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SmootSmack 05-15-2009 12:35 AM

Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[url=http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawksblog/2009220582_shaun_alexander_15.html?syndication=rss]Seahawks Blog | Shaun Alexander: "Sometimes, unfortunately, I was only compared to myself." | Seattle Times Newspaper[/url]

[QUOTE]Alexander is not on a roster, but he is not retired, either. He said he is working with new trainers in New Jersey and hopes that something might pan out with Washington, where he played four games last season.[/QUOTE]

What the??? Do the Redskins know about this. SA was a beast five years ago, but what can he offer now?

tryfuhl 05-15-2009 12:51 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;557682]

What the??? [b]Do the Redskins know about this.[/b] SA was a beast five years ago, but what can he offer now?[/quote]

That part cracked me up. I wonder if he feels he has something to prove, needs a new check, or what. It does seem he's lost it, but who knows, he might be able to come back for a good couple of years with the right team. I mean, we have a guy we signed that hasn't even played since 2005, much less been an MVP since then.

Good luck to the guy, but I'm not sure that here is the place.

GridIron26 05-15-2009 12:53 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
I will be shocked if Redskins actually signs him

GMScud 05-15-2009 12:59 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;557682][URL="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawksblog/2009220582_shaun_alexander_15.html?syndication=rss"]Seahawks Blog | Shaun Alexander: "Sometimes, unfortunately, I was only compared to myself." | Seattle Times Newspaper[/URL]



What the??? Do the Redskins know about this. SA was a beast five years ago, [B]but what can he offer now?[/B][/quote]

At this stage in his career, SA brings absolutely nothing to the field that we don't already have in Portis and Betts. Nothing.

Seattle gave him the obligatory large contract extension after his MVP season, and he's never been the same.

Ruhskins 05-15-2009 01:04 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
Wait, didn't the Redskins cut him??

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3726118]Former MVP Shaun Alexander cut by Washington Redskins - ESPN[/url]

Paintrain 05-15-2009 01:07 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
Hate on him all you want, but Deion calls Alexander "The Burglar". Rich Eisen asked him why, Deion said 'because he tip toes thru the holes like he's robbing your house and doesn't want to wake you.' Funniest line I'd heard from an analyst in a long time.

GMScud 05-15-2009 01:11 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;557682][URL="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawksblog/2009220582_shaun_alexander_15.html?syndication=rss"]Seahawks Blog | Shaun Alexander: "Sometimes, unfortunately, I was only compared to myself." | Seattle Times Newspaper[/URL]



What the??? Do the Redskins know about this. SA was a beast five years ago, but what can he offer now?[/quote]

Kinda weird, the writer throws out one line about Alexander "hoping something pans out in Washington," then doesn't offer any flow up quotes by Alexander or any explanation for the comment.

This whole thing is a non starter IMO.

Ruhskins 05-15-2009 01:13 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=GMScud;557699]Kinda weird, the writer throws out one line about Alexander "hoping something pans out in Washington," then doesn't offer any flow up quotes by Alexander or any explanation for the comment.

This whole thing is a non starter IMO.[/quote]

Still, people are going to overreact to this. I can't wait to hear want crazy ass posts that will be on this thread tomorrow.

SmootSmack 05-15-2009 01:20 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=GMScud;557699]Kinda weird, the writer throws out one line about Alexander "hoping something pans out in Washington," then doesn't offer any flow up quotes by Alexander or any explanation for the comment.

This whole thing is a non starter IMO.[/quote]

Yeah, it's sort of why I posted the thread actually. Because it seemed like such a throwaway line in there, it made no sense.

elamin24 05-15-2009 03:31 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
he was never good...ever! As soon as his line stopped being productive he stopped being productive. Worst 1500+ yard and 25+ touchdowns in a season player ever :)

Luxorreb 05-15-2009 04:10 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
After Lavar hit him he was never the same.

redskin37 05-15-2009 08:02 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
I don't think any trainer will be able to help him . He runs heartless.

Sonny9TD 05-15-2009 08:11 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
I hope not. We have better backs on the team.

