The image of Redskins fans?
 

What's the "image" of Redskins fans as viewed by outsiders (not just fans of rival teams, but in general) and how does this image differ (if at all) from the general image of Washingtonians and people from the greater metropolitan area?

While many Skins fans have described themselves as "masochists" and "extremely loyal" (many fans of teams that haven't experienced much recent success describe themselves in this manner) I've heard the word "delusional" often used to describe Skins fans from outsiders. What have you heard?

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Good question, I honestly don't know. Skins fans certainly aren't obnoxious in the vein of Eagle fan or Raider fan... and there's a good contingent of the wine and cheese folks at the stadium, there's the image of being in the power town... but I think there's a lot of fans in-between all of that. Skins fans I think are pretty passionate, maybe a little delusional (but what fans aren't? Listen to NFL radio for a little while each day and you'll hear plenty of crazies from every team). Generally speaking I think Skins fans are your typical NFL fan.

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i have heard recently we are getting nastier, due to the lack of success over the last 15 years or so. i've seen fights at Redskins games between Redskins fans, while opposing fans watched and laughed....enough said

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Alcohol + testosterone + football game typically = fights in the stands. Not sure that's a problem exclusive to FedEx.

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Well, all I know is they hate us in Philly (I know it's a rival). I got flicked off (Redskins magnet on the back of my jeep) whilve visiting a friend in Conshohocken, PA. My boy was like, "Take that off of your car when we go into the city or that sh*t will get keyed."

I think they see us as rednecks...cus we are in "the south"...

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Philly fan acting like a tard? Say it ain't so!

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I seriously think we're starting to get a bad image because of Snyder and the FO. I think a lot of fans of other teams see him as a joke and it trickles down to us because he still follow his team, which sucks.

Also, I think a lot of people see DC fans in general as front runners. Just look at the Verizon Center when the Caps/Wizards are doing well vs. when their not. Also, remember how bad the MNF game against the Steelers made us look this past season when FedEx was full of those F'ing yellow hankies.

I know we here don't feel that way and I bet the people that know us personally and know how passion, knowledge, pride, etc for this team don't feel that way, but I think the wider world of NFL fans probably do.

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Whenever a Philly fan talks shit there is always the old standby that never fails and can't be argued.

Skins: 3 Rings
Iggles: 0

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Many non-Redskins fans (and of course, many Redskins fans) still live in the year 2000 and just continously talk about all the money we spent on Deion Sanders, Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier and for what?

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I think some fans are way too pessimistic about the team's situation. Granted that the occasional playoff appearance or two is not something to be super excited about, but at the same people are overdramatic when they say things like "we're a joke in the league" or "we're headed downhill" or "we have the worst owner of the league".

Here are other teams and owners that I think that fit the bill of being a joke in the league, heading downhill, and/or having terrible owners:
- Detroit Lions finishing 0-16 last year, and being a perennial loser
- Al Davis' Oakland Raiders, the whole Kiffin affair
- The Atlanta Falcons having their coach (Petrino) bail out on them after the whole Vick fiasco
- The decline of the KC Chiefs after being a perennial playoff team in the 90s.
- The Bengals becoming a haven for discipline and character issues.
- The circus known as Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys
- The decline of the San Francisco 49ers after being a powerhouse in the 90s
- And I dare to say it, the black eye that the New England Patriots will always have in sports history regarding Spygate (it's not as terrible as the other teams, but I think as a fan of the team it would suck that my team is associated with a cheating scandal).

I think some fans go too much out of their way to attack the team and the ownership, pretend like Deion Sanders and Bruce Smith were signed just yesterday, and love to praise other teams as a way to attack their own team. I know the team has made some stupid mistakes, but let's not pretend like we're the only team to do them.

Finally, in regards to the ownership and the front office, I admit that they are flawed, like everyone else. However, I do appreciate their willingness to take risks and to spend money. Sure, I would want the team to be in the NFC Championship 4 or 5 times, but ask the Iggle fans if they wish the team's ownership would spend a little bit of money to take it to the next level.

Regardless of its flaw, (and yeah I know I'm drinking the Kool-Aid here), I am glad that no one can say that the Redskins have a whole bunch of players with discipline and character issues or that they are cheaters or have an ownership that is not willing to spend/take risks in order to win. Snyder is not a clown like Jones or Al Davis, and I think it is safe to say that the last two coaches this team has had (Gibbs and Zorn) are upstanding character guys.

