Do You Think We'll Trade Down In The Draft?
 

There are just too many players who fit our needs who will grade out as 1st Rounders. Any of these players could be available when we pick:

OT - Andre Smith, Michael Oher
DT - B.J. Raji, Peria Jerry
LB - Brian Cushing, Rey Maualuga

Personally, I love the idea of having OG Duke Robinson on our team but I doubt that we'd draft him at #13.

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With so many players available, it's not impossible to think we could trade down and still get at least one of those guys

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My personal oppinion...."if" we get Haynesworth, they let Evans go for Canty and find a way to keep Taylor and Hall......I'm betting they use the #13 pick on an OL. If they are able to keep and upgrade our defense in FA then I would almost guarentee they pick the best OL or trade down to get an extra pick but use both on OL. Why not at that point your defense is already set for the most part and we would be in major need of OL.

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[quote=SmootSmack;529796]With so many players available, it's not impossible to think we could trade down and still get at least one of those guys[/quote]

Maybe. But how far down would we be willing to go to pick up perhaps a 3rd Rounder? I doubt that we'd trade into the 2nd Round.

I know I wouldn't trade down if either B.J. Raji or Andre Smith were there at #13.

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Poor thread title. It made me think Cerrato came out and said something about our draft plans, instead I'm presented with a user's opinion. :madani:

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I had the same thought Schneed. I'll change it

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[quote=Schneed10;529800]Poor thread title. It made me think Cerrato came out and said something about our draft plans, instead I'm presented with a user's opinion. :madani:[/quote]

Can we have an orientation for newbies...I don't know maybe a few powerpoint slides explaining the process of creating a thread. Maybe a quick look at threads that have been locked and why. LOL.

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[quote=Schneed10;529800]Poor thread title. It made me think Cerrato came out and said something about our draft plans, instead I'm presented with a user's opinion. :madani:[/quote]

Agreed, very let down by content here. But...we should trade first for a 2nd and 3rd or 4th rounder if possible. We only have four picks.

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[quote=SBXVII;529798]My personal oppinion...."if" we get Haynesworth, they let Evans go for Canty and find a way to keep Taylor and Hall......I'm betting they use the #13 pick on an OL. If they are able to keep and upgrade our defense in FA then I would almost guarentee they pick the best OL or trade down to get an extra pick but use both on OL. Why not at that point your defense is already set for the most part and we would be in major need of OL.[/quote]

Well, I wasn't considering FA when I started this thread. So, I guess I was assuming that JT stays at DE and that we don't sign Haynesworth.

Nevertheless, you make some good points. Canty would be a nice solution at LDE. Then JT could play a hybrid LB/DE position and freelance more. Add Haynesworth to that and we could have a great Defense, although I don't know how we could sign Haynesworth while paying JT $8.5M.

Then, as you stated, if a top OL (hopefully, a RT) were available at #13 we'd take him. Otherwise trade down and load up on OL prospects.

Now, are you willing to take personal responsibility for signing Haynesworth and Canty?

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[quote=SmootSmack;529801]I had the same thought Schneed. I'll change it[/quote]

Thank you for changing my thread title. Hopefully, with medication and counseling, some members wil be able to get over it.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;529808]Thank you for changing my thread title. Hopefully, with medication and counseling, some members wil be able to get over it.[/quote]

that's doubtful, poor thread titles are like taxes!!

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:goodjob:[quote=freddyg12;529809]that's doubtful, poor thread titles are like taxes!![/quote]

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[quote=freddyg12;529809]that's doubtful, poor thread titles are like taxes!![/quote]

They don't have to be if we hold ourselves to a higher standard. We are not ES.

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I really hope so.

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If the redskins FO has any real buisness sense, we will trade down no furthter than #20
and add a 2nd and possible 4th rounder...BTW OG, or OT would be a perfect choice at 20
aka Alex Mack, Jamon Meredith....Dont be surprised if Andre Smith is still around at #20

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I wonder what teams have given up in the past trading up to get the 13th overall pick in the draft. Obviously a lot of variables are involved (team need, players available, depth of position in that particular draft, etc.). I'm just curious how much you guys think we could get in return for the 13th pick. I apologize I'm asking a question and not replying with an opinion. I've just been curious to know how much we could help ourselves by trading down.

