Will We look to up grade the OL next?
 

I ask this because I thought Chad Rinehart had a lot of up side will he get a chance at that LG spot?

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[quote=RedskinPete;531485]I ask this because I thought Chad Rinehart had a lot of up side will he get a chance at that LT spot?[/quote]

Where have you been? At the end of year meetings the coaching staff basically admitted that Rinehart is probably going to be a bust.

We need one more free agent upgrade and that no question has to be on the Oline! Then draft another olineman in the first and we are much better.

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Free agent upgrade can come from Dockery (well a younger player), but Jason Brown is still out there, who would be a big upgrade, but at the guard position. We could get a tackle upgrade through the draft, especially if one of the top 5 tackles is available at #13.

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I don't know if we have enough room for Brown C from Baltimore, that's who they should have signed first.

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[quote=wilsowilso;531487]Where have you been? At the end of year meetings the coaching staff basically admitted that Rinehart is probably going to be a bust.

We need one more free agent upgrade and that no question has to be on the Oline! Then draft another olineman in the first and we are much better.[/quote] Didn't hear that wow...so if our WR's and TE in last years draft don't pan out only Horton was any help!

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[quote=RedskinPete;531485]I ask this because I thought Chad Rinehart had a lot of up side will he get a chance at that LT spot?[/quote]

LT? If we put Rinehart at left tackle you can kiss Jason Campbell goodbye.

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[quote=GMScud;531494]LT? If we put Rinehart at left tackle you can kiss Jason Campbell goodbye.[/quote] LG not LT!

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[quote=RedskinPete;531492]Didn't hear that wow...so if our WR's and TE in last years draft don't pan out only Horton was any help![/quote]

Yeah I thought Rinehart was going to be solid, but it turns out that he is much like the rest of the first five picks from last year. Suspect.

Still have hopes for at least one of the second rounders to really step up and make a contribution next year.

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[quote=RedskinPete;531496]LG not LT![/quote]

Well, you edited your original post after I made that comment. Anyway, like wilsowilso said, in the winter meetings the coaches basically said Rinehart isn't a contributor whatsoever right now. I think we'll make a push for Dockery, if not I expect us to re-sign Kendall on the cheap.

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Too soon to write off Rinehart as a bust

They should get at least one OL in free agency and at least one in the draft.

I wonder if they're bringing Kendall back

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[quote=wilsowilso;531497]Yeah I thought Rinehart was going to be solid, but it turns out that he is much like the rest of the first five picks from last year. Suspect.

Still have hopes for at least one of the second rounders to really step up and make a contribution.[/quote] I like Davis at TE should we try to get both Davis and Cooley on the field at the same time like the Colts do with thier TE? Also if Rinehart is that big a bust why have we not cut him?

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[quote=RedskinPete;531501]I like Davis at TE should we try to get both Davis and Cooley on the field at the same time like the Colts do with thier TE? Also if Rinehart is that big a bust why have we not cut him?[/quote]

I think maybe they are trying to light a fire or something? I mean he seriously got called out in public at those review meetings.

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[quote=wilsowilso;531487]Where have you been? At the end of year meetings [B]the coaching staff basically admitted that Rinehart is probably going to be a bust[/B].

We need one more free agent upgrade and that no question has to be on the Oline! Then draft another olineman in the first and we are much better.[/quote]

Between now and the preseason I think Rinehart will shape up and turn into a starter. I also think thats an unfair assessment of his skills.

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[quote=DIRTEE;531503]Between now and the preseason I think Rinehart will shape up and turn into a starter. I also think thats an unfair assessment of his skills.[/quote]

Chad...it's okay. Just because you're a bust doesn't mean that you can't contribute. That is you right, Chad?

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Sign Dock and Willis then they can take the BPA come draft day.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;531505]Chad...it's okay. Just because you're a bust doesn't mean that you can't contribute. That is you right, Chad?[/quote]

Pretty funny. Actually I'm Colt and I want to start.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;531510]Sign Dock and Willis then they can take the BPA come draft day.[/quote]

my sentiments exactly. those two moves would allow us to do pretty much whatever we wanted on draft day.

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[quote=DIRTEE;531533]Pretty funny. Actually I'm Colt and I want to start.[/quote]

start chad and colt in 2009? thats the smartest thing i think ive ever read. you should really be our GM.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;531510]Sign Dock and Willis then they can take the BPA come draft day.[/quote]

I don't think it's possible to get two more expensive free agents under the cap?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;531491]I don't know if we have enough room for Brown C from Baltimore, that's who they should have signed first.[/quote]

Well he's not getting the money he was expected to get in the free agent market. So that's going to help us, if we and he is still interested.

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Think with all this money being spent now that we are going to trade down? With the Haynesworth deal and the Hall resigning, what is the cap situation for acquiring a FA offensive lineman and our draft picks?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;531510]Sign Dock and Willis then they can take the BPA come draft day.[/quote]

Dock is in, let's hope Willis soon follows and pray Orapko is available at 13.

