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This is about the most honest and forthcoming I've heard Campbell speak and I LOVE IT! Put it out there JC and make it happen..

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d810f996f&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Campbell confident he can prove himself to be right man for the job[/url]

A couple of my favorite quotes:
-You have to look at it as sport, a business, a profession and understand there is competition all the time and nothing is in stone. No guarantees. But you still get mad deep inside. And how you handle that helps determine if you are going to make your career successful.

-But I know I have to have a big year and have them come to the table or get more options for myself. You know, this is a big year for me, but it's a big year for the Redskins as a whole, as a group from top to bottom.

This one won't be popular but I love his honesty-
There are still double-standards in this league for African-American quarterbacks. You have to be great to be good. And others who are half as good are considered great. That is not an excuse, that is a fact. I don't make excuses. I was raised to understand it is not always about you. You have to give respect to get respect.

A little over 30 days til camp and I can't wait.

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It really is unbelievable how much blame Jason takes for our record the last 3 years when he has only played 16 games in a season once. Not to mention constant change in offensive systems, receivers, and the offensive line. Not exactly the kind of enviroment for a young QB to flourish in. Can you imagine having to do your job differently[B] every year[/B], and having to [B]depend[/B] on constantly changing personell who are also [B]learning a new system[/B]? Then have to be constantly compared to the best in the business who work in the same offensive system every year? Considering the circumstances, I find it hard to put all the blame on JC. There is plenty of blame to go around for our lack of offensive success the last few years. I'm not taking up for JC, he needs to step up this year. But how can anyone judge how good he is with the confusing mess he's dealt with since he's been here?

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exactamundo...peyton manning is bitching about change after 10 years and jay cutler got mad because the denver gm discussed a remote possibility of a trade involving him. Say what you want about campbell but he has been 110% class about both those situations year in and year out as the real problem behind the redskins (vinny cerrato) just keeps throwing him under the bus. His numbers are not great but they are not particularly bad (JC has thrown 23 interceptions in 36 games, Brett favre goes through that in about 16 games) I sincerely believe that JC has the potential and ability to be a top 5 quarterback with an offensive line thats not about to enter a retirement home, and a WR corps with a meaningful receiver above 6 feet

edit* WR corps 'without' a meaningful receiver above 6 feet

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Thanks for the fine article on JC, Paintrain.

Every time I hear from JC I become more and more impressed by his classiness and attitude. I am looking forward to a big year from him, although certainly I am fueled by homer optimism.

As for the part about African-American quarterbacks, I think JC is right on. Sad to say, it seems that there is still a double-standard regarding qb's and race. McNabb seems like the poster child for this reality. Notice that historically there are relatively few African-American starters at qb compared to other positions and, when an African-American does start, he is usually a magnet for criticism. The qb position is one of many examples that we still have not realized racial equality in this country, although we do seem to be moving in that direction.

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[quote=rbanerjee23;565023]exactamundo...peyton manning is bitching about change after 10 years and jay cutler got mad because the denver gm discussed a remote possibility of a trade involving him. Say what you want about campbell but he has been 110% class about both those situations year in and year out as the real problem behind the redskins (vinny cerrato) just keeps throwing him under the bus. His numbers are not great but they are not particularly bad (JC has thrown 23 interceptions in 36 games, Brett favre goes through that in about 16 games) I sincerely believe that JC has the potential and ability to be a top 5 quarterback with an offensive line thats not about to enter a retirement home, and a WR corps with a meaningful receiver above 6 feet.[/quote]

Agreed. Let's give him something to work with, and not have him have to think about the plays because he had to learn a completely different system, AGAIN, and see how he does. People tend to forget that the rest of the offense has to learn the system too, and if they don't learn it correctly, Jason's screwed.

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I also think it's good that JC is taking more of a leadership role and is becoming more vocal. He needs to hold his offensive team mates accountable, why should he take all the blame. If they run a wrong route or blow a blocking assignment he needs to ask them what happened there and tell them to correct it. If they don't know why it happened, they shouldn't be on the field until they figure it out.