HAIL!

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;529825]If the redskins FO has any real buisness sense, we will trade down no furthter than #20
and add a 2nd and possible 4th rounder...BTW OG, or OT would be a perfect choice at 20
aka Alex Mack, Jamon Meredith....Dont be surprised if Andre Smith is still around at #20[/quote]

If Mack and Andre Smith are available at #20, I would go with Mack as the sure pick. Andre Smith is immature and a gamble at #20.

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I think that they shoud definetly trade down if they can get a late first and early to mid second round pick. I would rather have two quality picks than one high value pick.

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If we sign Haynesworth, i dont see us having the cap space to keep Taylor OR pay sign a lineman with the 13th pick. I think we would try as hard as we could to trade down. With so many good players likely to be available, and with this draft sorely lacking in depth (ive read alot of 3rd and 4th round talent will go in the 2nd), it should be easy to find a trading partner.

Hopefully, we dont trade too far down. I think its imperative that we draft a 1st round quality OT in the 1st round... i wouldnt pick Duke Robinson above 25 though. his stock has been falling dramatically. I also think guard isnt that vital of a position for us if Jansen can move there. We really need to draft an OT with our first pick. AFter that, id look at center, guard, and LB with picks we have/acquire in rounds 2-5.

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I think that trading down for an OT later in the first would be a good move, but has anyone thought about grabbing a backup RB with the 2nd round pick we'd pick up, although it wasn't a very impressive group at the combine maybe a Shonn Greene would be a nice pickup, after all we don't exactly look scary at tailback..

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[quote=Eknox;529843]I think that trading down for an OT later in the first would be a good move, but has anyone thought about grabbing a backup RB with the 2nd round pick we'd pick up, although it wasn't a very impressive group at the combine maybe a Shonn Greene would be a nice pickup, after all we don't exactly look scary at tailback..[/quote]


I would be interested if there was a good quality back avaliable. However what would you do with Rock and Ladell. If you get a back in the 2nd round, he's gotta be an immediate impact player either as starter or the third down back, or possibly split carries with Portis. Would you trade Ladell?

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[quote=REDSKIN1;529845]I would be interested if there was a good quality back avaliable. However what would you do with Rock and Ladell. If you get a back in the 2nd round, he's gotta be an immediate impact player either as starter or the third down back, or possibly split carries with Portis. Would you trade Ladell?[/quote]

Well to be honest what has Lavelle done for us lately(nothing) but take up a roster spot we need someone hungry in he backup spot, he seems content, and doesn't fight hard for the extra yards, can't break away for the long run, so I'd let Betts go, at least Rock is good on special teams...(sorry for getting off topic mod's)

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[quote=Schneed10;529816]They don't have to be if we hold ourselves to a higher standard. We are not ES.[/quote]

Oh come on can't we lower our standard for one day. Think of all the quality discussion.

- Will Haynesworth help our backup DE's get more sacks?
- SAY NO TO HAYNESWORTH
- Say yes to HAYNESWORth
- why Zron shuld run da wildcat
- I wun run wildkat nxt yr
- GUYS CALM DOWN
- Why BPA alwasy works
- We hsould take Crabtree
- Yo dawg can you imagine an o wit Davis, Kelly, Moss, Thomas, Cooley, Portis, n Crabtree. Dat b sick yo.
- Jason Campbell bashers EXPLAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
- So wat do you guys think We Should Do In The Draft
- My Draft strategy
- Crabtree Yo
- Start Colt NAO
- I have an idea
- No
- Yes
- Ci
- Hola
- Que

The possibilities are endless.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;529850]Oh come on can't we lower our standard for one day. Think of all the quality discussion.

