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53Fan 12-16-2008 04:59 PM

2009 Pro Bowl
 
Here you go guys.[url=http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story?id=09000d5d80d60467&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true]2009 Pro Bowl rosters[/url]

firstdown 12-16-2008 05:10 PM

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Not sure how react with only one starter but loosing does not help with these picks. We hit our loosing skid at about the time that the other 2/3 rds had to cast their votes. I'm just sorry Fletcher did not get in.

GMScud 12-16-2008 05:14 PM

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[quote=firstdown;512805][B]Not sure how react with only one starter[/B] but loosing does not help with these picks. We hit our loosing skid at about the time that the other 2/3 rds had to cast their votes. I'm just sorry Fletcher did not get in.[/quote]

The rationality of players and coaches casting their votes outweighed the ridiculous homerism of tens of thousands of Redskins fans filling out ballot after ballot with a Redskin starting at every single position.

However- CP, Samuels, Cooley, and FINALLY Sellers are all definitely deserving, and Fletch should no question be more than a 2nd alternate.

rypper11 12-16-2008 05:15 PM

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What? No Lions? A travesty!

Dirtbag59 12-16-2008 05:35 PM

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Can't believe Fletcher didn't make it. Landry probably should have gotten a closer look but he came on to late in the season. Either way not to crazy at the structure in which only 3 Safties get selected. Oh well at least I can see that there were less players selected this year solely on name alone. Probably one of the better things about Mike Vick going to prison.

Giantone 12-16-2008 05:47 PM

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Becuase I know you guys really care.:)

The team that was almost completely shut out of the Pro Bowl last year will be sending six players to Hawaii in February, 2009. [B]QB Eli Manning, C Shaun O’Hara, G Chris Snee, DE Justin Tuck, K John Carney and P Jeff Feagles[/B] will all be on the NFC Pro Bowl squad when the team is officially announced later today.For those interested in such things:

First Alternates
Chase Blackburn - special teamer
[B]Kevin Boss[/B] ????
Madison Hedgecock
Antonio Pierce

Second Alternate
Fred Robbins

Third Alternate
David Diehl
Brandon Jacobs

CancunCantinaBartender 12-16-2008 06:14 PM

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I was wondering how the NFL was going to fix the problem with Redskins fans voting in only Redskins. According to reports, with only a month to go in voting the Redskins had between 12 & 16 players heading to the Pro Bowl. Player and coaching votes must have been given heavy consideration!

MTK 12-16-2008 06:48 PM

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Nice to see Sellers get recognized. Congrats to Cooley, Samuels, and Portis too.

No such luck for Fletcher. It's a shame he'll probably retire with no Pro Bowl appearances.

calia 12-16-2008 06:51 PM

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This confirms for how dumb the Pro Bowl selection process is. No Fletcher, but 4 guys on our lackluster offense? Heck, it's our D that has kept is alive this season. London Fletcher is having an incredible season, and without his leadership, I cannot imagine what would be happening with this defense. This is really a shame.

53Fan 12-16-2008 07:41 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;512835]Nice to see Sellers get recognized. Congrats to Cooley, Samuels, and Portis too.

[B]No such luck for Fletcher. It's a shame he'll probably retire with no Pro Bowl appearances.[/[/B]QUOTE]

It really is. This was probably his best chance to go. Happy for Sellers. Both of them going would have made my day.... but its been that kind of year.

Redskin Warrior 12-16-2008 07:50 PM

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Damn Fletch you got snubbed again

Daseal 12-16-2008 08:23 PM

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How one of the worst offensive teams in the NFL sends four players is besides me. I know this isn't popular, but I don't think any of those players except maybe Sellers should go, and that's because he's not your typical fullback. Cooley has been mediocre at best and had some crucial fumbles, Portis has run hard -- but I'd take Westbrook, Turner, and Peterson ahead of him. Samuels I think has been hurt most of the season, certainly wasn't a pro-bowl one.

SeasonTicketHolder 12-16-2008 08:43 PM

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[quote=Giantone;512820]Becuase I know you guys really care.:)

The team that was almost completely shut out of the Pro Bowl last year will be sending six players to Hawaii in February, 2009. [B]QB Eli Manning, C Shaun O’Hara, G Chris Snee, DE Justin Tuck, K John Carney and P Jeff Feagles[/B] will all be on the NFC Pro Bowl squad when the team is officially announced later today.For those interested in such things:

First Alternates
Chase Blackburn - special teamer
[B]Kevin Boss[/B] ????
Madison Hedgecock
Antonio Pierce

Second Alternate
Fred Robbins

Third Alternate
David Diehl
Brandon Jacobs[/quote]

I think Antonio Pierce is one of the most overrated defensive players in the NFL.

