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Dirtbag59 04-01-2009 10:10 PM

Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2009/04/01/greg-blache-talks-winning-frogs-and-strongside-linebackers/#continued]Greg Blache Talks Winning, Frogs, and Strongside Linebackers[/url]

Honestly I really like the idea. That would allow us to continue to groom Blades as a MLB.

GridIron26 04-01-2009 10:15 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
ah SmootSmacks, u were right.. I like the idea, as well.. What I didn't realize is that M. Washington shares similar physical, just like with Jason Taylor..

backrow 04-01-2009 10:16 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;541451][url=http://blog.redskins.com/2009/04/01/greg-blache-talks-winning-frogs-and-strongside-linebackers/#continued]Greg Blache Talks Winning, Frogs, and Strongside Linebackers[/url]

Honestly I really like the idea. That would allow us to continue to groom Blades as a MLB.[/quote]

Honestly, I really like the idea of winning as well. Frogs, well, I've eaten their little legs before. Chris Wilson at LB, well, that could work, but............

The Goat 04-01-2009 10:18 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
Basically Blache is acknowledging that when we trade every pick over the next two years for Cutler there won't be any hope of getting more talent on defense... so he has to make do. Psshh.

skinsnut 04-01-2009 10:20 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
This experiment is a stretch.
Wilson is nothing more than an undersized pass rush specialist

MTK 04-01-2009 11:08 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
Hey why not

The Goat 04-01-2009 11:12 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
I'd take Marcus back over Wilson @ LB...

wait a tick, how can we think of anything but the offense and losing JC right now :(

NM Redskin 04-01-2009 11:17 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=The Goat;541516]I'd take Marcus back over Wilson @ LB...

wait a tick, [B]how can we think of anything but the offense and losing JC right now[/B] :([/quote]

Dont know about you but i need this thread lol.

tryfuhl 04-01-2009 11:18 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=skinsnut;541462]This experiment is a stretch.
Wilson is nothing more than an undersized pass rush specialist[/quote]
I imagine we'll try it out in camp and probably preseason too.. what's it hurt? smaller DEs often get moved to OLB

skinsnut 04-01-2009 11:23 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=tryfuhl;541524]I imagine we'll try it out in camp and probably preseason too.. what's it hurt? smaller DEs often get moved to OLB[/quote]


It certainly wont hurt much, but to teach an old dog new tricks is different than converting a drafted rookie from DE to OLB.

My gut is telling me this aint gunna work, but it is worth a shot, I like Wilson.

The thing that is scary is that it has come to this.
What we need is a real OLB and a real DE not someone who plays one on TV

tryfuhl 04-01-2009 11:25 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=skinsnut;541532]It certainly wont hurt much, but to teach an old dog new tricks is different than converting a drafted rookie from DE to OLB.

My gut is telling me this aint gunna work, but it is worth a shot, I like Wilson.

The thing that is scary is that it has come to this.
What we need is a real OLB and a real DE not someone who plays one on TV[/quote]

He said he's played it before.. I don't know at what level though. Pretty sure he was DE in the CFL

Hamoskinz 04-01-2009 11:46 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
Good. He adds another dimension to our pass rush from the OLB position but can he cover is the million $ question.

mrreddman 04-01-2009 11:47 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
I really like the move. He does not seem like he will get too much time at DE now with Carter, Daniels, Wynn(errrr), Jackson, Buzbee and whoever else they add. And he is similiar in style and stature to Jason Taylor and MW. They were gonna play JT at LB on 1st and 2nd down and DE on 3rd, so why cant they try the same thing with Wilson? Really...what other options do we have? Fincher? Blades?....maybe Cambpell? If we dont draft Rey or resign MW, I think Wilson is the best option we currently have.

an23dy 04-02-2009 01:17 AM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=mrreddman;541568]If we dont draft Rey or resign MW, I think Wilson is the best option we currently have.[/quote]

And if we don't take Suisham or Rayner, I think Phillip Daniels is the best option we currently have at kicker (I heard they snuck a spring in his knee during his surgery).
I think an LB that's been playing LB for his whole career will be better than a guy that just switched. I think Fincher or Campbell would be better, but I would like to see Wilson in there too, but have him be blitzing at least half the time, or he could line up at DE and drop into coverage and have a LB blitz from someplace else. I feel like Blache gets too simple with the D which is why we don't cause havoc and cause turnovers like how the Ravens and Steelers are always mixing up defenses with their pre-snap alignments. Yes, they run the 3-4 so it's different, but I'm getting tired of the bend and don't break, we need to mix things up a little more. In general I'm real happy with the defense, but you gotta complain about something.

