Bill Parcells has opt-out clause, could walk away from Dolphins
 

Pretty interesting. Given the heavy fire Vinny & Co are constantly under, I'm sure there will be plenty of speculation about the Tuna.

He's obviously a gigantic upgrade in the personnel department over anything we have, but would Danny dump his racquetball buddy? I doubt it.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3795922]ESPN - Bill Parcells has opt-out clause, could walk away from Miami Dolphins[/url]

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[I]Would[/I] Parcells walk away though? I'm sure he could, but I'm not sure he would have any reason to.

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[quote=GTripp0012;515777][I]Would[/I] Parcells walk away though? I'm sure he could, but I'm not sure he would have any reason to.[/quote]

Did you read the article? Financially it would be the smart thing to do. When the sale of the Dolphins goes through, his contract states he can opt-out, get the full remaining balance of his $12M deal, and have ZERO attachments to the team. Any team could then sign him and wouldn't have to compensate Miami whatsoever.

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Normally I would say pay the man double and bring him on. But at this point no more change is the best change for the Redskins. IMO But, very interesting!

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I don't understand why we even bother to bring this up?

The likelihood Parcells walks away is slim, regardless of financial incentive. The likelihood that Snyder would consider bringing him in is even slimmer. Seems like a pointless discussion.

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[quote=Schneed10;515780]I don't understand why we even bother to bring this up?

The likelihood Parcells walks away is slim, regardless of financial incentive. The likelihood that Snyder would consider bringing him in is even slimmer. Seems like a pointless discussion.[/quote]

Let's see:

1) Parcells is one of the best personnel guys in football, and has a serious financial motivation to walk away from his current situation

2) Our front office makes plenty of blunders and is under heavy criticism

3) Snyder has a lust for ridiculous, spontaneous offseason acquisitions

4) If Parcells was willing to work with Jerry Jones, why wouldn't he work with Snyder?

I don't think we'll go after him, nor am I suggesting we should. However, it's worth a discussion.

Thanks for trying to shit all over it though. Good try.

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parcells will be an excellent addition to the front office for the skins, but i doubt he'll leave the dolphins anytime soon.

"FIRE VINNY CERRATO"

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[quote=Schneed10;515780]I don't understand why we even bother to bring this up?

The likelihood Parcells walks away is slim, regardless of financial incentive. The likelihood that Snyder would consider bringing him in is even slimmer. Seems like a pointless discussion.[/quote]

thank you, this is another useless thread. Sad, these days, any news is news.

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Parcells is one of the best personnel guys around. He has the coach he wants in Miami and I think for him to leave it would be a strictly financial decision. I don't think he needs the money but..... if his ego tells him to go to different teams and straighten them out...who knows?

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[quote=DarkKnight;515788]thank you, this is another useless thread. Sad, these days, any news is news.[/quote]

I don't understand, why bother to reply if you feel it's a useless thread. Anytime Parcells involved it's BIG news. Unless your new to the NFL. Why don't you start a thread that everyone is interested in. Personally I thought it was a very interesting topic.

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[quote=GMScud;515783]Let's see:

1) Parcells is one of the best personnel guys in football, and has a serious financial motivation to walk away from his current situation

2) Our front office makes plenty of blunders and is under heavy criticism

3) Snyder has a lust for ridiculous, spontaneous offseason acquisitions

4) If Parcells was willing to work with Jerry Jones, why wouldn't he work with Snyder?

I don't think we'll go after him, nor am I suggesting we should. However, it's worth a discussion.

Thanks for trying to shit all over it though. Good try.[/quote]
I agree completely!

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[quote=44ever;515791]I don't understand, why bother to reply if you feel it's a useless thread. Anytime Parcells involved it's BIG news. Unless your new to the NFL. Why don't you start a thread that everyone is interested in. Personally I thought it was a very interesting topic.[/quote]

I agree,I was going to post this if no one else had.Parcells is like the magic man of the nfl,I would welcome here in a heartbeat,that man knows how to run a team.All you Parcell haters can say whatever,Parcells over Vinny is a no brainer.Do I expect Snyder to do it if Parcells opts out? No,Vinny has naked pics of Snyder and Tom Cruise

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[quote=DarkKnight;515788]thank you, this is another useless thread. Sad, these days, any news is news.[/quote]

You're right, I forgot. Rather than starting this thread, I should have spent my time more wisely- like reading all the quality posts you've made around here over the past month or so... :doh:

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he would be an idiot not to opt out, and we would be idiots not to consider it. who would you rather have vinny or the tuna?