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Yeah I think Skins fans self-perception at times is a bit skewed to the negative. Most of my friends would actually prefer to have an owner like Snyder that spends money even though the results aren't always the best. They view it as him at least trying to bring a winner to DC. I definitely think Skins fans are more harsh on Snyder than fans of other teams are.

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[quote=Ruhskins;544692]I think some fans are way too pessimistic about the team's situation. Granted that the occasional playoff appearance or two is not something to be super excited about, but at the same people are overdramatic when they say things like "we're a joke in the league" or "we're headed downhill" or "we have the worst owner of the league".

Here are other teams and owners that I think that fit the bill of being a joke in the league, heading downhill, and/or having terrible owners:
- Detroit Lions finishing 0-16 last year, and being a perennial loser
- Al Davis' Oakland Raiders, the whole Kiffin affair
- The Atlanta Falcons having their coach (Petrino) bail out on them after the whole Vick fiasco
- The decline of the KC Chiefs after being a perennial playoff team in the 90s.
- The Bengals becoming a haven for discipline and character issues.
- The circus known as Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys
- The decline of the San Francisco 49ers after being a powerhouse in the 90s
- [b]And I dare to say it, the black eye that the New England Patriots will always have in sports history regarding Spygate (it's not as terrible as the other teams, but I think as a fan of the team it would suck that my team is associated with a cheating scandal).[/b]

I think some fans go too much out of their way to attack the team and the ownership, pretend like Deion Sanders and Bruce Smith were signed just yesterday, and love to praise other teams as a way to attack their own team. I know the team has made some stupid mistakes, but let's not pretend like we're the only team to do them.

Finally, in regards to the ownership and the front office, I admit that they are flawed, like everyone else. However, I do appreciate their willingness to take risks and to spend money. Sure, I would want the team to be in the NFC Championship 4 or 5 times, but ask the Iggle fans if they wish the team's ownership would spend a little bit of money to take it to the next level.

Regardless of its flaw, (and yeah I know I'm drinking the Kool-Aid here), I am glad that no one can say that the Redskins have a whole bunch of players with discipline and character issues or that they are cheaters.[/quote]
I agree with virtually everything you said except the Patriots/Spygate thing. It was wrong, but it was majorly overwrought by the media. It wasn't that huge of an issue until the NFL-N and ESPN got hold of it.

To the question of the OP, among my friends I am the only Redskins fan. They think we're always set up for the let down by our transactions. It's baffling to them (and us) why we aren't a juggernaut being in a major market with an owner willing to do anything. My best friend, who is a Cowboys fan that lives in DC, thinks we are way too critical of each and every thing. He often calls me about the sky falling on 980 when there is the smallest controversy.

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In general I think most fans are pretty hard on their own teams, harder than they are viewed by outsiders.

I remember a few weeks after the SB this year hearing a Steelers fan call in to "Moving the Chains" and was complaining about what the Steelers need to do in the draft, their weaknesses, this guy sucks, that guy sucks, and Tim Ryan stopped him mid-sentence and was like hold on brother, didn't you guys just win the Bowl?

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I think some so called fans are hard on the front office as well as the players, ie (Jason Campbell). I think there are a lot of teams that would love to have a qb that can play in as many systems as he has and show improvement each year yet many fans are ready to give up on him. Most blame Snyder for his need to grab other teams players when they have the same feelings( everyone else's players are better then ours so lets dump ours and get them)

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[quote=Paintrain;544700]I agree with virtually everything you said except the Patriots/Spygate thing. [B]It was wrong, but it was majorly overwrought by the media.[/B] It wasn't that huge of an issue until the NFL-N and ESPN got hold of it.

To the question of the OP, among my friends I am the only Redskins fan. They think we're always set up for the let down by our transactions. It's baffling to them (and us) why we aren't a juggernaut being in a major market with an owner willing to do anything. My best friend, who is a Cowboys fan that lives in DC, thinks we are way too critical of each and every thing. He often calls me about the sky falling on 980 when there is the smallest controversy.[/quote]

You make a good point about the Pats, but the overblown hype by the media will cause this incident to be remembered right along with the successes of the team. I guess I shouldn't have put it in the context of "bad teams", but it just sucks for NE to have that label with them.

