Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Of course this would IMO only depend on how this season unfolds. Your early thoughts on Shanahan.

Do you think the SKINS make a play for him next season. With all the recent Cutler noise it certainly makes you wonder if he isn't already in the forefront of Dan's thinking/hiring OR wish list process?

And does Zorn really have a fair chance to succeed here in DC?

Your thoughts?

[B][URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/20/shanahan-eventually-to-surface-with-skins/"]Shanahan Eventually To Surface With ‘Skins?[/URL][/B]

Posted by Mike Florio on April 20, 2009, 9:59 p.m.
As the [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#"]Washington Redskins[IMG]http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif[/IMG][/URL] continue to prepare for the second year of the Jim Zorn era, we’re hearing ongoing chatter that, come 2010, the head coach of the team will be former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan.
Of course, the ‘Skins might not end up getting a clear shot at Shanahan. With Cowboys coach Wade Phillips entering the final year of his contract and a new deal unlikely, Jerry Jones likely will be looking for a new head coach, too.
In the end, Shanahan’s final destination might come down to money. Specifically, the question will be the extent to which any team is willing to exceed the $7 million that Shanahan is due to receive from the Broncos regardless of whether he works next season.
So maybe, just maybe, the team’s flirtation with USC quarterback [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#"]Mark Sanchez[IMG]http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif[/IMG][/URL] has less to do with making an impact in 2009, and more to do with helping set the table for Shanahan in 2010.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

No Shanahan. Although I'd rather have him than Cowher.

None of these guys will fix any problem that Zorn can't.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=skinsfan_nn;547799]Of course this would IMO only depend on how this season unfolds. Your early thoughts on Shanahan.

Do you think the SKINS make a play for him next season. With all the recent Cutler noise it certainly makes you wonder if he isn't already in the forefront of Dan's thinking/hiring OR wish list process?

And does Zorn really have a fair chance to succeed here in DC?

Your thoughts?

[B][URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/20/shanahan-eventually-to-surface-with-skins/"]Shanahan Eventually To Surface With ‘Skins?[/URL][/B]

Posted by Mike Florio on April 20, 2009, 9:59 p.m.
As the [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#"]Washington Redskins[IMG]http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif[/IMG][/URL] continue to prepare for the second year of the Jim Zorn era, we’re hearing ongoing chatter that, come 2010, the head coach of the team will be former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan.
Of course, the ‘Skins might not end up getting a clear shot at Shanahan. With Cowboys coach Wade Phillips entering the final year of his contract and a new deal unlikely, Jerry Jones likely will be looking for a new head coach, too.
In the end, Shanahan’s final destination might come down to money. Specifically, the question will be the extent to which any team is willing to exceed the $7 million that Shanahan is due to receive from the Broncos regardless of whether he works next season.
So maybe, just maybe, the team’s flirtation with USC quarterback [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#"]Mark Sanchez[IMG]http://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif[/IMG][/URL] has less to do with making an impact in 2009, and more to do with helping set the table for Shanahan in 2010.[/quote]

This is premature and ridiculous, especially coming from someone who honestly I believe hates the Redskins (Florio). I think given that the draft is only a few days away, there are better things to discuss.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Absurd article...I doubt any high-quality coach who takes the personnel side serious will ever come work for little Danny. All this future coach stuff is nonsense.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Gruden and Snyder would be a hilarious match made in heaven. Gruden is also the coach I would be least opposed to replacing Zorn.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

The only way Shanahan comes is with full personnel control and power. We saw how that played out in Denver with him making decisions and with Snyder trying to sit back to let Marty run the show. Either way, it'd be a disaster. So when is the press conference?

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

To the extent that his is true (and I give it no creedence at this early date), it is an argument against drafting Sanchez. Let Shanny, or any other new coach, choose his own QB.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Can we lock this up and bring it up after the draft?

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Great coach... but i just dont think hes the guy. Not in Washington... not now.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Please lets just focus on this season and we will just wait and see on Jim Zorn! I think Zorn is a Good coach and will continue to be.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Shanahan wants control AND somebody to blame that's above him, so I'm not sure that I see this happening.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=tryfuhl;547869]Shanahan wants control AND [B]somebody to blame [/B][B]that's above him,[/B] so I'm not sure that I see this happening.[/quote]

We can blame Dan Snyder for everything now!

