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Is anyone else watching this? Has he said anything new? I am still undecided and he is saying good stuff but it seems to be lacking substance.

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I'm recording it.

If anything I think it's a good strategic move on his part to get back into the prime time eyes of the country one last time before the election.

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He must have a insane ammount of campaign money to purchase all this air time on all these stations.

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I live in hampton roads VA. The ford plant here closed and boy was that tough for everyone.

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I was almost hoping Obama would win my vote tonight. He did not. I still don't know

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I just want to hear him say, "Set it and forget it!"

RonCo? Anybody?

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What is it that you want Barack, or for that matter, John McCain to say that they haven't already said? These candidates have gone at great lengths to explain and re-explain their respective positions.

I find it quite remarkable that, after nearly two years of campaigning, people say they are still undecided? Please help me out here.

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[quote=12thMan;495461]What is it that you want Barack, or for that matter, John McCain to say that they haven't already said? These candidates have gone at great lengths to explain and re-explain their respective positions.

[B]I find it quite remarkable that, after nearly two years of campaigning, people say they are still undecided? Please help me out here[/B].[/quote]

Yeah that confuses me too. Might as well flip a coin if you don't know by now.

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I was hypnotized by his words. Must...vote...for... Obama. What a powerful speaker he is. Ina bizarre way, it kind of reminds me of stories my grandfather told me of a guy in Europe that had an amazing gift for public speaking.

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Maybe it's just me. The only way I can think to explain it is that my gut says McCain but my heart says Obama. How to choose?

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[quote=724Skinsfan;495464]I was hypnotized by his words. Must...vote...for... Obama. What a powerful speaker he is. Ina bizarre way, it kind of reminds me of stories my grandfather told me of a guy in Europe that had an amazing gift for public speaking.[/quote]

That's a bit extreme, don't you think?

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[quote=VABCHSKINSFAN;495469]Maybe it's just me. The only way I can think to explain it is that my gut says McCain but my heart says Obama. How to choose?[/quote]

You mentioned your heart and your gut, but what is your mind telling you? Not trying to come off as wise guy, but seriously, how does your personal situation and ideals fit into their views and policies? And I'm talking about which guy you would rather have a beer with or anything like that. Because both of them drink beer:)

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[quote=SmootSmack;495470]That's a bit extreme, don't you think?[/quote]

That was a test of assumptions. My grandfather survived the London bombings and would tell us stories of another great European orator to which I was referrring to...Winston Churchill.

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[quote=12thMan;495471] And I'm talking about which guy you would rather have a beer with or anything like that. Because both of them drink beer:)[/quote]

Being a vet myself I would rather have a beer with McCain. I bet he has some sick sea stories!

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[quote=VABCHSKINSFAN;495476]Being a vet myself I would rather have a beer with McCain. I bet he has some sick sea stories![/quote]

Well being someone from the inner city, I'd rather have one with Obama. I bet he has some interesting stories about organizing on the South Side of Chicago back in the day.

If you want some kick ass Naval sea stories, I'll supply you a few in exchange for a cold one:)

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[quote=12thMan;495477]If you want some kick ass Naval sea stories, I'll supply you a few in exchange for a cold one:)[/quote]

I might take you up on that~

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[quote=724Skinsfan;495474]That was a test of assumptions. My grandfather survived the London bombings and would tell us stories of another great European orator to which I was referrring to...Winston Churchill.[/quote]

My bad. I thought you were clearly referring to Sir Laurence Olivier

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[quote=SmootSmack;495480]My bad. I thought you were clearly referring to Sir Laurence Olivier[/quote]

Damn. I thought he was talking about Benjamin Disraeli.

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Personally I thought the 30 minute slot was very moving. I was watching it at the gym. I found it hard not to bust out in tears on the treadmill. :(

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It is going to be moving. They are going to make him look like gold. He is just a common guy, great father, blah, blah, blah. They could even make Charles Manson look like a great candidate. They both scare me.