- Will Haynesworth help our backup DE's get more sacks?
- SAY NO TO HAYNESWORTH
- Say yes to HAYNESWORth
- why Zron shuld run da wildcat
- I wun run wildkat nxt yr
- GUYS CALM DOWN
- Why BPA alwasy works
- We hsould take Crabtree
- Yo dawg can you imagine an o wit Davis, Kelly, Moss, Thomas, Cooley, Portis, n Crabtree. Dat b sick yo.
- Jason Campbell bashers EXPLAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
- So wat do you guys think We Should Do In The Draft
- My Draft strategy
- Crabtree Yo
- Start Colt NAO
- I have an idea
- No
- Yes
- Ci
- Hola
- Que

The possibilities are endless.[/quote]

I have to admit that was pretty funny.

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IMO Vinny is in the perfect postion to trade down. Let's just hope for the best.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;529841]If we sign Haynesworth, i dont see us having the cap space to keep Taylor OR pay sign a lineman with the 13th pick. I think we would try as hard as we could to trade down. With so many good players likely to be available, and with this draft sorely lacking in depth (ive read alot of 3rd and 4th round talent will go in the 2nd), it should be easy to find a trading partner.

Hopefully, we dont trade too far down. I think its imperative that we draft a 1st round quality OT in the 1st round... i wouldnt pick Duke Robinson above 25 though. his stock has been falling dramatically. I also think guard isnt that vital of a position for us if Jansen can move there. We really need to draft an OT with our first pick. AFter that, id look at center, guard, and LB with picks we have/acquire in rounds 2-5.[/quote]

If we were to get Haynesworth, I could see the Skins draft scenario changing. But, as things stand now, the lack of depth in the draft is theoretically a good reason not to trade down.

After all, by advocating trading down, on the down side you're talking about risking not getting a top talent at all at a position of need while paying 2nd Round money to a 4th Round talent.

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I don't think the Redskins should trade out of the 13th overall pick, for a while I was in favor of it, but with Andre Smith's antics probably dropping him to 13th, I think we should take him. A team shouldn't assume that a guy who is immature at 22 will never grow up. Put him around strong leaders (Jason Taylor in particular) and I think he could become a dominant OT.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;529850]Oh come on can't we lower our standard for one day. Think of all the quality discussion.

- Will Haynesworth help our backup DE's get more sacks?
- SAY NO TO HAYNESWORTH
- Say yes to HAYNESWORth
- why Zron shuld run da wildcat
- I wun run wildkat nxt yr
- GUYS CALM DOWN
- Why BPA alwasy works
- We hsould take Crabtree
- Yo dawg can you imagine an o wit Davis, Kelly, Moss, Thomas, Cooley, Portis, n Crabtree. Dat b sick yo.
- Jason Campbell bashers EXPLAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
- So wat do you guys think We Should Do In The Draft
- My Draft strategy
- Crabtree Yo
- Start Colt NAO
- I have an idea
- No
- Yes
- Ci
- Hola
- Que

The possibilities are endless.[/quote]

Don't forget....
- We should've kept Marcus Mason
- Let's sign (Jerry Porter/Deuce McAllister/insert old washed up veteran that doesn't fill any need) for the vet min.

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Turn that mid-high first into a low first and mid second, keep our third, and take best O-lineman available each pick. Come away with a starting guard and tackle, and a center who will be a starter in a year or two.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;529850]Oh come on can't we lower our standard for one day. Think of all the quality discussion.

- Will Haynesworth help our backup DE's get more sacks?
- SAY NO TO HAYNESWORTH
- Say yes to HAYNESWORth
- why Zron shuld run da wildcat
- I wun run wildkat nxt yr
- GUYS CALM DOWN
- Why BPA alwasy works
- We hsould take Crabtree
- Yo dawg can you imagine an o wit Davis, Kelly, Moss, Thomas, Cooley, Portis, n Crabtree. Dat b sick yo.
- Jason Campbell bashers EXPLAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
- So wat do you guys think We Should Do In The Draft
- My Draft strategy
- Crabtree Yo
- Start Colt NAO
- I have an idea
- No
- Yes
- Ci
- Hola
- Que

The possibilities are endless.[/quote]

and......

-Forget Mason he played against 2nd/3rd stringers......
-My love infatuation for Betts the fumbler....
-Why I think Rock is the second coming.....