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[quote=53Fan;565026]I also think it's good that JC is taking more of a leadership role and is becoming more vocal. He needs to hold his offensive team mates accountable, why should he take all the blame. If they run a wrong route or blow a blocking assignment he needs to ask them what happened there and tell them to correct it. If they don't know why it happened, they shouldn't be on the field until they figure it out.[/quote]

Right on.

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[quote=Paintrain;565020]
This one won't be popular but I love his honesty-
There are still double-standards in this league for African-American quarterbacks. You have to be great to be good. And others who are half as good are considered great. That is not an excuse, that is a fact. I don't make excuses. I was raised to understand it is not always about you. You have to give respect to get respect.

A little over 30 days til camp and I can't wait.[/quote]

You're right it isn't popular at least with me. Seriously why did he have to play the race card? It's a simple deal, you play like 6-2 you get love from the fan base you go 2-6 and you get the opposite. It has nothing to do with race.

Personally I could care less what color the QB is or any other player for that matter. I judge every player the same way. You play hard you get points, you conduct yourself as a decent human being you get points, you play well you get mucho points. If race was an issue with me I wouldn't watch football considering about 75% of the league consist of black players.

The time that Jason has gotten to develop is something that other QB's around the league can only dream of be it black, white, or latino. Personally I love the way he's handled himself this offseason but come on.

[quote=Lotus;565024]

As for the part about African-American quarterbacks, I think JC is right on. Sad to say, it seems that there is still a double-standard regarding qb's and race. McNabb seems like the poster child for this reality. Notice that historically there are relatively few African-American starters at qb compared to other positions and, when an African-American does start, he is usually a magnet for criticism. The qb position is one of many examples that we still have not realized racial equality in this country, although we do seem to be moving in that direction.[/quote]

McNabb plays in Philly, the city that booed Santa Clause, it shouldn't be a surprise that he gets treated the way he does. If anything I'd say they're holding back.

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[quote=53Fan;565026]I also think it's good that JC is taking more of a leadership role and is becoming more vocal. He needs to hold his offensive team mates accountable, why should he take all the blame. If they run a wrong route or blow a blocking assignment he needs to ask them what happened there and tell them to correct it. If they don't know why it happened, they shouldn't be on the field until they figure it out.[/quote]

Yes I reckon we probably see more of that this year...but maybe it won't need to be said/done more than a handful of times. At this point I feel like the entire roster, offense and defense, ought to hold JC in the highest regard. Not only for his class but also for things like his toughness and perseverance. I guess what I'm saying is his teammates ought to be inspired to leave everything on the field this year...make this one count cuz your QB is at stake...the same guy who took an awful beating in the 2nd half of last year when his line became swiss cheese but never bitched and moaned and always went back under center.

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Can't wait for camp and some real news to talk about.

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Its hard to play the race card when like 75% (thats a guess) of the starters in the NFL are African American.

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[quote=firstdown;565037]Its hard to play the race card when like 75% (thats a guess) of the starters in the NFL are African American.[/quote]

Not at quarterback.

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Could it be that he wasn't so much playing the race card but maybe, possibly answering a question ?

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[quote=Lotus;565042]Not at quarterback.[/quote]

Why does that matter? If you have 75% starting that means that the coaches do not look at color and pick the best player and why would it be any different for the QB position? What is JC saying that the coaches might be looking past his talent because he is black. His numbers right now do not support his arguement.

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[quote=Mattyk72;565036]Can't wait for camp and some real news to talk about.[/quote]
yo'..............

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[quote=firstdown;565051][B]Why does that matter? If you have 75% starting that means that the coaches do not look at color and pick the best player and why would it be any different for the QB position[/B]? What is JC saying that the coaches might be looking past his talent because he is black. His numbers right now do not support his arguement.[/quote]

Oh, c'mon. Are you serious? While I'm not ready to say JC's comments are accurate, or that they were really at all relevant to a conversation he was having about the pressure he's facing in the upcoming year, to say that a certain percentage of African-American players in the league reflects overall colorblindness is ridiculous, especially as it relates to the quarterback position. There can be little doubt that African-American football players wanting to play the quarterback position were stymied for many years in the NFL on the basis of unfortunate beliefs about their level of intelligence, and this despite the healthly percentage of African-American players in the rest of the league during that time. Get real.

