Which Player Would You Take at #13 who doesn't fill a need?
 

This is more bizarrely hypothetical than the last thread.

Let's say the Skins were forbidden by an agreement in the CBA (or maybe just because Vinny feels like it) that they could not address OL, DE, or LB in the first round of the draft. Those are clearly our three biggest needs, but we have to wait around until the third round at the earliest to begin addressing them.

You can propose potential trade backs (or ups) in this thread, but you aren't allowed to suggest a player at one of our three primary needs until the third round at the earliest.

So, this is a what would your draft look like thread -- given the above -- with an emphasis on the 13th pick.

Have at it.

CLARIFICATION: You could say, "Michael Crabtree", but then you would have to explain why he fell or what you gave up to get him higher in the draft.

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Peria Jerry to play the 3-technique opposite Haynesworth. That is a bit of an end run since you specified DE, at least we could get a high pick defensive lineman. He has the skills to get after the QB and it would be fun to see him and Haynesworth bring out the very "best" of Eli Manning.

Second choice would be Vontae Davis.

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I expressly made DT a legit pick here, because it's essentially a draft the best possible player for future needs pick. A DT like Jerry definitely satisfies, if he's not my top choice in this question, he's in the top three.

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Beanie Wells

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I would be a homer and take Heyward-Bey. Although this would make me look like Matt Millen. LOL.

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My top four are Malcolm Jenkins, Peria Jerry, Knowshon Moreno, and Heyward-Bey.

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I didn't know that the Redskins were allowed to take anyone but Alex Mack.

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Hmmmm...i would say Crabtree but i dont have an excuse on why he would fall to us lol....sooo....i agree with smoot beanie wells or peria jerry

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Peria Jerry- Beanie Wells- Heyward-Bey would be my top 3. Of course after I took Jerry, none of the others would be there in the 3rd. Oh man...... this is going to take some thought. Damn!

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[quote=WaldSkins;538635]I didn't know that the Redskins were allowed to take anyone but Alex Mack.[/quote]

or Rey Maulauga.

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Pick Crabtree or Harvin at 13th. In 3rd round, pick Britton, or Loadholt to address OT position. A. Mack would be great but he will likely be gone by 3rd round easily. Perry doesn't impress me all that much. He's decent but not elite enough for a 1st round pick.

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An elite WR to help Moss shake double coverage would give us the best weapon threat.

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An elite WR would give us the best weapon to be contended with. Portis in the backfield, Cooley at TE, Moss and #13 pick WR at wideouts, then add Randel El, Thomas, Or Kelly in the mix makes for an Arsenal not to be taken lightly.

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I would take Beanie Wells at #13.

In the 3rd Round, I would hope to get one of these players: OT Phil Loadholt, DE Robert Ayers, DE Lawrence Sidbury, C Eric Woods, or C Antoine Caldwell.

I have a question for those of you who have seen Sidbury play more than I have: Do you think he could play SLB in our system?

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Knowshon Moreno to pair with Clinton.

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Jeremy Maclin

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yeah i go w/ Peria Jerry. Hopefully we could simultaneously work out a Golston/Monty trade for a 2nd round pick to address OT or LB and still get a competitive player. The d-line would be off the hook.

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crabtree... he fell to 13 cause god likes us...

or whatever other reason to want to make up, the point is, he'd actually help our offense ;).

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Knowshon or harvin or crabtree, because his stock is dropping mostly due to injury, and partly due to teams needs...we could also say maclin as well, but I'm not nearly as high on him as harvin or crabtree

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[quote=Nflnick11;538687]Knowshon or harvin or crabtree, because his stock is dropping mostly due to injury, and partly due to teams needs...we could also say maclin as well, but I'm not nearly as high on him as harvin or crabtree[/quote]

We need a large receiver that could catch the fade route.

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[quote=WaldSkins;538693]We need a large receiver that could catch the fade route.[/quote]

Hopefully that's Kelly or Thomas, or both :)

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[quote=The Goat;538695]Hopefully that's Kelly or Thomas, or both :)[/quote]

Im hoping for Kelly.

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[quote=WaldSkins;538696]Im hoping for Kelly.[/quote]

Wald do u mean Kelly is more likely to succeed or you just like him over Thomas?

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[quote=The Goat;538697]Wald do u mean Kelly is more likely to succeed or you just like him over Thomas?[/quote]

I think as long as he stays healthy he is more likely to succeed. He could be that big target receiver that could quite possibly catch 15 balls a game. I see Thomas as more as a backup to Moss in the number 1 role.

