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Well Nancy Pelosi has been all over the place on what she knew and now she says that the CIA lied to congress about enhanced interrogation techniques. She also said that she approved some enhanced interrogation techniques so the Dems could win control. What? She put her party before the safty of her country.
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To me, Nancy Pelosi = fingernails on a chalkboard.

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[quote=GMScud;557518]To me, Nancy Pelosi = fingernails on a chalkboard.[/quote]
I'll agree. While a disagree with Obama I still like him personally but Nancy is a much different story. I think she is lying and now trying to cover her butt with more lies and is digging herself into a hole.

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Nancy Pelosi is total trash. She had so many chances to be against waterboarding years ago when this all started and she knowlingly went along with it. Now she is going against it and lying about what happened before purely for political reasons.

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Are you telling me there are Democratic leaders in Congress that lie and tells shades of truth to cover their own asses? no....

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[quote=Monksdown;557563]Are you telling me there are Democratic leaders in Congress that lie and tells shades of truth to cover their own asses? no....[/quote]

It's called being a politician

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[quote=FRPLG;557567]It's called being a politician[/quote]

You know as great as this country is why the hell can we not get decent honest people in Washington?

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Plastic Pelosi ,,, dishonest ,,, say it isn't so . She does like free speech ..[url=http://archives.cnn.com/2001/LAW/01/08/nambla.suit.crim/]CNN.com - Parents of murdered child sue child-sex advocates - January 8, 2001[/url] . As Pelosi defended nambla's right to " free speech " .

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Don't ever eff with the CIA... (they stink at espionage but they are masters of internal Washington politics, just ask Scooter Libby)


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[quote=firstdown;557587]You know as great as this country is why the hell can we not get decent honest people in Washington?[/quote]

Because it's so much easier to make more money in the private sector honestly. Well. . . . It used to be.

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Honestly, unless the Democrats call off these threatened hearings and so forth, I think Pelosi is finished. Steny Hoyer is already warming up in the bullpen. The CIA will drip, drip, drip until the Democrats decide to throw her aside. Of course, if all the hearings/truth comission talk subsides, the CIA might consider standing down. However, Leahy and the others are pretty well comitted so they may decide that losing Pelosi is worth the trouble. She was always a weak speaker anyways. Weakness was her greatest strength. Murtha, Obey, Waxman and the other committee chairmen enjoyed being able to have a free run because she was so weak. That won't be enough to save her from this, though.

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why does it always seem that republicans have problems with women in power? you guys hate Pelosi, hated Hilliary. any woman you guys like? i know, old gap tooth her self

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[quote=dmek25;557664]why does it always seem that republicans have problems with women in power? you guys hate Pelosi, hated Hilliary. any woman you guys like? i know, old gap tooth her self[/quote]

What a blanket generalization. Pelosi could be a walrus (male or female) and I think the opinion of many of her would not change (it may improve!). I think for most people, including Republicans, it has nothing to do with her being a woman.

To just throw out the Republicans have problems with women in power is pretty ignorant and insulting.

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[quote=firstdown;557587]You know as great as this country is why the hell can we not get decent honest people in Washington?[/quote]

There's too much personal benefit from the job.

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[quote=dmek25;557664]why does it always seem that republicans have problems with women in power? you guys hate Pelosi, hated Hilliary. any woman you guys like? i know, old gap tooth her self[/quote]
I hate to be a turd, but female irrationality from having their decisions oft dictated by emotion, isn't exactly an efficient model of power. Of course there are exceptions that wear pant suits, but I guess someone had to say it. It isn't meant as sexism; I'm sure we've all had good female bosses and leaders but just as many if not more where you just palm your face as well.

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[quote=tryfuhl;557673]I hate to be a turd, but female irrationality from having their decisions oft dictated by emotion, isn't exactly an efficient model of power. Of course there are exceptions that wear pant suits, but I guess someone had to say it. It isn't meant as sexism; I'm sure we've all had good female bosses and leaders but just as many if not more where you just palm your face as well.[/quote]

I certainly don't share your opinion here, but judging by what you're saying I guess more people think Jason Campbell should act like a woman?

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[quote=tryfuhl;557673]I hate to be a turd, but female irrationality from having their decisions oft dictated by emotion, isn't exactly an efficient model of power. Of course there are exceptions that wear pant suits, but I guess someone had to say it. It isn't meant as sexism; I'm sure we've all had good female bosses and leaders but just as many if not more where you just palm your face as well.[/quote]

Congrats on being a turd. A giant one at that.

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[quote=firstdown;557587]You know as great as this country is why the hell can we not get decent honest people in Washington?[/quote]

I think term limits in Congress would help. It'll never happen, but it would certainly help.