MTK 05-15-2009 08:29 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
He's not getting back on the team.

dmek25 05-15-2009 08:44 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
not this again

SBXVII 05-15-2009 09:03 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=GMScud;557691]At this stage in his career, [B]SA brings absolutely nothing to the field that we don't already have in Portis and Betts[/B]. Nothing.

Seattle gave him the obligatory large contract extension after his MVP season, and he's never been the same.[/quote]

I somewhat agree with you but you picked the wrong RB's. See Portis and Betts will atleast run North South and take a hit running the ball. SA is more like Rock in the fact that Rock likes to take the ball and dance in the back field, run East/West and hope to break the big one. He loses yrds more then any other back until he breaks a big one for like 40 yrds.

In most cases people can do 100 good things and everyone will remember the one bad thing. Rock could have 100 run and only two being good and everyone praises his abilities and thinks he should be our #1 or #2 back.

SA is no different. He takes the ball and dances around on his tipy toes in the back field losing yrds here and there until he finds a lane a mack truck could drive through then gets decent yrds and everyone call him a pro bowl RB.

Note to SA: The Giants let one RB go and the Eagles only have one decent one that is injured half the season. check with them, they might give you a roster spot.

SBXVII 05-15-2009 09:07 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=Paintrain;557696]Hate on him all you want, but Deion calls Alexander [B]"The Burglar".[/B] Rich Eisen asked him why, Deion said [B]'because he tip toes thru the holes like he's robbing your house[/B] and doesn't want to wake you.' Funniest line I'd heard from an analyst in a long time.[/quote]

That may be what Neon Deion calls him but thats not why we call him that. I hope when SA heard the fans calling him the TTB he was not thinking of what Deion called him cause he had a false idea. Someone should set him straight and tell him TTB stands for him tip toeing in the back field avoiding collision and losing yrds.

DBUCHANON101 05-15-2009 09:34 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
NO!!!!! GO AWAY Tip Toe Bandit

an23dy 05-15-2009 10:22 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
Would anybody want to swap him with Betts? I don't see this at all, and I think Alexander was more a product of Walter Jones, Steve Hutchinson, and a good Seattle line, but if he is better than Betts, or for that matter somebody else is better than Betts, I would want them in that #2 spot. I really would only want that so that the FO thinks we need another RB because I could see them sticking with the Portis/Betts combination for a while, but without Betts it would give them more reason to pick up a young guy, who's not a return guy, that can be a real #1 back that can be developed.

dall-assblows 05-15-2009 01:16 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
gosh, who is serving all the HATER-AID?

GTripp0012 05-15-2009 01:54 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
Can I point out that Alexander has had as many games to prove that [B]he's still got it[/B] as Campbell has had as an NFL starter altogether?

You would think that if he's still a useful back, it would have manifested itself in a 15 yard carry or something over the last three years.

FRPLG 05-15-2009 02:47 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
I work out at the gym daily. Am I hoping something pans out for me in DC? Should I be?

The Goat 05-15-2009 04:23 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
Even Betts is a better option than SA...in fact Betts has a way higher upside for us.

...like others said he's not coming back here.

Stuck in TX 05-16-2009 01:15 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
overrated. If it wasnt for Zorn's history with him he would have never came here to begin with. He should keep training but maybe he should focus his energy on coming back to DC and doing some public works projects or something with all that money he got from the 'Hawks (a the little we gave him).

skins89moss 05-16-2009 03:55 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
IMO SA does not upgrade our running back positon so why even bring him to camp. We need to find out who is going to be our #3 RB. Ladell has been here since Spurrier drafted him to replace Stephen Davis but that has not happened with Portis coming here. I think this maybe his last season in DC because his salary is to high for the production you get out of him. He has to give us some big plays with his limited number of touches per game. If he can't be productive in that roll than he will be out after this season in my opinion.

DBUCHANON101 05-16-2009 10:13 AM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
If we are going to bring in a vet rb, id rather have Deuce, at least he runs hard.