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I doubt we could lure him away. I thought one of the reasons he took the job was so he could retire in sunny FL. I thought he wanted to fish with Jimmy Johnson. LOL. He would be a major upgrade for us in the personell dept. not sure if he can pick personell for the WCO though. He definitly would get us better lineman on both sides of the ball.

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Whatever becomes of it, if anything. Don't want to see him in Dallas!!!!

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He definately isnt going back to Dallas

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The guy is a Hall of Fame quitter. No thanks!

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LOL................why is it that people think everyone wants to work for the Danny,.....no .....they....don't.:yeahright:lol:

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[quote=Giantone;516125]LOL................why is it that people think everyone wants to work for the Danny,.....no .....they....don't.:yeahright:lol:[/quote]

Oh I don't know, because this is a f'ing Redskins board? Why do these non-Redskins fans ask these stupid questions?

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[quote=Giantone;516125]LOL................why is it that people think everyone wants to work for the Danny,.....no .....they....don't.:yeahright:lol:[/quote]
Why is it that almost everyone who has commented on this thread hasn't taken the time to read the article or the original post?

Did I say Parcells wanted to come here? Did I say he should or will?

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[quote=GMScud;516156]Why is it that almost everyone who has commented on this thread hasn't taken the time to read the article or the original post?

Did I say Parcells wanted to come here? Did I say he should or will?[/quote]

Well a lot of ppl want Vinny out. LOL.

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[quote=Ruhskins;516159]Well a lot of ppl want Vinny out. LOL.[/quote]

Agreed. That was part of my argument when a few people suggested this topic wasn't thread worthy.

I'm disappointed. Rather than some intelligent discussion about Parcells' situation, this thread has fizzled into smart ass comments and people questioning my even bringing up the topic. Sigh.

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[quote=GMScud;515801]You're right, I forgot. Rather than starting this thread, I should have spent my time more wisely- like reading all the quality posts you've made around here over the past month or so... :doh:[/quote]

At least we all know who to PM here before we make a thread now.

Seriously DK, grow up, just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean that it's useless to discuss the possibility of. If you were that smart, you might be the GM.

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Apparently the Lions, Jets, Browns and Raiders are all interested in Parcells. It would be kind of cool to see him go to Detroit. Their fans deserve a winner for once.

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[quote=GMScud;516181]Apparently the Lions, Jets, Browns and Raiders are all interested in Parcells. It would be kind of cool to see him go to Detroit. Their fans deserve a winner for once.[/quote]

Laugh all you want but if Parcells goes to the Raiders or Browns either one of those teams would make the playoffs. Both teams have a lot of talent, the problem is the FO.

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[quote=Paintrain;515876]The guy is a Hall of Fame quitter. No thanks![/quote]
You don't hire him to stay for 10 years... you hire him to fix your shit

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The Danny loves the current arrangement, because he has some say in personnel matters. With Parcells, he would have to hand over all authority, and unfortunately that ain't happening.

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[quote=SouperMeister;516202]The Danny loves the current arrangement, because he has some say in personnel matters. With Parcells, he would have to hand over all authority, and unfortunately that ain't happening.[/quote]

Yeah, Lil' Danny tried that back in 2001 when he reluctantly handed the keys over to Marty Schottenheimer. That lasted about a year.

On draft day in the war room, Parcells wouldn't let Lil' Danny in the room.

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[quote=SouperMeister;516202]The Danny loves the current arrangement, because he has some say in personnel matters. With Parcells, he would have to hand over all authority, and unfortunately that ain't happening.[/quote]

Agreed. Czabe had an interesting idea today on the radio - the best thing for the skins would be for Danny to fire Cerrato and not hire a replacement. By getting rid of the "insulation" Danny would have full control like Jerry Jones.After a year or two, Danny would be forced to realize how horrible he was and learn to stay out of his GMs way.

Personally, i think even Cerrato would be a better GM if danny were not so involved. As a fan, i understand Dannys desire to be involved in things. If i were a billionaire, i'd buy the redskins and get as involved in this stuff as I could too... but its simply not his forte.