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;565057]Oh, c'mon. Are you serious? While I'm not ready to say JC's comments are accurate, or that they were really at all relevant to a conversation he was having about the pressure he's facing in the upcoming year, to say that a certain percentage of African-American players in the league reflects overall colorblindness is ridiculous, especially as it relates to the quarterback position. There can be little doubt that African-American football players wanting to play the [SIZE=4]quarterback position were stymied for many years in the NFL on the basis of unfortunate beliefs about their level of intelligence,[/SIZE] and this despite the healthly percentage of African-American players in the rest of the league during that time. Get real.[/quote]

JC is talking about today and not years back which I do agree with you that they "were" (your choice of words not mine) at one time held back from the QB spot.

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Anybody getting distracted by the comments regarding race are missing the bigger picture here, which is that JC is finally speaking up and speaking out about his role on the team. It's pretty clear that he feels like he is the leader of this team now, not Portis. I think that bodes well for his season and for the team this year, personally.

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[quote=dgack;565060]Anybody getting distracted by the comments regarding race are missing the bigger picture here, which is that JC is finally speaking up and speaking out about his role on the team. It's pretty clear that he feels like he is the leader of this team now, not Portis. I think that bodes well for his season and for the team this year, personally.[/quote]
I have always felt that JC look at himself as the leader of the O and I'm not sure why you think CP was the leader. As far as I know JC makes the calles in the huddle and directs the players and not CP. I think your confusing Portis off the field and the Portis on the field which are two different things.

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[quote=dgack;565060]Anybody getting distracted by the comments regarding race are missing the bigger picture here, which is that JC is finally speaking up and speaking out about his role on the team. It's pretty clear that he feels like he is the leader of this team now, not Portis. I think that bodes well for his season and for the team this year, personally.[/quote]

Yeah I can see that. He definitely seems ready to step up and take the reins this year. He's been more vocal in the OTAs as well. And with everything he's been through this offseason and the way he handled it all, I think his teammates are looking at him as more of a leader too.

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Good to hear some of those things from him. Seems like he changed his mind on what it's like being a black QB in the NFL compared to how he responded to McNabb's words a few years ago.

The article pretty much wrote Roydell Williams into being our 5th receiver. I wonder if that was based on info from Campbell and/or the organization, or just the writer's assumption.

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[quote=Mattyk72;565064]Yeah I can see that. He definitely seems ready to step up and take the reins this year. He's been more vocal in the OTAs as well. And with everything he's been through this offseason and the way he handled it all, I think his teammates are looking at him as more of a leader too.[/quote]
So from your post your saying he is NOW ready to step up and take the reins. If thats true he is just now doing so what has prevented him from taking the reins the past couple of years?

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Playing the race card at the QB position is stupid to me. Every QB white or black has a tremendous pressure to perform. If you don't perform you get dogged in the press. Philly doesn't count as an example b/c they boo everyone, AI, Barkley, McNabb, Mike Schmidt, Santa, etc.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;565028]You're right it isn't popular at least with me. Seriously why did he have to play the race card? It's a simple deal, you play like 6-2 you get love from the fan base you go 2-6 and you get the opposite. It has nothing to do with race.

Personally I could care less what color the QB is or any other player for that matter. I judge every player the same way. You play hard you get points, you conduct yourself as a decent human being you get points, you play well you get mucho points. If race was an issue with me I wouldn't watch football considering about 75% of the league consist of black players.

The time that Jason has gotten to develop is something that other QB's around the league can only dream of be it black, white, or latino. Personally I love the way he's handled himself this offseason but come on.



