Ok, I lied..I'm back a week early
 

Nice job week one gentlemen taking care of business...

One question...after you guys stifle the vaGiants this weekend, are you guys ready to face an NFL caliber offense? :silly:

So you are saying that the Cowboys offense is NFL caliber!?!?

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]So you are saying that the Cowboys offense is NFL caliber!?!?[/QUOTE]

5th in the league, thanks...1st passing 28th rushing

As I previously mentioned, the defense was a liability..even a majority of my home board disagreed

No pass rush, predictable defensive playcalling ultra soft schemes with no ball awareness equals big problems on D

yeah 5th in the league but in what YARDS, what do yards get you? Not a win I know that. That is something to brag about getting offisive yards over a sub-par vikings D.

We have the #1 overall Deffense, but that is based on yards. Our team gave up the least amount of yards, but we still could have lost that game also. Does that mean our D is the greatest?

[QUOTE=la73hof]5th in the league, thanks...1st passing 28th rushing

As I previously mentioned, the defense was a liability..even a majority of my home board disagreed

No pass rush, predictable defensive playcalling ultra soft schemes with no ball awareness equals big problems on D[/QUOTE]
Who are you referring to about deffense? If you are refering to us apparently you watched last years game between the redskins and tampa.

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]yeah 5th in the league but in what YARDS, what do yards get you? Not a win I know that. That is something to brag about getting offisive yards over a sub-par vikings D.[/QUOTE]

We caught the Vikes early this season..their D is certainly gonna improve looking at the personnel

Penalties that werent called against the Vikes, mental errors on the OL a botched snap, and a costly turnover really hurt us

And abandoning the running game too early is a mistake Parcells acknowlwdges..and as long as Eddie George is running the ball , our running game underachieves

Lee looked really good and we get Julius back this week

Cant wait till next Monday nite

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]We have the #1 overall Deffense, but that is based on yards. Our team gave up the least amount of yards, but we still could have lost that game also. Does that mean our D is the greatest?[/QUOTE]

No..lik we did last year on several ossasions, you guys took avdantage of a weak offensive team..and thats to be commended

You guys could have rolled over after the botched handoff between Brunnel and Portis,,,but you hung in and won

thats commendable

Still cant get and kudos for our O which for the first time in years has a legitimate QB and potentially very good running game with 2 talented, fast young RB's, huh?

Let's both win our respective opponents this week, roll up our sleeves and officially get down to business after Sunday

Capiche?

[QUOTE=la73hof]
Penalties that werent called against the Vikes, mental errors on the OL a botched snap, and a costly turnover really hurt us
[/QUOTE]
So it wasnt Culpeppers 5 TD passes and the Vikes offense totally dominating your deffense that hurt you? :dallas:

[QUOTE=la73hof]No..lik we did last year on several ossasions, you guys took avdantage of a weak offensive team..and thats to be commended

You guys could have rolled over after the botched handoff between Brunnel and Portis,,,but you hung in and won

thats commendable

Still cant get and kudos for our O which for the first time in years has a legitimate QB and potentially very good running game with 2 talented, fast young RB's, huh?

Let's both win our respective opponents this week, roll up our sleeves and officially get down to business after Sunday

Capiche?[/QUOTE]
Sounds good to me, but I have a hard time saying that Vinny Interseptaverde is a ligit QB. Maybe a good back up but thats it!

As far as your young RB's yeah that are talented and Parcelles has a way of finding good RB's but that is as much as I can say about your ground game.

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]So it wasnt Culpeppers 5 TD passes and the Vikes offense totally dominating your deffense that hurt you? :dallas:[/QUOTE]

No doubt..we got torched..I predicted a 37-24 loss 2 weeks ago

My $$ says if you guys had played them, they still hang 30 on you...your D is very similar to ours last year..take advantage of weaker opponents, but struggle against upper echelon teams

But, you wont see a good offense for another week

Then again, the Giants rolled up 413 yards of offense last week, including 22 runs for 170 yards and 2 TD's

I dont see you guys getting the same pressure the Iggles did on the G-Men in all honesty...The Bucs and Ravens may very well be the worst 2 offenses in football

i wouldn't look past this weekend la73... the browns have some pretty good weapons (morgan, northcutt, davis, winslow) and the boys' secondary looks pretty banged up.

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]Sounds good to me, but I have a hard time saying that Vinny Interseptaverde is a ligit QB. Maybe a good back up but thats it!

