Man Beaten Over Cowboys Car Flag
 

Man Removes Car Flag, Gets Clocked by Motorist

By Martin Weil
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 15, 2009; B04

A man who grabbed a Dallas Cowboys flag from a car in downtown Washington was punched in the face yesterday, startling passersby in an area that is home to lawyers, lobbyists and expensive shops and restaurants.

It occurred about 6 p.m. in the 1700 block of L Street NW, at a site just west of Connecticut Avenue, where few expect fisticuffs. Commuters were hurrying toward the Farragut North Metro station, and the car was stopped in traffic, police and witnesses said.

"It's crazy," said D.C. police Lt. Eric Hayes of the 2nd District. "It doesn't make sense."

But, he said, someone snatched the flag from a car, apparently threw it down, and crossed the street. "By the time he got across, someone exited the car" and struck him in the face, Hayes said.

It might have been motivated by team loyalty, he said. Or the motorist might have been particular about who touched his car.

One witness said she saw a "big tall man walk up to this guy and hit him across the head." Then, she said, the tall man "got back in his car and drove off."

She said that the motorist "just hit the man and walked off" and that he picked up an object from the ground, which might have been the flag.

The man who was hit fell and struck his head on the sidewalk, she said. Ringed by the concerned and the curious, the man lay facedown on the pavement.

"He was out cold for a good five minutes or so," the witness said.

Police said a man was taken from the scene for treatment of a bruised forehead.

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Either a stupid redneck or an idiotic thug. Either way the person who grabbed the flag was in the wrong but the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

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Does Michael Irvin drive in D.C.?

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[quote=53fan;546172]does michael irvin drive in d.c.?[/quote]

lol!

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Ah, yes the essence of rivalry.
It is not that someone grabbed a flag and got his clocked cleaned.

It's the fact that someone at the Washington Post felt it was news worthy and put a headline on it.

On any other day it is a non-story.

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You grab my 'Skins flag off of my car and you and I have a big time problem. That's like spiting in my face and any man that tolerates that is no man at all. You don't mess with a man's car or woman. Period.

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[quote=saden1;546183]You grab my 'Skins flag off of my car and you and I have a big time problem. That's like spiting in my face and any man that tolerates that is no man at all. You don't mess with a man's car or woman. Period.[/quote]
It's loose talk like that....makes me want to block you off (for your own good) in the fast lane of the freeway!............
HTTR

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That's a pretty funny story.....

I'd be pretty pissed if someone ripped anything off my car and threw it to the ground! If you do something that's totally disrespectful to another mans property you deserve to get your bell rung!

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[quote=Riggo44;546191]That's a pretty funny story.....

I'd be pretty pissed if someone ripped anything off my car and threw it to the ground! If you do something that's totally disrespectful to another mans property you deserve to get your bell rung![/quote]
My thoughts exactly..

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[quote=saden1;546183]You grab my 'Skins flag off of my car and you and I have a big time problem. That's like spiting in my face and any man that tolerates that is no man at all. You don't mess with a man's car or woman. Period.[/quote]

Save the fight for something that matters. A car flag can easily be replaced.

It reminds me of these guys I used to hang out with my freshmen year of college. A group of guys started talking trash to them and all my friends did was laugh it off. Eventually they started insulting their families and whatever else they could think of, this lead to one of the guys going so far to spit on them. Still nothing. Later these same guys (the trash talkers) jumped a guy who was a friend of the group in a completely separate incident later that night. Since then I've never seen a group of guys get beaten so badly, among the guys who were my friends was a golden gloves boxer and a black belt in judo, obviously I was a bystander.

The point of the story is that strong people don't have to defend their honor, it's just something they have and no amount of pointless taunting can change. The only time they acted was when something important to them was truly wronged. I think it goes without saying I admire those guys and to this day I try and represent the values they stood for.

