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SmootSmack 01-22-2009 12:48 PM

If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
Suppose we made absolutely no moves prior to draft day, no free-agent signings (other than maybe some camp bodies), and no trades for more draft picks this year.

If we assume the above, that leaves us with a 1st, 3th, 5th, and 6th round pick.

So with all that in mind, give me your mock draft as of today(this is who you would want the Skins to use their picks on)

I'll start (I wanted to get Connor Barwin in here, but just couldn't find a spot for him)

1st-OT: Best Available and that probably means Michael Oher at this point, but I'm becoming a big Eben Britton fan and I'd be tempted to take him

3rd-C: Antoine Caldwell (looking more unlikely he'll be around, but someone like Luigs could fall down there)

5th-DE/LB: Lawrence Sidbury (out of Richmond, could be a steal)

6th-um....some running back

KLHJ2 01-22-2009 01:19 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
I have not finished my scouting yet so I will not be naming names.

1. OT

3. DT or DE (Best available of the 2 positions)

5. LB or OL (Best available of the 2 positions)

6. LB or OL or RB (Best available of the 3 positions and will not take same position as drafted in 5th)

Dirtbag59 01-22-2009 01:20 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
1st Round - Michael Oher - T - Ole Miss
3rd Round -
[I][SIZE=1]1st choice[/SIZE][/I] - Johnathan Luigs - C - Arkansas
[I][SIZE=1]2nd choice[/SIZE][/I] - Herman Johnson - G - LSU
[SIZE=1][I]3rd choice[/I][/SIZE] - Antoine Caldwell - C - Alabama
5th Round - Vance Walker - DT - Georgia Tech (collapses the pocket, stops the run, and plays with a high motor. However he lacks size and instincts)
6th Round - Zach Follet - LB - Cal (Not sure if he'll last this long but hey last year we thought Erin Henderson was going to be a 2nd or 3rd round pick and right now Follet is graded as a fringe 5th round pick)
[B]
My Nightmare Draft[/B]

1st Round - Percy Harvin - RB/WR - Florida ("He was easily the best player on our board and when you draft for need you get in trouble")
2nd Round - Alphonso Smith - CB - Wake Forest ("Well we thought trading next years 2nd and 3rd along with Carlos Rogers, as well as a fifth rounder next year was a good idea because we knew that this guy was high on our board. Plus this year we're not going to make the character mistake we made with Thomas and Davis last year")
3rd Round - Darry Beckwith - ILB - LSU ("Well we saw how well our division rival Dallas did with Brady James and Beck was definitely the best player on our board so we went for it")
5th Round - Maurice Wells - RB - Ohio State ("We wanted a big play threat at RB and we felt like Maurice was it. I mean sure most scouts had him going undrafted but he stuck out on our board like a sore thumb.")
6th Round - Grahm Harrell - QB - Texas Tech (" Did you see how many yards he threw for last year? Pair him with Colt and our fanbase will be thrown into civil war over who are 2nd string QB should be. We're excited about what Jim can do with him.")

Follow up comments from Vinny:
"We tried to trade back up into the first to get Brian Cushing but we couldn't find anyone who wanted Santana Moss, Jon Jansen, Cornelius Griffin, Shawn Springs, Marcus Washington, and Carlos Rogers in exchange for a first round pick."

"We would have gone O-Line but no one really stood out on our board, besides this wasn't a good year for O-lineman."

"Hey at least I didn't take any recievers.....or did I?"

"Percy Harvin is going to be the next Reggie Bush."

"I'm really excited about what the other Well's brings to the table.

"I tried to trade back but for some reason the phone line went dead."

ChickenMonkey 01-22-2009 01:22 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
1st BJ Radji DT
[COLOR=darkred]3rd Fenuki Tupou OT 6'6 330 Oregon[/COLOR]
5th Zack Follett OLB
6th Robert Ayers DE

FA.... RT,LG resign D.Hall (Cut) J.Taylor, S. Springs,R.Boshettie, J.Thrash,P.Kendall

SFREDSKIN 01-22-2009 01:23 PM

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1st Alex Mack (he would change the OL woes overnight, yep a C on the 1st, just ask Jahvid Best how he got 1580 yards rushing))
3rd Zack Follett (the man is a playmaker)
5th DE
6th LB or DT (best available player)

Eknox 01-22-2009 01:25 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
O and D lines point blank....nothing else

SouperMeister 01-22-2009 01:26 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=Eknox;522185]O and D lines point blank....nothing else[/quote]AMEN, Brother!!!

