JLC...Being JLC (Colors Critique of Haynesworth Deal with Nonsense)
 

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He raises some valid, if not obvious points, but seriously dude, let the cat have his presser before you're annointing him the next FA bust and complaining about the 45 employees laid off. It sucks for them, no doubt-I'm in the same boat with them, but 4 other teams have had lay-offs as well. It's completely different sides of the business.

JLC was on First Take this morning and when the question was, does this put Zorn on the hot seat he said no, it puts Vinny on the hot seat and spent 2 minutes railing against VC. He's so clearly got an axe to grind but I'm tired of reading about it in every article he writes about the team.

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The comment about the employees was a low, irrelevant, and uneccesary blow by JLC

Also, I didn't realize that the Jason Taylor "experiment" was over or that the talent around Haynesworth ($100 million!) was better in Tennesee than he'll have here in DC. I'm sure Landry, Horton, Rogers, Hall, Griffin, Carter, Taylor, and Fletcher are thrilled to hear that.

I think he's just upset that he totally missed the boat on this news

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[quote=Paintrain;531303][URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/02/a_100_million_gamble.html?wprss=redskinsinsider"]A $100 Million Gamble? - Redskins Insider[/URL]

He raises some valid, if not obvious points, but seriously dude, let the cat have his presser before you're annointing him the next FA bust and complaining about the 45 employees laid off. It sucks for them, no doubt-I'm in the same boat with them, but 4 other teams have had lay-offs as well. It's completely different sides of the business.

JLC was on First Take this morning and when the question was, does this put Zorn on the hot seat he said no, it puts Vinny on the hot seat and spent 2 minutes railing against VC. He's so clearly got an axe to grind but I'm tired of reading about it in every article he writes about the team.[/quote]


VC is on the hot seat if we don't win this year. It is a gamble to put $100 million dollars on a D tackle. They are in the trenches and get hurt frequently. 2 weeks out...4 weeks out..common occurences in the trenches. So no doubt this is a major gamble. I hope it works out. Haynesworth should make everyone better.

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What a douche JLC is. I agree with SS - the employee layoff comment was totally lame. It's pretty obvious how annoyed he is.

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[quote=SmootSmack;531306]The comment about the employees was a low, irrelevant, and uneccesary blow by JLC

Also, I didn't realize that the Jason Taylor "experiment" was over or that the talent around Haynesworth ($100 million!) was better in Tennesee than he'll have here in DC. I'm sure Landry, Horton, Rogers, Hall, Griffin, Carter, Taylor, and Fletcher are thrilled to hear that.

I think he's just upset that he totally missed the boat on this news[/quote]

Especially after how adamant he was about the Redskins not having the cap space for him.

A quick note on cap space since he consistently talks about the Redskins having the 'worst cap in the league', among the teams that had less cap space than us as of Friday morning from Adam Schefter:

LEAST
Carolina — $1.9 million
New England — $3.2 million
Indianapolis — $6.6 million
Pittsburgh — $7.4 million
Washington — $8.1 million

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Also, where is he getting this "LaVar Arrington experiment didn't work" stuff? He wasn't an experiment. He was one of the best defensive players I've ever seen in college football, and we drafted the guy. Sure injuries derailed him, and he had his issues with the front office, but he had some solid years here (and a few pro-bowls) despite playing on a lot of lousy teams.

Funny how (for the sake of his argument) he conveniently doesn't even mention the distinct possibility of an uncapped year in 2010 and beyond.

JLC is a bitter, sniveling little jerk.

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[quote=SmootSmack;531306]The comment about the employees was a low, irrelevant, and uneccesary blow by JLC... I think he's just upset that he totally missed the boat on this news[/quote]

You hit the nail on the head with both points. 48 hours ago JLC was all but swearing on a bible that we couldnt get Haynesworth and now he's here. JLC has a egg all over his face and hes pissed. He's always negative about everything skins-related. I don't mind negativity, and the skins certainly deserve alot of it - but JLC goes out of his way to take shots at them and its ruined his credibility with me.

I'm not necessarily a huge fan of this move, but he was the best FA on the market by a mile, and has the potential to dramatically improve our entire defense. It seems like we took an unacceptable risk here, but i dont know the contract details and i dont know exactly whats going to happen with the CBA, so i'll reserve judgement for now.