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[quote=12thMan;495471]You mentioned your heart and your gut, but what is your mind telling you? Not trying to come off as wise guy, but seriously, how does your personal situation and ideals fit into their views and policies? And I'm talking about which guy you would rather have a beer with or anything like that. Because both of them drink beer:)[/quote]

Good point. I am still disheartened that so many people in this country do not vote on principles and ideals. Most people in this country vote based on which guy seems nicer or which seems like he'd be sorta cool. When i hear people say "I think I'll vote for Obama because he seems like he'd be a good guy" or vice versa. How about understanding what each candidate supports and finding the one that hits home to you based on your own positions. It really isn't hard.

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[quote=Skins fan 44;495486]It is going to be moving. They are going to make him look like gold. He is just a common guy, great father, blah, blah, blah. They could even make Charles Manson look like a great candidate. They both scare me.[/quote]

Why settle for Charles Manson when you can go with Adolf Hitler?

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[quote=Skins fan 44;495486]It is going to be moving. They are going to make him look like gold. He is just a common guy, great father, blah, blah, blah. [B]They could even make Charles Manson look like a great candidate.[/B] They both scare me.[/quote]

Somehow I doubt that. He's in jail, he doesn't have voter privilege let alone presidential! Try again. :rofl:

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[quote=saden1;495504]Why settle for Charles Manson when you can go with Adolf Hitler?[/quote]

So true.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;495483]Personally I thought the 30 minute slot was very moving. I was watching it at the gym. I found it hard not to bust out in tears on the treadmill. :([/quote]

Tears? really? Are we talking about a politician or a member of the Jonas Brothers?

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I watched and the whole time thought they needed a caption saying. I LIED TO PAY FOR THIS COMERCIAL. If he would have stuck to his words and used public financing (which he praised so much) he could have never afforded this comercial. He saw greener grass in not having the limitations of public funding so he back tracket on his words.

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[quote=firstdown;495545]I watched and the whole time thought they needed a caption saying. I LIED TO PAY FOR THIS COMERCIAL. [B]If he would have stuck to his words and used public financing (which he praised so much) [/B]he could have never afforded this comercial. He saw greener grass in not having the limitations of public funding so he back tracket on his words.[/quote]

It is interesting how little that is brought up. I guess there are no funny YT clips to go with it.

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[quote=FRPLG;495491]Good point. I am still disheartened that so many people in this country do not vote on principles and ideals. Most people in this country vote based on which guy seems nicer or which seems like he'd be sorta cool. When i hear people say "I think I'll vote for Obama because he seems like he'd be a good guy" or vice versa. How about understanding what each candidate supports and finding the one that hits home to you based on your own positions. It really isn't hard.[/quote]

Unfortunately a lot of people vote on superficial reasons. I'm not sure what's worse, doing that or not voting at all. I'm sure there will be plenty of votes for McCain simply because of Obama's skin color and/or name, which is truly pathetic. The sad truth is a large portion of the population is not educated enough to make decisions based on critical thinking.

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[quote=SmootSmack;495546]It is interesting how little that is brought up. I guess there are no funny YT clips to go with it.[/quote]

Funny and sad at the same time. Every time I hear these Obama fanboys I think of the song "Cult of Personality" by Living Colour.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495549]Unfortunately a lot of people vote on superficial reasons. I'm not sure what's worse, doing that or not voting at all. I'm sure there will be plenty of votes for McCain simply because of Obama's skin color and/or name, which is truly pathetic. The sad truth is a large portion of the population is not educated enough to make decisions based on critical thinking.[/quote]
While thats true there is also a group that is voting for him because of his skin color. So you have a problem with those buses the dems have that go around and pick people up promising them money for their time of they go and vote. Remember that group who the Dems taught how to vote but they used the wrong sample ballet. They then took them all to the polls and they voted for some unknown person then srceemed they where disinfranchised.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495549]Unfortunately a lot of people vote on superficial reasons. [B] I'm not sure what's worse, doing that or not voting at all.[/B] I'm sure there will be plenty of votes for McCain simply because of Obama's skin color and/or name, which is truly pathetic. The sad truth is a large portion of the population is not educated enough to make decisions based on critical thinking.[/quote]