McNabb plays in Philly, the city that booed Santa Clause, it shouldn't be a surprise that he gets treated the way he does. If anything I'd say they're holding back.[/quote]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Right on. I was a little put off by what JC was saying regarding race. It took away from all the other good things he said.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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It also took away from the real point of this thread; JC maturating. Our fault for reading it, or his fault for saying it?[/FONT][/COLOR]
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McNabb played his first complete season last year since 2003. That's why he sometimes gets blown off as not a top tier QB. It’s not because he's African American. Another comparison I think of is pitchers in baseball. There are a much higher percentage of white pitchers then comparable to the makeup of the other positions in baseball. How many white running backs are there? Just seems like certain skill sets suite certain races differently. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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I consider this a problem.
It would be hard to make a case that the NFL does not play the most qualified player at position regardless of color as has already been stated. Is it possible that there is a coach or owner that harbors enough racist emotion to lean toward a white QB? Sure. To apply that across the league seems foolish to me.
If an owner does not believe in equality, he DOES believe in profit. To play an inferior player because of color defeats that.
AND at some level JC appears to believe, this is why I am not considered good? It is not my results, it is my skin color? Does he not understand that the only reason he is not riding the pine now is because of the changing nature of his coaching and schemes to date?

AND jackin' up that BS in the locker room cannot be good as well.

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[quote=firstdown;565072]So from your post your saying he is NOW ready to step up and take the reins. If thats true he is just now doing so what has prevented him from taking the reins the past couple of years?[/quote]

Could be confidence in himself from being in the same system for 2 years in a row and his overall experience level in the league after 4 years.

Could be him growing a pair after having to put up with trade rumors all offseason long.

Or maybe he just knows it's put up or shut up time and if he wants to be the long term guy here, he needs to step up and take what's his.

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Campbell won't ever have a good year until he gets a decent offensive line to block for him. Maybe the Redskins didn't improve drastically along the O-line because if they did, they wouldn't have an excuse for getting rid of him. Just a thought...

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[quote=JLee9718;565092]Campbell won't ever have a good year until he gets a decent offensive line to block for him. Maybe the Redskins didn't improve drastically along the O-line because if they did, they wouldn't have an excuse for getting rid of him. Just a thought...[/quote]

I guess if you're into crazy conspiracy theories.

Sabotaging the entire season to get rid of JC?

Why bother signing Dockery then? They could have just kept Kendall and his creaky knees and saved some loot in the process.

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[quote=JLee9718;565092]Campbell won't ever have a good year until he gets a decent offensive line to block for him. Maybe the Redskins didn't improve drastically along the O-line because if they did, they wouldn't have an excuse for getting rid of him. Just a thought...[/quote]
The line (barring multiple injuries) should be preety good assuming we have a competent right tackle. JC is going to have to learn how to buy a little time in the pocket

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[quote=Dirtbag359;565028]You're right it isn't popular at least with me. Seriously why did he have to play the race card? It's a simple deal, you play like 6-2 you get love from the fan base you go 2-6 and you get the opposite. It has nothing to do with race.

Personally I could care less what color the QB is or any other player for that matter. I judge every player the same way. You play hard you get points, you conduct yourself as a decent human being you get points, you play well you get mucho points. If race was an issue with me I wouldn't watch football considering about 75% of the league consist of black players.

[B]The time that Jason has gotten to develop is something that other QB's around the league can only dream of be it black, white, or latino. Personally I love the way he's handled himself this offseason but come on.[/B][/quote]Is this serious? I don't remember the Seahawks trying to boot Hasselbeck after the 2003 playoff loss. He went to the pro bowl and super bowl two years later. Jake Delhomme has yet to win a playoff game since 2005 and he just got a 5 year extension. Alex Smith, whose career highlights include winning 7 games with the Niners three years ago, is still competiting for his teams starting position in 2009. Eli Manning, for all of his struggles in his development, won a ring in his fourth year as a starter, and might get the biggest deal in league history. Kyle Orton has been one of the worst QBs in the NFL over the last four years, and he's still a team's QB of the future. Hell, Drew Bledsoe's career lasted another 8 years after he stopped playing well.

You see, that's the big picture. The race card got played in the abscence of an actual logical reason for the team's actions. You look at all the names above, and you do have to wonder that if Campbell's plight is just the status quo for an NFL quarterback, what's different about the guy's listed above.

The team can be not sold on anybody they want to. There's nothing wrong with making a change to improve at a position in March. The problem, of course, with telling your guy tht you're not sold on him...and then not really having a solid foundation for the belief is that you come off like someone with preconceived biases.

Now, I'm not saying Campbell should have gone there, or that going there makes anything different, or that life is fair, or that he's even entitled to a fair shake at his profession. I am saying that the evidence seems to strengthen his assessment, though it's still a case of correllation not equalling causation.

