Zorn says no on Cutler, talks Haynesworth, Hall and '09 hopes
 

Pretty solid interview with Mark Maske from the Post.. A couple of key excerpts-

[quote=Mark Maske]Coach Jim Zorn said today that the Washington Redskins are not pursuing a trade for Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler. Zorn said at this morning's NFC coaches' breakfast at the annual league meeting that the Redskins are not among the teams that have expressed interest in Cutler to the Broncos.

Zorn said he has not felt the need to reassure his own quarterback, Jason Campbell, that the Redskins are committed to him. Asked if he has spoken to Campbell about the reports of the Redskins' interest in Cutler, Zorn said: "Not specifically."

But Zorn said he's made it clear to Campbell that the club is committed to him as its starter.[/quote]

[quote=Mark Maske]You'd love to have an endless supply of money. But we competed very hard for Albert [Haynesworth] and secured him, and then feel that he's really going to help us. From my perspective, it's like starting at ground zero, the foundation, and he's right there in the trench of the defense. I think if you personally would go and look at his video, the things that he does--what he did last year, what he's done in his past--he really does create problems in several areas.

I think one of the big signing for us was DeAngelo Hall, and he goes right along with Albert because of his ability to play man coverage. I think getting him allows us to continue to play man coverage when we want to because that's part of our game. And I think he's going to excel this year as well.[/quote]

[quote=Mark Maske]Is the Haynesworth signing a signal that the Redskins feel this is their year to win the division?

"I thought we could win it last year. I think every coach goes into a season, especially in the beginning, and says, 'I think we can.' You're not injured. You feel great about yourself. You don't have a loss. You don't really know what you've got.... It's a dogfight [in the NFC East] for every inch of ground you're trying to defend and every inch of ground you're trying to get.[/quote]

Full story link- [url=http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2009/03/zorn-says-redskins-remain-committed-to-campbell.html]NFL News Feed: Zorn Says He's Committed to Campbell - The League at washingtonpost.com[/url]

Can we kill the Cutler talk now?

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No, we can't kill the Cutler talk now. A head coach lying about interest in a player -- UNPOSSIBLE. The NFL is full of smoke screens. If our FO got a decent chance at Cutler, I bet they'd make the move in a heart beat. Also, read his comments closely, no where did he say we wouldn't be interested in Cutler. He said we're not 'asking' about him.

I think the chances of us getting Cutler are slim -- but I don't think we're out of the picture by any stretch of the imagination.

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unpossible aint a word, and you aint going to use it.

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The most damning quote to show Romo Jr's worshippers who cite the old conspiracy theory.[QUOTE]
If Vinny Cerrato and Dan Snyder came to you and asked if you were interested in pursuing Cutler, would you say yes?

"First of all, Vinny and Dan wouldn't come to me. We would always be together on an issue. I think every coach in the National Football League would go, 'Man, what is this all about? What if Denver approached us?' But that conversation hasn't gone anywhere except 'Monday Morning Quarterback' talk."[/QUOTE]

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Campbell is our quarterback fellaz. Let crybaby Cutler go to some other team.

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Great article. Nice find Paintrain!

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[quote=Daseal;539678]No, we can't kill the Cutler talk now. A head coach lying about interest in a player -- UNPOSSIBLE. The NFL is full of smoke screens. If our FO got a decent chance at Cutler, I bet they'd make the move in a heart beat. Also, read his comments closely, no where did he say we wouldn't be interested in Cutler. He said we're not 'asking' about him.

I think the chances of us getting Cutler are slim -- but I don't think we're out of the picture by any stretch of the imagination.[/quote]
[quote=maske]Have the Redskins expressed interest in Cutler to the Broncos?

"No, we have not."[/quote]
it doesn't get clearer in the NFL

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Cutler is not going to happen, please give it up folks.

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It does appear at this point Cutler to the Redskins is a pipe dream... Honestly. BUT, in this league, and with our front office, ANYTHING can happen!... You never know down the road, during\after the season, if the situation arises, that The Redskins may have\take the oppertunity to aquire Cutler...?

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Sure there is also a chance I could spontaneously combust right now. You guys are taking this "anything can happen" too far. Cutler isn't gonna be a skin.

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I think Cutler being our QB is only slightly more likely than Matty lining up at QB1 with me and Smootsmack stacked in the I behind him for the Redskins. Give it up peeps.

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As much as we have hated many of Snyder's blunders, he is no Jerry Jones when it comes to being a dysfunctional owner. And if you don't believe, well tell me with a straight face that [URL="http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-6-446/Jerry-lifts-gag-order-on-Phillips----for-a-day.html"]THIS[/URL] would happen here in Washington ([URL="http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nflnation/0-6-446/Jerry-lifts-gag-order-on-Phillips----for-a-day.html"]JJ allowing Wade to "speak"[/URL]). I believe that Snyder nor VC would throw Zorn under the bus by doing a Cutler trade. If you don't want to believe this, well then you are delusional.