GMScud 01-22-2009 01:27 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
If we don't draft the best tackle available with our 1st pick, I will be turning off the TV and not watching the remainder of the draft.

KLHJ2 01-22-2009 01:30 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=GMScud;522187]If we don't draft the best tackle available with our 1st pick, I will be turning off the TV and not watching the remainder of the draft.[/quote]

I will be seeing you at Union Jack's that day then! LOL!!!

Eknox 01-22-2009 01:31 PM

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although I'm a big fan of Rey Maualuga... He's a beast like Polumalu even though he play's LB instead of safety...[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owXgLCbw5YU]YouTube - Introducing Rey Maualuga[/url]

GMScud 01-22-2009 01:34 PM

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[quote=Angry;522189]I will be seeing you at Union Jack's that day then! LOL!!![/quote]

Sold! I'll see you there!

You ever go there on NFL Sundays? The Eagles fans in that place are so effing obnoxious (shocker).

Daseal 01-22-2009 01:40 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
Easy. Best available player. We have a lot of holes. Just make sure it's an NFL type guy, not a college phenom like Reggie Bush.

OT, DT, LB, OG, K are my 5 most important positions right now.

Meks 01-22-2009 01:48 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
1st - best guard
2nd - please trade for a pick - best de
3rd - best center
5th - florida states kicker
6th - LB

KLHJ2 01-22-2009 01:51 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=GMScud;522192]Sold! I'll see you there!

You ever go there on NFL Sundays? The Eagles fans in that place are so effing obnoxious (shocker).[/quote]

Nope, I'm usually in there on Friday or Saturday night. Not that often though.

MTK 01-22-2009 01:52 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
Best available O-lineman or LB. I don't know any names yet, I won't start studying up until the combine.

RMSkins 01-22-2009 02:32 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
Obviously, this will change depending on FA and Cuts but if the draft were to be held tomorrow here's what I would like to see:

1st Round: OT Michael Oher Ole Miss

3rd Round: OLB Tyrone McKenzie USF

5th Round: DT Vance Walker GT

6th Round: OG Ray Feinga BYU

Meks 01-22-2009 02:34 PM

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seriously, get Florida States Kicker please.

RMSkins 01-22-2009 03:07 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;522182]1st Alex Mack (he would change the OL woes overnight, yep a C on the 1st, just ask Jahvid Best how he got 1580 yards rushing))
3rd Zack Follett (the man is a playmaker)
5th DE
6th LB or DT (best available player)[/quote]
Sounds like someone is a CAL Bears fan. I like Mack but he would be a HUGE reach at #13 considering he's projected as a fringe 1st rounder. Follett would also be a pretty big reach in the 3rd as he's projected as a 4th or 5th rounder.

GTripp0012 01-22-2009 03:30 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
Jason Smith at No. 13.

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-22-2009 03:49 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
DE Brian Okapo in the 1st
G Herman Johnson in the 3rd

WaldSkins 01-22-2009 03:55 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
1st. Michael Oher
3rd. Antoine Caldwell if he's there, if not Follet
5th. Deion Butler from PSU( he would be our new slot receiver when we eventually cut El)
6th. Kicker from FSU.

Bonus Pick: I think we trade something from next years picks to move into the second round to select Alex Mack.

Whiteboi_J 01-22-2009 04:02 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;522235]DE Brian Okapo in the 1st
G Herman Johnson in the 3rd[/quote]

Orakapo is garbage, he has 1st round bust written [B]ALL[/B] over him

Also if Oher drops to us, there is probably a reason, so I might pass on him

I would say draft a project/gamble WR in 6th, moss and randel el aren't goin' anywhere, and we got kelly and thomas

1. Either one of the top 4 OTs or BJ Raji or Everette Brown

3. Best interior lineman, preferably center.

5. OLB Fowlett if he's there, if not, then best available OL

6. Best available OL, DB, or WR

don't bash on me for the WR, think of a Marques Colston...just another big WR from a smaller school, give him a chance cause we still don't know if either Thomas or Kelly will become anything, but my money is on Kelly, he seems like the light bulb turned on at the bye week, sayin' this ain't no joke and u really gonna have to work

MiraclesHappen07 01-22-2009 04:39 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
Hmmm here who i would like to see in skins uni

1st Round: BJ Raji-DL-Bc-Dude has a highmotor, from seeing some vids of him he has good strength and leveragge

3rd Round: Larry English-DL-NIU-a 254 pounder who can be an De or an OLB in outside rushing schemes, BUt what impresses me the most of this guy is his quickness of the edge, and the leverage he uses to get the Qb, also i heard he looks a lot like Demarcous Ware

