2009 Draft Slot & Schedule Secured
 

Ok... so here it is....

* We will be selecting 14th overall in the 1st round.

* We will only have 1st, 3rd, 5th, & 6th round picks.

* Here's our scheduled opponents:

[B]Home[/B]: Dallas, Philadelphia, NYG, Saints, Buccaneers, Broncos, Chiefs, Rams

[B]Away[/B]: Dallas, Philadelphia, NYG, Falcons, Panthers, Raiders, Chargers, Lions

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;516111]Ok... so here it is....

* We will be selecting 14th overall in the 1st round.

* We will only have 1st, 3rd, 5th, & 6th, round picks.

* Here's our scheduled opponents:

[B]Home[/B]: Dallas, Philadelphia, NYG, Saints, Buccaneers, Broncos, Chiefs, Rams

[B]Away[/B]: Dallas, Philadelphia, NYG, Falcons, Panthers, Raiders, Chargers, Lions[/quote]

I hope we don't screw up with that 14th pick. We should be able to get a nice player at 14th. I wonder if we can trade someone for some later round picks.

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I personally think they'd be best off trading back for sure...

you just NEVER know with the 1st round picks.. boom or bust...

that's why the more picks the better...

If they get a "stud" OT or DT... it'll all be on him (the pressure to be an impact) because we won't pick again til the 3rd round.

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;516127]I personally think they'd be best off trading back for sure...

you just NEVER know with the 1st round picks.. boom or bust...

that's why the more picks the better...

If they get a "stud" OT or DT... it'll all be on him (the pressure to be an impact) because we won't pick again til the 3rd round.[/quote]

So hopefully trade it for a low 1st round and a 3rd or 4th round pick? or a 2nd and 4th? I guess it'd depend on the players available.

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[quote=Ruhskins;516129]So hopefully trade it for a low 1st round and a 3rd or 4th round pick? or a 2nd and 4th? I guess it'd depend on the players available.[/quote]

I REALLY do think that'd be the best strategy as good O-Linemen are awlays still available in the 3rd/4th rounds

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Trade the first one away for a pick in the second and in the 3rd.

Schedule looks pretty good, not thrilled about having to go out west twice but what can ya do?!

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id like to actually keep this pick and use it for a top tier talent. the "experts" seem to think there are 3 stud OTs this year and maybe at 14 one of them might still be around. if not O line maybe a play-making d lineman.

hurts not having that 2nd rounder thoo. either way we should only get better after the draft.

so is this draft considered deep in any particular position? seems like there is a good 10-15 solid O lineman this year but i dont follow college ball as much.

go skins!!

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;516151][B]Trade the first one away for a pick in the second and in the 3rd[/B].

Schedule looks pretty good, not thrilled about having to go out west twice but what can ya do?![/quote]I would not trade #14 overall for just a 2nd and a 3rd. I would accept no less than two 2nd rounders in 2009. Philly and New England are notorious for trading out of the first round for a 2nd PLUS a 1st in the following year's draft. Philly did that again last year, giving them two 1st rounders for 2009.

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the top 3 OTs could be gone in the top 10

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what about that tackle from Virginia? is he expected to be top 10? if not, there is our pick

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I thought we ended up with the 13th overall pick.

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Trade it along with Betts and Randle El, stock up on picks spend them on both lines and a backup RB...or pick at 14, maybe get a keeper down the line in the draft and take your chances.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;516254]I thought we ended up with the 13th overall pick.[/quote]That's what I thought I read on RI too.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;516257]Trade it along with Betts and Randle El, stock up on picks spend them on both lines and a backup RB...or pick at 14, maybe get a keeper down the line in the draft and take your chances.[/quote]

Randle El isn't terribly productive, has a high cap figure, and will be 30 years old by the time next season starts. If you are a GM for another team, what kind of draft pick would you trade for him? Ladell Betts will also be 30 years old by the time next season starts and good running backs can be found late in the draft. So, I would be stunned if we managed to get anything better than a 5th round pick for either player and we'd be lucky to get that much.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;516263]Randle El isn't terribly productive, has a high cap figure, and will be 30 years old by the time next season starts. If you are a GM for another team, what kind of draft pick would you trade for him? Ladell Betts will also be 30 years old by the time next season starts and good running backs can be found late in the draft. So, I would be stunned if we managed to get anything better than a 5th round pick for either player and we'd be lucky to get that much.[/quote]