SmootSmack 04-02-2009 01:21 AM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=GridIron26;541456]ah SmootSmacks, u were right.. I like the idea, as well.. What I didn't realize is that M. Washington shares similar physical, just like with Jason Taylor..[/quote]

In fairness, I think JoeRedskin may have been the very first to suggest this

tryfuhl 04-02-2009 01:24 AM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=SmootSmack;541688]In fairness, I think JoeRedskin may have been the very first to suggest this[/quote]

damnit, when did original ideas start counting here?

I'M BACK TO ES!!!

diehard 04-02-2009 10:39 AM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
No use. He can't cover.

celts32 04-02-2009 10:41 AM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
It can't hurt...long as they figure out before September if it's a mistake.

over the mountain 04-03-2009 12:44 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=mrreddman;541568]I really like the move. He does not seem like he will get too much time at DE now with Carter, Daniels, Wynn(errrr), Jackson, Buzbee and whoever else they add. And he is similiar in style and stature to Jason Taylor and MW. They were gonna play JT at LB on 1st and 2nd down and DE on 3rd, so why cant they try the same thing with Wilson? Really...what other options do we have? Fincher? Blades?....maybe Cambpell? If we dont draft Rey or resign MW, I think Wilson is the best option we currently have.[/quote]

like everyone else i like the idea of giving chris a shot at olb this preseason. i didnt think of your thought redman of how stacked (with average talent thoo) at DE we are until you mentioned it. yeah he is going to have a hard time getting enough snaps with that log jam.

no matter whom we had cover witten; be it MW, lemar marshall, etc. after 15 yards none of our olbs could cover the guy so why not give wilson a chance. witten is going to get his catches going man against any one of our olbs anyway.

go skins!!

dall-assblows 04-03-2009 02:45 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
FROGS haha so true. I have an idea for OLB...............REY MAGAGAWIA how ever you spell it.................

SmootSmack 04-16-2009 01:40 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
I don't know how I feel about Alexander at DE?

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/apr/16/wilson-alexander-might-shift/]Wilson, Alexander might shift - - Washington Times - Politics, Breaking News, US and World News[/url]

Dirtbag59 04-16-2009 01:45 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=SmootSmack;546405]I don't know how I feel about Alexander at DE?

[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/apr/16/wilson-alexander-might-shift/"]Wilson, Alexander might shift - - Washington Times - Politics, Breaking News, US and World News[/URL][/quote]

I have a saying. The more you spread yourself thin the more things you end up sucking at.

Just kidding, I actually like the idea of using him as an end. God knows he's not going to get much time at DT.

GTripp0012 04-16-2009 01:51 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=SmootSmack;546405]I don't know how I feel about Alexander at DE?

[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/apr/16/wilson-alexander-might-shift/"]Wilson, Alexander might shift - - Washington Times - Politics, Breaking News, US and World News[/URL][/quote]Worth a shot. Trying to get productive guys out of situations where they are blocked is a very sound idea.

diehard 04-16-2009 01:53 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
Wilson did play some LB in college and/or the CFL I believe. He doesn't have a lot of pass rush moves as a DE. I would think he's lacking the agility to cover on the strongside. Only time will tell. The re-signing of Wynn, Daniels, and LB Robert Thomas all point to a much needed stud drafted in the first or second round. Unless the team is secretly planning to switch to the 3-4 with Haynesworth at NT, Golston and Montgomery at DE, and Carter and Wilson at OLB and McIntosh and Fletcher at ILB or some combination of the sort...

The Goat 04-16-2009 01:58 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
Marcus, even w/ his age, would be better than Thomas or Wilson @ LB. Should have bumped him up just a bit from vet min IMO...but oh well.

Kope 04-16-2009 03:40 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
While there is no guarantee this will succeed - I do like the idea of gettting your best 11 athletes on the field at the same time. I am glad to see a little out of the box experimentation...as long as the best defense as a unit hits the field 13 September.