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[quote=saden1;546183]You grab my 'Skins flag off of my car and you and I have a big time problem. That's like spiting in my face and any man that tolerates that is no man at all. You don't mess with a man's car or woman. Period.[/quote]

I agree...although the analogy of a woman as a possession is a bit much.

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If a Cowpoke ripped a Redskins flag off my car, I'd definitely have words for them. But I sure as hell wouldn't just walk up to them and cold cock them on a busy street.

But really, driving through downtown DC flying a Cowboys flag?? I'm sure that guy has gotten plenty of sh*t before. Maybe that's why he had such a short fuse about the whole thing.

Living in Gainesville, Fl, with as many drunken students as there were running around, you should see some of the things done to cars flying Tennessee, Florida State, Miami, and LSU flags. They vary from gross, to hilarious, to violent... Either way, don't fly anything other than a Gator flag unless you're looking for trouble. Not saying it's right, just saying you're asking for it if you fly your flag in your arch rival's hometown.

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See, that's the difference between us and Pukes fans. A Pukes fan throws a punch. Take one of our flags and you end up like the guy who ran over John Gotti's son.

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[quote=GMScud;546213][B]If a Cowpoke ripped a Redskins flag off my car, I'd definitely have words for them[/B]. But I sure as hell wouldn't just walk up to them and cold cock them on a busy street.

But really, driving through downtown DC flying a Cowboys flag?? I'm sure that guy has gotten plenty of sh*t before. Maybe that's why he had such a short fuse about the whole thing.

Living in Gainesville, Fl, with as many drunken students as there were running around, you should see some of the things done to cars flying Tennessee, Florida State, Miami, and LSU flags. They vary from gross, to hilarious, to violent... Either way, don't fly anything other than a Gator flag unless you're looking for trouble. Not saying it's right, just saying you're asking for it if you fly your flag in your arch rival's hometown.[/quote]

C'mon GMScud. You have words for them even if they don't take your flag don't you? :) I know I do.

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[quote=53Fan;546216]C'mon GMScud. You have words for them even if they don't take your flag don't you? :) I know I do.[/quote]

I haz word....."lawsuit"

I think though that the guy who threw the flag was doing the car owner a favor. Flags on cars look stupid unless your the president riding in a Lincoln during a parade. He was just being a good samaritan.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;546199]Save the fight for something that matters. A car flag can easily be replaced.

It reminds me of these guys I used to hang out with my freshmen year of college. A group of guys started talking trash to them and all my friends did was laugh it off. Eventually they started insulting their families and whatever else they could think of, this lead to one of the guys going so far to spit on them. Still nothing. Later these same guys (the trash talkers) jumped a guy who was a friend of the group in a completely separate incident later that night. Since then I've never seen a group of guys get beaten so badly, among the guys who were my friends was a golden gloves boxer and a black belt in judo, obviously I was a bystander.

The point of the story is that strong people don't have to defend their honor, it's just something they have and no amount of pointless taunting can change. The only time they acted was when something important to them was truly wronged. I think it goes without saying I admire those guys and to this day I try and represent the values they stood for.[/quote]

I'm pretty mellow to verbal assaults and god knows it takes a lot to get me all worked up but ripping anything off my car is vandalism and disrespectful on my person. If you want to trash talk that's fine, if you want to say shit about my mama that's fine too but the moment it gets physical is the moment you have my attention and touching my car is a physical.

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[quote=GMScud;546213]If a Cowpoke ripped a Redskins flag off my car, I'd definitely have words for them. But I sure as hell wouldn't just walk up to them and cold cock them on a busy street.

But really, driving through downtown DC flying a Cowboys flag?? I'm sure that guy has gotten plenty of sh*t before. Maybe that's why he had such a short fuse about the whole thing.