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

dan Snyder and V. Cerrato are clearly both in control of the reigns for the Redskins. Vinny just because he is "best buds" with Snyder and is riding his coat tails as far as Snyder lets him. This being the case, they both will want a "Yes man" that they can control. Zorn is just that at this point in his career. Zorn is not the problem with the Redskins and their performance issues. The Redskins have to start acquiring players that are more productive and can allow the Offense (especially) to open up without so many limits which they have had over the past seasons.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=Ruhskins;547813]Can we lock this up and bring it up after the draft?[/quote]

No offense but why does everything that seems ignorant to some have to be locked up. It's a message board. If your not interested in the topic don't post. That's the mature thing to do. Better yet don't even entertain the mouse click.

I know it seems like a stupid thread and one on the cusp of a very important draft, but I can't say this has not entered my mind as well. I think it's obvious that if Zorn fails he's gone for one of the fancy smancy coach's that are available. I also half believed the whole Cutler issue was due to Shanahan. Possibly looking toward his future with the team.

To be honest I'm not a Shanahan fan. He's made playoffs many of times only to lose the division title. What one SB? He's not my first pick. Cowher is not much better. He's done the exact same thing. Chucky?...he went to the SB with two different teams who were built by other coach's.

I'm not sure who a good fit would be but I would think it's someone DS can get along with. Chucky is about his age but I forsee a personality conflict. Shanahan, if he truly would want total control will not get the job. That leaves Cowher and to be honest I would guess he would want as much or more control then he had in Pitt which probably will not happen with the Skins. Plus there are to many teams out there that would pick up one of those coach's in a heart beat and give them the control they would want.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

I like Jim Zorn, and I want to see him get a fair shot.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

My first thought would be here we go again, in start over mode yet again. :doh:

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Exactly what I'm thinking. We'll AGAIN have the wrong players for the wrong scheme and AGAIN if Shanahan doesn't produce a champion in 2 years, we'll be doing the saaaame thing again.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

I think Shanahan in an uncapped world would be tough to beat.

But that's only if you actually give Shanahan time to shape things the way he wants them, and it's only if you stay out of his way, and only if you commit to him. It's hard to see that happening.

And like Matty said, it sucks starting over every other year.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=Mattyk72;547894]My first thought would be here we go again, in start over mode yet again. :doh:[/quote]

I totally agree. Its impoossible to be successful when you keep changing coaches every couple of years.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=irish;547903]I totally agree. Its impoossible to be successful when you keep changing coaches every couple of years.[/quote]

And couple that with constant changes/uncertainty at QB and it's a recipe for 8-8

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=Mattyk72;547906]And couple that with constant changes/uncertainty at QB and it's a recipe for 8-8[/quote]

IMO, I think its a recipe for a lot worse than 8-8. This is an 8-8 team with everything working well forget about it with changes and uncertainty.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

I think Shanahan will be in Dallas, but if he replaced Zorn I'd be curious to know if he's replacing Cerrato too, and if that's a good thing?

Also, how would Portis feel?

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[B]I totally agree. Its impoossible to be successful when you keep changing coaches every couple of years. [/B]

I think it boils down to how well Zorn does. If he improves this yr he will probably stay. If he starts well again and falters or has another 8-8 season or worse he's gone. I for one would like to see a HC get more then 2-3 yrs to do something but I get the feeling DS wants to see improvement like any business man wants to see. If the business is stagnant or is starting to fail changes are made. If Zorn started out bad and ended on a good note I could see him staying around for another yr.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=Mattyk72;547894]My first thought would be here we go again, in start over mode yet again. :doh:[/quote]

If it happened, and I'm not advocating it, I wouldn't look at it as here we go again. If Snyder hires a Shanahan or Cowher, he's looking at a 10 year hire, and the first $100 million coach. With that kind of investment he's got to give full and complete control.

Zorn really had 'stopgap' written on him from jump. There wasn't a plan to replace Gibbs so Snyder had to go with what he could in a 'weak' coaching market that year. To hook a big fish he's going to have to shed his albatross in Vinny which was reportedly the barrier to getting Spags from NYG and take a large step back from football operations.

Shanny is experienced in dealing with a high profile, big money owner with Bowlen so he'd be up for the challenge, the main question would be if Danny would fire his 'boy' in order to make it happen.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Of course, i will root for the skins no matter whos coach... well, that is unless Danny decides to make himself Owner/GM/HC. I don't think I could handle that. Anyway, Shanahans been discussed, as have Cowher, Gruden, and Holmgren. Unless Zorn wins multiple playoff games, I honestly doubt Snyder will be able to resist the urge to pursue atleast one of those guys. So, with that in mind, i guess i might as well get used to the idea. With that in mind, here are my choices for HC in 2010, ranked in order from most desireable to least desireable.

