that is reminiscent of Gibbs v. 1.0. And he's done it withouth going out and buying a bunch of guys he knows -- the only real FAs are Jason Taylor, Plackenmeyer, and now Shaun Alexander (who is a temp for Betts). The rest of the new players are rookies. So he's been able to do better than last year with largely the same talent. And it would be hard to identify the guys who are underperforming this season. Portis, Moss, Campbell, Rogers, Cooley -- a number of guys are having terrific seasons. We haven't been finishing drives (especially in the red zone) as we should, which is troubling, and much of that is small lapses and some penalties. But with greater familiarity with the new system (which is still only about 3 months old), I have confidence that they'll work out the kinks. I think Zorn is going to turn out to be a terrific hire, and whatever faults The Danny has (and there are many), this was a good decision.

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I gave him a 5.

I am confident in Zorny and I am either confident or not. So for me my answers is either a 1 or a 5. Way to go Coach! Hail to the brugandy and black!

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The thread says rank him on "confidence". So I give him a 5 I'm VERY confident that he has control of his team and has the leadership to get us to the promised land. His play calling has been spread out and yes he needs to work on the RED ZONE offense. But after his stern "talking to" of Clinton P and his passion shown at the press conference... only backs up my choice. I can say I am very confident of him. And the fact he is a 1st year HC just makes it all silly good :-)

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I would love to see the people giving him a 3 explain that stance to his face press conference style.

[B]5[/B]

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[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;494696]I would love to see the people giving him a 3 explain that stance to his face press conference style.
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I gave the reasons for that I gave him a 3. The poll asks for a [B]confidence[/B] level right now. at 3-1 I was very confident. Now he has had the team for 13 games, as he said in the Monday press conference, and we still have penalties, killed drives and poorly executed plays on the opponents side of the 50.
I am still far happier with him then any other would have been coach, but remember he basically was given a team with lots of brimming talent. I believe we have scored less than at this point last year (if i am wrong I am sure someone will correct me).
I am a big Zorn supporter, love his approach etc. But I need to see us progress to the point where we can sustain drives inside the 40 yd line before my confidence goes back up.
I am sure Zorn is a confident enough man, that me saying this to him at a press conference would be met with a gracious agreement then proceed to tell me how he is working to change it, with lots of fascinating analogies to get the point across:)

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[quote=calia;494666]Tough audience out there -- the only way he has your complete confidence is to win a SB? There are many excellent coaches who haven't.[/quote]

Name one. If you can't win the big one then you can't be "excellent" in my book.

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I will correct myself
2007 after 8 games PF 152
2008 165

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3 - It seems I keep waiting for the bubble to burst. Like it's too good to be true. I just don't have that "world beater" feeling yet.

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I went with a 5.

He's exceeded my expectations so far and he looks like he belongs as a NFL Head Coach. He should only improve as he gains more experience too.

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I gave him a 4. I'm sold on this guy. I love how he holds everyone accountable. My one problem is I wish we'd throw some more passes downfield so we could perhaps score a little quicker.

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Definitely a 4 in my book. I'd like to see better clock management out of him, but that's something that comes with experience. Also, some of his success has been based on lack of scouting information on him. I'll give him a 5 when other teams think they know exactly what he is going to do, and he still trounces them.

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5. I don't see how anyone can NOT have total confidence in him.

He doesn't stand for losing, or even mistakes. Ask Durant Brooks. Even ask Portis after this week, not a lot of coaches will rip their star player apart like that, but still get results.

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[quote=Hog1;494599]I have total confidence this guy can take it to the Lombardi.......soon[/quote]

yes we finally have something going on. we just need to be rolling when the playoffs come and we have to beat the freaking giants.convinsingly

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I gave him a 5 because of just the situation Zorn was in. I do agree; if your going to rate coaches who have been in the league 3+ years, then I would use the 5 for someone who wins playoff games/Super Bowls. But for him to lead this team to 6-2 with much better play calling and an obviously positive effect on Jason Campbell, I couldn't give him anything less.

He has exceeded my expectations.

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The only time I've questioned the Z-Man was at halftime of the Detroit game when I was pissed they would'nt take a shot downfield. Then Campbell hits Moss for about 59 yards. Do I have full confidence in him? Yes. I give him a 5.

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I gave him a 5. I was expecting a 2 after week 1. A win is a win. Beat Dallas and Phili on the road. 6-2 deserves a 5. When was last time Redskins went 6-2? 1992?

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[quote=Buster;494723]5. I don't see how anyone can NOT have total confidence in him.
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There are several reasons why some dont have TOTAL confidence in him.
Lets just take the last game.
Against the Lions, opening drive, getting 10 yard chunks.
Then at the 3 yard line, you get fancy and run Campbell...thats right CAMPBELL...why? I have no idea, we end up getting a FG and firing up the home crowd on a goal line stand. Buges and Gibbs would have smashed em in the mouth with Sellers/Portis 4 times in a row and destroyed their confidence.

Also, at the end of the game, not going for the first down to seal the game, rather choosing to run some clock out and giving the ball back...he did that agaist the Browns and Rams too I think...at least one of em....
What happened to the go for the throat in this situation...is that only agaist teams that are playoff contenders?

And he still hasn't found a way to convert yards to points...defensive coordinators have figured him out a bit....keep everything between the 20's and that sometimes neutralized time of possesion.

And until they pulled ARE on punt returns, I would say that was lame....I was screaming for it..next thing I see, Moss returns one for a TD...so I'll shut up on that one.

I gave him a 4, but he needs to evolve, adjust his play-calling a bit to get in the endzone, where the hell is Cooley inside the 20?...Sellers can even grab some, where is our 2 TE set in that situation that everyone used to justify sigining a rookie TE? Right now this offense is all Moss and Portis...defenses know we cant do a fade in the corner of the endzone because of height issues.
Kudos on benching Jansen when he was sucking.

Regarding Defense.
We should have benched Jason Taylor by now, he obviously has no experience benching himself in order to get healthy....now were in risk of losing any productivity for the year...
James should be groomed, Wilson should be used more, even Washington as end occassionally, we are not being creative enough on the DE position in 3rd and long
...and....what about Washington....at some point, we may need to bench him to, if blades is any better.

Special teams has been particularly weak on coverage.
Good job on ditching the rookie punter, the new guy looks fat and servicable.
High risk move changing holders though, I would have used the backup QB from preseason to avoid risk...however, the gamble has paid off and things look fine.

I have also noticed that sometimes Zorn struggles to get plays called soon enough in the last 2-3 games...costing timeouts on a couple occasions.

Overall, he is doing great but playing down to competition does not equal a 5 to me....if you cant blowout the Lions, you cant blowout anyone.
He's got a lot to learn...but overall, I am suprised at how well he is doing.
It was wise to not change the running game or the defense.

Big kudos from me...just don't drink all the kool-aid in one gulp.

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^

We won. :)

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:goodjob:

I agree almost 100% with skinsnut. There's a lot to be happy about, but Zorn still needs to get better in some key areas.

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[quote=Buster;494935]^

We won. :)[/quote]

We won 4 in a row with Gibbs 2.0 (twice). I don't see anyone dishing out 5s there. Like the man said - sip the kool-aid slowly for best effect.

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Solid 4. I very impressed in the direction the team is going. I'm holding back the 1 until I see the team fire on all cylinders. Right now, they play well enough to win. I would like to see some killer instinct and put teams away early and roll it up until the end. The offense shows great potential but they have to convert more third downs, score more touchdowns and commit less penalties. The defense does a great job of limiting the opposition but they still are not creating turnovers or sacks. To beat good teams, they need to create turnovers.

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I give him a

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