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I sit across three Cowboy fans and a Giant's fan. I could honestly care less how they see me. I just talk smack to them anyway. I keep my mouth shut when the Giant's girl pipes up. She's only a fan because her boyfriend is one, and she never said anything about football before the last season. I do ride her about Texaco Genius, and that cross-eyed mary they've got throwing for them. I dog the hell out of the Filth-a-delphia fan in the smoke room. She dogs Soup but I remind her, we OWN Philly.
I'm bringing a big Redskins helmet on Monday to put in the Cowpukes faces. Let them get that image.
I don't know how other fans see me but it has to be better than how they see the Filthy fans.

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I just figured our image reflects who we are. The most intelligent fans on the planet. :cool-smil

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[quote=redskins1974;544669] i've seen fights at Redskins games between Redskins fans[/quote]


This is truly unvelievable, save your swings for Philly and Cowboy fans, why fight amongs ourselves.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;544684]I seriously think we're starting to get a bad image because of Snyder and the FO. I think a lot of fans of other teams see him as a joke and it trickles down to us because he still follow his team, which sucks.

Also, I think a lot of people see DC fans in general as front runners. Just look at the Verizon Center when the Caps/Wizards are doing well vs. when their not. Also, remember how bad the MNF game against the Steelers made us look this past season when FedEx was full of those F'ing yellow hankies.

[/quote]


- Yes I agree with the first paragraph. Snyder and that idiot Cerrato are viewed as a joke of a management team and gives the skins an overall bad reputation so that filters to us fans a bit.

- I disagree with the whole 'front runner' assertion. I've heard this before but with few exceptions this happens in every town when the team hasn't won in a while. ex. I hear about how 'passionate' the Beagles fans are yet I went to the Vet when they were terrible and there were plenty of empty seats in the lower bowl. Maybe Green Bay is an exception but most towns are like this

With that said it was indeed a sad day last November when I looked around the stadium and saw all those crappy yellow towels. This was a very big MNF game for us and it was sad to see people sell out for the cash because they knew Pittsburgh fans would pay big money.

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I really think that Snyder and Cerrato give people the wrong impression of us Redskins fans. Most people that i speak with kinda of thing that we are foolish and arrogant. You know what i tell them? "I'm better than you, and I dont care what you think" and then I make it rain cash all over em.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;544748]I sit across three Cowboy fans and a Giant's fan. I could honestly care less how they see me. I just talk smack to them anyway. I keep my mouth shut when the Giant's girl pipes up. She's only a fan because her boyfriend is one, and she never said anything about football before the last season. [B]I do ride her about Texaco Genius, and that cross-eyed mary they've got throwing for them.[/B] I dog the hell out of the Filth-a-delphia fan in the smoke room. She dogs Soup but I remind her, we OWN Philly.
I'm bringing a big Redskins helmet on Monday to put in the Cowpukes faces. Let them get that image.
I don't know how other fans see me but it has to be better than how they see the Filthy fans.[/quote]

LMAO! :laughing2

I'm not really sure about our image as a fan base. Obviously when we were turning in winning seasons every year and RFK was bouncing (literally), we probably got a lot more credit.

Snyder isn't helping our overall imagine, and the way fans of other teams find a way to infiltrate our home games doesn't help either.

But overall I'd agree with Matty. We're harder on ourselves than anyone else, and probably a fairly typical NFL fanbase these days.

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When I was in 9th grade my teacher, an Eagles fan, returned on a Monday from an Eagles/Steelers game. He had a wired jaw, two black eyes, and his arm was in a sling. His buddy told a Steelers fan that T.O. was a more prolific receiver than Lynn Swann. My teacher was stuck in a brawl and got the brunt of the altercation...

As a Redskins fan I thought this was pretty funny. The worst fans, or probably the dumbest, are Cowboys fans. I used to get surrounded every Saturday when I lived in Texas. They would make up facts and stats and of course when everyone thinks they are true (Tony Romo has broken the record for most TD's in a season, Marion Barber is the next Walter Payton, The Cowboys have won 6 super bowls... etc.), and I am the only one who knows they are not, being a Redskins fan denies my credibility. I will sit back and critique my team. I see the flaws, and care about how they are fixed. Cowboys fans think their team is the best, and the flaws of all 31 other teams are the reason why they cannot win a playoff game!! Granted, there are a few of us that are irrational, but I have talked to plenty more rational than irrational.