5th Round: Andre Caldwell(if he still around) C/G-Albama-like him cuz he is big and powerful and has the capability to switch between Center and Leftguard

6th Round: dont know yet, lol

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-22-2009 05:02 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=Whiteboi_J;522246][B]Orakapo is garbage, he has 1st round bust written ALL over him[/B]

Also if Oher drops to us, there is probably a reason, so I might pass on him

I would say draft a project/gamble WR in 6th, moss and randel el aren't goin' anywhere, and we got kelly and thomas

1. Either one of the top 4 OTs or BJ Raji or Everette Brown

3. Best interior lineman, preferably center.

5. OLB Fowlett if he's there, if not, then best available OL

6. Best available OL, DB, or WR

don't bash on me for the WR, think of a Marques Colston...just another big WR from a smaller school, give him a chance cause we still don't know if either Thomas or Kelly will become anything, but my money is on Kelly, he seems like the light bulb turned on at the bye week, sayin' this ain't no joke and u really gonna have to work[/quote]


Thats ur opinion i guess

WaldSkins 01-22-2009 05:19 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=Whiteboi_J;522246][B]Orakapo is garbage, he has 1st round bust written [B]ALL[/B] over him
[/B]
Also if Oher drops to us, there is probably a reason, so I might pass on him

I would say draft a project/gamble WR in 6th, moss and randel el aren't goin' anywhere, and we got kelly and thomas

1. Either one of the top 4 OTs or BJ Raji or Everette Brown

3. Best interior lineman, preferably center.

5. OLB Fowlett if he's there, if not, then best available OL

6. Best available OL, DB, or WR

don't bash on me for the WR, think of a Marques Colston...just another big WR from a smaller school, give him a chance cause we still don't know if either Thomas or Kelly will become anything, but my money is on Kelly, he seems like the light bulb turned on at the bye week, sayin' this ain't no joke and u really gonna have to work[/quote]

Explain why you think he is going to be a bust??

freddyg12 01-22-2009 05:28 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=Whiteboi_J;522246]Orakapo is garbage, he has 1st round bust written [B]ALL[/B] over him

Also if Oher drops to us, there is probably a reason, so I might pass on him

I would say draft a project/gamble WR in 6th, moss and randel el aren't goin' anywhere, and we got kelly and thomas

1. Either one of the top 4 OTs or BJ Raji or Everette Brown

3. Best interior lineman, preferably center.

5. OLB Fowlett if he's there, if not, then best available OL

6. Best available OL, DB, or WR

don't bash on me for the WR, think of a Marques Colston...just another big WR from a smaller school, give him a chance cause we still don't know if either Thomas or Kelly will become anything, but my money is on Kelly, he seems like the light bulb turned on at the bye week, sayin' this ain't no joke and u really gonna have to work[/quote]

What he said. I watched Oher's last game, the bowl game v. T. Tech. He is good but got beat on a couple plays where it looked like he was just slow to get off the ball. Scouting report is that he's inconsistent, has lapses of concentration. Definitely not a high prob. pick at 13.

Everette Brown is a dude that intrigues me a lot. Ideally I'd rather see an OT as they're less bust potential, but Brown is a smart guy & great athlete. He's coming out early & already has his degree. He sounds like a guy that is ready to work & respects the game enough to know he has to.

If we go DE w/the 13th pick, I say Everette Brown out of that terrible seminole school.

GTripp0012 01-22-2009 05:46 PM

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Brian Orakpo = Andre Carter - 7 years age and experience

So, well worth a first round pick.

Ruhskins 01-22-2009 06:34 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
I said this in another thread, but Oher, Cushing, and Mack appeared late in the first round in Mel Kiper's latest mock draft. Does anybody know what their projections are in other mock drafts? If they are being projected late in the first round, we should consider trading down (I know that's not what the thread asked).

Whiteboi_J 01-22-2009 06:47 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=WaldSkins;522303]Explain why you think he is going to be a bust??[/quote]

All he had to do at Texas was bull rush straight up the field and get to the QB....no gap control what so ever. Plus the bull rush don't work every play, especially against elite OTs in the nfl, he's a 1 trick pony that's worth a 2nd round pick to groom...he is not a guy that has a chance at having an impact as a rookie, which is wat the skins need.

but like it was said, that is jus my opinion.

