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Eknox 04-01-2009 06:28 PM

If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
I heard on Profootballtalk that we were goin for the one to punch what do you think? I have to say it's intriguing, although I'm not a big Shanahan fan.

Ruhskins 04-01-2009 06:31 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541296][B]I heard on Profootballtalk[/B] that we were goin for the one to punch what do you think? I have to say it's intriguing, although I'm not a big Shanahan fan.[/quote]

This is mistake #1, and why don't you wait until an actual trade happens before you start speculating this, ok?

wilsowilso 04-01-2009 06:33 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
Good one. I needed that.

Eknox 04-01-2009 06:35 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;541298]This is mistake #1, and why don't you wait until an actual trade happens before you start speculating this, ok?[/quote]
:cussing: wow didn't mean to offend anyone..
Mods if this is going to cause this kind of reaction please close this thread, I don't want to cause any problems with anyone, Very sorry for the speculation.

GMScud 04-01-2009 06:37 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
This site is annoying me lately.

God forbid we give Campbell more than one season in a system and Zorn more than one year to improve on an 8-8 rookie campaign in the league's toughest division.

The lack of patience and foresight is silly as hell.

People scream to build through the draft, improve the lines, develop Campbell, yada yada yada. So now that we're doing just that, we've got droves of fans asking for us to revert to our losing ways - shipping off draft picks and big dollars for flashy names.

Continuity and character count people.

Eknox 04-01-2009 06:42 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=GMScud;541302]This site is annoying me lately.

God forbid we give Campbell more than one season in a system and Zorn more than one year to improve on an 8-8 rookie campaign in the league's toughest division.

The lack of patience and foresight is silly as hell.

People scream to build through the draft, improve the lines, develop Campbell, yada yada yada. So now that we're doing just that, we've got droves of fans asking for us to revert to our losing ways - shipping off draft picks and big dollars for flashy names.

Continuity and character count people.[/quote]

Dude, I like Campbell I think that he will be very good this year, I was just asking the question because people are pretty much saying that Cutler will end up here , and then ther is talk about Shanahan also, the last time we heard talk like this it was Haynesworth, and where is he ? again I am very sorry to offend anyone, but I never send messages like this to someone if I don't agree with it I just move on..SOOOooooooooooooo Once Again I Am Verrrrry SORRRRYYYYYYY MEN. PLEASE GIVE A GUY A FRECKING BREAK SORRY SORRY SORRY MODS PLEASE HELP

hooskins 04-01-2009 06:46 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
We are already talking about this in the other thread, do we really need this?

SkinzzFan 04-01-2009 06:46 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=GMScud;541302]This site is annoying me lately.

God forbid we give Campbell more than one season in a system and Zorn more than one year to improve on an 8-8 rookie campaign in the league's toughest division.

The lack of patience and foresight is silly as hell.

People scream to build through the draft, improve the lines, develop Campbell, yada yada yada. So now that we're doing just that, we've got droves of fans asking for us to revert to our losing ways - shipping off draft picks and big dollars for flashy names.

Continuity and character count people.[/quote]

Amen to that! I've been saying the same thing all along. We're not Philly fans...we're better than that. Yet, the tone lately has sounded very Eagle-ish.

BOTTOM LINE:
Campbell is a tough football player who lets nothing bother him. Cutler is a bitch. Which one do you want? The end.

What has Shanahan done since Elway retired anyway?

HAIL!

GusFrerotte 04-01-2009 06:46 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=GMScud;541302]This site is annoying me lately.

God forbid we give Campbell more than one season in a system and Zorn more than one year to improve on an 8-8 rookie campaign in the league's toughest division.

The lack of patience and foresight is silly as hell.

People scream to build through the draft, improve the lines, develop Campbell, yada yada yada. So now that we're doing just that, we've got droves of fans asking for us to revert to our losing ways - shipping off draft picks and big dollars for flashy names.

Continuity and character count people.[/quote]

I agree with what you are saying. Getting Cutler would cost us a lot, and JC is a stand up guy, but I think we have already seen the most we will get out of him. That is why I kill GTripp and co with the Frerotte comparisons. Not really comparing the QBs but the situation. I was always hoping Gus would turn some corner, same with Patrick, but after a few seasons(Patrick got ganked) you know what you are going to get for the long haul. I just don't see us being a perennial contender unless JC does surprise us and really does have a breakout year for us. But the odds of that happening are long.