Quick Question:
Why are the "pundits" so worried about making Snyder look bad? Our image problems stems from the media. Jerry Jones is a tycoon who makes horrible decisions, and has an overrated team year after year. Al Davis is a senile crazy man who will do anything to smell a playoff game before his demise. How are they any better than Snyder?

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[quote=Stuck in TX;544761]Quick Question:
Why are the "pundits" so worried about making Snyder look bad? Our image problems stems from the media. Jerry Jones is a tycoon who makes horrible decisions, and has an overrated team year after year. Al Davis is a senile crazy man who will do anything to smell a playoff game before his demise. How are they any better than Snyder?[/quote]

Davis at this point by the media is probably viewed from what I've read as a worse owner then Snyder.

Jones gets a bit easier treatment because at least he has some football background because he played HS and college. Snyder did neither and remember that they have won 3 SB's albeit a decade ago under Jones.

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Some of my friends really aren't aware of Vinny or what he does. I know I probably couldn't name every GM/personnel guy in the league. They do know of Snyder of course but the fact is we tend to shine a much brighter light on our own situation.

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Matty:

You said that many Skins fans self-perception skew toward the negative. True.

However, for lots of other Skins' fans, self-perception skews so far toward the positive that they appear delusional. Just a [B]few [/B]examples:


1. Patrick Ramsey will become a great NFL QB because he had a better record as a starter after 15 games than Brett Favre or Peyton Manning did. Optimistic or delusional? You make the call.


2. Joe Bugel is a magical genius who can take any five guys who used to be piano movers and make them into a great offensive line. Optimistic or delusional? You make the call.


3. Training camp fodder - - such as Sultan McCullough and Anthony Mix and whomever will fill that role this summer - - would be Pro Bowl players if only the Skins would allow them to get on the field. Optimistic or delusional? You make the call.


Skins' fans also love to think that their team is "hated" by the media and by the rest of the NFL. That is simply not the case. Networks love the Skins because they are one of the teams that reliably draw good ratings on TV. Columnists love the Skins because there is always some kind of "drama" going on there to write about. Other owners love the Skins because the Skins' financial success increases the value of all league franchises.

But for many Skins' fans, they need this conspiracy of hate to exist out there or else they may have to admit that the team isn't always excellent and the FO decision making is not always excellent. So, it is much easier to go with the "Everybody hates us..." line of thought.

Oh, I guess that would fall in the "delusional" bucket - - wouldn't it?

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[quote=Stuck in TX;544761]When I was in 9th grade my teacher, an Eagles fan, returned on a Monday from an Eagles/Steelers game. He had a wired jaw, two black eyes, and his arm was in a sling. His buddy told a Steelers fan that T.O. was a more prolific receiver than Lynn Swann. My teacher was stuck in a brawl and got the brunt of the altercation...

As a Redskins fan I thought this was pretty funny. The worst fans, or probably the dumbest, are Cowboys fans. I used to get surrounded every Saturday when I lived in Texas. [B]They would make up facts and stats[/B] and of course when everyone thinks they are true (Tony Romo has broken the record for most TD's in a season, Marion Barber is the next Walter Payton, The Cowboys have won 6 super bowls... etc.), and I am the only one who knows they are not, being a Redskins fan denies my credibility. I will sit back and critique my team. I see the flaws, and care about how they are fixed. Cowboys fans think their team is the best, and the flaws of all 31 other teams are the reason why they cannot win a playoff game!! Granted, there are a few of us that are irrational, but I have talked to plenty more rational than irrational.

Quick Question:
Why are the "pundits" so worried about making Snyder look bad? Our image problems stems from the media. Jerry Jones is a tycoon who makes horrible decisions, and has an overrated team year after year. Al Davis is a senile crazy man who will do anything to smell a playoff game before his demise. How are they any better than Snyder?[/quote]

Good post. I've noticed quite a bit of that with Cowgirl fans. It makes you wonder if they're fans of football or just the Cowgirls in particular. There are many, many front-running fans out there who seem to know very little about the actual game of football. It doesn't seem to stop them from voicing their uninformed opinions unfortunately. Discussions with one seems an exercise in futility since facts are not looked upon with the same importance as who can talk the loudest. I have an ex-brother in law who wears Cowgirl gear any chance he gets and probably couldn't tell you who won the Super Bowl last year. I have taken it as my duty to see that his son (my nephew) is not raised in the same ignorance as his father and doesn't buy into the Cowgirl "hype". America's team my ass. Hail Redskins!