Definitely people voting based on superficial reasons. There's no rational and justifiable reason for voting superficial, while I can see several good reasons not to vote at all.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495549]Unfortunately a lot of people vote on superficial reasons. I'm not sure what's worse, doing that or not voting at all. I'm sure there will be plenty of votes for McCain simply because of Obama's skin color and/or name, which is truly pathetic. The sad truth is a large portion of the population is not educated enough to make decisions based on critical thinking.[/quote]

Yep.

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[quote=SmootSmack;495546]It is interesting how little that is brought up. I guess there are no funny YT clips to go with it.[/quote]

1. Obama was the only candidate to respond to the [URL="http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/content/Questionnaire_Midwest_Democracy_Network_Obama_02192008.pdf"]questionare regarding public financing[/URL] and here's what he said:

[quote][B]Q[/B]: If you are nominated for President in 2008 and your major opponents agree to forgo private funding in the general election campaign, will you participate in the residential public financing system?

A: I have been a long-time advocate for public financing of campaigns combined with free television and radio time as a way to reduce the influence of moneyed special interests. I introduced public financing legislation in the Illinois State Senate, and am the only 2008 candidate to have sponsored Senator Russ Feingold’s (D-WI) bill to reform the presidential public financing system. In February 2007, I proposed a novel way to preserve the strength of the public financing system in the 2008 election. My plan requires both major party candidates to agree on a fundraising truce, return excess money from donors, and stay within the public financing system for the general election. My proposal followed announcements by some presidential candidates that they would forgo public financing so they could raise unlimited funds in the general election. The Federal Election Commission ruled the proposal legal, and Senator John McCain (R-AZ) has already pledged to accept this fundraising pledge. [I][B]If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.[/B][/I]
[/quote]

2. Obama said "I will peruse" not "I pledge." It might seen a semantics to the untrained eye but there's a huge difference. If I say I'm coming to your party, I am coming to your party unless there's some sort of emergency. If I say I'll try to come to your party, it's highly likely I won't because I suspect a) it's going to be boring or b) there will be too many sussages not enough vegtables.

3. Like him or not Obama is a genius. He basically [URL="http://saos.nictusa.com/saos/searchao?SUBMIT=ao&AO=604"]planned ahead[/URL] to make sure whatever he decded he was covered under the law.

4. He get's the majority, 97% I beileive, of his money from small donors. Why handicap yourself my limiting the reach of your message when you don't have to? Even if you look at it from the "bright side" he's saving tax payers money and he's not accountable to any big interest lobbyists.

5. McCain and the RNC don't exactly instill confidance in anyone because a) McCain can't really raise any money otherwise he would have opted out too, I mean he has been unscrupulous so offten during this election cycle it hard not to come to this conclusion, b) he has been using public financing for the last two months only which means from March 1st to to August 31st (6 months) he has been using money that didn't come from the public finance pool, c) he waited to see what Obama would do before he commited to public financing which begs the question "why?"


Sorry, this a non-issue...don't get irate and playa hate.

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[quote=firstdown;495560]While thats true there is also a group that is voting for him because of his skin color. [B]So you have a problem with those buses the dems have that go around and pick people up promising them money for their time of they go and vote. Remember that group who the Dems taught how to vote but they used the wrong sample ballet. They then took them all to the polls and they voted for some unknown person then srceemed they where disinfranchised.[/B][/quote]

Huh? Please refresh my memory.

