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Check it out, FoxSports ranks every qb situation all over the NFL, of course they have nothing but good things to say about Washington and Campbell *sarcasm*

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9735822/Positional-Power-Rankings:-QB-packages]Positional Power Rankings: QB packages - FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

Apparently Todd Collins knows the offense inside and out which is surprising considering how hard he sucked in last years training camp and preseason.

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I would not disagree. JC has to take the team to glory, or get ass kicked to the curb...and rightly so. I hope like hell he can get it done
HTTR
AND if he CAN PROVE he is the man, he has a nice pay day coming

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JC has shown he has the mental and physical tools first half of the season last year. He needs to show better leadership on offense and when times are tough (last year, second half) he needs to stand tall, be confindent about winning, and being the quaterback have the ability at some point have the courage to put the team on his back and so lets go win this. I strongly believe he has the ability to do this. What he needs is a tough, come from behind win and with big numbers. Where everyone can say he was the difference-maker. Leadership seems to be weakness at this point and when your a quaterback, it makes it harder to succeed. As to the rankings, I'd say they should have been ranked higher by about 4 more spots, thats it. This is Jason's last stand, but I think he can get it done.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;564915]Check it out, FoxSports ranks every qb situation all over the NFL, of course they have nothing but good things to say about Washington and Campbell *sarcasm*

[URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9735822/Positional-Power-Rankings:-QB-packages"]Positional Power Rankings: QB packages - FOX Sports on MSN[/URL]

Apparently Todd Collins knows the offense inside and out which is surprising considering how hard he sucked in last years training camp and preseason.[/quote]


Cambell did nothing to earn praise over the last half of the season and his own team did everything they could to get rid of him. Is anyone really surprised that the media is going to say negative things about him?

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[quote=rbanerjee23;564915]Apparently Todd Collins knows the offense inside and out which is surprising considering how hard he sucked in last years training camp and preseason.[/quote]

That wouldn't surprise me at all. The guy is a true student of the game and to use a JG phrase, he's "super smart".

And for how hard he supposedly sucked in the preseason, his QB rating was better than JC's.

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All these polls seem to base their rankings of JC on the media reports of Snyder going after Cutler and Sanchez and the record of the second half of the season. Based on that, I wouldn't rank us very high either. I wonder how high Brees was rated after the Chargers decided to let him go and go with Rivers? Brees was also coming off surgery. Is JC being ranked low based on Snyders opinion? At this point in his career it's pretty hard to know what kind of QB Campbell really is because there have been some legitimate excuses for his lack of development as a consistent starter. He has shown some good, and some bad, with an everchanging offensive system, o-line, and receiving corps. I expect us to be better this year but not as good as next year. After 3 years in the same system for Campbell and the rookies, I think you would have a clearer picture of who you have in a coach, a QB, and a team. But without progress, a lot of these people won't be here that long. This is the year to show progress. A LOT OF PROGRESS. You can always find an excuse for losing. We need to find ways to win.

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I'd put us slightly higher. I'd rather have Campbell than anyone 20 or below. I expect after this season to see him elevate himself into the mid to upper teens in the league.

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[quote=Paintrain;564938]I'd put us slightly higher. I'd rather have Campbell than anyone 20 or below. I expect after this season to see him elevate himself into the mid to upper teens in the league.[/quote]

I completely agree.

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I'm having a hard time feeling the Titans 4 ranks higher than us with Kerry Collins, Vince Young, Pat Ramsey and Alex Mortensen. Talk about your game management QB corps.

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Eh, looks like they are putting heavy emphasis on the QB depth, which is fine. We certainly don't have depth like we did two or three years ago. It's Campbell and three question marks.

Echoing the Titans sentiments.

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They put an 's' on the end of Chase Daniel's name

Did not know that TC's QB rating was higher in the preseason matty, nice stat

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Giants should be at #11.........no higher.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;564915]Check it out, FoxSports ranks every qb situation all over the NFL, of course they have nothing but good things to say about Washington and Campbell *sarcasm*

[URL="http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9735822/Positional-Power-Rankings:-QB-packages"]Positional Power Rankings: QB packages - FOX Sports on MSN[/URL]

Apparently Todd Collins knows the offense inside and out which is surprising considering how hard he sucked in last years training camp and preseason.[/quote]


Read their commentary, and to be honest, what they are saying is what practically every preseason rag has been saying for the past few seasons about our QB situation. JC is a stand up individual everyone says, and it is true for the most part, but he has no choice but to be standup. He hasn't proven himself for the most part and he obviously isn't all that marketable. THe big question I have about JC is that has he already shown us his "stuff" or has he yet to come into his own. 2009 is going to answer that for us. HIs stats are average to above average. Case in point, compared to Frerotte, JC has a much better INT ratio, but Gus still has more TD passes.