GMScud 04-01-2009 06:46 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541303]Dude, I like Campbell I think that he will be very good this year, I was just asking the question because people are pretty much saying that Cutler will end up here , and then ther is talk about Shanahan also, the last time we heard talk like this it was Haynesworth, and where is he ? again I am very sorry to offend anyone, but I never send messages like this to someone if I don't agree with it I just move on..SOOOooooooooooooo Once Again I Am Verrrrry SORRRRYYYYYYY MEN. PLEASE GIVE A GUY A FRECKING BREAK SORRY SORRY SORRY MODS PLEASE HELP[/quote]

1) I'm not offended

2) I wasn't singling you out, notice I said "fans" - there are plenty of people around here asking for Cutler, Shanahan, etc, etc

3) If you start a thread like this and ask for opinions, well, you're going to get them.

GusFrerotte 04-01-2009 06:50 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
I don't see us dropping Zorn or JC after all this talk about JC being our QB, etc. Everyone would deem Danny and Vinny total nutjobs if they did it. That being said, if they were crazy enough to do it before the draft would be the only time to do it, but the big question is why? Sure Shanahan has a couple rings, but he coached a loaded team in a weak ass division. Hard to lose with Elway, Sharpe, Davis, and co.

wilsowilso 04-01-2009 06:50 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541303]SOOOooooooooooooo Once Again I Am Verrrrry SORRRRYYYYYYY MEN. PLEASE GIVE A GUY A FRECKING BREAK SORRY SORRY SORRY MODS PLEASE HELP[/quote]

Good one. I needed that.

Eknox 04-01-2009 06:51 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=GMScud;541308]1) I'm not offended

2) I wasn't singling you out, notice I said "fans" - there are plenty of people around here asking for Cutler, Shanahan, etc, etc

3) If you start a thread like this and ask for opinions, well, you're going to get them.[/quote]

I have no problem with opinions (that's what a forum is for) I have problem when my character is questioned. No offense

rbanerjee23 04-01-2009 06:51 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=GMScud;541302]This site is annoying me lately.

God forbid we give Campbell more than one season in a system and Zorn more than one year to improve on an 8-8 rookie campaign in the league's toughest division.

The lack of patience and foresight is silly as hell.

People scream to build through the draft, improve the lines, develop Campbell, yada yada yada. So now that we're doing just that, we've got droves of fans asking for us to revert to our losing ways - shipping off draft picks and big dollars for flashy names.

Continuity and character count people.[/quote]

exactly all the dips***s who think that campbell is not the quarterback of the future clearly don't know what they are talking about. If you think about it, he has been a phenomenal quarterback, always being above average despite having played three different systems in his 4 years in the league. That's a lot more than can be said of most of the quarterbacks in the league. You have to give a young qb time and giving him anything less than 2 years in the system is unfair.

GMScud 04-01-2009 06:54 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541311]I have no problem with opinions (that's what a forum is for) I have problem [B]when my character is questioned. [/B]No offense[/quote]

LOL!! Come on dude are you serious?

I wasn't questioning your character. When I said continuity and character count, I was referring to having good leaders in the locker room (i.e. Campbell, NOT Cutler) and giving a coach and a system more than one year to succeed.

We were 8-8 last year, not 4-12.

MTK 04-01-2009 06:55 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
Definitely.

The best thing we can do is to dump JC now, get Cutler in here, and just shake up the entire coaching staff and bring in Shanahan only weeks before the draft.

Brilliant F'ing idea!

GusFrerotte 04-01-2009 06:56 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541296]I heard on Profootballtalk that we were goin for the one to punch what do you think? I have to say it's intriguing, although I'm not a big Shanahan fan.[/quote]


Ah dude I think you need to go back to the sight and read what it said on the homepage. One of the articles they said was an April Fools Joke and they were seeing if you could figure it out.

wilsowilso 04-01-2009 06:56 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;541315]Definitely.

The best thing we can do is to dump JC now, get Cutler in here, and just shake up the entire coaching staff and bring in Shanahan only weeks before the draft.