^^Great point
I definitely think The skins should still make that move, put the onus on thomas, kelly, or davis to show up next season. i hope they have the maturity to realize they were complete busts this season and they need to really pick up the pace next season. Definitely, definitely trade the first rounder to get more picks because the Skins do not draft well (Sean taylor is the only one who comes to mind who was a stud - Rogers is still a work in progress) in the first round. Pick up o linemen and d linemen because griffin is getting old, gholston is not a suitable backup, jansen is finished, samuels is showing his age. I think the trench units will be in serious trouble next season if they are not shored up.

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does anyone trust dannyboy and vinny selection processes for the 2009 nfl draft?

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;516127]I personally think they'd be best off trading back for sure...

you just NEVER know with the 1st round picks.. boom or bust...
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OH MAN, that's what I thought last year when we ended up with a couple 2nd rounders....then they spent them on redundant WR and TEs that have shown zero....how the hell do you go 0-3 with 2nd rounders....
Sorry for venting....but any talk of our draft picks right now leaves me uninspired to say the least....how hard is it to draft Dlinemen? LBs? Olinemen worth a crap?

Will our FO ever learn or do we have to hope for a complete collapse so we can hope for Parcells to come in for 1 year and fix it?

Everyone said....awesome...10 picks...they finally get it....then they screw em all up but get lucky with Horton as a 4th safety....they turn around and trade a 2nd and 6th away for a very old Jason Taylor....I was even ok with it at the time...but boy....the FO moves last season sure look crappy now.
I hold very little hope for offseason moves this year...I completely expect the Skins to do something splashy to screw us for years to come.

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Yes according to NFL.com the 'Skins do draft #13 overall not #14. We need a big pickup with this pick on either line this year!!

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[quote=dmek25;516249]what about that tackle from Virginia? is he expected to be top 10? if not, there is our pick[/quote]

Eugene Monroe would be a good pick for us. I think he's projected top 10 but you never know how the draft will go.

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[quote=skinsfan1987;516389]does anyone trust dannyboy and vinny selection processes for the 2009 nfl draft?[/quote]

Not really, cus Vinny says things like, "It's bad to just draft a need, you have to take best available..."

That's horse crap. If the best available player is a tight end, than why take a tight end when you have Chris Cooley and you just drafted Fred Davis.

Why not combine the two philosophies and take bet available of the needs you have!

Take the best available OL with our first pick, or trade it for more.

Last year we had a pick somehwere in the 20's and got two second rounders for it, so I think a 13th pick could get us more than that.

I woould like to keep the pick, and find someway to get more picks through a trade. Find some idiot to take Randle El for a 4th rounder.

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Rey Maluauga LB USC

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I don't think we should trade down. Hopefully, one of those stud OTs will drop to us at 13, which is highly likely. Michael Oher, I've been waiting for you. Otherwise, there will still be some great, potential star talent at 13. The aforementioned Rey Maluauga LB USC, Taylor Mays S USC, Vontae Davis CB ILL, Brian Orakpo DE TX, and BJ Raji DT BC. #13 is a pretty high pick that we should try to cash in with.

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[quote=Soup's Uncle;516502]Not really, cus Vinny says things like, "It's bad to just draft a need, you have to take best available..."

That's horse crap. If the best available player is a tight end, than why take a tight end when you have Chris Cooley and you just drafted Fred Davis.

Why not combine the two philosophies and take bet available of the needs you have!

Take the best available OL with our first pick, or trade it for more.

Last year we had a pick somehwere in the 20's and got two second rounders for it, so I think a 13th pick could get us more than that.

I woould like to keep the pick, and find someway to get more picks through a trade. Find some idiot to take Randle El for a 4th rounder.[/quote]

Yeah, I think you have to be a good judge of talent. You can take the best available and ignore your needs if the guy is really worth it and can be a game changer. You shouldn't be bound by your needs, but I don't think always taking the "best available" is a good strategy. And how was Justin Tryon the best available player when the Skins chose him?

Oh, and Philip Merling, who VC claimed wasn't panning out for the Phins, had a pretty big play in that Jets game.

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if there is no change in the front office such as Vinny gets fired and hiring a new GM, this team will be 5-11 next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!