Living in Gainesville, Fl, with as many drunken students as there were running around, you should see some of the things done to cars flying Tennessee, Florida State, Miami, and [B]LSU flags[/B]. They vary from gross, to hilarious, to violent... Either way, don't fly anything other than a Gator flag unless you're looking for trouble. Not saying it's right, just saying you're asking for it if you fly your flag in your arch rival's hometown.[/quote]

I have walked around UF with a LSU shirt before and I will do it again

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;546243]I have walked around UF with a LSU shirt before and I will do it again[/quote]

If I saw you with an LSU shirt on, I'd ask you how it felt to get a 50 spot dropped on you last season. Ick. Les Miles = Larry Coker.

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Childish at best.

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[quote=saden1;546230]I'm pretty mellow to verbal assaults and god knows it takes a lot to get me all worked up but ripping anything off my car is vandalism and disrespectful on my person. If you want to trash talk that's fine, if you want to say shit about my mama that's fine too but the moment it gets physical is the moment you have my attention and touching my car is a physical.[/quote]

You scared me there for a while. I was starting to picture you as Danny McBride in Eastbound and Down

[YT]xt-RKvCPnbE[/YT]

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[quote=jsarno;546209]I agree...although the analogy of a woman as a possession is a bit much.[/quote]


Hits a little to close to home?

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[quote=GMScud;546245]If I saw you with an LSU shirt on, I'd ask you how it felt to get a 50 spot dropped on you last season. Ick. Les Miles = Larry Coker.[/quote]


And I would say it felt just as good as when you got that black eye, and when you said "what black eye" Then would come the left hook lol. But seriously I love walking the line and doing things like that.

But Gm What I would really say is that it felt just as good as when we won the national title

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[quote=Dirtbag359;546169]Either a stupid redneck or an idiotic thug. Either way the person who grabbed the flag was in the wrong but the punishment doesn't fit the crime.[/quote]

How do you figure? If you take something from someone's car, you deserved to be knocked out or at least be willing to fight. If some idiot took my Redskins license plate frame, I wouldn't get out of the car, ask to hold hands and talk about how great the world is now that Obama is President. I would handle it exactly how the Cowboys fan did. How is the Cowboys fan a thug? This is how problems like this should be solved.

I am pissed that the Redskins fan got punked so bad. If you are going to get in an altercation with a 'boyz fan you need to fight your guts out. He made every Redskins fan look bad.

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The guy who took the flag deserved to get punched...rivalry is one thing but it is not acceptable to take other peoples property. Sure the guy didn't need to punch him and could have handled it verbally, but why feel bad for the idiot who got what was coming to him.

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[quote=MeanEvilSkin;546214]See, that's the difference between us and Pukes fans. A Pukes fan throws a punch. Take one of our flags and you end up like the guy who ran over John Gotti's son.[/quote]

you sond like a Cowpuke fan, stuping to ther level.

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[quote=saden1;546183]You grab my 'Skins flag off of my car and you and I have a big time problem. That's like spiting in my face and any man that tolerates that is no man at all. You don't mess with a man's car or woman. Period.[/quote]

[COLOR=DarkRed]The Culture War has been lost.[/COLOR]

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[quote=Buster;546326][COLOR=DarkRed]The Culture War has been lost.[/COLOR][/quote]

It has but that's not culture, that's just douchebaggery. Them people always walk among us.

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No matter how much you may hate a team and no matter how wrong it is driving around DC w/ a Cowboys flag on your car (especially in the offseason), you should always pay attention to how big the person is you are f'in with. I appreciate the loyalty but how retarded can you be?

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;546267]How do you figure? If you take something from someone's car, you deserved to be knocked out or at least be willing to fight. If some idiot took my Redskins license plate frame, I wouldn't get out of the car, ask to hold hands and talk about how great the world is now that Obama is President. I would handle it exactly how the Cowboys fan did.[B] How is the Cowboys fan a thug?[/B] This is how problems like this should be solved.

[B]I am pissed that the Redskins fan got punked so bad. If you are going to get in an altercation with a 'boyz fan you need to fight your guts out. He made every Redskins fan look bad.[/B][/quote]

Look, no one in this story is a winner. It was a pointless fight over a stupid infraction. Both "fighters" made both fanbases look bad. They're an embarrassment to their friends and their families.

