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Redskin Warrior 04-24-2009 07:32 PM

Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Sign_O_Lineman_Williams_34250.jsp]Redskins Sign O-Lineman Williams[/url]

Redskin Warrior 04-24-2009 07:35 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
It looks like instead of drafting a O-Lineman they just signed one. It looks like Sanchez might be the pick tomorrow.

SmootSmack 04-24-2009 08:01 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
Not a bad pick if he can stay healthy, except he hasn't been able to

Remarkable run of accumulating 1st round picks from 2002 though-Williams, Duckett, Rumph, Ramsey, Haynesworth and Robert Thomas

redskin37 04-24-2009 08:26 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
If Williams stays healthy this could be a very good sign. The back health seem to be the problem.

Stuck in TX 04-24-2009 08:31 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
depth is good...

nimbh2 04-24-2009 08:35 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
i just read a a article snyder says he isn trading up from the 13th spot so i think we are going defense

WaldSkins 04-24-2009 08:40 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=nimbh2;549719]i just read a a article snyder says he isn trading up from the 13th spot so i think we are going defense[/quote]

There is so much smoke screening going on right now that you can't believe anything you hear.

Trample the Elderly 04-24-2009 08:59 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
Camp Fodder :sleep:

Lotus 04-24-2009 09:04 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=nimbh2;549719]i just read a a article snyder says he isn trading up from the 13th spot so i think we are going defense[/quote]

That's not exactly what Snyder said. He said that we are not going to spend next year's #1 to move up. There's a difference.

nimbh2 04-24-2009 09:09 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
thats probally what its going take to move fo anything worth while

The Goat 04-24-2009 09:34 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
Silly signing IMO...if were not gonna get a legit guy in the draft we should commit to set money aside to sign one in FA...Levi Jones as i mention or another.

ArtMonkDrillz 04-24-2009 09:40 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
We don't need another crappy receiver. Oh, wait...

SmootSmack 04-24-2009 10:00 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
This could be a very good pick up or another Erasmus James.

But with Dockery and M. Williams they're certainly making efforts to improve the line

skinsfan_nn 04-24-2009 10:09 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=nimbh2;549719]i just read a a article snyder says he isn trading up from the 13th spot so i think we are going defense[/quote]

If this is what you were reading..? You might want to reread!

On to thread. I'm not expecting much from Williams. Hopefully I will be wrong.

Updated: April 24, 2009, 9:29 PM ET
[B]Redskins won't trade first-round pick [/B]


Associated Press


ASHBURN, Va. -- [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was"]Washington Redskins[/URL] owner Dan Snyder says his team will not trade its first-round pick in 2010 in an attempt to move up Saturday in the NFL draft.
"We're not going to be trading next year's 1," Snyder told radio station ESPN980 in an interview Friday. "We've already said that several times."
The Redskins have the No. 13 choice in the first round this year, and there has been speculation the team might want to try to move up in order to select Southern Cal quarterback Mark Sanchez.
"We're really not as a franchise comfortable trading first-round draft picks," Snyder said. "I don't think it's a wise move to keep trading that pick. It's always a little bit risky."
He noted that the only time his club recently did swap the following year's No. 1 pick, it was to acquire quarterback [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8440"]Jason Campbell[/URL] in 2005 -- "and it worked out quite well," Snyder said.

GMScud 04-24-2009 10:38 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
He'll be lucky to make it through training camp. But it's not a bad signing. No risk, possibly a decent reward. I highly doubt this changes our draft strategy regarding the O-line.

JoeRedskin 04-24-2009 10:49 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
Erasmus James redux - except this time we don't risk a draft pick.

Lotus 04-24-2009 10:49 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=nimbh2;549746]thats probally what its going take to move fo anything worth while[/quote]

Oh, come on. Our first this year, our third this year, and Laron Landry would get something done.

I'm not saying that we should do this - in fact I might kill myself if we did. I'm even on record saying that the move-up talk is just crap.