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I'm not sure that trading down is the right thing to do. If we had Jimmie Johnson or any other compitent front office type I would be all for it but last year the Redskins traded down and at the time it seemed like a good move but looking back isn't Sam Baker whom the Falcons selected with the pick they got from the Redskins just the type of player everyone is saying we need right now?

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If we trade down we'll be at 20 or 21 (very unlikely we trade w/ Eagles but u never know) and we could still get an immediate starter because guys are falling in projection. Rey Maluauga is an example as his combine was lousy and evidently he runs the 40 like a DT... he may well be there at 20 or 21. Andre Smith may fall that far and I'll take him in a heartbeat and put him at RT over Jansen/Heyer any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I think what's most important about trading down is that we get the second pick in the second round to have the best shot at coming out of this draft w/ two starters (hopefully RT and OLB). If it's necessary to package our first and last pick to get 1st and 2nd rounders i'm ok w/ that actually as we have 4 picks either way but a 2nd rounder is much more ready to make an impact than a 7th(?) rounder.

... I think Maluauga at 20, the best RT available to us for the 2nd round pick and a guy like Sidbury in the 3rd would be a best case scenario...

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[quote=Eknox;529843]I think that trading down for an OT later in the first would be a good move, but has anyone thought about grabbing a backup RB with the 2nd round pick we'd pick up, although it wasn't a very impressive group at the combine maybe a Shonn Greene would be a nice pickup, after all we don't exactly look scary at tailback..[/quote]

Two Hawkeyes behind Portis. I like, but would rather all picks be OL, DL, and LB.

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[quote=drew54;529979]Two Hawkeyes behind Portis. I like, but would rather all picks be OL, DL, and LB.[/quote]

Definately. If we had 7 picks I would love to see one spent in the mid rounds on a RB, but were a little limited here.

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I had a dream last night where we traded down and got Andre Smith. The oracle has spoken .

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[quote=Dirtbag359;529986]I had a dream last night where we traded down and got Andre Smith. The oracle has spoken .[/quote]

Sweet. Hard telling how far this guy will fall now. Some experts had him as the best overall player in the draft prior to his little episode.

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[quote=DirtyLandry;529989]Sweet. Hard telling how far this guy will fall now. Some experts had him as the best overall player in the draft prior to his little episode.[/quote]


Episode? Uh-Oh, where are all the "character issue" bloggers? I don't even know what he's done and can see the moral majority will want to pass. I mean if we should pass on Randy Moss, CJ, Bolden, Hall (even though we took him) and Haynesworth, then clearly we need to pass on Smith who is a college kid who has not proven he can play in the NFL.

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[quote=SBXVII;529997]Episode? Uh-Oh, where are all the "character issue" bloggers? [B]I don't even know what he's done [/B]and can see the moral majority will want to pass. I mean if we should pass on Randy Moss, CJ, Bolden, Hall (even though we took him) and Haynesworth, then clearly we need to pass on Smith who is a college kid who has not proven he can play in the NFL.[/quote]

It's not what Smith did, but what he didn't do. I for one wanted Randy Moss and never really thought that he was a bad charachter guy. Also, I'm not so sure we passed on mr. ocho cinco rather the bungles held on to him, and I would consider him to be a head case.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;529792]There are just too many players who fit our needs who will grade out as 1st Rounders. Any of these players could be available when we pick:

OT - Andre Smith, Michael Oher
DT - B.J. Raji, Peria Jerry
LB - Brian Cushing, Rey Maualuga

Personally, I love the idea of having OG Duke Robinson on our team but I doubt that we'd draft him at #13.[/quote]

No brainer, trade down

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[quote=SBXVII;529997]Episode? Uh-Oh, where are all the "character issue" bloggers? I don't even know what he's done and can see the moral majority will want to pass. I mean if we should pass on Randy Moss, CJ, Bolden, Hall (even though we took him) and Haynesworth, then clearly we need to pass on Smith who is a college kid who has not proven he can play in the NFL.[/quote]

To my understanding, Andre Smith said he was going to be at the combine on a Saturday and he wasn't there. Apparently he wasn't going to work out, so I don't know what he was going to do at the combine that day. And apparently being absent without telling anyone was the worst thing he could do in his life.