Peter King says Browns and Skins discuss pick swap
 

According to Peter King of S.I., the Browns and Skins have discussed swapping picks (Number 5 and number 13). It is assumed the Skins would only do this if "Dirty" Sanchez was available here...
Of course, the skins would have to add in their third rounder + another pick to make this work...
Link:[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/04/20/draft/1.html"]Mark Sanchez, Daniel Snyder, Scott Pioli pivotal in NFL draft - Peter King - SI.com[/URL]

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F#*^%@g Danny! I just don't see Sanchez doing much in the NFL. We have nobody to block for him or JC, and no pass rushers from the edge... Only The Redskins would do something as stupid as trade away their picks for a Never Will Be!!!

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truth be told, im hating this the more it becomes evident we're after this kid.

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[quote=Meks;547683]truth be told, im hating this the more it becomes evident we're after this kid.[/quote]
Seems that way... God please let the Seaducks pick him @4!

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Peter King has been wrong before especially regarding the Redskins.

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Man, I just keep hoping that this is all a smokescreen in order to have one of the top players on our board fall to us..

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The more I think about this the more I want to kick Danny in the gonads. I was looking forward to the draft, now it will just be a relief to get day one done.

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I'm a deep Skins fan but enough already! JC was 6-2 when the o-line was right and 2-6 when the right side fell apart and samuels got hurt. take the best o-tackle or trade back and get best available athlete. plain and simple.

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[quote=53Fan;547691]The more I think about this the more I want to kick Danny in the gonads. I was looking forward to the draft, now it will just be a relief to get day one done.[/quote]
I've never been a big draft guy. I mean, I don't expect our draft picks to produce immediately.. This year I feel like we need to draft a player that WILL contribute immediately with our first pick... Sanchez is not ready and probably never will be a playmaker for us.

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[quote=Lotus;547687]Peter King has been wrong before especially regarding the Redskins.[/quote]

Keep in mind he was the one who predicated that we'd get haynesworth and was the first one to witness the dinner with snyder and haynesworths agent

What I'm saying is that peter king has been right about us before...hopefully this is just one of the greatest draft smokescreens of all time and we trade up for a DE or tackle or just don't trade up at all ..bottomline, hopefully we DONT get sanchez

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[quote=53Fan;547691]The more I think about this t[B]he more I want to kick Danny in the gonads.[/B] I was looking forward to the draft, now it will just be a relief to get day one done.[/quote]

If we trade up for Sanchez, me first!

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What if this is a smoke screen and we are trading up to ensure we get one of the top lone men.

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[quote=Nflnick11;547696]Keep in mind he was the one who predicated that we'd get haynesworth and was the first one to witness the dinner with snyder and haynesworths agent

What I'm saying is that peter king has been right about us before...hopefully this is just one of the greatest draft smokescreens of all time and we trade up for a DE or tackle or just don't trade up at all ..bottomline, hopefully we DONT get sanchez[/quote]

You are correct, King has been right before. I just mentioned his errors to forestall the panic which seemed to be breaking out.

Someone call Vinny and find out what is up. The suspense regarding potentially stupid moves is killing me.

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PLEASE NO NO NO NO NO HELL NO!
Do not trade up for NOBODY!
Stand pat and draft whoever falls to us. If the 4 OL, Rey and/or Orakpo are gone, trade down!
I think JC must have sex'd Danny's wife or something?! What does the FO have against this man so much? Geez enough already!

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[quote=53Fan;547691]The more I think about this the more I want to kick Danny in the gonads. I was looking forward to the draft,[b] now it will just be a relief to get day one done.[/b][/quote]

Day one will be done AMAZINGLY fast for us if we do this deal...as in 1 pick and done til Sunday!

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[quote=Lotus;547697]If we trade up for Sanchez, me first![/quote]

There would be a long line for that first spot.

I just have trouble seeing this kid being an NFL star...am I the only one? Trade up for Stafford, that I could see in terms of wanting more of a sure thing, but not Sanchez.

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[quote=Lotus;547700]You are correct, King has been right before. I just mentioned his errors to forestall the panic which seemed to be breaking out.