DIRTEE 12-16-2008 09:01 PM

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[quote=SeasonTicketHolder;512864]I think Antonio Pierce is one of the most overrated defensive players in the NFL.[/quote]

He didn't look overrated keeping us out of the endzone.

53Fan 12-16-2008 09:20 PM

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The good news is..... at least there aren't 13 Cowgirls on the roster.

SeasonTicketHolder 12-16-2008 09:37 PM

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[quote=DIRTEE;512866]He didn't look overrated keeping us out of the endzone.[/quote]

Um, anyone can keep us out of the end zone. Pierce gets beat routinely.

atomicnixon 12-16-2008 10:23 PM

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Lol... yea... the Bengals did a pretty good job too... don't even try to say they're good.

53Fan 12-16-2008 10:32 PM

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I think WE keep OURSELVES out of the endzone more than anyone else does. :(

53Fan 12-16-2008 10:35 PM

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I think a good pass rush would have put 3 or 4 of our defensive backfield into the Pro Bowl. At least 2.

The Goat 12-16-2008 10:37 PM

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It's almost conspiratorial that Fletcher is held out of the Pro Bowl. IMO he deserved it more than anyone on the team, period. I hope he checks in at the Warpath every now and then [B]so he can see how much we love and appreciate this guy[/B].

53Fan 12-17-2008 12:03 AM

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[quote=The Goat;512888]It's almost conspiratorial that Fletcher is held out of the Pro Bowl. IMO he deserved it more than anyone on the team, period. I hope he checks in at the Warpath every now and then [B]so he can see how much we love and appreciate this guy[/B].[/quote]

Yeah. It'd be nice to find a way to show him how much we appreciate him. Maybe he realizes it by the fan vote. I hope so.

bigm29 12-17-2008 12:19 AM

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I think its odd how 4 players from offense made it and zero from defense when its our D that is actually pretty decent

Giantone 12-17-2008 04:14 AM

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[quote=SeasonTicketHolder;512864]I think Antonio Pierce is one of the most overrated defensive players in the NFL.[/quote]

People say the same thing about other players also,he earned it.

djnemo65 12-17-2008 08:23 AM

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[quote=Daseal;512861]How one of the worst offensive teams in the NFL sends four players is besides me. I know this isn't popular, but I don't think any of those players except maybe Sellers should go, and that's because he's not your typical fullback. Cooley has been mediocre at best and had some crucial fumbles, Portis has run hard -- but I'd take Westbrook, Turner, and Peterson ahead of him. Samuels I think has been hurt most of the season, certainly wasn't a pro-bowl one.[/quote]

Portis is third in the league in rushing. Westbrook is having the better month but injuries have severely limited his production this season. I don't know how anyone can argue with Clinton going.

Samuels is overrated for sure, but not anymore overrated than he has been the past gazillion years in a row he's gone. Plus, it's a down year for LT in the NFC so I can't freak out over that.

And Cooley, isn't there another thread bouncing around on here about a franchise TE receiving record or something? You would have to drop some pretty high profile fumbles for that to keep you out of the probowl.

I was really hoping that Suisham ended up sneaking through just so the the coach could be faced with the dilemma of having to decide whether or not to go for it on fourth and 7 at that 25 yard line.

joethiesmanfan 12-17-2008 08:24 AM

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[quote=Daseal;512861][B]How one of the worst offensive teams in the NFL sends four players is besides me. [/B] I know this isn't popular, but I don't think any of those players except maybe Sellers should go, and that's because he's not your typical fullback. Cooley has been mediocre at best and had some crucial fumbles, Portis has run hard -- but I'd take Westbrook, Turner, and Peterson ahead of him. Samuels I think has been hurt most of the season, certainly wasn't a pro-bowl one.[/quote]

My sentiments exactly. Or frame it another way. How does an offense with a Pro Bowl RB (he deserved it). Pro Bowl tight end and (he deserved it). Pro Bowl full back and (he deserved it). Pro Bowl tackle and (he deserves it every year that's how good he is). Yet our offense stalls. It is the scheme. It is the blocking schemes. It is this WCO philosophy with Joe Gibbs players. I believe you acquire the best players you can and then adjust your scheme. Come up with ideas that use the skills of your players to win games. All players are unique in ability. Grab a good player when you can because you can't predict the future. Players drafted for specific needs are not guaranteed to be good. Sucessful people take what they have to get what they want, a ring. Or like Republicans Neo Cons say "bloom where you're planted". I am sure Zorn can relate to my previous sentence.

Dblock804 12-17-2008 08:33 AM

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imagine someone from the OL is in the probowl;???? So if you get called for a penelty every game and your game is simulating a turnstyle you go? Wow.



Sorry Fletch

MTK 12-17-2008 09:17 AM

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The Pro Bowl honors individuals, not teams. I know it's hard to believe but we do have some deserving guys from the offense. Not saying the D doesn't, but outside of Fletcher who really stands out??