1. Jim Zorn

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547911]I think Shanahan will be in Dallas, but if he replaced Zorn I'd be curious to know if he's replacing Cerrato too, and if that's a good thing?

Also, how would Portis feel?[/quote]

Really? I'd be shocked if Jerry didnt land Cowher. Or are you thinking John Fox is a dead man walking and Cowhers coaching the Panthers in 2010 no matter what.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=Paintrain;547914]If it happened, and I'm not advocating it, I wouldn't look at it as here we go again. If Snyder hires a Shanahan or Cowher, he's looking at a 10 year hire, and the first $100 million coach. With that kind of investment he's got to give full and complete control.

Zorn really had 'stopgap' written on him from jump. There wasn't a plan to replace Gibbs so Snyder had to go with what he could in a 'weak' coaching market that year. To hook a big fish he's going to have to shed his albatross in Vinny which was reportedly the barrier to getting Spags from NYG and take a large step back from football operations.

Shanny is experienced in dealing with a high profile, big money owner with Bowlen so he'd be up for the challenge, the main question would be if Danny would fire his 'boy' in order to make it happen.[/quote]

Cowher isnt coming here ever. He wont put up with DS's way of running a team. Also, there is no way either Cowher of Shanahan would stay for 10 years. Besides DS not having that kind of patience, those are older men and they understand the meatgrinder that is NFL coaching and 10 years is a long time under that stress. If you ask me, Zorn should be the 10 year hire. He younger and full of energy having never been thru the meat grinder. IMO, Zorn should stay for a minimum of 5 years no matter what happens but with an owner like DS that will never happen.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=irish;547928]Cowher isnt coming here ever. He wont put up with DS's way of running a team. Also, there is no way either Cowher of Shanahan would stay for 10 years. Besides DS not having that kind of patience, those are older men and they understand the meatgrinder that is NFL coaching and 10 years is a long time under that stress. If you ask me, Zorn should be the 10 year hire. [B]He younger[/B] and full of energy having never been thru the meat grinder. IMO, Zorn should stay for a minimum of 5 years no matter what happens but with an owner like DS that will never happen.[/quote]

Totally agree. Zorn should be given enough time to determine if his system and his players can make it to perennial Super Bowl contender. 1 and 2 year tryouts isn't adequate enough. Plenty of the all-time great coaches struggled, especially in their first year.

Oh, Zorn is actually older than Cowher.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=irish;547928]Cowher isnt coming here ever. He wont put up with DS's way of running a team. Also, there is no way either Cowher of Shanahan would stay for 10 years. Besides DS not having that kind of patience, those are older men and they understand the meatgrinder that is NFL coaching and 10 years is a long time under that stress. If you ask me, Zorn should be the 10 year hire. He younger and full of energy having never been thru the meat grinder. IMO, Zorn should stay for a minimum of 5 years no matter what happens but with an owner like DS that will never happen.[/quote]
Well I stated earlier this week we don't really have a good chance at Cowher-too close to Marty, Shanahan-too close to Jerry Jones or Holmgren-too close to Zorn who would have just been fired. I was just hypothesizing based on the question. Maybe a 10 year $100 million contract is high, but you can certainly count on 5 years for $50 million without even blinking.

It would be huge for Zorn to have the level of success to gain a 10 year run as head coach but when he was hired it never seemed like that was the plan. Didn't he get a 5 year contract but only 3 were guaranteed?

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=Mattyk72;547894]My first thought would be here we go again, in start over mode yet again. :doh:[/quote]

I agree, but I would quickly follow that thought with: "WTF is Dan Snyder thinking?"

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;547921]Of course, i will root for the skins no matter whos coach... well, that is unless Danny decides to make himself Owner/GM/HC. I don't think I could handle that. Anyway, Shanahans been discussed, as have Cowher, Gruden, and Holmgren. Unless Zorn wins multiple playoff games, I honestly doubt Snyder will be able to resist the urge to pursue atleast one of those guys. So, with that in mind, i guess i might as well get used to the idea. With that in mind, here are my choices for HC in 2010, ranked in order from most desireable to least desireable.

1. Jim Zorn[/quote]

Where's the rest of your list? Considering you thought Zorn was a poor hire and couldn't wait for next off-season there must be a longer list, no?

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/518653-post33.html[/url]

[quote]Zorn inherited a team with a very strong running game from Joe Gibbs. We started 6-2 because we adhered to that running game. As the season went on, teams began to adjust to Zorn. How did Zorn adjust back? According to Clinton Portis, he tried to start changing things with the running game - the one thing that was working right! - and we went 2-6 in the 2nd half of the season.

