Panthers Extend Quarterback who Isn't as Good as Jason Campbell
 

[URL="http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Read.aspx?Story=1065"]BREAKING NEWS: Panthers extend QB Delhomme's contract for five years (updated) - CarolinaGrowl.com[/URL]

$20 million guaranteed, and he's now under contract through 2014 (when he will be 39). Well, isn't this the worst deal of the off-season, no disrespect to DeAngelo Hall.

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At least they are taking a stand with the Quarterback they have. The only thing we've done the last few years is play russian roulette with our QB's.

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wow, after that playoff meltdown??? Wouldn't have guessed this was coming.

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Most Panther fans across NC expressed a collective :doh: at hearing this news today.

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Delhomme isn't as good as Jason Campbell?

Wait. You know what ... nevermind.

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Gives them some cap flexibility

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Thats because the Skins don't wan't Jason as our QB it's obvious... Sal Palantonio just said on Espn that we are looking to trade Campbell to the Viks or Bucs if we can get
Sanchez.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;548860]Thats because the Skins don't wan't Jason as our QB it's obvious... Sal Palantonio just said on Espn that we are looking to trade Campbell to the Viks or Bucs if we can get
Sanchez.[/quote]

The Panthers extended Delhomme because we don't want Campbell?

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Delhomme earned the cash after throwing 5 picks in a playoff game. Campbell is better than that bum.

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No lol Gtripp is basically saying that if Jake D got a New deal then Campbell should too. I doubt we will re sign campbell is all i'm saying.

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[quote=dirtythirty;548865]Delhomme earned the cash after throwing 5 picks in a playoff game. Campbell is better than that bum.[/quote]

Hell yes he is, but for some reason the guy that DS traded up to get (JC) looks like he may be close to getting the shaft. JC is a good player and if we do trade him this weekend we may regret it!

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The Skins front office need to be fired, JC is our QB of the Future we need OL help. I don't care who our QB is if we don't get OL help they will have no chance.

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I think when the Skins didn't get Jay Cutler & they had the meeting with Jason Campbell, he must of told them i'm out after this season you can't afford me & i don't blame him for saying that.

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Jake D is better than Jason Campbell. Now the case could be made he is on the downside of a good career.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;548876]I think when the Skins didn't get Jay Cutler & they had the meeting with Jason Campbell, he must of told them i'm out after this season you can't afford me & i don't blame him for saying that.[/quote]

Dude who know's I think the skins FO just makes shit up most of the time. I'm a DIEHARD Skins fan but this crap is getting old. If we Trade up for Sanchez I won't be mad... I would be mad that they F****** JC the way they did.

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Jake D. is a streaky middle of the pack NFL QB. He has done some things that JC has not which is take his team to a SB. Good move by Carolina not hitting the panic button after the playoff disaster.

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Jake is a middle of the road guy but not as bad as some people want to think.

JC I think has a brighter future skills wise if he could just settle down with a team.

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This was the same FO that was rumored to be trading Peppers to New England for a 2nd rounder.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;548876]I think when the Skins didn't get Jay Cutler & they had the meeting with Jason Campbell, he must of told them i'm out after this season you can't afford me & i don't blame him for saying that.[/quote]

That would have been the logical thing to have happened. JC isn't a bad QB at all, but I think we have pretty much seen what we can expect from him. I agree with you also. A lot of JC's problems arise with the inadequacies in the O in general. The biggest part of my argument that he probably won't be resigned is that he is naturally going to expect a raise for someone in his position, and Snyder isn't going to give him that for what really amounts to just an above average performance thus far.

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JC better then Delhomme? um no. look at Won loss records, QB rating, TD:INT ratio.....

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[quote=Mattyk72;548900]Jake is a middle of the road guy but not as bad as some people want to think.

JC I think has a brighter future skills wise if he could just settle down with a team.[/quote]

This is how I see it
--------- Teir 1----------------
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning Types
----------Tier 2------------------------
Phillip Rivers and Kurt Warner Types
----------Tier 3------------------------
Eli Manning and Jake Daylightcomeandyougottadelome types
---------Tier 4--------------------------
Kyle Orton and Jason Campbell types
--------Tier 5------------------------
JaMarcus Rusell and 2008 Derrick Anderson Types
--------Tier 6-----------------------------
Dan Orlovskey and Ryan Fitzpatrick.


To me Sanchez's floor in two years is Tier 3. His Ceiling is Tier 2.

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When Campbell is in the position to actually throw a pass in the playoffs then I would possibly compare him to Joke Delhomme. Joke has an NFC championship under his belt and a playoff win in New York. Campbell may not even be a starter on opening day.

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gtripp, while i agree with you on most subjects, i playfully disagree here. the one thing Delhomme has that Campbell doesn't. and that's the ability to make plays

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[quote=Dirtbag359;549054]This is how I see it
--------- Teir 1----------------
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning Types
----------Tier 2------------------------
Phillip Rivers and Kurt Warner Types
----------Tier 3------------------------
Eli Manning and Jake Daylightcomeandyougottadelome types
---------Tier 4--------------------------
Kyle Orton and Jason Campbell types
--------Tier 5------------------------
JaMarcus Rusell and 2008 Derrick Anderson Types
--------Tier 6-----------------------------
Dan Orlovskey and Ryan Fitzpatrick.


To me Sanchez's floor in two years is Tier 3. His Ceiling is Tier 2.[/quote]I don't know why Eli is on a different tier than Campbell, but I think you'd have to switch Delhomme and Campbell, since Delhomme is a very Orton-esque player.

Also, I would think the run of the mill Orlovskys and Fitzpatricks of the world would be a tier above terrible players like Russell and 08 Anderson.

Either way, this was more of a news thread that was cleverly (or, not so much) disguised as a "Campbell ain't gettin no love" thread.