Brilliant F'ing idea![/quote]

Was that the Mod help you were looking for?

Not trying to be mean, but you asked for it.

Eknox 04-01-2009 06:58 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;541313]exactly all the dips***s who think that campbell is not the quarterback of the future clearly don't know what they are talking about. If you think about it, he has been a phenomenal quarterback, always being above average despite having played three different systems in his 4 years in the league. That's a lot more than can be said of most of the quarterbacks in the league. You have to give a young qb time and giving him anything less than 2 years in the system is unfair.[/quote]
Wow I never said I liked Cutler In the post about Cutler being available when this first broke I wrote F Cutler he hasn't done Sh_t..So now I'm called a dips***s for asking a question..Guys I'm really trying to be the bigger person here.:confused-

GusFrerotte 04-01-2009 06:58 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;541313]exactly all the dips***s who think that campbell is not the quarterback of the future clearly don't know what they are talking about. If you think about it, he has been a phenomenal quarterback, always being above average despite having played three different systems in his 4 years in the league. That's a lot more than can be said of most of the quarterbacks in the league. You have to give a young qb time and giving him anything less than 2 years in the system is unfair.[/quote]


It is all in the mechanics. If you can't get that down, the system doesn't matter.

GMScud 04-01-2009 07:01 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541318]Wow I never said I liked Cutler In the post about Cutler being available when this first broke I wrote F Cutler he hasn't done Sh_t..So now I'm called a dips***s for asking a question..Guys I'm really trying to be the bigger person here.:confused-[/quote]

I have a piece of advice for you - when you start a thread, don't take every negative post as a personal attack. More often than not it's directed at the subject matter, not the thread-starter.

Eknox 04-01-2009 07:02 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
Ughhhhhh I guess I couldn't live this one down even if I tried to pass it off as an April Fool..Jokes on me hugh lol

Eknox 04-01-2009 07:03 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=GMScud;541321]I have a piece of advice for you - when you start a thread, don't take every negative post as a personal attack. More often than not it's directed at the subject matter, not the thread-starter.[/quote]

touche'

wilsowilso 04-01-2009 07:04 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541322]Ughhhhhh I guess I couldn't live this one down even if I tried to pass it off as an April Fool..Jokes on me hugh lol[/quote]

There you go. Well played.

WaldSkins 04-01-2009 07:06 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541318]Wow I never said I liked Cutler In the post about Cutler being available when this first broke I wrote F Cutler he hasn't done Sh_t..So now I'm called a dips***s for asking a question..Guys I'm really trying to be the bigger person here.:confused-[/quote]

I think the best thing you can do is just stop defending yourself. You came out and stated your opinion, so just stick with it.

wilsowilso 04-01-2009 07:12 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
There is considerable frustration with this whole Cutler issue and seeing as how it's April Fool's and nobody has a clue what is really going on it's a tough environment to sell a new thread about a wild speculation.

WaldSkins 04-01-2009 07:16 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=wilsowilso;541333]There is considerable frustration with this whole Cutler issue and seeing as how it's April Fool's and nobody has a clue what is really going on it's a tough environment to sell a new thread about a wild speculation.[/quote]

So you're telling me this isn't a good time to start my Bring back Mark Brunell thread?

70Chip 04-01-2009 07:21 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=WaldSkins;541334]So you're telling me this isn't a good time to start my Bring back Mark Brunell thread?[/quote]

What we need is a Ramsey vs. Brunell thread that then veers onto the topic of whether Lavar's knees will ever heal.

The Goat 04-01-2009 07:24 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
Like another said this site is giving me aches and pains... can we please put a rest to the idea that Zorn/Campbell will be replaced this year. This is idiotic.

MiraclesHappen07 04-01-2009 07:26 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=WaldSkins;541334]So you're telling me this isn't a good time to start my Bring back Mark Brunell thread?[/quote]

lol nahh not at all man! BUt seriously im not even sure what to say with all this, for all i know this could be a bunch of b.s, then on then on the other hand who knows!? I know this is has been brought up before, but its the only thing i can think of that is smiliar to this. Everyone said Haynesworth wasn't coming here and now he is. SO it could be the same two step with Cutler, and i wouldnt be surprised with Shanahan ethier considering our Front O's track record...

seriously im waiting for someone to say april fools...