Someone call Vinny and find out what is up. The suspense regarding potentially stupid moves is killing me.[/quote]

Wow a reporter right about Snyder throwing the most money at the prize of the offseason. Is Peter King actually JLC?

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This is awful what must this be doing to JC's confidence.

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[quote=53Fan;547691][B]The more I think about this the more I want to kick Danny in the gonads[/B]. I was looking forward to the draft, now it will just be a relief to get day one done.[/quote]

:laughing2 Yep...Sat. is looking like a night of hard drinking to obliterate the day's memories.

BTW does anybody think Danny/Vinny are catching on to all the negative fan reaction surrounding the Sanchez deal? I mean shit even those who (wrongly) doubt JC's abilities aren't excited about this...

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SS, if this deal goes down can you get us an address? I've a few bones to pick with the FO. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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[quote=The Goat;547711]:laughing2 Yep...Sat. is looking like a night of hard drinking to obliterate the day's memories.

BTW does anybody think Danny/Vinny are catching on to all the negative fan reaction surrounding the Sanchez deal? I mean shit even those who (wrongly) doubt JC's abilities aren't excited about this...[/quote]I am one of those who doubts JC's ability to become more than a Journeyman QB. I have said in previous posts that I do think He has a chance to have a Kerry Collins type of career/level of success. That being said, I do not believe Stafford will be able to translate to the NFL. He strikes me as a Jamarcus Russell, Uses arm stregnth to force balls into places that will be picked off in the NFL, and doesn't always make good reads/judgements. Sanchez on the other hand may or may not translate to the NFL. But, the lack of experience almost assuredly says that he will not be ready to lead a NFL team for a long time. (multiple seasons) JC is our best shot right now and we have colt to groom as a project. We need to give JC all the tools to succeed. LINEMAN!!!

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[quote=53Fan;547691]The more I think about this the more I want to kick Danny in the gonads. I was looking forward to the draft, now it will just be a relief to get day one done.[/quote]

Amen! I couldn't have put it any better.

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Well drafting Sanchez at 13 is questionable, but I'd be ok with it, provided we are able to move Campbell for something solid and can make some other moves to get some more day 1 picks to fill needs.

Trading up to get Sanchez is very questionable, but I'd be ok with it, provided we (see above). But it's less likely we could do that if we trade up for Sanchez.

But trading up to #5 is not likely going to be enough to get us Sanchez anyway, and besides haven't we learned not to get so worked up over every rumor that's out there. Or not?

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Could we be trading up to grab someone else, like Orakpo?

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[quote=SmootSmack;547736]Well drafting Sanchez at 13 is questionable, but I'd be ok with it, provided we are able to move Campbell for something solid and can make some other moves to get some more day 1 picks to fill needs.

Trading up to get Sanchez is very questionable, but I'd be ok with it, provided we (see above). But it's less likely we could do that if we trade up for Sanchez.

But trading up to #5 is not likely going to be enough to get us Sanchez anyway, and besides haven't we learned not to get so worked up over every rumor that's out there. Or not?[/quote]

So in either case you'd be okay with seeing Mark Sanchez start at QB against the New York Giants on September 13? Assuming we could get a 1st or a 2nd for Jason Campbell?

Is it possible Campbell is done as a Redskin this year even if they aren't able to get Sanchez?

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I agree with Smootsmack...this is a bunch of BS...the skins just want to guarantee that Sanchez will be taken before 13, so it increases the chance that a quality OT/LB/DE is still on the table...of course I am on medication right now...but ya gotta be positive!

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[quote=Mattyk72;547741]Could we be trading up to grab someone else, like Orakpo?[/quote]

We are going to take Mack with the #5 pick. We gotta take him because there is no way he's going to be there at #13.:)

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What is JC thinking right now???

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[quote=Mattyk72;547741]Could we be trading up to grab someone else, like Orakpo?[/quote]

You could be right. These GM's are worse than politicians.
If we did move up, I'd want Orakpo, Monroe or Jason Smith and that could happen if we did indeed move up to 5.