Dream on - Who knows, maybe Wilson is a good enough player the coaches have to find a place to play him.....we would have (/shudder) developed our own talent through the draft (Gasp!) It goes beyond reason to hope Wilson pans out at SAM and Buzbee is a surpize at DE on third down. - Dream off.

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GridIron26 04-16-2009 03:57 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
Alexander as LB? I have hard time imagining that..

As much as I hate to admit it; it appears as if Redskins are preparing as if they are not going to draft a LB (immediately starter, in that case).. If we are not going to draft an offense T and LB, ironically enough, which are our most pressing needs; I guess we can expect FO to draft Sanchez or a DE :confused:

Paintrain 04-16-2009 03:59 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=SmootSmack;546405]I don't know how I feel about Alexander at DE?

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/apr/16/wilson-alexander-might-shift/]Wilson, Alexander might shift - - Washington Times - Politics, Breaking News, US and World News[/url][/quote]

I thought he might be a potential replacement when JLC man-crush Demetric Evans went to SF. If he's part of a rotation he's not going to be any worse than Jackson or Buzbee. He's not going to get many reps with Haynesworth, Griffin, Golston and Montgomery ahead of him at DT. He's a ST beast but he needs to add some more value to hold on to his roster spot.

30gut 04-16-2009 06:07 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=diehard;546417]Wilson did play some LB in college and/or the CFL I believe. He doesn't have a lot of pass rush moves as a DE. I would think he's lacking the agility to cover on the strongside. Only time will tell. The re-signing of Wynn, Daniels, and LB Robert Thomas all point to a much needed stud drafted in the first or second round. Unless the team is secretly planning to switch to the 3-4 with Haynesworth at NT, Golston and Montgomery at DE, and Carter and Wilson at OLB and McIntosh and Fletcher at ILB or some combination of the sort...[/quote]

I like that the coaches are thinking outside the box.

If Wilson and Alexander are in the line-up and an offenses lines up with the stong side opposite Carter it would essentially put us into something 3-4ish, where Carter would be 3-4 Rush LOLB then the Griffin/Monty would be the LDE Haynesworth the NT Alexander the RDE and Wilson the ROLB.

I like the idea, it get Wilsons much needed playing time and it puts Alexander in a postion to play the be the run stopping LDE that Blache's system calls for.
I guess that Alexander would come out on 3rd down and Wilson would shift to DE.

John Denny 04-20-2009 10:42 AM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=SmootSmack;546405]I don't know how I feel about Alexander at DE?

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/apr/16/wilson-alexander-might-shift/]Wilson, Alexander might shift - - Washington Times - Politics, Breaking News, US and World News[/url][/quote]

I liked him as a lineman. He was a valuable extra blocker and could have developed into a starter had they given him a chance.
He's a waste as a DE IMO. He'd be a slow DT playing on the edge where he'd likely generate little to know pass rush. And now that we're stacked at DT, there's no point to having him play there. Move him back to guard and give him a shot. He can't be any worse than Gesinger.

tryfuhl 04-20-2009 11:23 AM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;546408]I have a saying. The more you spread yourself thin the more things you end up sucking at.

Just kidding, I actually like the idea of using him as an end. God knows he's not going to get much time at DT.[/quote]

You kind of have a point though. We love players that play more than one position, but the problem is sometimes we force that on them vs them having that ability for us. Seems sometimes we think that if the position is the same or similar nothing else matters. Turning one type of RB into another, QB, LB, S, OL, DL, etc

Whiteboi_J 04-20-2009 02:55 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
I think this sounds like they're giving up on Wilson as a DE...he ain't put on the weight to be a legit DE and has been in the league for 3 years already. They need an OLB, so they're just rolling the dice...if it doesn't work out, i think he'll get shown the door.

Or is this maybe an omen that we're drafting Ayers at #13? I like that idea better!!

gw0103 04-21-2009 05:01 AM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
Linebacking takes more than the ability to pass rush.
for Wilson to be a good cross over, He would have to
be able to zone protect and man up on fullbacks and TE's.
Maybe if the Skins ran a 3-4 it would work, but in the 4-3
linebackers have too many responsiblilties to be taken so lightly.

Hog1 04-23-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Chris Wilson could get shot at OLB
 
Doc is interviewing him now on espn 980 in DC. He is moving to LB. I believe he said strong side. he apparently has played LB in HS, College. According to him, he approached Blache about it and is happy with the plan..........


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