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[quote=Ruhskins;544711]You make a good point about the Pats, but the overblown hype by the media will cause this incident to be remembered right along with the successes of the team. I guess I shouldn't have put it in the context of "bad teams", [B]but it just sucks for NE to have that label with them.[/B][/quote]

No, it doesn't suck. It is not any different than when rival football fans bring up that two of our three SB wins were strike shortened seasons. It does not matter.
If Brady comes back to his normal level of play the Pats will again be one of the top teams and nobody will be talking about spygate except the fans that hate the Pats. The media and the press are done with it.It is a non-factor.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;544774]Matty:

You said that many Skins fans self-perception skew toward the negative. True.

However, for lots of other Skins' fans, self-perception skews so far toward the positive that they appear delusional. Just a [B]few [/B]examples:


1. Patrick Ramsey will become a great NFL QB because he had a better record as a starter after 15 games than Brett Favre or Peyton Manning did. Optimistic or delusional? You make the call.


2. Joe Bugel is a magical genius who can take any five guys who used to be piano movers and make them into a great offensive line. Optimistic or delusional? You make the call.


3. Training camp fodder - - such as Sultan McCullough and Anthony Mix and whomever will fill that role this summer - - would be Pro Bowl players if only the Skins would allow them to get on the field. Optimistic or delusional? You make the call.


Skins' fans also love to think that their team is "hated" by the media and by the rest of the NFL. That is simply not the case. Networks love the Skins because they are one of the teams that reliably draw good ratings on TV. Columnists love the Skins because there is always some kind of "drama" going on there to write about. Other owners love the Skins because the Skins' financial success increases the value of all league franchises.

But for many Skins' fans, they need this conspiracy of hate to exist out there or else they may have to admit that the team isn't always excellent and the FO decision making is not always excellent. So, it is much easier to go with the "Everybody hates us..." line of thought.

Oh, I guess that would fall in the "delusional" bucket - - wouldn't it?[/quote]

Yeah it goes both ways. There are extremes to both sides.

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I don't think that the image of our fans is bad at all, unless someone decides to let some of our blunders and/or lackluster play change their perception of our fans.

The only thing that irks me is the people that I haven't talked to in years saying things like, "You're STILL a Redskins fan?" or "I would've had to have picked a different team by now." What the fuggedy fugg is that all about?

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I don't lose sleep worrying about what other people think.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Redskins one of the top pro sports franchises in the world? We haven't won a playoff game since Desert Storm, yet Fed Ex sells out and Redskins merchandise still flies off the shelves.

Philly fans are pissed off well, because they live in Philly. If you've spent any amount of time in this city, you'd know that there is certainly no "brotherly love".

Dallas fans are the Yankees fans of football. They span the entire nation and talk out of their ass and always, always buy into the hype.

New York fans are generally the more articulate of the three, but will run off at the mouth if given the opportunity, especially given their collection of defensive linemen that brought them an upset over the cocky Patriots.

Redskins fans may be perceived as delusional and have been somewhat spoiled by the success of the team throughout the 80's. Therefore many "fans" expect a division title, or at the very least a playoff appearance every year. The problem is, Washington D.C. and the metropolitan area is a melting pot. It's sprawling suburbs harbor people of all types from all over the world. The same could be said for many major American cities, but in my opinion D.C. stands alone. It's the nation's capitol and is probably despised unfairly in sports due to the fact that it's the home of many corrupt politicians. However, Washington is definitely a football town and it's fans by in large are loyal and true.

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[quote=tryfuhl;544803]I don't think that the image of our fans is bad at all, unless someone decides to let some of our blunders and/or lackluster play change their perception of our fans.

The only thing that irks me is the people that I haven't talked to in years [B]saying things like, "You're STILL a Redskins fan?" or "I would've had to have picked a different team by now." [/B]What the fuggedy fugg is that all about?[/quote]

Dude, I cant tell you how much I've heard Sh*t like this- especially from Philly and Dallas fans. 'Fair weather' or 'bandwagon' are terms that they are simply not familiar with... hypocrites.

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[quote=Soup's Uncle;544676]
I think they see us as rednecks...cus we are in "the south"...[/quote]

DC is not "the south". The majority of VA is not "the south" and a lot of people from south of of tobacco road still view DC, Philly, Boston, New York and Baltimore as one location.