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And I'm surprised that a debate even broke out since it's been four years since the last time Delhomme has been even an average player. He had a breakout year in '03, his team was ravaged by injury in '04, and his career year came in '05. But since then, he's been bad, injured, and bad respectively.

Campbell on the other hand, has been sitting, then meh, then good, then good+ in his four years. So yeah, I'd say that he's already a more accomplished passer than Delhomme right now. Even the very worst of Campbell has been better than anything Delhomme has done in the last three seasons.

But Rex Grossman is a free agent if we want someone who has "been there" already. We don't need Campbell for that.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;548954]That would have been the logical thing to have happened. JC isn't a bad QB at all, but I think we have pretty much seen what we can expect from him. I agree with you also. A lot of JC's problems arise with the inadequacies in the O in general. [U][/U]The biggest part of my argument that he probably won't be resigned is that he is naturally going to expect a raise for someone in his position, and Snyder isn't going to give him that for what really amounts to just an above average performance thus far.[/quote]

[U][/U]Why not he gave Brandon Lloyd, Trotter,Adam Archuletta,Jason Taylor, and David Patten a raise to play like garbage.

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[quote=GTripp0012;549086][U][/U]And I'm surprised that a debate even broke out since it's been four years since the last time Delhomme has been even an average player. He had a breakout year in '03, his team was ravaged by injury in '04, and his career year came in '05. But since then, he's been bad, injured, and bad respectively.

Campbell on the other hand, has been sitting, then meh, then good, then good+ in his four years. So yeah, I'd say that he's already a more accomplished passer than Delhomme right now. Even the very worst of Campbell has been better than anything Delhomme has done in the last three seasons.

But Rex Grossman is a free agent if we want someone who has "been there" [U][/U]already. We don't need Campbell for that.[/quote]

You mean it doesn't take a Franchise QB (Grossman)to get his team to the Super Bowl. Tell that to Dan Synder and Vinne C. cause they must think Sanchez is a Franchise QB to have to move to get him when you have a capable QB in Campbell now.

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[quote=dmek25;549075]gtripp, while i agree with you on most subjects, i playfully disagree here. the one thing Delhomme has that Campbell doesn't. and that's the ability to make plays[/quote]

Maybe you need to watch the 49er game when came lead the offense down the field late in the 4th QT to take the lead. Our defense could not hold the lowly 49ers offense and they kicked a fg to win.

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Man I am from Charlotte. Jake is terrible. Ever see a picture of Campbell in the newspaper throwing the ball with his eyes closed. Jake has numerous pictures of him throwing the ball with his eyes closed. He is laugh around these parts.

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[quote=skins89moss;549102]Maybe you need to watch the 49er game when came lead the offense down the field late in the 4th QT to take the lead. Our defense could not hold the lowly 49ers offense and they kicked a fg to win.[/quote]
i saw the game. and remember the skins lost. making plays in losses doesn't count. and we are talking about the 49ers, right? Delhomme has been to the super bowl, right?im not saying the last couple of seasons were stellar. but some qbacks have the ability to make plays. im not sure Campbell does

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[quote=skins89moss;549102]Maybe you need to watch the 49er game when came lead the offense down the field late in the 4th QT to take the lead. Our defense could not hold the lowly 49ers offense and they kicked a fg to win.[/quote]

lol...one game....even Rex Grossman lead the Bears on an impressive drive here and there.

Did you know the 0-16 Detroit lions scored more offensive points then the Redskins did last year? ok the O-Line wasnt great, but how good was Detroits O line?

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[quote=redskins1974;549138]lol...one game....even Rex Grossman lead the Bears on an impressive drive here and there.

Did you know the 0-16 Detroit lions scored more offensive points then the Redskins did last year? ok the O-Line wasnt great, but how good was Detroits O line?[/quote]

And that got them zero wins.

Not really a relevant point.

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[quote=Mattyk72;549140]And that got them zero wins.

Not really a relevant point.[/quote]

Actually it is a relevant point. It didnt translate to wins because their defense stunk, nonetheless, they did score more offensive points.

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[quote=redskins1974;549146]Actually it is a relevant point. It didnt translate to wins because their defense stunk, nonetheless, they did score more offensive points.[/quote]

All it shows is there's no direct correlation between scoring points and winning football games.

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however you want to spin it....

but it looks more and more like it doesnt matter after saturday

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That's not spin, you pretty much made that very point whether you intended to or not. When an 0-16 team scores more points than an 8-8 team it simply shows there's much more to winning games than scoring points.

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you understand my point....there were 2-3 teams in the league that scored less points then us out of 32....that means your offense is not that good. though the QB is not the only part of the offense by any stretch, he is the main part.

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[quote=dirtythirty;548865]Delhomme earned the cash after throwing 5 picks in a playoff game. Campbell is better than that bum.[/quote]

How many picks has JC thrown in a playoff game? How many passes has JC thrown in the Super Bowl?

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;548875]I don't care who our QB is if we don't get OL help they will have no chance.[/quote]

this man speaks the truth

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[quote=Dirtbag359;549054]This is how I see it
--------- Teir 1----------------
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning Types
----------Tier 2------------------------
Phillip Rivers and Kurt Warner Types
----------Tier 3------------------------
Eli Manning and Jake Daylightcomeandyougottadelome types
---------Tier 4--------------------------
Kyle Orton and Jason Campbell types
--------Tier 5------------------------
JaMarcus Rusell and 2008 Derrick Anderson Types
--------Tier 6-----------------------------
Dan Orlovskey and Ryan Fitzpatrick.


To me Sanchez's floor in two years is Tier 3. His Ceiling is Tier 2.[/quote]

i have to ask, which tier is drew brees in?