Whiteboi_J 01-22-2009 06:49 PM

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plus u see any of the UT/OSU bowl game? Orakpo got COMPLETELY shut down against a mediocre OSU OL

53Fan 01-22-2009 09:12 PM

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All this is subject to change, but from what I know at this point: 1- Alex Mack-Center- Cal. Yeah, he would be worth #13 to me. 3-Fenuki Tupou-OT-Oregon. Have him play RT or Guard. If he's gone, Conner Barwin-DE-Cinn. Can play DE or LB. Would love to get Ziggy Hood with this pick but he'll be gone. 5-Zack Follett-LB-Cal. If he's gone, Ron Brace-DT-BC 6- Any of the above still left or BPA

TheSmurfs22 01-22-2009 09:38 PM

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I would ask Colt Brennan to see if he could be redrafted and just draft him again just to make all of those CB fans out there happy once again. In fact I want a whole team full of Colt Brennans!HAHA

The Goat 01-22-2009 09:39 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[B]1st-OT: Best Available and that probably means Michael Oher at this point, but I'm becoming a big Eben Britton fan and I'd be tempted to take him

3rd-C: Antoine Caldwell (looking more unlikely he'll be around, but someone like Luigs could fall down there)

5th-DE/LB: Lawrence Sidbury (out of Richmond, could be a steal)

6th-um....some running back[/B]

Ditto.

MiraclesHappen07 01-22-2009 10:53 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=The Goat;522370][B]1st-OT: Best Available and that probably means Michael Oher at this point, but I'm becoming a big Eben Britton fan and I'd be tempted to take him

3rd-C: Antoine Caldwell (looking more unlikely he'll be around, but someone like Luigs could fall down there)

5th-DE/LB: Lawrence Sidbury (out of Richmond, could be a steal)

6th-um....some running back[/B]

Ditto.[/quote]

I like Sidbury i agree he could be a steal, but also look at Larry English out of NIU. Ive watched some senior bowl vids, and he appears to be a sleeper. He showed good speed and leverage coming off the edge.

30gut 01-22-2009 11:19 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
[quote=SmootSmack;522172]
1st-OT: Best Available and that probably means Michael Oher at this point, but I'm becoming a big Eben Britton fan and I'd be tempted to take him
3rd-C: Antoine Caldwell (looking more unlikely he'll be around, but someone like Luigs could fall down there)
5th-DE/LB: Lawrence Sidbury (out of Richmond, could be a steal)
6th-um....some running back[/quote]

[B]1st[/B]-By some stroke of luck: [B]Aaron Curry (LB)/BJ Raji (DT)/ DE Brian Orakpo[/B]
more realistic [B]Rey Maulauaga (LB)/James
Laurinitis[/B]
RB Knowshon Moreno / C Alex Mack

[B]3rd[/B] C Antoine Caldwell/C Eric Wood
OLB Marcus Freeman/OLB Clay Matthews
RB Rashad Jennings/ RB Javon Ringer
DE Phillip Hunt
BPA Offensive Line
[B]5th[/B] (BPA) -OLB Kaluka Maiava/ OT Robert Brewster /C Dallas Reynolds (328lbs)
[B]6th[/B] (BPA)-CB Wopamo Osaisai/ CB/KR Brice McCain /FB(Pass)Mark Hafner

53Fan 01-23-2009 01:55 AM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
Sidbury and English could go undrafted. If so, we should sign them both right away as UDFA's.

LandrySlice 01-23-2009 01:58 AM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
Since many of you are talking about Marcus Washington or Griffin being removed I would like to get my hands on 1. BJ RAJI or Malinuga/Cushing (I don't like to try and convert players to differen't positions so thats why I list Cushing). After that, I have no clue!!

Daseal 01-23-2009 10:03 AM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
According to Pete Carrol (sp?) Cushing's natural position is ILB.

Eknox 01-23-2009 11:41 AM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
I just watched some highlights of BJ Raji, and I have to say Smootsmack got it right,this guy is massive, wide bodied and can penetrate the oline to cause mayhem on the offense,.. I see why he's high on a few peoples lists, but let's all remember Vinny will make the call so it could end up being somone projected in the 4th round going with our first pick..what a dumbass..

ChickenMonkey 01-23-2009 01:16 PM

Re: If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft
 
Ok guys, changed my mind allready, I saw this video of Everette Brown and WOW
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXJJ14HL5EE]YouTube - FSU DE Everette Brown Highlights[/url]

1st Everette Brown DE
3rd Fenuki Tupou OT
5th Zack Follett OLB
6th Cory Irvin DT

FA OT Khalif Barnes Jaguars ***immediate starter

Cut..Springs,Taylor Free up 16 million salary cap space ....keep washington & griffin till next year..........


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