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I'm going to put my :twocents: in. Campbell's okay but not great. He showed good promise when he joined us becuase he's a good scrambler, but he needs to learn to stay in the pocket and make better decisions and he really hasn't fulfilled that role of a long term quarterback. I know he's been injured and been surrounded by change, but he could still manage to do a little better. Personally I think when Brennan develops he'll become the QB of the future.

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[quote=mlmpetert;565084][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Right on. I was a little put off by what JC was saying regarding race. It took away from all the other good things he said.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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It also took away from the real point of this thread; JC maturating. Our fault for reading it, or his fault for saying it?[/FONT][/COLOR]
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McNabb played his first complete season last year since 2003. That's why he sometimes gets blown off as not a top tier QB. It’s not because he's African American. Another comparison I think of is pitchers in baseball. There are a much higher percentage of white pitchers then comparable to the makeup of the other positions in baseball. How many white running backs are there? [B]Just seems like certain skill sets suite certain races differently.[/B] [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]
What you said is one of the most damning statements there is about black QB. The reasoning there were fewer black QB in the league years ago was because they lacked the 'mental acuity to handle the position'. They were better suited to just run and jump. While that's not spoken in league circles, there is that stigma that lingers, especially when the whispers come out about 'slow to grasp the offense' or 'trouble reading defenses'.

The other thing that gets overlooked is the longevity of average black QB to average white QB. For every Charlie Batch (mid round career backup), there are 3 Luke McCowns. For every Byron Leftwich (former 1st rounder that didn't stick as a starter), there are 3-4 Joey Harringtons or Patrick Ramseys. The standards are different, like it or not.

Sorry for derailing the thread but it's an issue that gets pooh poohed too much by people fooling themselves into thinking that sports are colorblind.

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[quote=VTSkinfan;565113]I'm going to put my :twocents: in. Campbell's okay but not great. He showed good promise when he joined us becuase he's a good scrambler, but he needs to learn to stay in the pocket and make better decisions and he really hasn't fulfilled that role of a long term quarterback. I know he's been injured and been surrounded by change, but he could still manage to do a little better. Personally I think when Brennan develops he'll become the QB of the future.[/quote]

Welcome to the board.. I think when there IS a pocket, JC stays in it. That was the problem the 2nd half last season, there wasn't much of a pocket. If Brennan develops into anything more than a jouneyman and a preseason legend I will be very surprised.

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[quote=GTripp0012;565097]Is this serious? I don't remember the Seahawks trying to boot Hasselbeck after the 2003 playoff loss. He went to the pro bowl and super bowl two years later. Jake Delhomme has yet to win a playoff game since 2005 and he just got a 5 year extension. Alex Smith, whose career highlights include winning 7 games with the Niners three years ago, is still competiting for his teams starting position in 2009. Eli Manning, for all of his struggles in his development, won a ring in his fourth year as a starter, and might get the biggest deal in league history. Kyle Orton has been one of the worst QBs in the NFL over the last four years, and he's still a team's QB of the future. Hell, Drew Bledsoe's career lasted another 8 years after he stopped playing well.

You see, that's the big picture. The race card got played in the abscence of an actual logical reason for the team's actions. You look at all the names above, and you do have to wonder that if Campbell's plight is just the status quo for an NFL quarterback, what's different about the guy's listed above.

The team can be not sold on anybody they want to. There's nothing wrong with making a change to improve at a position in March. The problem, of course, with telling your guy tht you're not sold on him...[SIZE=3]and then not really having a solid foundation for the belief is that you come off like someone with preconceived biases.[/SIZE]

Now, I'm not saying Campbell should have gone there, or that going there makes anything different, or that life is fair, or that he's even entitled to a fair shake at his profession. I am saying that the evidence seems to strengthen his assessment, though it's still a case of correllation not equalling causation.[/quote]
So you really think that Zorn/Snyder or who ever looked to trade Campbell could not give a good reason for trading him. What do you want them to do? Go to the press and say. We are looking to trade JC because he is slow in the pocket, stairs down WR's, cannot make the big plays, holds the ball to long, etc... Now any team that wants to trade us for this great QB give us a call.