For someone wanting a positive take on the signing, here ya go:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=chadiha_jeffri&id=3939231]Jeffri Chadiha analyzes Albert Haynesworth's signing - ESPN[/url]

[quote]...If you think that's a reach, just consider that Tennessee was 22-7 the past two seasons (including postseason games) when Haynesworth was on the field and 1-4 when he wasn't. You also can look at his production during that time -- he amassed 14½ sacks in 27 regular-season games, an impressive number for an interior player -- and see how vital he was to a Titans defense that ranked near the top of the NFL in most statistical categories. Haynesworth's ability to consistently beat double-teams made it nearly impossible to run inside on the Titans. His improved pass-rushing skills made it just as easy for his other teammates to pressure quarterbacks...

...Haynesworth became a changed man after that suspension. He attended counseling and surely realized he was throwing away a promising career. As much as people claim he became a Pro Bowl player when he was entering the final year of his rookie contract in 2007, it's safe to assume Haynesworth's improvement had just as much to do with something else: his ability to grow up in a hurry...

...So when you start to evaluate the Redskins' decision to pay Haynesworth mind-boggling money, please be sure to view all the dimensions involved in this deal. This isn't merely another example of Snyder's spending money as if he's a first-year college student armed with his daddy's credit card. The Redskins basically did what they had to do to improve a team that desperately needed defensive line help. And right now the smart money says that Haynesworth is more than ready to give that franchise ample return on its investment.
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Funny how (for the sake of his argument) he conveniently doesn't even mention the distinct possibility of an uncapped year in 2010 and beyond.

JLC is a bitter, sniveling little jerk.[/quote]

Just out of curiosity does anyone know what happens to us next year without a CBA?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;531330]Just out of curiosity does anyone know what happens to us next year without a CBA?[/quote]

2010 will be uncapped we can do whatever we want with contracts pretty much. It may cost us big time $$ (not like Snyder cares), but we will have no cap to worry about. Given the $155M in contracts we just doled out and the 4 or 5 guys who restructured this week, I think it's safe to say we're pretty much banking on an uncapped season in 2010.

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[quote=GMScud;531336]2010 will be uncapped we can do whatever we want with contracts pretty much. It may cost us big time $$ (not like Snyder cares), but we will have no cap to worry about. Given the $155M in contracts we just doled out and the 4 or 5 guys who restructured this week, I think it's safe to say we're pretty much banking on an uncapped season in 2010.[/quote]

So it's more of a financial problem then a cap problem without a new CBA? Because I keep on thinking that all these bonuses being spread out will be moved to our 2009 cap and as a result there will be no way we can afford that in terms of cap space.

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Ugh, why does JLC does this? One thing is constructive criticism, but another is this petty crap. Also on the Sports Reporters they tend to do the same thing sometimes...man I miss Riggo and his crew.

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[quote=GMScud;531316]What a douche JLC is. I agree with SS - the employee layoff comment was totally lame. It's pretty obvious how annoyed he is.[/quote]

If you were one of the employees, how would you feel? Ecstatic? It's reality now a days and I would be pissed!!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;531351]If you were one of the employees, how would you feel? Ecstatic? It's reality now a days and I would be pissed!![/quote]

So you wouldn't be pissed at the bench warmer that makes a 6-figure salary?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;531351]If you were one of the employees, how would you feel? Ecstatic? It's reality now a days and I would be pissed!![/quote]

From a total football perspective (which what JLC is supposed to be reporting from) the employees that were laid off have nothing to do with the signing. It was a unecessary low-blow. JLC is a total douche.

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how about he knocks us for something really stupid....

like us offering EFFING SUISHAM a contract on wed.

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JLC just cant get the scoops he used to, and he has burned alot of bridges. I think its time for Jason Reid to take over all beat responsibilities...let JLC go report in Wichita.

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you gotta love these reporters taking shots at the skins but i don,t give a crap what they think ...


right on smootsmack..

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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks he sucks at his job.

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He raises some valid points, but yeah the cheap shot about firing employees is pretty dumb. Using that logic I guess nobody should be signing any free agents today.