As far as your young RB's yeah that are talented and Parcelles has a way of finding good RB's but that is as much as I can say about your ground game.[/QUOTE]

Understandable, but Gibbs made SB Champs of Doug Williams and Mark Rypien

[QUOTE=itvnetop]i wouldn't look past this weekend la73... the browns have some pretty good weapons (morgan, northcutt, davis, winslow) and the boys' secondary looks pretty banged up.[/QUOTE]

We'll win..I have few doubts...but we'll give up some yards and points for sure..Winslow II, Morgan and davis will have their moments courtesy of our secondary and pass rush

or lack there of

Im interested to see how your D responds to the Giants passing game when Williams plays 8 in the box or blitzes if they Giants have some success on the ground

The Giants still have formidable skill position players in Toomer, Hilliard, Shockey and Barber

[QUOTE=la73hof]Understandable, but Gibbs made SB Champs of Doug Williams and Mark Rypien[/QUOTE]
Ok, but now you are comparing Keyshawn, Glen, and Bryant to the likes of MONK, SANDERS, and CLARK A.K.A THE POSSE!!!

I mean look who Williams and Rypien had to throw to!!

Please do not tell me that your trio is as good as them, if you think that then I will have to stop this discussion!!

[QUOTE=la73hof]Im interested to see how your D responds to the Giants passing game when Williams plays 8 in the box or blitzes if they Giants have some success on the ground

The Giants still have formidable skill position players in Toomer, Hilliard, Shockey and Barber[/QUOTE]
I agree that Toomer, Hilliard, Shockey and Barber(when he holds on to the ball) are good skill position players, but no matter how good they are, they can only be as good as the O-LINE will let them!

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]Ok, but now you are comparing Keyshawn, Glen, and Bryant to the likes of MONK, SANDERS, and CLARK A.K.A THE POSSE!!!

I mean look who Williams and Rypien had to throw to!!

Please do not tell me that your trio is as good as them, if you think that then I will have to stop this discussion!![/QUOTE]

you're reading more into what I posted...we have a very good trio @ the WR position...Keyshawn and Glenn has been to pro bowls Bryant is emerging

I cant and wont compare them to the posse,,,they havent and wont be with the team for the same amount of time because of Glenns and KJ's ages and the salary cap

The posse is legend in DC..as well they should be

All Im saying is our WR's will produce they way they have previously because of quality QB play

[QUOTE=la73hof]you're reading more into what I posted...we have a very good trio @ the WR position...Keyshawn and Glenn has been to pro bowls Bryant is emerging

I cant and wont compare them to the posse,,,they havent and wont be with the team for the same amount of time because of Glenns and KJ's ages and the salary cap

The posse is legend in DC..as well they should be

All Im saying is our WR's will produce they way they have previously because of quality QB play[/QUOTE]
You may belive that they will produce because of quality QB play, but IMO THEY (WR's) will make the QB just look good.

Besides what will happen when Vinny gets hit hard and breaks a hip? Is Drew ready?

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]I agree that Toomer, Hilliard, Shockey and Barber(when he holds on to the ball) are good skill position players, but no matter how good they are, they can only be as good as the O-LINE will let them![/QUOTE]

Well, in Giants situation, the preseason was a precursor o things to come..they ran the ball effectively with Dayne out producing Barber and their OL struggles in pass protection, Warner threw INTs and their defense sucked

Fast forward to week 1..
the Giants ran for 170 yards on only 22 carries
their OL gave up 5 sacks
Their defense sucked

The only difference is Warner had no INT's

This game will be closer than you guys may think (just like our game vs Cleveland this week) but IMHO you will win

Just like us

[QUOTE=Redskins8588]You may belive that they will produce because of quality QB play, but IMO THEY (WR's) will make the QB just look good.

[b]Besides what will happen when Vinny gets hit hard and breaks a hip?[/b] Is Drew ready?[/QUOTE]

Tony Romo is our 2nd string QB...he won the job based on the last 2 preseason games...Parcells prefers Romo's addition year in his system

And if Vinny gets hurt, especially early, we're done

The good thing if he gets hurt early is we could potentially be looking @ 2 top 10 picks in the draft, considering the prospects of the Bills

we own their 1st rounder next year

it does suck that you have two first round pick for next year. If Jones was the back you wanted then it was a godo move. IMO Jones didnt look overly impressive in college football last year. He did look better than Chirs Perry though, not sure what Marvin was thinking there. I would bet that the cowboys and bills both get early teens draft choices next year. Could give you the option of trading up for a potential stud. You had some high draft choice for a few years in a row and they are starting to come into their own, a few more could really beef up your team

but in terms of what this thread is about, I dont think stats matter at all in the dallas skins rivalry. Honestly I would love for us to sweep the cowboys this year, but I wouldnt mind if we got back into the old routine of just splitting with yoru everyyear. That is what seemed to always happen no matter what the records or personnel

[QUOTE=la73hof]Nice job week one gentlemen taking care of business...