If parcells did come here, it would be nice though. Unlike Gibbs and Cerrato, he would have the balls to tell Danny to back the h--- off.

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[quote=GMScud;516156]Why is it that almost everyone who has commented on this thread hasn't taken the time to read the article or the original post?

Did I say Parcells wanted to come here? Did I say he should or will?[/quote]


That's why I was joking,if you read about Parcells deal he only deals with the owner and even then he has final say,did'nt work in Dallas or with the Jets but did in New England and in Miami.

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From Yahoo:

[I]Parcells has a history of being on the move, and he has held three jobs in the past two years. He quit coaching after the 2006 season with Dallas and was a TV network analyst in 2007. He spent four years with the Cowboys, three with the Jets and four with the Patriots.[/I]

So the man ain't scared of change.

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[quote=SouperMeister;516202]The Danny loves the current arrangement, because he has some say in personnel matters. With Parcells, he would have to hand over all authority, and unfortunately that ain't happening.[/quote]

Yes. Exactly. Pacellls or any serious GM professional will NEVER come to DC with the present arrangement. Nor will the Redskins consistently win with the present arrangement.

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[quote=GMScud;515783]Let's see:

1) Parcells is one of the best personnel guys in football, and has a serious financial motivation to walk away from his current situation

2) Our front office makes plenty of blunders and is under heavy criticism

3) Snyder has a lust for ridiculous, spontaneous offseason acquisitions

4) If Parcells was willing to work with Jerry Jones, why wouldn't he work with Snyder?

I don't think we'll go after him, nor am I suggesting we should. However, it's worth a discussion.

Thanks for trying to shit all over it though. Good try.[/quote]

What I meant was this:

1) Just because Parcells has a financial incentive to opt out doesn't mean he will. At this stage in their careers, these guys have made enough money. After all, he's got a decent financial incentive to stay, too.

2) The clause was put into his contract clearly because he had a working relationship with Huizenga. He asked for the out clause in case he ended up with an owner he couldn't work for. So far, we have no evidence that will be the case.

3) You damn well know Cerrato isn't going anywhere.

4) Parcells is into rebuilding projects. The Patriots, the Jets, the Cowboys, and now the Dolphins. He likes to take teams from the basement and turn them around. The Redskins are not his cup of tea, there's already a foundation in place here.

5) The 'Skins don't have the immediate cap space for him to make the changes to transform this into a Parcells type team. He'd need to acquire a strong NT for the 3-4, a copious amount of linebackers because he likes big ones and none of ours are big, etcetera etcetera.

This thread just serves to fuel rampant speculation started by examining one little out clause in his contract. There's no point in discussing it in the context of the Redskins if you know anything about Parcells' past.

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[quote=GMScud;516541]From Yahoo:

[I]Parcells has a history of being on the move, and he has held three jobs in the past two years. He quit coaching after the 2006 season with Dallas and was a TV network analyst in 2007. He spent four years with the Cowboys, three with the Jets and four with the Patriots.[/I]

So the man ain't scared of change.[/quote]

But he has never left a team after one year. He stays for 3 or 4 years and then departs after returning the team from the depths of despair to respectability.

He's been with the Dolphins one season, and based on what they accomplished this year it figures he'll want to see it through and get a chance to grab another ring.

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[quote=Schneed10;516780]But he has never left a team after one year. He stays for 3 or 4 years and then departs after returning the team from the depths of despair to respectability.

He's been with the Dolphins one season, and based on what they accomplished this year it figures he'll want to see it through and get a chance to grab another ring.[/quote]

I would say he's already returned Miami to respectability, but i think you're right about the likelihood of him staying in place to be part of another championship. On the other hand, what if Parcells looks for "projects" more than anything? We might be fun for him and jeez Danny would look bad keeping the unproven Vinny if the Big Tuna were up to the challenge.

(no I don't think anything will come of this either, but I don't know what else to do until we start rearranging the roster/staff)

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[quote=Schneed10;516779]What I meant was this:

1) Just because Parcells has a financial incentive to opt out doesn't mean he will. At this stage in their careers, these guys have made enough money. After all, he's got a decent financial incentive to stay, too.

2) The clause was put into his contract clearly because he had a working relationship with Huizenga. He asked for the out clause in case he ended up with an owner he couldn't work for. So far, we have no evidence that will be the case.