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Gotcha. Personally i have doubts about Thomas' abilities at WR in the near-term... which is why I think we ought to be getting our value out of him at KR/PR. He has phenom athletic ability once the ball is in his hands but I think route-running, catching and basically battling to make plays prior to the catch will be a weak point until he gets some better coaching.

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[quote=The Goat;538699]Gotcha. Personally i have doubts about Thomas' abilities at WR in the near-term... which is why I think we ought to be getting our value out of him at KR/PR. He has phenom athletic ability once the ball is in his hands but I think route-running, catching and basically battling to make plays prior to the catch will be a weak point until he gets some better coaching.[/quote]

I seen him run a couple kick returns back in preseason last year and it looked to me like he was scared to run full speed. He just ran into his own blockers and went down pretty easy. Now i'm not saying that was as good as he could be, just that he has a way to go.

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[quote=The Goat;538677]yeah i go w/ Peria Jerry. Hopefully we could simultaneously work out a Golston/Monty trade for a 2nd round pick to address OT or LB and still get a competitive player. The d-line would be off the hook.[/quote]

Nobody is going to give us a 2nd Round pick for Golston or Montgomery.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;538703]Nobody is going to give us a 2nd Round pick for Golston or Montgomery.[/quote]

Yea we can't trade with ourselves

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[quote=WaldSkins;538704]Yea we can't trade with ourselves[/quote]

Ha! Its too bad we cant... we could use some 2nd rounders back!!

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[quote=mcludka;538707]Ha! Its too bad we cant... we could use some 2nd rounders back!![/quote]

We could use some any rounders...

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Under no circumstance would I not draft the positions that we need. But, let's just say for the purpose of this thread, Peria Jerry or Quinn Johnson.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;538658]I have a question for those of you who have seen Sidbury play more than I have: Do you think he could play SLB in our system?[/quote]Yes.

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[quote=GTripp0012;538729]Yes.[/quote]

Thanks! I'll trust you on that.

Then I hope the Skins are taking a close look at Sidbury for our 3rd Round pick because he is a great athlete and one heckuva football player. We know he can rush the passer and if he can cover as well he could be a solid SLB.

BTW, Connor Barwin would be a great pick here but, for purposes of this thread, I'm assuming that he'll go in the 2nd Round.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;538740]Thanks! I'll trust you on that.

Then I hope the Skins are taking a close look at Sidbury for our 3rd Round pick because he is a great athlete and one heckuva football player. We know he can rush the passer and if he can cover as well he could be a solid SLB.

BTW, Connor Barwin would be a great pick here but, for purposes of this thread, I'm assuming that he'll go in the 2nd Round.[/quote]

He could well go in the 1st, but he plays DE. Unless you wanted to draft him as a TE and then surreptitiously move him to DE at training camp. Very tricky.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;538749]He could well go in the 1st, but he plays DE. Unless you wanted to draft him as a TE and then surreptitiously move him to DE at training camp. Very tricky.[/quote]

I assume you're talking about Barwin. My thought was to move Barwin to SLB. He's a great athlete who should be able to make the move.

You really think he's worked his way into the 1st Round? If so, good for him!

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;538752]I assume you're talking about Barwin. My thought was to move Barwin to SLB. He's a great athlete who should be able to make the move.

You really think he's worked his way into the 1st Round? If so, good for him![/quote]

I really just meant that for purposes of this thread he wouldn't work given his position, whether or not he is a 1st round prospect.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;538761]I really just meant that for purposes of this thread he wouldn't work given his position, whether or not he is a 1st round prospect.[/quote]

Oh, [B]now[/B] I get it! Doh, I plumb forgot what we were talking about. Yeah, good idea: now he's magically a TE. Sidbury, too.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;538763]Oh, [B]now[/B] I get it! Doh, I plumb forgot what we were talking about. Yeah, good idea: now he's magically a TE. Sidbury, too.[/quote]

Barwin played TE before playing DE.

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Trade down with the Colts for their 27th pick, their 3rd round pick this year, and their 2010 3rd and 5th round picks. With the 27th pick--select Pat White from WVU. He becomes your PR/KR and hedge if Campbell stinks this year. Then he battles Colt next year for the starting job or replaces ARE as your 3rd WR...

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[quote=NYCSkin;538776]Trade down with the Colts for their 27th pick, their 3rd round pick this year, and their 2010 3rd and 5th round picks. With the 27th pick--select Pat White from WVU. He becomes your PR/KR and hedge if Campbell stinks this year. Then he battles Colt next year for the starting job or replaces ARE as your 3rd WR...[/quote]Is it really a battle when Colt is involved? Couldn't we just call it a submission?