Dirtbag59 05-18-2009 01:48 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
How did this guy ever dominante in fantasy football with that running style? Can anyone tell me whats changed since he was in his prime, apart from him being 30+?

GTripp0012 05-18-2009 02:09 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;558358]How did this guy ever dominante in fantasy football with that running style? Can anyone tell me whats changed since he was in his prime, apart from him being 30+?[/quote]I think, he just stopped using his vision, which was one of his best assets. He doesn't look to hit the hole and create plays down field. He just runs forward until he gets hit, and then doesn't really have the athleticism to make a play. The result is that he's only effective when the OL not only wins the battle up front, but dominates.

I think this change resulted from injuries he got, tried to re-create himself, and just got away from all the things that made him good. I'd be surprised if he ever had an effective season again.

jsarno 05-18-2009 04:46 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;557942]Can I point out that Alexander has had as many games to prove that [B]he's still got it[/B] as Campbell has had as an NFL starter altogether?[/quote]

4 games?

[quote]You would think that if he's still a useful back, it would have manifested itself in a [b]15 yard carry or something over the last three years.[/b][/quote]

08- 8 yard long (11 carries)
07- 25 yard long
06- 33 yard long

Just thought I'd point that out.

Just for the record, I'm not saying to sign him. The man no longer has it. But Alexander is a true class act, and would be great for the team in terms of his professionalism. He would waste a space as an RB, but as a RB coach, or some sort of mentor to the rookies, I'd take him in a heartbeat. There is too much "hate" for a man that was a great player, a great running back, and a great person. From 2001-2005 he was GREAT. After that injury he wasn't the same. Now it's time for him to fade into retirement, or sign on as a mentor / coach.

He has a great foundation as well:
[url=http://www.shaunalexander.com/foundation.html]SA FOUNDATION[/url]
He has a quote in this link about his foundation that I love:
[url=http://www.freemethodistchurch.org/Magazine/Articles/Mar-Apr_2005/SaltShakers_Alexander.htm]Salt Shakers: Shaun Alexander[/url]
[quote]“In a dream I saw champagne glasses stacked like a pyramid,” he continues. “Once the top glass got full it began pouring out to the bottom. I took this as God telling me He was about to pour a lot of blessings out in my life.” [/quote]

For those that don't know, this is Alexanders foundation in summation (on his website):
[quote]Mission
The Shaun Alexander Foundation’s mission is to empower young men through education, athletics, character programs, and leadership training: inspiring them to reach their full potential as the mentors and role models for the next generation.

Vision

“Mentoring Young Men to Change the World”

Purpose & Method

Shaun has always had a heart to help. It is a character trait taught to him by his mother. So, in his senior year that the University of Alabama, Shaun began the Shaun Alexander Family Foundation. SAFF did almost everything: helped families with rent, scholarships, sent kids to camps, toy drives, food drives, tickets to games for kids who would have never been able to go, and much more.

As the foundation evolved so did it focus & mission. Now the Shaun Alexander Foundation partners with national organizations to make the greatest impact possible. Instead of recreating the wheel SAF is now able to impact youths ages 8 to 24 by getting them involved with our partner organizations.[/quote]

GTripp0012 05-18-2009 07:50 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=jsarno;558394]4 games?



08- 8 yard long (11 carries)
07- 25 yard long
06- 33 yard long

Just thought I'd point that out.

Just for the record, I'm not saying to sign him. The man no longer has it. But Alexander is a true class act, and would be great for the team in terms of his professionalism. He would waste a space as an RB, but as a RB coach, or some sort of mentor to the rookies, I'd take him in a heartbeat. There is too much "hate" for a man that was a great player, a great running back, and a great person. From 2001-2005 he was GREAT. After that injury he wasn't the same. Now it's time for him to fade into retirement, or sign on as a mentor / coach.

