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Redskin Warrior 05-06-2009 10:23 PM

Roy Williams Agree To Terms With Cincy
 
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Redskin Warrior 05-06-2009 10:24 PM

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4147302]Former Dallas Cowboys safety Roy Williams to reunite with Mike Zimmer with Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN[/url]

Lotus 05-06-2009 10:33 PM

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It's a shame that we can't throw on Cinci this year.

Zerohero 05-06-2009 11:16 PM

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Never seen a guy make 5 pro bowls in 7 years get ragged on so much
. Its proven you put him in the right situation he will be effective. Going with a former coach will help i'm sure.

Pocket$ $traight 05-06-2009 11:19 PM

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[quote=Zerohero;555553]Never seen a guy make 5 pro bowls in 7 years get ragged on so much
. Its proven you put him in the right situation he will be effective. Going with a former coach will help i'm sure.[/quote]

Well at least 2 if not more were undeserved. I am not even kidding.

The guy has zero coverage skills. Just watch the Washington and New Orleans games from '06. It was embarrassing.

SkinzzFan 05-06-2009 11:53 PM

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;555554]Well at least 2 if not more were undeserved. I am not even kidding.

The guy has zero coverage skills. Just watch the Washington and New Orleans games from '06. It was embarrassing.[/quote]

Agree 100%. He was, for a period of time, the most overrated player in the league. He should go in the Redskins ring of honor for all the plays Moss and Cooley made at his expense. LOL.

HAIL!!

53Fan 05-07-2009 12:13 AM

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[quote=SkinzzFan;555558]Agree 100%. He was, for a period of time, the most overrated player in the league. [B] He should go in the Redskins ring of honor for all the plays Moss and Cooley made at his expense[/B]. LOL.

HAIL!![/quote]

:laughing- Really. He should have been drawing a paycheck from Danny while he was in Dallas.

Ruhskins 05-07-2009 12:32 AM

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Called it!! :laughing2
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/27648-2009-free-agents-66.html[/url]

[quote=Ruhskins;555459]Roy Williams is going to Cincy...

[url=http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/agent-bengals-agree-with-roy/25e6fe92-e7ff-4c7e-ae4a-e61a1d5c8249]Agent: Bengals agree with Roy[/url]

[B]Anyone wants to bet that someone will start a thread about this? (Raising the # of Roy Williams threads to three)[/B] LOL.[/quote]

I swear, this website is become too predictable. LOL.

FRPLG 05-07-2009 01:15 AM

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[quote=Zerohero;555553]Never seen a guy make 5 pro bowls in 7 years get ragged on so much
. Its proven you put him in the right situation he will be effective. Going with a former coach will help i'm sure.[/quote]

He's awful. He never was deserving of the Pro Bowl. Major hype as a lowly Safety got him 5 free tickets to Oahu. He stole those spots. He's actually worse than Alstott as far as over-hyped.

Redskin Warrior 05-07-2009 11:27 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;555562]Called it!! :laughing2
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/27648-2009-free-agents-66.html[/url]



I swear, this website is become too predictable. LOL.[/quote]

I didn't see that post plus it's to hard to follow that specific thread. After you get ten pages out the loop you just don't bother opening that thread up.

tryfuhl 05-07-2009 12:05 PM

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;555666]I didn't see that post plus it's to hard to follow that specific thread. After you get ten pages out the loop you just don't bother opening that thread up.[/quote]
werd

Ruhskins 05-07-2009 12:09 PM

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;555666]I didn't see that post plus it's to hard to follow that specific thread. After you get ten pages out the loop you just don't bother opening that thread up.[/quote]

No worries, I found it funny because there were two other Roy Williams thread (well one is old and the other one was locked).

I wonder if he (RW) is going to be hyped into another Pro Bowl.

sandtrapjack 05-08-2009 09:11 AM

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[quote=Zerohero;555553]Never seen a guy make 5 pro bowls in 7 years get ragged on so much
. Its proven you put him in the right situation he will be effective. Going with a former coach will help i'm sure.[/quote]
Well that didn't work in Dallas either. Dave Campo was the coach that originally drafted Williams in Dallas and for the last 2 seasons was actually his secondary coach. And that reunion did nothing to help RW's liabilities in coverage.

Williams simply had to get out of the 3-4 defensive scheme, and when Dallas switched to the 3-4 under Parcells, is when RW really declined in production. He also started falling off when Darren Woodson retired.

Now that he is in a 4-3, he will do better. With 4 linemen up front creating space for him to attack the line of scrimmage, he will do well against the run. In a 3-4, many times the OLB has to drop of into the flats and that left RW having to take on Guards, Tackles and Fullbacks one-on-one and he got owned. He's just too small to be a LB and too big to be a CB or Safety.

freddyg12 05-08-2009 09:19 AM

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I actually always thought a lot of people were too hard on RW. Granted, he's poor in deep coverage or straight man on man, but as a true strong safety he could cover in the flats & intimidate recievers across the middle. He's definitely not a cover 2 safety though.

MTK 05-08-2009 09:22 AM

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He's not a cover anything safety. Teams have figured this out over the years to the point now I don't think he can be an effective player and he's more liability than asset.

mredskins 05-08-2009 11:07 AM

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MAybe this will erase Adam A. as the worst S sgining ever. Of course we made him the highest paid ever.

SBXVII 05-08-2009 11:13 AM

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I can't for the life of me see why Cinci picked him up. I mean the NFC East is the hardest division. If you put your mind right down to it ....if Williams was all that great wouldn't it stand to reason one of the other NFC East teams would have been making a play for his services? It speaks volumes that none of the other three teams in the division who played against him twice a yr made a play for him.

Good luck Cinci.

SmootSmack 05-08-2009 11:24 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;556034]I can't for the life of me see why Cinci picked him up. I mean the NFC East is the hardest division. If you put your mind right down to it ....if Williams was all that great wouldn't it stand to reason one of the other NFC East teams would have been making a play for his services? It speaks volumes that none of the other three teams in the division who played against him twice a yr made a play for him.

Good luck Cinci.[/quote]

Maybe he wanted to get out of the tough NFC East a la Demetric Evans

sandtrapjack 05-08-2009 04:10 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;556045]Maybe he wanted to get out of the tough NFC East a la Demetric Evans[/quote]

Three reasons why Williams left the NFC Beast:

1. Chris Cooley
2. Kevin Boss
3. Jason Witten

TE's have career days going up against Williams in coverage. Before he left for New Orleans, Shockey had his best recieving day of his career against Williams.

Kind of hard to find another division in the entire league that is stack that well at TE. Maybe one team here and there, but not all of them in the division.

djnemo65 05-08-2009 08:11 PM

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[quote=Zerohero;555553]Never seen a guy make 5 pro bowls in 7 years get ragged on so much
. Its proven you put him in the right situation he will be effective. Going with a former coach will help i'm sure.[/quote]

I think it was Peter King who recently quoted an NFL personnel executive as saying that Williams is completely done; the game has changed so much that there is no longer a place for line of scrimmage run stopping safeties.


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