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[quote=saden1;495590]1. Obama was the only candidate to respond to the [URL="http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/content/Questionnaire_Midwest_Democracy_Network_Obama_02192008.pdf"]questionare regarding public financing[/URL] and here's what he said:



2. Obama said "I will peruse" not "I pledge." It might seen a semantics to the untrained eye but there's a huge difference. If I say I'm coming to your party, I am coming to your party unless there's some sort of emergency. If I say I'll try to come to your party, it's highly likely I won't because I suspect a) it's going to be boring or b) there will be too many sussages not enough vegtables.

3. Like him or not Obama is a genius. He basically [URL="http://saos.nictusa.com/saos/searchao?SUBMIT=ao&AO=604"]planned ahead[/URL] to make sure whatever he decded he was covered under the law.

4. He get's the majority, 97% I beileive, of his money from small donors. Why handicap yourself my limiting the reach of your message when you don't have to? Even if you look at it from the "bright side" he's saving tax payers money and he's not accountable to any big interest lobbyists.

5. McCain and the RNC don't exactly instill confidance in anyone because a) McCain can't really raise any money otherwise he would have opted out too, I mean he has been unscrupulous so offten during this election cycle it hard not to come to this conclusion, b) he has been using public financing for the last two months only which means from March 1st to to August 31st (6 months) he has been using money that didn't come from the public finance pool, c) he waited to see what Obama would do before he commited to public financing which begs the question "why?"


Sorry, this a non-issue...don't get irate and playa hate.[/quote]

saden, so have you gone back to admiring Obama?

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/455906-post1.html[/url]

Anyway, let's not act like if McCain had said the same exact thing you wouldn't be all over it

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No, I have always let it be that I am fond the truth.

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[quote=saden1;495590]1. Obama was the only candidate to respond to the [URL="http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/content/Questionnaire_Midwest_Democracy_Network_Obama_02192008.pdf"]questionare regarding public financing[/URL] and here's what he said:



2. Obama said "I will peruse" not "I pledge." It might seen a semantics to the untrained eye but there's a huge difference. If I say I'm coming to your party, I am coming to your party unless there's some sort of emergency. If I say I'll try to come to your party, it's highly likely I won't because I suspect a) it's going to be boring or b) there will be too many sussages not enough vegtables.

3. Like him or not Obama is a genius. He basically [URL="http://saos.nictusa.com/saos/searchao?SUBMIT=ao&AO=604"]planned ahead[/URL] to make sure whatever he decded he was covered under the law.

4. He get's the majority, 97% I beileive, of his money from small donors. Why handicap yourself my limiting the reach of your message when you don't have to? Even if you look at it from the "bright side" he's saving tax payers money and he's not accountable to any big interest lobbyists.

5. McCain and the RNC don't exactly instill confidance in anyone because a) McCain can't really raise any money otherwise he would have opted out too, I mean he has been unscrupulous so offten during this election cycle it hard not to come to this conclusion, b) he has been using public financing for the last two months only which means from March 1st to to August 31st (6 months) he has been using money that didn't come from the public finance pool, c) he waited to see what Obama would do before he commited to public financing which begs the question "why?"


Sorry, this a non-issue...don't get irate and playa hate.[/quote]
I guess thats like when he said he would debate any where at any time then decided not to take McCains offer to do those town hall type debates. He also opted out of public financing before the sides ever met to discuss the rules which he said he would do.

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That was probably better off for McCain, the town hall stuff wasn't his strength anyway.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495627]That was probably better off for McCain, the town hall stuff wasn't his strength anyway.[/quote]
Funny how when its Obama changing his mind its OK with you but if its McCain you point that out as a reason not to like or vote for him.

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[quote=Mattyk72;495549]Unfortunately a lot of people vote on superficial reasons. I'm not sure what's worse, doing that or not voting at all. [/quote]

I've never voted in any local, state or presidential election. I don't complain about previous administrations nor the current one. I don't have a problem with either Obama or McCain being president. Tax me more, tax me less. Whoop-dee-doo. A lot of people have it worse in this world than I ever will.