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[quote=Mattyk72;531377]He raises some valid points, but yeah the cheap shot about firing employees is pretty dumb. Using that logic I guess nobody should be signing any free agents today.[/quote]

Yeah I agree that the points are valid.

I appreciate a dissenting opinion becasue then that means you're thinking of the pro and con recourse of your decisions and not caught up in the parade hype that's taking place.

I liked the point about the expectation of Haynesworth coming in and his performance in relation to that. Our line sucked this past year and we made ONE improvement to it.

Right now, God forbid, if Haynesworth goes down we have the same line we did last year that yielded terrible sack numbers.

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[quote=Mattyk72;531377]He raises some valid points, but yeah the cheap shot about firing employees is pretty dumb. Using that logic I guess nobody should be signing any free agents today.[/quote]

Rather than signing Haynesworth I THINK he should have rehired those employees along with another fifty more.

While the Skins are mired in mediocrity another season, at least I would get warm fuzzies knowing that people who really don't have a lot to do with the on-field product have jobs. :doh:

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I know that sounds cynical and shitty, it's the nature of the beast.

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Oh yeah...when we got Jason Taylor everyone thought...Oh man is that going to free up Carter and he is going to have a big year. We all know how that turned out.

Not trying to be a downer but offseason excitement is running at an all time high and is not being back by substance. The present economy could tell you that is not a good direction to go.

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JLC isn't the only one taking a stab at Snyder for the front office layoffs

[QUOTE]Snyder's spending comes across as economically brash — particularly for a franchise that laid off at least 23 front-office employees last month. Even if each worker was earning $1,000,000 a year, that savings would barely be enough to cover Hall's guarantee.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9273836/Redskins-taking-more-big-name,-big-money-risks]FOX Sports on MSN - NFL - Redskins taking more big-name, big-money risks[/url]

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I hate the BS stabs about layoffs. The players ARE THE PRODUCT. They are tantamount to the paper that Dunder-Mifflin sell. If Dunder-Mifflin lays off Creed does that then mean they can't go buy paper to sell? At whatever price they need to spend to get it?

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[quote=FRPLG;531423]I hate the BS stabs about layoffs. The players ARE THE PRODUCT. They are tantamount to the paper that Dunder-Mifflin sell. If Dunder-Mifflin lays off Creed does that then mean they can't go buy paper to sell? At whatever price they need to spend to get it?[/quote]

It's a stupid argument that doesn't merit any response

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[quote=FRPLG;531423]I hate the BS stabs about layoffs. The players ARE THE PRODUCT. They are tantamount to the paper that Dunder-Mifflin sell. If Dunder-Mifflin lays off Creed does that then mean they can't go buy paper to sell? At whatever price they need to spend to get it?[/quote]

Thank you. It's kind of counter-intuitive to say a team or company that goes through some layoffs should be forbidden and/or ridiculed for spending money in an attempt to improve it's product.

JLC can eat a bowl of....

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[quote=SmootSmack;531425]It's a stupid argument that doesn't merit any response[/quote]

I agree but you and I both know there are a good amount of people out there who make stupid arguments like this. Look at the Calhoun situation up at UConn. Maybe he should have handled it better but his basic sentiment was right on the money.

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No offense but the thread title is kind of gross can we change it by any chance?

Edit: Thanks.

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Can we ban/lock any posts that have the letters JLC in it? Seriously, the dude spits haterade all over Redskins Land. Had the Danny not signed Haynesworth and opted for 4-5 lesser players/contracts JLC would have crucified him for that as well. I can read it now "Snyder failed to address the D-line by missing out on the best available player" Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It wouldn't matter who they picked up, JLC would have something negative to say.

He needs to jump back on the Campbell Soup can label or move to Dallas!

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We wear Burgundy and Gold here in the District!!

HAIL!!

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[quote=Skinny Tee;531412]Oh yeah...when we got Jason Taylor everyone thought...Oh man is that going to free up Carter and he is going to have a big year. We all know how that turned out.

