Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick
 

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Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick
 

Glad NY didn't get him

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Yep, good for him. He's wanted out of KC for a few years now.

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Wow, they came back and got him. I thought that wasn't going to end up happening. Good for them.

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[quote=SmootSmack;548784]Wow, they came back and got him. I thought that wasn't going to end up happening. Good for them.[/quote]
Yeah, looked like that had stalled.. what was the original planned deal, a 2nd this year?

I heard Philly was looking at him in the past couple days. Should give Ryan another solid target.

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Now Pioli just has to leverage the Redskins rumored interest in Sanchez into a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and future 2nd from the Jets.

Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick
 

[url=http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/04/23/tony-gonzalez-reportedly-traded-to-the-atlanta-falcons/]Tony Gonzalez Reportedly Traded to the Atlanta Falcons --NFL FanHouse[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk72;548780]Glad NY didn't get him[/quote]

and Philly. I heard they were in the mix too...

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;548786]Now Pioli just has to leverage the Redskins rumored interest in Sanchez into a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and future 2nd from the Jets.[/quote]

.....what?

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Wow that Atlanta game just got a bit more tougher for us. I bet Gonzalez really has a nice year. KC is a franchise going nowhere.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;548786]Now Pioli just has to leverage the Redskins rumored interest in Sanchez into a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and future 2nd from the Jets.[/quote]

You're on to something here. Someone just emailed the Sports Reporters and mentioned a scary scenario ...

K.C. reportedly wants out of #3. Can someone say Cooley and the #13 spot for the Chiefs' 1st this year and the 2010 2nd rounder they just got from Atlanta? The Chiefs apparently have two 2nd round picks next year.

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similar to the Jason Taylor trade except that the Falcons didn't throw in a 5th rounder.

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[quote=Beemnseven;548835]You're on to something here. Someone just emailed the Sports Reporters and mentioned a scary scenario ...

K.C. reportedly wants out of #3. Can someone say [B]Cooley[/B] and the #13 spot for the Chiefs' 1st this year and the 2010 2nd rounder they just got from Atlanta? The Chiefs apparently have two 2nd round picks next year.[/quote]

I would be greatly upset with the FO if we trade Cooley away - he is one of the best TEs in NFL (plus he's young).. (Just as I would be w/ the FO if we draft Sanchez but) Unfortunately, my feelings nor any other fans' doesn't matter to Redskins FO and I would continue to be Redskins fan, no matter what.. That will be difficult for me - hating and loving Redskins at same time..

I know, we have Fred Davis but he hasn't shown anything on field yet.. Do we really want to gamble on Davis?

Re: Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta for a 2010 2nd round pick
 

[quote=Beemnseven;548835]You're on to something here. Someone just emailed the Sports Reporters and mentioned a scary scenario ...

K.C. reportedly wants out of #3. Can someone say Cooley and the #13 spot for the Chiefs' 1st this year and the 2010 2nd rounder they just got from Atlanta? The Chiefs apparently have two 2nd round picks next year.[/quote]

If this happens, (which it won't) then it's official that D$ clearly has nothing but contempt for the fans of his franchise and feels that he'll continue to sell out Fedex regardless of his boneheaded moves.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;548851]If this happens, (which it won't) then it's official that D$ clearly has nothing but contempt for the fans of his franchise and feels that he'll continue to sell out Fedex regardless of his boneheaded moves.[/quote]

Probably won't, but Scott Pioli is highly regarded for a reason. Only someone tutored by Bill Belichick could swindle us out of Chris Cooley for a college QB with only 16 games of experience.

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[quote=Redskins_P;548814]and Philly. I heard they were in the mix too...[/quote]

AGREED! You know how hard it would be to defend the eagles twice a year with a smart TE when our OLB spot is shaky right now...good thing we have to play him once this year, and matt ryans gonna look even better

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I'm not taking anything away from Gonzalez, who is a tight end god, but a #2 for him is too much. He's 33. At best they get a couple of declining years out of him. At worst he is Atlanta's Jason Taylor.

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Yeah he's only coming off his 2nd straight 1,000 yard season and 90+ catches

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Yes...and he is also a year older. I didn't argue that he was a has-been. I in fact called him a tight end god. I argued that it is he is at an age where decline begins.