We will not get better unless Zorn changes dramatically for the better in his 2nd year. Thus far, the only changes he has instituted have hurt the team, not helped it. If Zorn keeps his staff and continues to do what Zorn wants to do (and not what has been proven to work), I fully expect us to be a 6-10 team at best next year.

Zorn was a very poor hire by Vinny. He was - by far - the dumbest of all the new rookie coaching hires made in the last offseason. it looked that way at the time and it has been confirmed by what we've seen miami, Baltimore, and Atlanta do this year. Vinny sealed his fate with the Zorn hire and the 2009-2010 offseason can't come soon enough.[/quote]

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547945]Where's the rest of your list? Considering you thought Zorn was a poor hire and couldn't wait for next off-season there must be a longer list, no?

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/518653-post33.html[/url][/quote]
So I guess the lesson is not to flip flop on SmootSmack's watch.. You sure you're not wasting your talents at The Worldwide Leader rather than being a fact checker for politicians?

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=Paintrain;547952]So I guess the lesson is not to flip flop on SmootSmack's watch.. You sure you're not wasting your talents at The Worldwide Leader rather than being a fact checker for politicians?[/quote]

We all change our mind on occasion about things, just been wondering how someone would change their mind over the course of three months where nothing has really happened.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

i do not believe it was zorns fault we went down hill after mid way half of our line got hurt so he had to change up some how cambpell was running for his life and you cant win with out a healthy line no matter how good of a coach you are.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

My thoughts are what they are after every new coach comes in. Super Bowl in 3 seasons or less baby !

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

Smoot, great memory! I had completely forgotten about that rant. If memory serves me, someone here (or on ES) who had some sort of connection to Portis crew (friend of a friend) indicated that Portis was mouthing off and that Zorn did not change the running game in the 2nd half of the season - that our problems really were almost soley due to the o-line breaking down and that, contrary to other reports that I had read, Zorn really was well-liked by the team. Seeing that i had inaccurate information, my whole basis for making Zorn the lone scapegoat for our teams problems were fundamentally flawed. That said, I still think it was foolish to hire Zorn as HC and force the WCO on Campbell.

However, now that we've made the switch, we need to stick with it. If, as some have stated, Zorn really was hired as nothing more than a stop-gap, then we shouldnt have given him a 2nd year. Shanahan and Gruden are available now - why the delay? Which means Snyder must really be coveting Cowher or Holmgren (if the stop-gap theory is true). Which brings me to...

[quote=PainTrain]If it happened, and I'm not advocating it, I wouldn't look at it as here we go again. If Snyder hires a Shanahan or Cowher, he's looking at a 10 year hire, and the first $100 million coach. With that kind of investment he's got to give full and complete control.

Zorn really had 'stopgap' written on him from jump. There wasn't a plan to replace Gibbs so Snyder had to go with what he could in a 'weak' coaching market that year. To hook a big fish he's going to have to shed his albatross in Vinny which was reportedly the barrier to getting Spags from NYG and take a large step back from football operations.
[/quote]

Very interesting take on the situation, Pain. I think 10 years is a bit long for a contract, but 10M/year over 5+ years would be enough garaunteed cash that Snyder would be "forced" to stick with his decision. I wouldnt like starting over from scratch, but i could live with it if it garaunteed 5+ years with a superbowl HC.

I know numerous people have commented that Cowher wouldnt come here because he's close to Marty, but Marty has gone on record saying he and Snyder are friends and he'd work for Snyder again... so what if Snyder hired Cowher as coach and Shotty as GM and committed to them for 5+ years? Something like THAT I could live with.

What I absolutely couldnt live with is Shanahan or Holmgren serving as coach AND GM... neither has done well with both responsibilities in the past. And Gruden shouldnt even be in the conversation. Maybe as a QB coach/OC but thats it.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=SmootSmack;547972]We all change our mind on occasion about things, just been wondering how someone would change their mind over the course of three months where nothing has really happened.[/quote]

I have no problem changing my opinion when i've been proved wrong. I know most of you won't beleive it, but I'd like nothing more (when it comes to the Redskins) than for Campbell to prove me wrong.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;548013]Smoot, great memory! I had completely forgotten about that rant. If memory serves me, someone here (or on ES) who had some sort of connection to Portis crew (friend of a friend) indicated that Portis was mouthing off and that Zorn did not change the running game in the 2nd half of the season - that our problems really were almost soley due to the o-line breaking down and that, contrary to other reports that I had read, Zorn really was well-liked by the team. Seeing that i had inaccurate information, my whole basis for making Zorn the lone scapegoat for our teams problems were fundamentally flawed. That said, I still think it was foolish to hire Zorn as HC and force the WCO on Campbell.[/quote]