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[quote=WaldSkins;547745]We are going to take Mack with the #5 pick. We gotta take him because there is no way he's going to be there at #13.:)[/quote]

Mack at 13 is better than trading all of our picks for Cutler or Sanchez. You'll be saying I was right when Raback falls down and breaks a hip.

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[quote=Mattyk72;547741]Could we be trading up to grab someone else, like Orakpo?[/quote]

Well we did have dinner with him so...

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[quote=Beemnseven;547743]So in either case you'd be okay with seeing Mark Sanchez start at QB against the New York Giants on September 13? Assuming we could get a 1st or a 2nd for Jason Campbell?

Is it possible Campbell is done as a Redskin this year even if they aren't able to get Sanchez?[/quote]

I'd rather they kept Campbell, accepted that he's not a superstar QB, but a really good one that they can win with if they build pieces around him (namely, in front of him).

But they appear not to be committed to keeping him long term. So if you're going to let him go then get something out of it. And if you're going to commit so heavily to another project essentially, then go balls to the wall and truly commit. If you think he's the next Matt Ryan, then play him like the Falcons played Ryan.

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[quote=SmootSmack;547736]Well drafting Sanchez at 13 is questionable, but I'd be ok with it, provided we are able to move Campbell for something solid and can make some other moves to get some more day 1 picks to fill needs.

Trading up to get Sanchez is very questionable, but I'd be ok with it, provided we (see above). But it's less likely we could do that if we trade up for Sanchez.

[B]But trading up to #5 is not likely going to be enough to get us Sanchez anyway, and besides haven't we learned not to get so worked up over every rumor that's out there. Or not?[/B][/quote]

SS u r often a voice of reason much appreciated...but in this case (the Sanchez issue) I think there is a bigger picture that is getting uglier all the time. At some point it's become clear the FO isn't really sold on X,Y or Z QB but instead just wants to find a way to jettison JC. For instance, Cutler and Sanchez are very different QBs. If anything Stafford is a similar slinger to Cutler. Yet our owner gets butterflies about 2 very different styled QBs, neither of which have any experience w/ Zorn's version of the WCO, and in Sanchez a guy w/ really limited experience. Snyder looks like a nutcase at this point IMO, but I have to wonder about his real purpose. He's pissed and sh*t all over JC so badly now it's like Snyder is baiting the kid to work w/ his agent toward a trade...

Now u might ask why Snyder would go such a roundabout way to reach this end...why not be direct and have started the trade stuff much earlier. Is that really how Snyder does football? Nothing has been straightforward since Gibbs left. In fact before Gibbs had cleared out for good Snyder was already taking the low road, sending it over the wires Greg Williams had disrespected Gibbs and created a real problem for everyone. Snyder, clearly, doesn't know how to end things respectably if he wants them ended.

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[quote=SmootSmack;547772]Well we did have dinner with him so...[/quote]

Well, did Orakpo have veal? LOL.

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Well it looks like the Jason Campbell era will soon be over.. I don't know if Sanchez is a HUGE upgrade over Campbell!!!!!! But DS loves Sanchez and we all know he will do what it takes to get him.

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[quote=jsarno;547705]Day one will be done AMAZINGLY fast for us if we do this deal...as in 1 pick and done til Sunday![/quote]

Day 1 is already going to be a single draft pick unless we trade down.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;547770]Mack at 13 is better than trading all of our picks for Cutler or Sanchez. You'll be saying I was right when Raback falls down and breaks a hip.[/quote]Or really even if he's totally healthy.

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So what are people's thoughts if we moved up to get Orakpo? I mean, having Carter, Griff, Haynesworth, and Orakpo at the line would be pretty sick I think.

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I'm as high on the idea of getting Orakpo here as I've ever been.

I'm going to say this: if we're willing to trade up just a few picks, we might just be in position to land Aaron Curry. That would be one heck of a draft steal at, say, No. 8.

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[quote=Ruhskins;547793]So what are people's thoughts if we moved up to get Orakpo? I mean, having Carter, Griff, Haynesworth, and Orakpo at the line would be pretty sick I think.[/quote]

Hmmm...I'd be happier trading up for Jason Smith or Monroe if either guy falls a bit. Time to grab another bookend tackle.