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See ya in the playoffs, Tony! Welcome to the NFC...

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[quote=Lotus;549024]Yes...and he is also a year older. I didn't argue that he was a has-been. I in fact called him a tight end god. I argued that it is he is at an age where decline begins.[/quote]

Perhaps, but even if his play falls off to something like 60 catches for the next few years I think they'll get their moneys worth. Good deal for Atlanta especially considering they didn't have to give up a pick this year.

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I argued that a #2 is too steep a price. Gonzalez himself agreed with me last October:
[url=http://tonygonzalez88.com/home.htm]Welcome to the Official Website of Tony Gonzalez #88[/url]

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Too steep? I'm surprised they didn't get more for him actually.

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[quote=Mattyk72;549007]Yeah he's only coming off his 2nd straight 1,000 yard season and 90+ catches[/quote]

In a lame offense nonetheless. Now he's got Roddy White, Michael Turner, and no-longer-a-rookie QB Matt Ryan. He could have a few really good years in that ATL offense. Definitely worth a 2nd rounder a year from now. Good move for Atlanta.

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[quote=GMScud;549048]In a lame offense nonetheless. Now he's got Roddy White, Michael Turner, and no-longer-a-rookie QB Matt Ryan. He could have a few really good years in that ATL offense. Definitely worth a 2nd rounder a year from now. Good move for Atlanta.[/quote]

If they get some help on D with this draft they could be scary.

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[quote=Mattyk72;549051]If they get some help on D with this draft they could be scary.[/quote]

The fact that they have a legit, young set of triplets in Ryan, White, and Turner means to me they'll be good for a while. Their D needs a fair amount of help, but Mike Smith will have it up and running sooner rather than later.

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Yeah that offense is looking very formidable now.

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[quote=Mattyk72;549058]Yeah that offense is looking very formidable now.[/quote]Yeah, who would have thought there's more to building an NFL team than 1) picking in the top five, and 2) getting lucky with your evaluations. Not me, that's for sure.

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I have to be consistent here: I hated when the Redskins dealt a second rounder for a mid-30s player who was about to dropoff severely, and it doesn't make any more since for a young Falcons team. They really seem to be underestimating how much of that +7 win improvement was due to unrepeatable circumstance. Not unlike Cleveland last year.

With that said, they are still set on improving via the draft this year, so they have that on the Browns.

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[quote=GridIron26;548846]I would be greatly upset with the FO if we trade Cooley away - he is one of the best TEs in NFL (plus he's young).. (Just as I would be w/ the FO if we draft Sanchez but) Unfortunately, my feelings nor any other fans' doesn't matter to Redskins FO and I would continue to be Redskins fan, no matter what.. That will be difficult for me - hating and loving Redskins at same time..

I know, we have Fred Davis but he hasn't shown anything on field yet.. Do we really want to gamble on Davis?[/quote]

I like Chris Cooleys game bro he is just a beast when gets the ball in his hands. I hope instead of using Cooley we can trade Davis. He is young and has the skills to be a very good TE. We better keep Cooley or we must be losing our dam minds in the Front Office.

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[quote=Lotus;549024]Yes...and he is also a year older. I didn't argue that he was a has-been. I in fact called him a tight end god. I argued that it is he is at an age where decline begins.[/quote]

I agree with Lotus a 2nd round pick is to high for Tony. He has to adjust to a new system and QB. Not to mention he is a little older and injuries start to creep up on you. We thought it was a good deal to get Jason Taylor for a 2nd too but we see how he got injuried. Anything over 32 yrs in football unless your a punter,kicker, or QB is long in the tooth. This draft is deep at the TE postion.

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[quote=Beemnseven;548835]You're on to something here. Someone just emailed the Sports Reporters and mentioned a scary scenario ...

K.C. reportedly wants out of #3. Can someone say Cooley and the #13 spot for the Chiefs' 1st this year and the 2010 2nd rounder they just got from Atlanta? The Chiefs apparently have two 2nd round picks next year.[/quote]

Cooley's cap hit would be something like $11M.

Safe to say that's probably not gonna happen.