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[quote=AnimateYYZ;544828]Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Redskins one of the top pro sports franchises in the world? We haven't won a playoff game since Desert Storm, yet Fed Ex sells out and Redskins merchandise still flies off the shelves.

Philly fans are pissed off well, because they live in Philly. If you've spent any amount of time in this city, you'd know that there is certainly no "brotherly love".

Dallas fans are the Yankees fans of football. They span the entire nation and talk out of their ass and always, always buy into the hype.

New York fans are generally the more articulate of the three, but will run off at the mouth if given the opportunity, especially given their collection of defensive linemen that brought them an upset over the cocky Patriots.

Redskins fans may be perceived as delusional and have been somewhat spoiled by the success of the team throughout the 80's. Therefore many "fans" expect a division title, or at the very least a playoff appearance every year. The problem is, Washington D.C. and the metropolitan area is a melting pot. It's sprawling suburbs harbor people of all types from all over the world. The same could be said for many major American cities, but in my opinion D.C. stands alone. It's the nation's capitol and is probably despised unfairly in sports due to the fact that it's the home of many corrupt politicians. However, Washington is definitely a football town and it's fans by in large are loyal and true.[/quote]

I think you hit the nail on the head. Fantastic post. I remember someone arguing with me that Skins fans are only fans when things are going well. That should explain all the season ticket holders year in year out and all the merchandise being sold....

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[quote=53Fan;544775]Good post. I've noticed quite a bit of that with Cowgirl fans. It makes you wonder if they're fans of football or just the Cowgirls in particular. There are many, many front-running fans out there who seem to know very little about the actual game of football. It doesn't seem to stop them from voicing their uninformed opinions unfortunately. Discussions with one seems an exercise in futility since facts are not looked upon with the same importance as who can talk the loudest. I have an ex-brother in law who wears Cowgirl gear any chance he gets and probably couldn't tell you who won the Super Bowl last year. I have taken it as my duty to see that his son (my nephew) is not raised in the same ignorance as his father and doesn't buy into the Cowgirl "hype". America's team my ass. Hail Redskins![/quote]
I think is true of a lot of people who watch football. My mom claims to be a Redskins fan but couldn't even tell you 3 current starters. She screams with the best of them on Sunday afternoons but, outside of the Super Bowl, never watches an NFL game. IMO, I'm a huge football fan and primarily an NFL fan, but am passionate about the SKins above all else.

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[quote=rypper11;544845]I think is true of a lot of people who watch football. My mom claims to be a Redskins fan but couldn't even tell you 3 current starters. She screams with the best of them on Sunday afternoons but, outside of the Super Bowl, never watches an NFL game. IMO, I'm a huge football fan and primarily an NFL fan, but am passionate about the SKins above all else.[/quote]

:) God bless your mother! I guess I just notice it more with Cowgirl fans because they seem to be the most vocal without any provocation, facts be damned.

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[quote=rypper11;544841]DC is not "the south". The majority of VA is not "the south" and a lot of people from south of of tobacco road still view DC, Philly, Boston, New York and Baltimore as one location.[/quote]

I believe the statues of Bobby Lee and Stonewall Jackson (Both Virginians) on monument avenue would qualify Virginia as being "Southern". So would the Daughters of the Confederacy on BLVD, not to mention Jefferson Davis Highway, Semmes Avenue, and the museum of the Confederacy. I'm just saying . . . .

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[quote=NoviSkins;544685]Whenever a Philly fan talks shit there is always the old standby that never fails and can't be argued.

Skins: 3 Rings
Iggles: 0[/quote]

[B]Correction:[/B] 3.5 rings. Back-to-back Super Bowls have to count for something, no matter how painful.

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This is who we've always been (esp at RFK), this is who we are, this is who we will always be. [B]No one[/B] else can claim this.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id8N8LkCuig&feature=related]YouTube - Art Monk Hall of Fame Induction Applause[/url]

(video sticks for about 20 secs but then straightens out)

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I think Skins fans have a fine image with regards to the NFL fandom as a whole. I only really get to see them when they come to Detroit. THe away group is awesome, very respectful, and most of all VERY LOUD cheering on the Skins. Last year, I was lucky enough to sit near them and they just about made as much noise as the home crowd. Never seen a fight break out between Skins and Lions fans even back in the Silverdome days, which is amazing, as there were always fights with just about every other opposing team that went to the Silverdome. Skins fans are looked at in a decent light I think. Now our owner, that might be another matter!!!!!