3) You damn well know Cerrato isn't going anywhere.

4) Parcells is into rebuilding projects. The Patriots, the Jets, the Cowboys, and now the Dolphins. He likes to take teams from the basement and turn them around. The Redskins are not his cup of tea, there's already a foundation in place here.

5) The 'Skins don't have the immediate cap space for him to make the changes to transform this into a Parcells type team. He'd need to acquire a strong NT for the 3-4, a copious amount of linebackers because he likes big ones and none of ours are big, etcetera etcetera.

This thread just serves to fuel rampant speculation started by examining one little out clause in his contract. There's no point in discussing it in the context of the Redskins if you know anything about Parcells' past.[/quote]

Fair points, however I stand by my thinking that it is worth a discussion. I wouldn't say anything that's been mentioned here since this thread was started would fit the label of "rampant speculation."

No offense, but whether or not it's "worth" a discussion really isn't your call. If you don't think it is, feel free not to discuss it. A big chunk of this site is based on "what ifs" and speculation.

Again, I personally never said I expect him to opt out of his contract, nor did I say I think we should or will obtain his services. I just said financially it would be a smart move.

I agree that there's an overwhelming chance he won't end up here or anywhere else but Miami next year. But he [I]could[/I] leave Miami if he wanted, and nothing is out of bounds with Danny. So I started a thread.

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[quote=GMScud;516786]Fair points, however I stand by my thinking that it is worth a discussion. I wouldn't say anything that's been mentioned here since this thread was started would fit the label of "rampant speculation."

No offense, but whether or not it's "worth" a discussion really isn't your call. If you don't think it is, feel free not to discuss it. A big chunk of this site is based on "what ifs" and speculation.

Again, I personally never said I expect him to opt out of his contract, nor did I say I think we should or will obtain his services. I just said financially it would be a smart move.

I agree that there's an overwhelming chance he won't end up here or anywhere else but Miami next year. But he [I]could[/I] leave Miami if he wanted, and nothing is out of bounds with Danny. So I started a thread.[/quote]

While I don't intend to perpetuate a debate over whether this thread was worth starting or not, because that would be hella lame, let me just say that by no means do I think it's "my call" to deem threads unworthy.

However I've got a right to my opinion, and I like to think the Warpath is a little better than the numerous boards out there that so often fan the flames of unfounded rumors. You're well within your right to start threads like this, I just happen to think I'm doing a board a service by coming along and giving my educated opinion as to why it's pointless to discuss.

No biggie.

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[quote=Schneed10;516791]While I don't intend to perpetuate a debate over whether this thread was worth starting or not, because that would be hella lame, let me just say that by no means do I think it's "my call" to deem threads unworthy.

However I've got a right to my opinion, and I like to think the Warpath is a little better than the numerous boards out there that so often fan the flames of unfounded rumors. You're well within your right to start threads like this, I just happen to think I'm doing a board a service by coming along and giving my educated opinion as to why it's pointless to discuss.

No biggie.[/quote]

It's all good.

It certainly wasn't my intention to dumb down the site by posting a mindless thread. But for the record, did I post anything that was an "unfounded rumor?" I simply pointed out the fact that he had the opt-out clause, and maybe opened the door to entertain some speculation. Who we draft, who gets fired, who's a free agent, who will be offered the dreaded "vet min..." It's all part of this board, and all speculation, often times based on nothing but thin air.

Anyway, I don't want to beat a dead horse. At this point I fully expect this thread to slowly fade down the front page and slip off into oblivion.

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oh my god,

BILL PARCELLS???

DAN, SNYDER, mr SNYDER, i hope your listening or reading this.

PLEASE, PLEASE, do anything to bring the TUNA here. the nfc east foe, oh my (this is the sign), read the redskins history, learn something from Sam Huff trade. and your own past mistakes.

THE TUNA, is the greatest coach/GM there is then NFL history.
he = jerry west.

as much as i loved Gibbs, esp. during 82-92, the man was 2nd only to Vince Lombardi, and now i have to admit, the the Lombardi trohpy should be renamed to the Parcells/Tuna trophy. Not only he had Gibbs number but he is the only proven success there is. either he can bring you playoffs but built the team to be a competitor and SB bound.

HE IS THE GREATEST, (people read, do a little research, HISTORY)