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[quote=Hog1;565096]The line (barring multiple injuries) should be preety good assuming we have a competent right tackle. JC is going to have to learn how to buy a little time in the pocket[/quote]


The only upgrade is Dockery. But it's for Pete Kendell who preformed pretty good last year, if not the best on the line. So while Dockery is a much longer term fix (and therefore an upgrade) then the banade Kendell was, talent wise we havent really improved at all.

Of course Mikey Williams could be a show Brady what a Come Back Player of the Year really is. Or Heyer may finally step up, or Chad may step in, but I dont see a drastic difference from last year.

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[quote=Paintrain;565115]What you said is one of the most damning statements there is about black QB. The reasoning there were fewer black QB in the league years ago was because they lacked the 'mental acuity to handle the position'. They were better suited to just run and jump. While that's not spoken in league circles, there is that stigma that lingers, especially when the whispers come out about 'slow to grasp the offense' or 'trouble reading defenses'.

The other thing that gets overlooked is the longevity of average black QB to average white QB. For every Charlie Batch (mid round career backup), there are 3 Luke McCowns. For every Byron Leftwich (former 1st rounder that didn't stick as a starter), there are 3-4 Joey Harringtons or Patrick Ramseys. The standards are different, like it or not.

Sorry for derailing the thread but it's an issue that gets pooh poohed too much by people fooling themselves into thinking that sports are colorblind.[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I agree that there is that stigma left over from the old days, but I think it’s quickly put to rest when a qb whatever color makes the correct read, or obviously knows his play book. And look at college. There are just flat out less black qb's in D1 college, so of course there will be less in the NFL. Maybe it stems from college, I dont know. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]And think about baseball why are there more white pitchers percentage wise to the makeup of the rest of the league. Maybe white people just have better arm strength, accuracy, or touch for some reason. It’s a touchy subject so probably isn’t that well studied. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=firstdown;565119]So you really think that Zorn/Snyder or who ever looked to trade Campbell could not give a good reason for trading him. What do you want them to do? Go to the press and say. We are looking to trade JC because he is slow in the pocket, stairs down WR's, cannot make the big plays, holds the ball to long, etc... Now any team that wants to trade us for this great QB give us a call.[/quote]How is that any different from what they did do, which was try to trade their starting quarterback for a second or third round pick in an attempt to use multiple first round picks to get a slightly more different starting quarterback? It's not.

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[quote=mlmpetert;565132][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I agree that there is that stigma left over from the old days, but I think it’s quickly put to rest when a qb whatever color makes the correct read, or obviously knows his play book. And look at college. There are just flat out less black qb's in D1 college, so of course there will be less in the NFL. Maybe it stems from college, I dont know. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]And think about baseball why are there more white pitchers percentage wise to the makeup of the rest of the league. [B]Maybe white people just have better arm strength, accuracy, or touch for some reason.[/B] It’s a touchy subject so probably isn’t that well studied. [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

You do realize that your statement is inherently racist, right? So was your prior statement about different positions suiting different races. Some years ago Jimmy the Greek was fired for making a very similar statement on air.

Look, I'm as white as white gets, so I have no axe of my own to grind here. But judging the ability of a person to play a certain position because of the color of their skin is racism.

With your statements you have proven JC to be correct: in the eyes of some people there is a racial double standard regarding the quarterback position.

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[quote=Lotus;565148]You do realize that your statement is inherently racist, right? So was your prior statement about different positions suiting different races. Some years ago Jimmy the Greek was fired for making a very similar statement on air.

Look, I'm as white as white gets, so I have no axe of my own to grind here. But judging the ability of a person to play a certain position because of the color of their skin is racism.

With your statements you have proven JC to be correct: in the eyes of some people there is a racial double standard regarding the quarterback position.[/quote]

Agreed...I was actually hoping no one would respond to mlmpetert's comment so as not to lend it any recognition.

Re: Jason Campbell gets his mind right for the season..
 

[quote=SmootSmack;565149]Agreed...I was actually hoping no one would respond to mlmpetert's comment so as not to lend it any recognition.[/quote]

Sorry...your strategy is better.