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They are all...[B][I]ALL[/I][/B]...crooked as the letter "S". Not one of these politicians can be trusted anymore. There are far too many people & ideas to try to please so they revert to simply trying to please themselves & their own selfish agendas, regardless of what those agendas are. I cannot imagine anyone in today's age being surprised by the fact that someone in our government lied to us.

What I'm surprised about is when someone in ANY area of government actually takes accountability for his/her actions & tells the truth. And not their version of the truth, but the actual truth. Now, that shocks the daylights out of me. Mainly because it never really happens.

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[quote=tryfuhl;557673]I hate to be a turd, but female irrationality from having their decisions oft dictated by emotion, isn't exactly an efficient model of power. Of course there are exceptions that wear pant suits, but I guess someone had to say it. It isn't meant as sexism; I'm sure we've all had good female bosses and leaders but just as many if not more where you just palm your face as well.[/quote]

I tell ya what, I would rather have a female boss over some of the male bosses I have had any day of the week & twice on Sunday. I have had, for the most part, very good female bosses, but all the men seem to want to have penis measuring contests with every other male they come in contact with. "I'm the boss, get it? Nothing you say matters!" Never really had that problem with a woman.

That being said, I hate Hillary, but that really has little to do with her being a woman. I think she is so far up her own ass that she would be a detriment to this country because of her agendas. Her being a woman is subsequent.

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[quote=SmootSmack;557676]I certainly don't share your opinion here, but judging by what you're saying I guess more people think Jason Campbell should act like a woman?[/quote]

Very well played sir.

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[quote=dmek25;557664]why does it always seem that republicans have problems with women in power? you guys hate Pelosi, hated Hilliary. any woman you guys like? i know, old gap tooth her self[/quote]
What a bunch of crap.

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[quote=GMScud;557687]I think term limits in Congress would help. It'll never happen, but it would certainly help.[/quote]
I always believed that we had term limits in the fact that we could vote them out at any given time. At this time I would support term limits of like one term of 6 years then they go back home.

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[quote=firstdown;557791]What a bunch of crap.[/quote]
got any women in mind, that you like? other then your wife? what about Hilliary?

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[quote=tryfuhl;557673]I hate to be a turd, but female irrationality from having their decisions oft dictated by emotion, isn't exactly an efficient model of power. Of course there are exceptions that wear pant suits, but I guess someone had to say it. It isn't meant as sexism; I'm sure we've all had good female bosses and leaders but just as many if not more where you just palm your face as well.[/quote]

I've had a lot of bosses in federal and private employment, male and female.
The douchebags are pretty evenly distributed among both sexes. I've had incredible female bosses and some absolutely mind numbing idiots. Same goes for the guys.

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[quote=dmek25;557816]got any women in mind, that you like? other then your wife? what about Hilliary?[/quote]
I like all people and do not look at sex race or any other thing like that. Most of the time when I really notice that is when its pointed out by someone else as you have done here. I personaly don't trust Hillary but I would say the same thing about her husband. We are talking about politicians and I feel the same way about a bunch of them on the right.

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What does her gender have to do with the fact that she's a liar?

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Even if she is lying, which will be pretty hard to prove, I still don't think her Speakership (is that correct?) is in jeopardy. Pelosi didn't torture anyone, didn't directly authorize any acts of torture, and hasn't committed any acts of treason that we're aware of. At best she stuck her foot in her mouth and probably should have just shut the hell up and let this play out like most smart pols on both sides.

The people that are the most outspoken on this issue, besides the media, are Newt and Cheney. Neither of which currently hold a public office and have nothing to very little at risk politically. Even the White House is trying to move on from this.

The more this issue get's volleyed back and forth it will be perceived as nothing more than attacks for political gain. And in that sense I think Pelosi's job is safe.

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Didn't the G.O.P. just run a woman for V.P.? What's her face?

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[quote=GTripp0012;557957]Didn't the G.O.P. just run a woman for V.P.? What's her face?[/quote]


Oh, that was Miss California.

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[quote=12thMan;557967]Oh, that was Miss California.[/quote]

She can have my vote and my baby. Giggity giggity :woot:

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[quote=12thMan;557944]Even if she is lying, which will be pretty hard to prove, I still don't think her Speakership (is that correct?) is in jeopardy. Pelosi didn't torture anyone, didn't directly authorize any acts of torture, and hasn't committed any acts of treason that we're aware of. At best she stuck her foot in her mouth and probably should have just shut the hell up and let this play out like most smart pols on both sides.

The people that are the most outspoken on this issue, besides the media, are Newt and Cheney. Neither of which currently hold a public office and have nothing to very little at risk politically. Even the White House is trying to move on from this.