Not trying to be a downer but offseason excitement is running at an all time high and is not being back by substance. The present economy could tell you that is not a good direction to go.[/quote]

I don't think everyone is overly optimistic about the Hayneworth sign. Plus, it was kind of hard for Jason Taylor to free up Carter, when Taylor was on the bench hurt.

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I think Carter will benefit more from Haynesworth's presense than Taylor. Hopefully, Carter will have 10+ sacks like he did in 2007 when Griff was healthy the whole year and our defense was more aggressive.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;531452]I think Carter will benefit more from Haynesworth's presense than Taylor. Hopefully, Carter will have 10+ sacks like he did in 2007 when Griff was healthy the whole year and our defense was more aggressive.[/quote]

And Gregg Williams was calling the defensive plays

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;531452]I think Carter will benefit more from Haynesworth's presense than Taylor. Hopefully, Carter will have 10+ sacks like he did in 2007 when Griff was healthy the whole year and our defense was more aggressive.[/quote]

I also want AH to help in the running game. Ugh, I still remember when the f'ing Cowpukes ran 11 running plays in a row late in the second game at FedEx.

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[quote=SmootSmack;531306]The comment about the employees was a low, irrelevant, and uneccesary blow by JLC

Also, I didn't realize that the Jason Taylor "experiment" was over or that the talent around Haynesworth ($100 million!) was better in Tennesee than he'll have here in DC. I'm sure Landry, Horton, Rogers, Hall, Griffin, Carter, Taylor, and Fletcher are thrilled to hear that.

I think he's just upset that he totally missed the boat on this news[/quote]

The comments about people being laid off was stupid. But I think it's safe to say Tenn has better personel on defense than we did. Don't you?

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[quote=Ruhskins;531457]I also want AH to help in the running game. Ugh,[B] I still remember when the f'ing Cowpukes ran 11 running plays in a row late in the second game at FedEx[/B].[/quote]

That would be nice. The reason the Cowgirls where able to do that is due to the fact that they had the luxury of a fresh Marion Barber. I think that is stilll a big part of our game we need to address. A good 2 back system.

As far as JLC, I don't care what he has to say.

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[quote=SkinzzFan;531442]Can we ban/lock any posts that have the letters JLC in it? Seriously, the dude spits haterade all over Redskins Land. Had the Danny not signed Haynesworth and opted for 4-5 lesser players/contracts JLC would have crucified him for that as well. I can read it now "Snyder failed to address the D-line by missing out on the best available player" Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It wouldn't matter who they picked up, JLC would have something negative to say.

He needs to jump back on the Campbell Soup can label or move to Dallas!

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We wear Burgundy and Gold here in the District!!

HAIL!![/quote]

Well you have to remember the guy does do a good job of bringing information to legions of fans and to an extent he should be granted some Leigha.

I'm still a little skeptical myself, but that should wear off if we at least bring in Dock though as I've said before I really want to see two lineman brought into the fold then either draft Rey Maluga or Knoshon Moreno.

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[quote=skinsfan69;531458]The comments about people being laid off was stupid. But I think it's safe to say Tenn has better personel on defense than we did. Don't you?[/quote]

I agree with both of what you're saying. If JLC can name all 20 those people then he really cares about them more than you or I do. I doubt he can do that but you can bet he knows the 53 man Redskins roster.


I do think that he has a arguable point to how much impact Haynesworth is expected to have and what he will actually perform. Tennessee does have a better attacking defense than us and Haynesworth was benefitting from that as well. He won't have the same luxury here if everyone expects him to be double and tripled teamed while everyone else has a hayday rushing the QB.

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[quote=skinsfan69;531458]The comments about people being laid off was stupid. But I think it's safe to say Tenn has better personel on defense than we did. Don't you?[/quote]

You can say with certainty that Cortland Finnegan and Nick Harper is a better CB duo than Hall and Rogers? LDE Javon Kearse had 3.5 sacks last year with the Titans and RDE Kyle Vanden Bosch had 4.5 (granted he only played 10 games). LDE Jason Taylor had 3.5 sacks (didn't play a full season) and RDE Andre Carter had 4 sacks. They had Haynesworth in the middle, Carter and Taylor had Golston.

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Skins had the league's 4th ranked defense last year. Tennessee was 7th.

So do we have better personnel? Or just a better overall unit?