He has a great foundation as well:
[URL="http://www.shaunalexander.com/foundation.html"]SA FOUNDATION[/URL]
He has a quote in this link about his foundation that I love:
[URL="http://www.freemethodistchurch.org/Magazine/Articles/Mar-Apr_2005/SaltShakers_Alexander.htm"]Salt Shakers: Shaun Alexander[/URL]


For those that don't know, this is Alexanders foundation in summation (on his website):[/quote]You got me.

I should have added, "since 06", because that is what I meant.

jsarno 05-18-2009 08:07 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;558428]You got me.

I should have added, "since 06", because that is what I meant.[/quote]

No problem...
but let me ask you, would you add him if only for mentoring / coaching purposes and being a bench warmer and getting under 20 carries this year?

GTripp0012 05-18-2009 08:10 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=jsarno;558431]No problem...
but let me ask you, would you add him if only for mentoring / coaching purposes and being a bench warmer and getting under 20 carries this year?[/quote]I would not spend a 53 man roster spot on him for any reason, but to have him around the team (preseason contract or none) -- I probably wouldn't care either way. If Zorn thinks he can help, I'm sure he'll find a way to get him in here.

DBUCHANON101 05-18-2009 08:13 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
Ok, what do you guys think about goin after Jones of the Jets? may not be there long with the rook and Washington. led the AFC in rushing -i think-. CP needs someone to give him a breather who can be a breakaway threat IMO.

Zerohero 05-18-2009 08:21 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=DBUCHANON101;558434]Ok, what do you guys think about goin after Jones of the Jets? may not be there long with the rook and Washington. led the AFC in rushing -i think-. CP needs someone to give him a breather who can be a breakaway threat IMO.[/quote]

Certainly not a mind reader but i don't see CP handling getting less carries. They ran him to death last year and he still complained. I honestly think we have capable backups just they were used as effectively last year.

DBUCHANON101 05-18-2009 08:23 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
Im not downing our backups but if you saw what the Panthers did last yr it was impressive. havin 2 very good backs to spell each other.the defenses never got a break

jsarno 05-18-2009 11:06 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
[quote=DBUCHANON101;558434]Ok, what do you guys think about goin after Jones of the Jets? may not be there long with the rook and Washington. led the AFC in rushing -i think-. CP needs someone to give him a breather who can be a breakaway threat IMO.[/quote]

That's a huge HELL NO!
He will be 31 in august!!! Yes, he did lead the AFC in rushing (5th in the NFL), it's worth noting that only Tiki Barber, Curtis Martin, Walter Payton, and our beloved John Riggins did more than 1250 yards in a season at the age of 31 or older. Only John Riggins did it older than 31. So he will have nothing left in the tank, and we will pay a bunch of money for a back up. This is a complete waste...need to get younger. I would want Alexander as a mentor, not a player...Jones is only 1 year younger and a ton more expensive.

DBUCHANON101 05-18-2009 11:30 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
I wasnt aware he was that old..lol
but still if we can find a RB to spell CP i think it would be a good addition.. maybe when the teams start makin their cuts someone will fall to us in FA

SBXVII 05-18-2009 11:42 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
Why does everyone keep looking over the fence at everyone elses green grass when we have the greenest grass right here? There is a select few on here who already know that Marcus Mason is the future of this team and can out perform any of those washed up has beens. I predict league leading rusher this preseason again. His second yr in the same offense.....no different then JC....he will shine. Stop looking so far away. Look a little closer and smile. ;)

DBUCHANON101 05-18-2009 11:45 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
I liked Mason last yr also. I thought for sure he was going to make it.

SBXVII 05-18-2009 11:48 PM

Re: Shaun Alexander Looking to Tiptoe His Way Onto Redskins...Again?
 
I'm not saying he will beat out Betts or Rock just saying he provides the same talent but younger so if the object is to get younger for Zorn then Mason would be nice to replace someone. However, being a betting man I bet we keep Portis, and Betts, then replace Rock with one of the shiftier guys who can KR/PR/and RB for a change of pace.

The problem is we can't put Mason on the practice squad since he was on an active roster last yr....right. So it's either do or die. He either out performs Betts or Rock or he's basically show casing his talents for other teams who might need a RB.


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