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[quote=Paintrain;531616]Dock is in, let's hope Willis soon follows and pray Orapko is available at 13.[/quote]

Ok... there's a lot of good stuff happening so i'm hesitant to nit-pick but Orakpo is not our guy if we go defense @ 13. If we go defense w/ the 13th pick Rey Maluauga is the man. We're already thin at LB and our defense, regardless of big Al, will continue to center around London. Like GTripp has said if he gets hurt, and he showed signs of wearing down last season, things will not go well. Rey is an animal. He can play SLB for as long as Fletcher is our QB on D but if the worst happened we'd have him to step in. Rey is the hardest hitter in the '09 draft and exactly what we need.

... that said we may still trade down in which case Orakpo is def out of the question and Rey may well be too (hard to tell cuz his combine was lousy and he doesn't show the speed everyone wants).

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[quote=wilsowilso;531536]I don't think it's possible to get two more expensive free agents under the cap?[/quote]

He's suppose to come to us cheap.

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i think willis is doable and orakpo at 13 would be my choice too, but we'll have to get closer to see what happens there.

still possible to get a pick for golston and sign kendall as depth, but there's a good chance with the tight cap space that we forgo that with a willis signing.

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[quote=That Guy;531687]i think willis is doable and orakpo at 13 would be my choice too, but we'll have to get closer to see what happens there.

still possible to get a pick for golston and sign kendall as depth, but there's a good chance with the tight cap space that we forgo that with a willis signing.[/quote] Love to get Willis and then we could get that LB in the draft!

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Rey Maualuga is not very versatile. would rather have Brian Cushing or Clint Sintim and have one of them play SLB so Blades could go back to being groomed for MLB when London is out.

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[quote=jrocx69;532030]Rey Maualuga is not very versatile. would rather have Brian Cushing or Clint Sintim and have one of them play SLB so Blades could go back to being groomed for MLB when London is out.[/quote]

Cushing has the lowest durability rating of any LB expected to go in the 1st round... be very surprised if he has a successful career in the NFL.

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[quote=DIRTEE;531503]Between now and the preseason I think Rinehart will shape up and turn into a starter. I also think thats an unfair assessment of his skills.[/quote]

Good post, players often make big strides between years, especially 1 & 2. Even if he only makes the team as a reserve, I really don't think that's enough to label him a bust.

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[quote=The Goat;531622]Ok... there's a lot of good stuff happening so i'm hesitant to nit-pick but Orakpo is not our guy if we go defense @ 13. If we go defense w/ the 13th pick Rey Maluauga is the man. We're already thin at LB and our defense, regardless of big Al, will continue to center around London. Like GTripp has said if he gets hurt, and he showed signs of wearing down last season, things will not go well. Rey is an animal. He can play SLB for as long as Fletcher is our QB on D but if the worst happened we'd have him to step in. Rey is the hardest hitter in the '09 draft and exactly what we need.

... that said we may still trade down in which case Orakpo is def out of the question and Rey may well be too (hard to tell cuz his combine was lousy and he doesn't show the speed everyone wants).[/quote]

I'm a big fan of Maluagua, but I heard they(The Redskins) were asking Orapko about playing LB at the combine ..

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[quote=wilsowilso;531487]Where have you been? At the end of year meetings the coaching staff basically admitted that Rinehart is probably going to be a bust.

We need one more free agent upgrade and that no question has to be on the Oline! Then draft another olineman in the first and we are much better.[/quote]

I have seen conflicting reports on that. Wasn't that basically a post by JLC that said the staff labeled Rinehart a bust.

I also saw an interview with Bugel where he painted a much more positive picture.

This team is not afraid to sit someone a whole year (remember Rocky?). They liked Rinehart a lot in camp and he is an all american. I wouldn't write him off completely yet.

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but we should sign a starting right tackle who can be there for the next 2 years. draft a tackle 1st round and if he beats that person out great if not well at least we have a capable starter in at rt. JJ is probably getting cut next year and samuels isnt getting any younger. if rinehart can surpass thomas on the o line thats great too. but if not then next year draft a starter for rg. but back to this year if for our 3rd round pick we can get a center that would help as well. now as far as slb goes hopefully we can find a serviceable one in FA for cheap and again maybe draft one next year.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;532071]I have seen conflicting reports on that. Wasn't that basically a post by JLC that said the staff labeled Rinehart a bust.

[B]I also saw an interview with Bugel where he painted a much more positive picture.[/B]

This team is not afraid to sit someone a whole year (remember Rocky?). They liked Rinehart a lot in camp and he is an all american. I wouldn't write him off completely yet.[/quote]

That's what I've seen. He talked about Rinehart going to somewhat of a small college and it's taken him awhile for the light to come on, but the light came on toward the end of the year. He said Rinehart now knows what he needs to do. I've also heard it said that their coaching (The young guys) was going to be stepped up to get these guys ready this year.