[B]How is the Cowboys fan a thug?[/B]

Or redneck :D Now maybe it's shallow of me but in my experience it's people who immerse themselves in these two cultures that are usually the quickest to start fights. And just for the sake of covering all my bases thug is not my code word for black. A thug can be white, black, asian, doesn't matter what color you are. If you're the type that does stupid stuff like this and steal crap, do drugs all the time to look cool, disrespect people (particulary women), and worry about your "rep" all the time then you qualify for my definition of thug.

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The Redskins fan was immature and foolish for bothering to take a stupid car flag.

The Cowboys fan was immature for so quickly resorting to violence over a stupid car flag.

Obviously there are people among us who are third graders wearing adult shoes.

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[quote=GMScud;546213]If a Cowpoke ripped a Redskins flag off my car, I'd definitely have words for them. But I sure as hell wouldn't just walk up to them and cold cock them on a busy street.

But really, driving through downtown DC flying a Cowboys flag?? I'm sure that guy has gotten plenty of sh*t before. Maybe that's why he had such a short fuse about the whole thing.

Living in Gainesville, Fl, with as many drunken students as there were running around, you should see some of the things done to cars flying Tennessee, Florida State, Miami, and LSU flags. They vary from gross, to hilarious, to violent... Either way, don't fly anything other than a Gator flag unless you're looking for trouble. Not saying it's right, just saying you're asking for it if you fly your flag in your arch rival's hometown.[/quote]

I lived in a place that was considered "cowboy country", and everyone knew I was a skins fan. One day I had my front Skins license plate turned around on me as a joke, but no one stood up and took blame for it. I found that to be odd...but I still didn't want to cold clock the guy..and I am VERY protective of my truck!

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:) Glad this shit doesn't happen in New York!:lol::yeahright

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I use to see similar stuff like this at Highschool games around here. A couple of idiots would come across the field to sit in our bleachers and root for their team. It's completely assinine. Even though I felt like it I would never go up and just punch them upside the head. That's immature and really losing perspective on things if you ask me, but, I would verbally abuse them every chance I could, (good play on our part, bad play on their part) and I mean LOUDLY. They would usually leave with their tail between their legs before it was over. What really baffles me though is what kind of moron would put himself in that position? I wouldn't expect to be treated kindly if I were to ride through downtown Dallas with a Redskin flag waving from my car. If you're gonna act like an ass, expect to be treated like one.

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[quote=tman;546292]you sond like a Cowpuke fan, stuping to ther level.[/quote]

Spellcheck anyone?

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[quote=Giantone;546548]:) Glade this shit doesn't happen in New York!:lol::yeahright[/quote]

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spelling fail

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[quote=jsarno;546494]I lived in a place that was considered "cowboy country", and everyone knew I was a skins fan. One day I had my front Skins license plate turned around on me as a joke, but no one stood up and took blame for it. I found that to be odd...but I still didn't want to cold clock the guy..and [B]I am VERY protective of my truck[/B]![/quote]


I gotta take that thing for a spin

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spelling fail[/quote]


What you've never heard of "Gla-day?"[IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon10.gif[/IMG]

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The fans take the Cowboys and Redskins rivalry more serious than the players do, who make millions of dollars to play football. Lets ask ourselves is it worth going to prison for theft or assualt. Its a game we love to watch lets, let the teams settle it on the field.

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spelling fail[/quote]

oops...........:goodjob:

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Well if there is wrong doing here, it is shared by both parties. Taking someone's personal property, whether it is a 10 dollar flag or 10,000 dollar car is theft, plain and simple.

But retaliation of striking someone over a 10 dollar flag, that is equally disheartening.

You know I expect something like this to happen in Philly, and not in the DC area.

Ok, maybe, just maybe you see something like this at a tailgate prior to a game. But certainly not in public during the off season.