But the fact is that teams trade more than just draft picks. If we really wanted to move up, we could.

skins89moss 04-24-2009 10:50 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
It worth the chance if Williams does make the team it only will improve our O-Line depth.
Here's the problem ,this is the NFL its really difficult to be out 2 season with injuries and come back and play at a High Level. Good Luck Mike Williams we are pulling for you.

sportscurmudgeon 04-24-2009 11:21 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
M. Williams is a right tackle - - correct?

Didn't we hear from a fully knowledgeable and unimpeqachable Redskins' source that if Stephon Heyer could only remember to bend his knees that he was "unbeatable"? So, why do they need to sign a right tackle who has had as many injuries in the past two years as Chad Reinhart had butt-splinters last year?

Please...

Did I miss the fact that the Bills had one of the top OLs in history last year? Well, if they didn't, why are the Skins taking two of the guys they were willing to get rid of?

If the Redskins want a RT - - or depth at RT in case the "unbeatable" S. Heyer is injured - - there is someone named J. Runyon unsigned. If you want to take a chance on a RT coming off an injury who has demonstrated superior play in the NFL, why not sign Runyon and tell Williams to take up piano moving for a career?

Dr Do Itch Big 04-24-2009 11:23 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
good signing maybe we luck up?

Ruhskins 04-24-2009 11:26 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=Dr Do Itch Big;549822]good signing maybe we luck up?[/quote]

Maybe we can inject him with whatever Darth Hoody in New England used to squeeze a year or two out of Junior Seau.

Lotus 04-24-2009 11:33 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;549821]M. Williams is a right tackle - - correct?

Didn't we hear from a fully knowledgeable and unimpeqachable Redskins' source that if Stephon Heyer could only remember to bend his knees that he was "unbeatable"? So, why do they need to sign a right tackle who has had as many injuries in the past two years as Chad Reinhart had butt-splinters last year?

Please...

[B]Did I miss the fact that the Bills had one of the top OLs in history last year? Well, if they didn't, why are the Skins taking two of the guys they were willing to get rid of?[/B]

If the Redskins want a RT - - or depth at RT in case the "unbeatable" S. Heyer is injured - - there is someone named J. Runyon unsigned. If you want to take a chance on a RT coming off an injury who has demonstrated superior play in the NFL, why not sign Runyon and tell Williams to take up piano moving for a career?[/quote]

I like Runyan, too, but only for the short term.

As for Williams, he left the Bills several years ago. Played very briefly with the Jags. Hasn't played at all for a couple of years.

skinsnut 04-24-2009 11:36 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
I think this is good draft insurance in case we miss out on one of the top 4 OT's.
It also gives us the flexibility to think Dline, LBs.

The other thing it does is it gives an impression to those picking below us that they dont have to jump us if they need an OT...it is quite possible that this is all part of this Sanchez talk anyways....at least that is what I believe.

This is a solid pick up...even if he cant stay healthy 100%...this guy has a ton of potential as long as we can keep him healthy....arguably...the guy could start...although, I'm not sure we'd want to depend on that...but out of Heyer, Williams and Jansen, I am sure they can handle 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down

diehardskin2982 04-24-2009 11:37 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
I honestly think this is a good sign. If he can get anywhere close to what he was the line will be that much stronger. I hope he starts to train with phillip Daniels because it will help him to become stronger.

sportscurmudgeon 04-24-2009 11:39 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
Lotus:

So with that history, someone thinks this is a "great signing"? There was a time when people thought he was worth a first round pick. That was six years ago - - or was it seven? In the intervening years he has distinguished himself by doing what?

The Skins signed him; he will come to camp. If there is a spate of OL injuries, he will make the team and play - - meaning the Skins' season is likely doomed. Absent the spate of injuries, he will pack his bags and leave Redskins Park in search of an NFL team that DID have a spate of OL injuries in training camp...

Ruhskins 04-24-2009 11:47 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
Unless we gave up a ton of money (which I doubt we did) can people stop bitching about this signing? I agree, it is not the best signing, but it's the worst, ok?

Lotus 04-25-2009 12:10 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=sportscurmudgeon;549839]Lotus:

So with that history, someone thinks this is a "great signing"? There was a time when people thought he was worth a first round pick. That was six years ago - - or was it seven? In the intervening years he has distinguished himself by doing what?