Eknox 04-01-2009 07:30 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=MiraclesHappen07;541341]lol nahh not at all man! BUt seriously im not even sure what to say with all this, for all i know this could be a bunch of b.s, then on then on the other hand who knows!? I know this is has been brought up before, but its the only thing i can think of that is smiliar to this. Everyone said Haynesworth wasn't coming here and now he is. SO it could be the same two step with Cutler, and i wouldnt be surprised with Shanahan ethier considering our Front O's track record...

seriously im waiting for someone to say april fools...[/quote]

this guy totally understands what I'm saying..only worded much much better

MiraclesHappen07 04-01-2009 07:33 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541343]this guy totally understands what I'm saying..only worded much much better[/quote]

Gracias (dont think i even spelled that right haha) :food-smil

GusFrerotte 04-01-2009 07:39 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=Eknox;541343]this guy totally understands what I'm saying..only worded much much better[/quote]
Well the Denver Post article seems legit, but is the writer in on the joke? Not saying it couldn't happen dude, but Danny would look like a toatl ass if he cut Campbell and Zorn after all the stuff that has been said this past offseason.

GMScud 04-01-2009 07:39 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=70Chip;541338]What we need is a Ramsey vs. Brunell thread that then veers onto the topic of whether Lavar's knees will ever heal.[/quote]

Seriously. I mean, after spending a year in Denver as Cutler's backup, there's no question Ramsey is better suited to run the WCO than Jason Campbell. Not to mention I hear the best solution to solve our LB issues is to bring Lavar, Trotter, and Armstead out of retirement and reunite the "best LB trio" in Skins history. Hail!

GusFrerotte 04-01-2009 07:41 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=GMScud;541347]Seriously. I mean, after spending a year in Denver as Cutler's backup, there's no question Ramsey is better suited to run the WCO than Jason Campbell. Not to mention I hear the best solution to solve our LB issues is to bring Lavar, Trotter, and Armstead out of retirement and reunite the "best LB trio" in Skins history. Hail![/quote]


Dislikes absurdity huh? Where the f*&^ have you been? We have Dan Snyder as our owner!!!!!!!! Absurdity is his middle name!!!!!

MiraclesHappen07 04-01-2009 07:41 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
Yea and i was watching Nfl live and they were saying that Redskins are the major front runners right now for Cutler. BUt honestly i hope not, i want to stick with campbell and have draft picks with what we have and draft some damn young talent for our young deprivd team!!! lol

Still waiting for that aprils fools!!...o_O

GTripp0012 04-01-2009 07:46 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
Snyder's not stupid, but the problem comes if the Broncos say they are willing to take on Jason Campbell as the primary object in the trade. As soon as that happens, you can watch Bowlen start to suck draft picks out of Snyder, beginning with the 13th pick.

And if Denver doesn't want Campbell, then there's no way this trade gets done with us anyway. We may be interested, but if they don't like Campbell at least as much as we do, there's no way we outbid anyone else.

NM Redskin 04-01-2009 07:48 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
If it happens that we do get Cutler, Id hope we'd stick with Zorn.

GusFrerotte 04-01-2009 07:48 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
[quote=MiraclesHappen07;541349]Yea and i was watching Nfl live and they were saying that Redskins are the major front runners right now for Cutler. BUt honestly i hope not, i want to stick with campbell and have draft picks with what we have and draft some damn young talent for our young deprivd team!!! lol

Still waiting for that aprils fools!!...o_O[/quote]


Only way we are going to turn the corner even if JC doesn't get resigned after next season. Keep the picks, hope Jason does go against the trend with our previous young post Rypien Qbs and does indeed turn the corner so to speak. Even if he doesn't we can either try MR Hawaii out or draft one of the whiz kids coming out in 2010.

GTripp0012 04-01-2009 07:49 PM

Re: If we get Cutler should we hire Shanahan ?
 
But notice how I'm exonerating Vinny from all blame here. He's not going to sign off on dealing Jason Campbell. Not going to happen. He has way too much football sense for that.

Any interest, perceived or real, is coming from sources close to Snyder, and over the head of Cerrato and Zorn who truly, legitimately believe these rumors are total B.S. At this point though, there's something to them, whether or not something gets done.


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