One question...after you guys stifle the vaGiants this weekend, are you guys ready to face an NFL caliber offense? :silly:[/QUOTE]


Yo dude, Dallas has serious issues on both sides of the ball. Although I think D is lot better than what they showed in 1st game, but the LB are undersized + DL has pass rushing issues and secondary is banged up.

On offense you have a 40 year old QB, who is one hit (LaVar) away from ending his career. The top RB in George, who I think is way past his prime. Others Jones n all are too young and without any experience. On WR's front Keshawn just has a big mouth, and has practically nothing left in him. In Tampa where they ran West Coast (WR friendly) he did absolutely nothing. So how can u rate Dallas as NFL caliber Offense?

Putting yards in the first week doesn't mean it will happen every week. Let Testeverde come to DC and let LaVar give him a ferocious hit and end a career for another Cowboy QB.


+ Although I have picked Dallas to win this week in my Pick’em league, I seriously doubt if they will. If Browns can manhandle Baltimore then they can certainly handle Dallas.

Comparison
Baltimore D (Ray Lewis and Co) > Dallas D
Baltimore O (Edge with rushing, but questionable passing) > Dallas O (No edge)

The key to stopping the Giants is gonna be Kurt Warner. Williams will give him different looks and confuse him. We all know what happens to Warner when he gets confused, he holds on to the ball, and then we crush him. You are right though, the key is stopping their running game, and getting then into 3rd and long.

[QUOTE=Portis]Yo dude, Dallas has serious issues on both sides of the ball. Although I think D is lot better than what they showed in 1st game, but the LB are undersized + DL has pass rushing issues and secondary is banged up.

On offense you have a 40 year old QB, who is one hit (LaVar) away from ending his career. The top RB in George, who I think is way past his prime. Others Jones n all are too young and without any experience. On WR's front Keshawn just has a big mouth, and has practically nothing left in him. In Tampa where they ran West Coast (WR friendly) he did absolutely nothing. So how can u rate Dallas as NFL caliber Offense?

Putting yards in the first week doesn't mean it will happen every week. Let Testeverde come to DC and let LaVar give him a ferocious hit and end a career for another Cowboy QB.


+ Although I have picked Dallas to win this week in my Pick’em league, I seriously doubt if they will. If Browns can manhandle Baltimore then they can certainly handle Dallas.

Comparison
Baltimore D (Ray Lewis and Co) > Dallas D
Baltimore O (Edge with rushing, but questionable passing) > Dallas O (No edge)[/QUOTE]

The Vikings blitzed a lot on Vinny last weekend, but was hit only a few times and sacked once when we rolled out, had all day to throw, but waited too long and took the sack..In all honesty, Vinny had the ball 6 seconds

Our OL is the antithesis of last year, but we will be a little thin this week with Gurode and Walter out.

Thankfully, we have Matt Lehr, a 16 game starter last year replacing him in the line up.

Walter, a 6th round pick 2 years ago was a revelation in TC and was the starter in last weeks game...but he split time with Al Johnson and is bascally a co-starter with Johnson, last years 2nd rounder

Johnson is more mobile in the run game and is a better run blocker so no huge loss there either..

However, is Lehr or Johnson get hurt this game, we are in serious truoble without Gurode, Walter or Peterman, who was lost for the year with a torn ACL and MCL the last preseason game

Every carry George gets, INHO, is a wasted down..he's too slow and the agility and elusiveness he once had is gone

We can and will get Lee and Jones much more involved as the season progress when Lee and JJ can do an adequate job in pass protection

the pass protection issue is why George and Anderson get the most snaps

Dallas an NFL caliber offense?

You'll see last week was no fluke this weekend

Your fantasy pick was solid but look closer Portis--comparing our O to the Ravens O is foolhardy

In '03, the Ravens had the 21st ranked offense overall and the dead last passing attack in the league.

Then, they lost their best WR, Marcus Robinson to the Vikes (just not fair!!)..they lost out on the TO sweepstakes because TO is a whiny b!tch

They replaced Robinson (and potentially TO) with 2 no-name rookies

Boller simply just hasnt progressed..a combination off poor WR talent and the fact he is obviously on the slow end of the learning curve picking up Billicks offense

To top it off, the Browns were without their future HOF LT in Ogden last week

This allowed the Browns to run a 4 DL, 4 LB fset

No threat of a running game and lousy pass protection without Ogden(kennard Lang 3 sacks vs Ethan Brooks, Ogden's replacement), no WR worthy of mention and a QB who, to this point sucks.