I have a bit of a photogenic memory, it's a blessing and a curse. I could visualize that post in my head. Was just a matter of finding it online. Yeah, there's that dude on ES who claims (I'm sure he is) to be tight with Porti or someone close to Portis. Zorn is going through growing pains with the players, earning their respect and vice-versa

[quote]However, now that we've made the switch, we need to stick with it. If, as some have stated, Zorn really was hired as nothing more than a stop-gap, then we shouldnt have given him a 2nd year. Shanahan and Gruden are available now - why the delay? Which means Snyder must really be coveting Cowher or Holmgren (if the stop-gap theory is true). Which brings me to...[/quote]

I agree that we should stick with him. I would have preferred Fassel myself but we chose Zorn. Why not see what he can do with a few years under his belt?

[quote]Very interesting take on the situation, Pain. I think 10 years is a bit long for a contract, but 10M/year over 5+ years would be enough garaunteed cash that Snyder would be "forced" to stick with his decision. I wouldnt like starting over from scratch, but i could live with it if it garaunteed 5+ years with a superbowl HC.

I know numerous people have commented that Cowher wouldnt come here because he's close to Marty, but Marty has gone on record saying he and Snyder are friends and he'd work for Snyder again... so what if Snyder hired Cowher as coach and Shotty as GM and committed to them for 5+ years? Something like THAT I could live with.[/quote]

Yeah, I know I've mentioned in the past that Marty and Snyder get along well now and I know (at least I've heard) that Cowher and Marty have talked to an extent about working together again. Schottenheimer has said he only wants a front office position now, and Cowher has said Schotteheimer is one guy he'd work for.

[quote]What I absolutely couldnt live with is Shanahan or Holmgren serving as coach AND GM... neither has done well with both responsibilities in the past. And Gruden shouldnt even be in the conversation. Maybe as a QB coach/OC but thats it.[/quote]

Word

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

[quote=irish;547928]Cowher isnt coming here ever. He wont put up with DS's way of running a team. Also, there is no way either Cowher of Shanahan would stay for 10 years. Besides DS not having that kind of patience, those are older men and they understand the meatgrinder that is NFL coaching and 10 years is a long time under that stress. If you ask me, Zorn should be the 10 year hire. [B]He younger and full of energy having never been thru the meat grinder.[/B] IMO, Zorn should stay for a minimum of 5 years no matter what happens but with an owner like DS that will never happen.[/quote]

As a side note:

Bill Cowher
[B]Born:[/B] May 8, 1957 (1957-05-08) (age 51)
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crafton,_Pennsylvania"][COLOR=#0000ff]Crafton, Pennsylvania[/COLOR][/URL]

Jim Zorn
[B]Born:[/B] May 10, 1953 (1953-05-10) (age 55)
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whittier,_California"][COLOR=#0000ff]Whittier, California[/COLOR][/URL]

Mike Shanahan
Date of birthAugust 24, 1952 (1952-08-24) (age 56)

Jon Gruden
Date of birthAugust 17, 1963 (1963-08-17) (age 45)

To be honest with you they all are about the same age other then Gruden but he's only 5 or 6 yrs off Cowher.

Re: Your thoughts "IF" Shanahan were to replace Zorn in 2010
 

There were many issues last yr. Piss pour coaching pool to pick from. No one would have known how well the other Rookie coach's would have done. DS was only looking for a HC cause he hand picked the OC, then had to offer it to the OC since no one wanted to come to the Skins in an already made staff. Most coach's would want to pick their own staff. DS was basically having difficulty locating any interested coach's for the position. I know it sounds good to say DS decided to go in other directions but truly how much of it was the coach's saying no I'm not interested. Except for Fassel. I think DS was truly looking at Fassel and I honestly believe, and I'm probably being nieve, that between fan and media pressure DS changed his mind. It's all about ticket sales and if a new coach does not inspire you then no one will show up.

Since we have finally changed to a WCO I think we should stick with it. If it means staying with Zorn so be it. If one of the other coach's run a WCO and Zorn is not getting it done then bring in the new coach. Totally switching back and forth system to system is going to hurt us more then help us.

Having said all that I'll flip flop now. Bringing in Shotty as GM and having Cowher as coach would be interesting.