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[quote]unpossible aint a word, and you aint going to use it.[/quote]
Good to see the Simpsons reference wasn't lost on you.

[quote] Originally Posted by Daseal View Post
No, we can't kill the Cutler talk now. A head coach lying about interest in a player -- UNPOSSIBLE. The NFL is full of smoke screens. If our FO got a decent chance at Cutler, I bet they'd make the move in a heart beat. Also, read his comments closely, no where did he say we wouldn't be interested in Cutler. He said we're not 'asking' about him.

I think the chances of us getting Cutler are slim -- but I don't think we're out of the picture by any stretch of the imagination.
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Originally Posted by maske
Have the Redskins expressed interest in Cutler to the Broncos?

"No, we have not."
it doesn't get clearer in the NFL[/quote]

Just like when Vinny says we're not interested in Albert Haynesworth? That was pretty clear. You can't trust a word these guys said, and if you read my post you'd understand why I made said statement. I think that in the end the Broncos price will be too high (or they won't end up trading him) but don't act like because we haven't contacted the Broncos (something that has been disputed by many people, by the way. Sources in Denver and DC have said we've contacted the Broncos) that doesn't mean we aren't interested.

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VC is the GM, and conducting deals. JZ has not shown anywhere near the same deftness with skilled adjudication of elicited facts. He was asked a straightforward question, and gave a straightforward answer.

people just gotta let it go.

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Daseal just curious what reliable sources have confirmed any contact between the Redskins and Broncos?? I haven't heard that from any reliable source such as Adam Schefter or John Clayton. JLC also says he has heard absolutely nothing.

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[quote=FRPLG;539699]I think Cutler being our QB is only slightly more likely than Matty lining up at QB1 with me and Smootsmack stacked in the I behind him for the Redskins. Give it up peeps.[/quote]

And people think the Skins offense sucked last year... wait til they get a load of us!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;539709]VC is the GM, and conducting deals. JZ has not shown anywhere near the same deftness with skilled adjucation of elicited facts. [B] He was asked a straightforward question, and gave a straightforward answer.[/B]

people just gotta let it go.[/quote]

I don't doubt what Zorn says at all. One of the criticisms about him was he was too forthcoming with his honesty about things.

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[quote=Mattyk72;539711]And people think the Skins offense sucked last year... wait til they get a load of us![/quote]

We better have a damn good line. :)

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[quote=53Fan;539715]We better have a damn good line. :)[/quote]

Don't worry I'm known for having a quick release

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Matty, perhaps my wording wasn't as accurate as it could have been. Since I don't know the names of the sources, nor does anyone else, it's hard to quantify which are good and which are bad. But there were multiple reports of league sources. I heard the same things on ESPN, Sirius NFL radio, and a quick google search brought up several articles.

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[quote=Mattyk72;539719]Don't worry I'm known for having a quick release[/quote]

:laughing2 I'm not gonna say a word.

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[quote=Mattyk72;539719]Don't worry I'm known for having a quick release[/quote]

That's what she said.

Re: Zorn says no on Cutler, talks Haynesworth, Hall and '09 hopes
 

[quote=waldskins;539726]that's what she said.[/quote]
zing!

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[quote=Daseal;539678]No, we can't kill the Cutler talk now. A head coach lying about interest in a player -- UNPOSSIBLE. The NFL is full of smoke screens. If our FO got a decent chance at Cutler, I bet they'd make the move in a heart beat. Also, read his comments closely, no where did he say we wouldn't be interested in Cutler. He said we're not 'asking' about him.

I think the chances of us getting Cutler are slim -- but I don't think we're out of the picture by any stretch of the imagination.[/quote]

I wouldn't blame you for doubting Redskins FO, but if you are right; we trade for Cutler with our picks (obviously we won't trade JC due to Zorn's comments).. Cutler then would be riding bench as #2 QB because Zorn basically said that JC is our starter..

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What team would acknowledge interest in another QB knowing that if the trade doesn't pan out they would create a QB drama situation with thier current starter? We all know the chances of Cutler being traded anywhere are low let alone to DC...but to think that the skins are not interested just because Zorn or Vinny say so is gullable and laughable. The fact alone that the redskins have not made any contract offer to JC means that they are not completely sold on him long term so if that's the case wouldn't it be reasonable to think that they would at least look into what it would take to land Cutler? The skins may very well not be interested in Cutler, but my point is that they would deny interest regardless.

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Cutler's going to the Jets (not the Redskins) on draft day. BANK ON IT!!