The more this issue get's volleyed back and forth it will be perceived as nothing more than attacks for political gain. And in that sense I think Pelosi's job is safe.[/quote]
It the dems who called for the investigation and the possibility of bring charges up against people who gave the OK to waterboard. On top of that Pelosi was ranking member of the Intelligence Committee when all this happened. Either she is lying or she was not doing her job at the time this occured.

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[quote=firstdown;557969]It the dems who called for the investigation and the possibility of bring charges up against people who gave the OK to waterboard. On top of that Pelosi was ranking member of the Intelligence Committee when all this happened. Either she is lying or she was not doing her job at the time this occured.[/quote]

Well what Dems are you talking about? Certainly not all of them. And there are some Republicans who feel the same way. And though they aren't actively pushing for an investigation some are on record saying, if laws were broken there should be some legal recourse.

Look, this is messy and people are very conflicted on both sides. Is torture wrong, of course it is. Did people feel it was so wrong and immoral following 9/11, probably not. And that's [I]not [/I]being discusssed as much in the national media. The mood of the country was different then than it is right now. At the moment there's still this anti-Bush sentiment in the air and Dems are feeling themselves (my momma used to use that term, still don't what it means) following Obama's win.

I just think it will be difficult, though not impossible, for Pelosi to get ousted over what amounts to he said, she said, what I meant to say. Especially given some credibiltiy issues within the Agency itself and now Bob Graham, former Chair of the Intel Committee, also disputing these briefings.

Anyway, back to Miss California. Oh wait, Pelosi is from California.

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[quote=12thMan;557983]Well what Dems are you talking about? Certainly not all of them. And there are some Republicans who feel the same way. And though they aren't actively pushing for an investigation, some are on record saying, if laws were broken there should be some legal recourse.

Look, this is messy and people are very conflicted on both sides. Is torture wrong, of course it is. Did people feel it was so wrong and immoral following 9/11, probably not. And that's [I]not [/I]being discusssed as much in the national media. The mood of the country was different then than it is right now. At the moment there's still this anti-Bush sentiment in the air and Dems are feeling themselves (my momma used to use that term, still don't what it means) following Obama's win.

I just think it will be difficult, though not impossible, for Pelosi to get ousted over what amounts to he said, she said, what I meant to say. Especially given some credibiltiy issues within the Agency itself and now Bob Graham, former Chair of the Intel Committee, also disputing these briefings.

Anyway, back to Miss California. Oh wait, Pelosi is from California.[/quote]
Pelosi her self was pushing for the truth investigation and thats how all of this got started. I agree with you that right after 9/11 the American people would have just about given the OK to do just about anything. I personaly don't think it is torture but thats my opinion and I respect other who feel differently.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;557911]What does her gender have to do with the fact that she's a liar?[/quote]

Chris Rock ring a bell?


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[quote=dmek25;557664]why does it always seem that republicans have problems with women in power? you guys hate Pelosi, hated Hilliary. any woman you guys like? i know, old gap tooth her self[/quote]
Sarah Palin ,bettsy Ross , Ann Coulter , Danica Patrick , Shilrley M. , Nancy Reagan , Miss California , Anna Kournikova , Leeann Tweeden ,,,, I can name a few ,,, time to grab a cold beer ,,,, good night fellow SKINS Fans . Oh , If Democrats wanted a women in the white house , they should have nominated Hillary ,,, or vote McCain - Palin , Democrats , not Republicans are the reason for a women not being elected .

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[quote=firstdown;557587]You know as great as this country is why the hell can we not get decent honest people in Washington?[/quote]

I think people in every country ask themselves this about their own government.

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[quote=firstdown;557587]You know as great as this country is why the hell can we not get decent honest people in Washington?[/quote]

Ain't that the truth!

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[quote=SmootSmack;557671]What a blanket generalization. Pelosi could be a walrus (male or female) and I think the opinion of many of her would not change (it may improve!). I think for most people, including Republicans, it has nothing to do with her being a woman.

To just throw out the Republicans have problems with women in power is pretty ignorant and insulting.[/quote]


Nonsense. It's the Dems who hate women. Everytime I turn on Chris Matthews he's going after Palin or Michelle Bachman or Marsha Blackburn or Kay Hutchinson. This is a lame defense. The GOP has strong independent women.Te Dems have a weak, obdurate, simpleton. Everyone in town knows she's lying. It's only a matter of time before Hoyer initiates the coup. (The CIAs first successful one since Suharto if I'm not mistaken).

I qouted the wrong post. Sorry, SS. Too effed at this hour to change it. Bad cricket, I know, but to find the original quote would be such a chore. I'm afraid I'll once again have to play Lord Lindsay to your Harold Abrahams. Ever so sorry.

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we went from Bush and co. saying they didnt torture. to, OK, we did, but only in certain situations. to, OK, we did, but torture isn't that bad. to, now, Pelosi knew. i say lets have that investigation. then we will really find out who the liars are.