The Skins signed him; he will come to camp. If there is a spate of OL injuries, he will make the team and play - - meaning the Skins' season is likely doomed. Absent the spate of injuries, he will pack his bags and leave Redskins Park in search of an NFL team that DID have a spate of OL injuries in training camp...[/quote]

I think you are right on the spot. As for me, I like the signing just in terms of increasing competition for backup spots. I would not call the signing "great."

gw0103 04-25-2009 06:30 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
Williams could be a worthwhile addition, adding versatility( who knows when
either Thomas, Heyer, Jansen or even Our iron man Samuels will go down)
at the OG and OT spots. Williams has experience playing both positions and
could be vital mid to late season... with that said, I'd still give Runyan a look.

John Denny 04-25-2009 08:07 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=The Goat;549754]Silly signing IMO...if were not gonna get a legit guy in the draft we should commit to set money aside to sign one in FA...Levi Jones as i mention or another.[/quote]

agreed. Mike Williams has been a bust. I'm surprised we didn't draft him.

MTK 04-25-2009 08:19 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
Not sure what's not to like here. He's probably getting the vet min. Let's see what he can do.

KI Skins Fan 04-25-2009 08:40 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
For goodness sakes, people, lighten up! They are just going to give the guy a chance. It's no big deal. It doesn't affect anything else. There's no risk. All of the recent QB/Draft drama seems to have everyone here on edge.

vallin21 04-25-2009 08:50 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
This could be a huge steal if his back is healthy.

bisontee 04-25-2009 09:01 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=vallin21;549988]This could be a huge steal if his back is healthy.[/quote]

Just like Erasmus James was a big steal after he came back ready to play of 2008.

If these guys are considered steals I would hate to be a cleptomanic.

MTK 04-25-2009 09:04 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=bisontee;549995]Just like Erasmus James was a big steal after he came back ready to play of 2008.

If these guys are considered steals I would hate to be a cleptomanic.[/quote]

Except we're not giving up any picks

RiggoDrill 04-25-2009 09:13 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
Based on what I heard what Danny and Vinny on the radio yesterday, this signing will have no impact on how the Skins draft today. Vinny explained the front office's unyielding devotion to "the board." If I understood him correctly, if at any time today an o-lineman is the highest rated player on "the board" the Skins will draft him, regardless of need. People may not agree with that mentality, but at least it is a plan that they are sticking to.
It makes good sense to bring in the maximum number of players allowed to training camp/preseaon. People get injured, don't pan out, get cut, etc. etc. What is the harm in signing someone like Williams? Especially since the team gave up nothing to bring him in.

vallin21 04-25-2009 09:43 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=bisontee;549995]Just like Erasmus James was a big steal after he came back ready to play of 2008.

If these guys are considered steals I would hate to be a cleptomanic.[/quote]

This is a 1 yr deal

BrudLee 04-25-2009 09:50 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
This signing is probably being done out of respect to Dockery, and as a veteran minimum deal. Williams hasn't played in over a year, but has been working out for the past few months with Dockery at his home. I'm sure Derrick came in and vouched for Williams' desire and conditioning, which made it possible.

In my opinion, we can sign a thousand pieces of crap (and Williams [u]may[/u] not be one) to vet min deals this time of year - they don't hurt us in the salary cap, and maybe they pan out or push a starter.

mrreddman 04-25-2009 09:55 AM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
I like the move. He damn sure has the size. Its a low risk move that could benefit us if he is serious and healthy.

Superman13732 04-25-2009 02:32 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
I hope this guy can stay healthy. He is a BEAST, 6-6 370. But again, lets hope he can stay healthy.

And as for the whole draft topic, im as big a supporter as there is that we need to get a DE in the draft to work with Haynesworth, however, Sanchez appears to be the real deal, and even though JC will "demand" a trade, maybe its a good thing, he is in his contract year... maybe we can get a janitor or something for him.

diehard 04-26-2009 05:16 PM

re: Skins Sign O-Lineman Mike Williams
 
[quote=nimbh2;549719]i just read a a article snyder says he isn trading up from the 13th spot so i think we are going defense[/quote]You called it.


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