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[quote=GTripp0012;564953]Eh, looks like they are putting heavy emphasis on the QB depth, which is fine. We certainly don't have depth like we did two or three years ago. It's Campbell and three question marks.

Echoing the Titans sentiments.[/quote]

This is the third year that Campbell and Collins have been #1 and #2. What is the difference?

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[quote=tryfuhl;564954][B]They put an 's' on the end of Chase Daniel's name
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Did not know that TC's QB rating was higher in the preseason matty, nice stat[/quote]

They also said "The No. 3 spot appears to be a camp battle between two rookies coming off stud college careers."

Really? I wasn't aware Colt was rookie a for the second straight year. :doh:

And even if this poll is about just as much about depth as it is starters, I'm still scratching my head.

How do they have the Colts and Pats lower than the Panthers? Or the Falcons at 11 with a 2nd year QB and nothing else? Or the Bills at 12 with Trent Edwards and no one else? And how is Trent Edwards "the perfect QB to build around?"

Outside of the top 5, these rankings are kind of all over the place IMO.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;564967]This is the third year that Campbell and Collins have been #1 and #2. What is the difference?[/quote]1) the presence of Brunell, and 2) the relative value of Collins in the single back system to the west coast.

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Can someone explain to me why the panthers are ranked that high, with jake delhomme who throws 6 Ints in one playoff game, matt Moore who hasn't won one NFL game (or maybe he won one) and mccown who is an average backup at best ...and same with Houston, when was the last time matt schaub played a full season, and Rex grossman and dan orlovsky(let's run out the back of the endzone) I feel like our QBs are better than that or at least most of the teams ranked behind them are colts pats etc.

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I don't think folks put much stock in JC or Brennan. JC has yet to turn the corner and Brennan couldn't play with the big boys while at the helm in Hawaii. Real easy to pad your stats with such lame ass competition. Hell the MAC conference is a lot tougher than Hawaii's conference.

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I agree - our QB corps is a big question mark. In fact, I know I'll bring on the wrath here, but I really wished we got Cutler. Or any *franchise* QB. Hey -- if JC is our franchise QB, then I'd be the happiest guy in the world. This is the year for him to prove it.

BUT, drafting these QB's waste a half-decade. Because:
1) Draft QB -- waste a high draft pick (TWO for JC)
2) Wait TWO YEARS as QB holds the clipboard and flirts with the cheerleaders.
3) Wait another 2-3 years to see if he pans out.
4) 50% bust rate for QB's => we may have wasted 4-5yrs
5) Waste another high draft pick and start franchise over

Having a young franchise QB that sticks around for 15-20yrs saves your team decades of progress & numerous high draft picks. In fact, this may be one of the other reasons the teams with great QB's are so good. Those teams don't have to waste high draft picks on QB's again and again.

So I'm just hoping Campbell finally breaks out this year. Then we can use that draft pick next year on a stud O-line guy, a LB or even a RB. Otherwise we'll draft a new QB & have to wait another 4-5 years to "develop" him. (unless we get Matt Ryan)

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[quote=Mattyk72;564925]That wouldn't surprise me at all. The guy is a true student of the game and to use a JG phrase, he's "super smart".

And for how hard he supposedly sucked in the preseason, his QB rating was better than JC's.[/quote]

Sure, except the "author" is clearly basing his "analysis" on Collins knowing Saunders offensive system and leading the team to the playoffs two seasons ago. He might very well know Zorn's system inside and out, but I doubt this particular writer has any insight into that. Hard to believe people get paid for this stuff.

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;565225]Sure, except the "author" is clearly basing his "analysis" on Collins knowing Saunders offensive system and leading the team to the playoffs two seasons ago. He might very well know Zorn's system inside and out, but I doubt this particular writer has any insight into that. Hard to believe people get paid for this stuff.[/quote]

I was just getting ready to say the same thing and I bet the writer does not even realize that we no longer have Saunders of his system. Heck, the writer might not even know Collins played under Saunders system for so long and had just heard that statement a few years back. How would he even know if Collins knows the syatem because he only played in a few preseason games last year.