Dont be deceived by the Browns defense...they're very ordinary

their offense will make some plays against our D, but they wont win

[QUOTE=la73hof]The Vikings blitzed a lot on Vinny last weekend, but was hit only a few times and sacked once when we rolled out, had all day to throw, but waited too long and took the sack..In all honesty, Vinny had the ball 6 seconds

Our OL is the antithesis of last year, but we will be a little thin this week with Gurode and Walter out.

Thankfully, we have Matt Lehr, a 16 game starter last year replacing him in the line up.

Walter, a 6th round pick 2 years ago was a revelation in TC and was the starter in last weeks game...but he split time with Al Johnson and is bascally a co-starter with Johnson, last years 2nd rounder

Johnson is more mobile in the run game and is a better run blocker so no huge loss there either..

However, is Lehr or Johnson get hurt this game, we are in serious truoble without Gurode, Walter or Peterman, who was lost for the year with a torn ACL and MCL the last preseason game

Every carry George gets, INHO, is a wasted down..he's too slow and the agility and elusiveness he once had is gone

We can and will get Lee and Jones much more involved as the season progress when Lee and JJ can do an adequate job in pass protection

the pass protection issue is why George and Anderson get the most snaps

Dallas an NFL caliber offense?

You'll see last week was no fluke this weekend

Your fantasy pick was solid but look closer Portis--comparing our O to the Ravens O is foolhardy

In '03, the Ravens had the 21st ranked offense overall and the dead last passing attack in the league.

Then, they lost their best WR, Marcus Robinson to the Vikes (just not fair!!)..they lost out on the TO sweepstakes because TO is a whiny b!tch

They replaced Robinson (and potentially TO) with 2 no-name rookies

Boller simply just hasnt progressed..a combination off poor WR talent and the fact he is obviously on the slow end of the learning curve picking up Billicks offense

To top it off, the Browns were without their future HOF LT in Ogden last week

This allowed the Browns to run a 4 DL, 4 LB fset

No threat of a running game and lousy pass protection without Ogden(kennard Lang 3 sacks vs Ethan Brooks, Ogden's replacement), no WR worthy of mention and a QB who, to this point sucks.

Dont be deceived by the Browns defense...they're very ordinary

their offense will make some plays against our D, but they wont win[/QUOTE]



Yea, I agree Brows D is just ordinary but they still need some recognition as they didn't let Jamal run them over. No NFL game is free lunch and I think Brows can match up to Dallas.

But as much as I hate saying this I think dallas will win this one.

[QUOTE=Portis]Yea, I agree Brows D is just ordinary but they still need some recognition as they didn't let Jamal run them over. No NFL game is free lunch and I think Brows can match up to Dallas.

But as much as I hate saying this I think dallas will win this one.[/QUOTE]

Sure I'll give the Browns credit...they used a 4-4-3 alignment as a base D...8 men in the box at all times...total disregard for the Ravens passing game because they saw on film what everyone knows

The Ravens passing O is the worst in football..and that trend continues

If the Browns do the same to us..well..its gona be ugly

Is Jones going to get some significant work this week?

I'm thinking of starting him on one of my fantasy teams.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Is Jones going to get some significant work this week?

I'm thinking of starting him on one of my fantasy teams.[/QUOTE]

I wouldnt Matty...he's gonna get some touches, but, unless something miraculous happens its just gonna be to get his feet wet

Id wait till next week when we play you guys ;)

haha bring it on rook

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]haha bring it on rook[/QUOTE]

Here's a guy Ive mentioned that has opened eyes..starting in TC, thoughout the preseason and now the first game via a clip from the Ft Worth Star Telegram:

[quote]STAR-TELEGRAM/TOM PENNINGTON
ReShard Lee

RUNNING GAME

Lee out to prove he can contribute

By Clarence E. Hill Jr.

Star-Telegram Staff Writer


IRVING - It may one day be remembered as running back ReShard Lee's drive to significance.

It started with a 62-yard kickoff return, followed by four consecutive carries to the end zone and a touchdown dance that was as much about being thankful for a long-awaited opportunity as it was about paying homage to his beloved fraternity of Omega Psi Phi.

Lee's performance against the Minnesota Vikings, arguably one of the few bright spots in a 35-17 loss, earned him a chance to get a few more opportunities to run the ball in the Cowboys' running back-by-committee approach.

Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said the first-year player from Middle Tennessee State has been coming on since training camp and will get a bigger role, starting Sunday against the Cleveland Browns.

Eddie George will likely remain the starter, and although rookie second-round pick Julius Jones could be ready to return after sitting out the season opener against the Vikings, Parcells said Lee has earned the right to carry the ball, too.

"He's starting to improve as a player," Parcells said. "He made a couple of plays in the game last week and in the preseason. Hopefully, we can use him in a role. It's not going to be a full-time role. He's not ready for that."

Lee gave hope to what had been a plodding rushing attack and provided fodder for Monday morning quarterbacks across Fort Worth-Dallas to second-guess Parcells. After the kickoff return, Lee rushed four consecutive times for 31 yards, capping the drive with a 7-yard burst to the end zone. He didn't play again until the waning moments of the fourth quarter because the Cowboys went to a spread offense with Richie Anderson as the lone running back.

But don't count Lee among Parcells' second-guessers.

"They gave me the ball, I had my opportunity, and I didn't let them down," said Lee, who played last week with a bruised shoulder and a broken thumb. "With coach Parcells, you have to prove yourself on more than one occasion. I just want to prove that I can make plays consistently every week."[/quote]

This kid can play...just something to put in the back of your head for next weeks game

[quote]However, is Lehr or Johnson get hurt this game, we are in serious truoble without Gurode, Walter or Peterman, who was lost for the year with a torn ACL and MCL the last preseason game[/quote]
hmm... O-line, ACL injuries... in preseason... lost for the year.... *sigh*


[quote]Every carry George gets, INHO, is a wasted down..he's too slow and the agility and elusiveness he once had is gone[/quote]
agreed, that guy is done... complete waste of money.

[quote]Your fantasy pick was solid but look closer Portis--comparing our O to the Ravens O is foolhardy[/quote]
too true, no O sucks like the ravens... its just jamal and some run blocking.

your O isn't bad, but the running game is on life support right now... i honestly think the giants will probably put more yards on us, even with their crap O-line... mainly because tiki is a running threat, something dallas just doesn't have right now.

I REALLY don't understand why the giants let collins go, as well as not trying hard for garcia (who, unlike warner, is still in his prime and isn't horribly afraid to be on the field)

[QUOTE=That Guy]hmm... O-line, ACL injuries... in preseason... lost for the year.... *sigh*



agreed, that guy is done... complete waste of money.


too true, no O sucks like the ravens... its just jamal and some run blocking.

your O isn't bad, but the running game is on life support right now... i honestly think the giants will probably put more yards on us, even with their crap O-line... mainly because tiki is a running threat, something dallas just doesn't have right now.

I REALLY don't understand why the giants let collins go, as well as not trying hard for garcia (who, unlike warner, is still in his prime and isn't horribly afraid to be on the field)[/QUOTE]

Collins release was strictly a cap move...they saved 7 mil by releasing him. He was approached by Giants GM Ernie Accorsi about taking a reduction in pay by Collins refused

Then they go out and sign a punch drunk fighter with a glass right hand in Warner...who after last week has lost his last 9 starts.

Our running game isnt on life support...Jones has torn rib cartiledge and missed the last preseason game and opening day

And to be honest, even if JJ had played Sunday it wouldnt have mattered...we still lose

The reason Lee hasnt played much and JJ wont either is not because of their running ability..its their lack of experience in pass protection in nickel sets--Parcells has said as much in this weeks PC's

One missed assignment by either Lee or JJ and its time to start looking forward to the '05 draft and our 2 first round picks--which both will be early if VT gets hurt early and Buffalo continues to stink it up

Thats why Eddie (the thief) George and Richie Anderson get the bulk of the snaps.

The changing of the guard to our younger RB's comes as soon as Parcells is satisfied with their pass protection prowess

And if Vinny is healthy when this occurs, this offense will be the best we've seen in nearly a decade

[QUOTE=la73hof]Understandable, but Gibbs made SB Champs of Doug Williams and Mark Rypien[/QUOTE]
Parcels is NO Joe Gibbs! :headbange

Now because I carry both Jones and George in my leagues, can u tell me how are the carries divided among them?

their defense will continue to give up big points and they will continue to not use their running backs. George will get the start and first shot at scoring. I want George to prove himself becuase I also have him. And I never thought Jones was the anwser for dallas, they should have taken jackson.

Until Jones proves he can block in their system I would expect George to get more carries

i don't think jones is bad, but i didn't really see any possible elite RBs this year... jackson is probably the closest though...

it looks like there are a bunch of studs in college football thisyear

sucks that all those studs will be gone by the time we get to pick :(