Monkeydad 12-17-2008 09:42 AM

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Fletcher and Horton should be alternates. They BOTH deserve to go, especially London.

Glad Sellers is a starter, he deserves it most years but never gets recognized.

redskinjim 12-17-2008 01:23 PM

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[quote=SeasonTicketHolder;512864]I think Antonio Pierce is one of the most overrated defensive players in the NFL.[/quote]

we should have kept pierce he was a lot better than most of us thought and he has been a major player against us ever since.

SeasonTicketHolder 12-17-2008 01:40 PM

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[quote=redskinjim;513007]we should have kept pierce he was a lot better than most of us thought and he has been a major player against us ever since.[/quote]

London Fletcher is worlds better.

over the mountain 12-17-2008 01:42 PM

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Congrats big mike!!!! i know what im asking for next christmas.

daseal - cooleys 5th in the NFC in receptions and third in total yards for TEs. (i think) pretty deserving imo but to each his own.

i think fletcher had a better year last year compared to this year and i should probaly check some stats before i open my mouth but he seemed to be every where last year, this year hes seemed to disappear for a few games but the man is a beast.

go skins!!! sellers being a starter makes me so freakin happy.

how does calvin johnson get snubbed? ouch.

Joe Kidd 12-17-2008 02:23 PM

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[quote=djnemo65;512931]Portis is third in the league in rushing. Westbrook is having the better month but injuries have severely limited his production this season. I don't know how anyone can argue with Clinton going.

Samuels is overrated for sure, but not anymore overrated than he has been the past gazillion years in a row he's gone. Plus, it's a down year for LT in the NFC so I can't freak out over that.

And Cooley, isn't there another thread bouncing around on here about a franchise TE receiving record or something? You would have to drop some pretty high profile fumbles for that to keep you out of the probowl.

I was really hoping that Suisham ended up sneaking through just so the the coach could be faced with the dilemma of having to decide whether or not to go for it on fourth and 7 at that 25 yard line.[/quote]

Portis, Sellers, Samuels, and Cooley all had Pro Bowl worthy seasons. I guess some people just aren't happy unless they are bitchin. Cooley has more catches than Witten, and Portis is 3rd in the entire league in rushing! Hard to argue with those facts. Samuels I guess can be argued but judging offensive lineman is pretty subjective. He's a well respected left tackle and when healthy is undoubtedly one of the top ones.

53Fan 12-17-2008 10:46 PM

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More than anything, I'm glad Sellers made it. He deserves it.

SkinDogg 12-17-2008 11:25 PM

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Does anyone ever actually sit through an entire Pro Bowl game? Dunno, maybe it's just me.

GTripp0012 12-18-2008 02:27 AM

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[quote=djnemo65;512931]Portis is third in the league in rushing. Westbrook is having the better month but injuries have severely limited his production this season. I don't know how anyone can argue with Clinton going.

Samuels is overrated for sure, but not anymore overrated than he has been the past gazillion years in a row he's gone. Plus, it's a down year for LT in the NFC so I can't freak out over that.

And Cooley, isn't there another thread bouncing around on here about a franchise TE receiving record or something? You would have to drop some pretty high profile fumbles for that to keep you out of the probowl.

I was really hoping that Suisham ended up sneaking through just so the the coach could be faced with the dilemma of having to decide whether or not to go for it on fourth and 7 at that 25 yard line.[/quote]Cooley is somewhat underserving this year, but I have man-love for him, and he got mad jobbed in 05 and 06, so I'll live with the injustice that John Carlson or Kevin Boss(?!) gets.

:D

GTripp0012 12-18-2008 02:31 AM

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Fletcher and Kendall both got screwed this year (Leonard Davis? Tony Romo's hand really likes that call). Rogers arguably did if you look at his total season performance, but if you just take his performance since we moved to predomantly man coverage, then he's not as good as Asante Samuel. And Chris Gamble (CAR) probably got screwed worse than Rogers did anyway.

shorty061605 12-18-2008 06:06 AM

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I like how no one mentions how Deangelo Williams got snubbed....he only has the most TDs in the whole league....people are stupid when they vote. He put in a lot of hard work during the off season and it definitely shows.

53Fan 12-18-2008 10:47 AM

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[quote=shorty061605;513177]I like how no one mentions how Deangelo Williams got snubbed....he only has the most TDs in the whole league....[B]people are stupid when they vote[/B]. He put in a lot of hard work during the off season and it definitely shows.[/quote]

What people are you referring to? The coaches and players vote carries more weight than the fans.

53Fan 12-18-2008 10:48 AM

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Welcome to the Warpath Shorty!

Giantone 12-18-2008 04:18 PM

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[quote=53Fan;513133]More than anything, I'm glad Sellers made it. He deserves it.[/quote]


Why?


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