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[quote=GridIron26;539739]I wouldn't blame you for doubting Redskins FO, but if you are right; we trade for Cutler with our picks (obviously we won't trade JC due to Zorn's comments).. Cutler then would be riding bench as #2 QB because Zorn basically said that JC is our starter..[/quote]

I am sure Zorn meant JC is the starter over the other QB's currently on the roster. And besides if the unlikely Cutler trade took place then Campbell would either be traded as part of that deal or he would be shipped somewhere else in a seperate trade for a draft pick. They would never acquire Cutler to ride the bench and they would never ask Campbell to stay and ride the bench behind Cutler.

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We weren't going to get Jason Taylor or Albert Haynesworth either.

But in all honesty, we're not getting Cutler.

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[quote=Mattyk72;539719]Don't worry I'm known for having a quick release[/quote]

My condolences to your woman :p

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[quote=celts32;539743][B]I am sure Zorn meant JC is the starter over the other QB's currently on the roster.[/B] And besides if the unlikely Cutler trade took place then Campbell would either be traded as part of that deal or he would be shipped somewhere else in a seperate trade for a draft pick. [B]They would never acquire Cutler to ride the bench and they would never ask Campbell to stay and ride the bench behind Cutler.[/B][/quote]

Zorn might meant that way, but I doubt it..

That's exactly what I'm trying to say.. I find it hard to believe that Redskins are willing to waste our picks, especially when we have pressing needs to fill in positions such as RT, DE and LB..

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[quote=WaldSkins;539726]That's what she said.[/quote]
damn, you beat me to it.. i was gonna say that first but changed my mind ha

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[quote=celts32;539743][B]I am sure Zorn meant JC is the starter over the other QB's currently on the roster[/B]. And besides if the unlikely Cutler trade took place then Campbell would either be traded as part of that deal or he would be shipped somewhere else in a seperate trade for a draft pick. They would never acquire Cutler to ride the bench and they would never ask Campbell to stay and ride the bench behind Cutler.[/quote]

You're sure of that huh? And you're sure Zorn would lie if they were interested in Cutler? We're not talking about Vinny here. I think Zorn has learned not to go so in depth about questions because he's so honest and some things are better left unsaid, but he was asked a direct question and he didn't beat around the bush, he gave a direct answer. He didn't try to evade the question. I don't think he's a liar. I don't think his priorities are to put football first if you know what I mean. If that makes me gullible than I guess I'm gullible but I'm surely not jaded about Zorn because of the way Vinny does his job. But I guess I know Zorn about as well as you do, so who knows? I guess my perspective of the man is different than yours. I've seen no reason to doubt his word. Vinny? Yes. Zorn? Not from what I've seen so far.

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I don't think we are going to get Cutler anyway because Denver's not going to trade him. I do believe that Campbell will be gone after next season! I like Campbell but he just doesn't fit our system, and if we don't get much better on offense this season than it may happen before the season is over. (Also we did work out Sanchez today, that tells you something)

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Pfft, Zorn has his input. They're running the show by committee. That direct quote in my post on the first page pretty much proves it.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;539759]I don't think we are going to get Cutler anyway because [B]Denver's not going to trade him[/B]. I do believe that Campbell will be gone after next season! I like Campbell but he just doesn't fit our system, and if we don't get much better on offense this season than it may happen before the season is over. (Also we did work out Sanchez today, that tells you something)[/quote]

Denver's going to trade him. McDainels went behind Cutler (an all pro QB)
and tried to trade him, then was dumb enough to think it wouldn't get back to Cutler. This relationship is too far to change.

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[quote=vallin21;539762]Denver's going to trade him. McDainels went behind Cutler (an all pro QB)
and tried to trade him, then was dumb enough to think it wouldn't get back to Cutler. This relationship is too far to change.[/quote]

It's said that it wasn't McDaniels that initiated the talks.. he had to have known and preferred it though.. and just him not initiating doesn't mean it wasn't his idea I guess either

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[quote=Mattyk72;539711]And people think the Skins offense sucked last year... wait til they get a load of us![/quote]
Hey. I chip like a mf'er. Portis would be proud.

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I don't get what the freaking obsession is with this guy. Yeah, he is all pro and probably one of the best young QB's in the league. We do not have the ability to trade for him, and even if we did, what signal would that send to the rest of the team? After saying JC's job is safe we should just drop it. A team's cohesiveness is vital to a winning season. Trading for Cutler would throw a monkey wrench in the whole system!!

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Cutler isn't going anywhere. It's just not going to happen so everyone can drop it already. It's March and his feelings got hurt. In the end he'll get to off season work outs and all this will be done with.

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[quote=vallin21;539762]Denver's going to trade him. McDainels went behind Cutler (an all pro QB)
and tried to trade him, then was dumb enough to think it wouldn't get back to Cutler. This relationship is too far to change.[/quote]

I dont think so man, they want a QB in return and no one has a GOOD QB to give them.. We just need to quit wishing for Cutler (I know i want him as our qb).