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Ruhskins 07-14-2009 09:44 PM

Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
Anyone know how this ranks with salaries/contracts of other QBs? I still think this guy is not going to do as well as he did in NE, but who knows.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4327067]Matt Cassel signs long-term deal with Kansas City Chiefs - ESPN[/url]

MTK 07-14-2009 10:43 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
Wow they better hope he's the real deal and not another Scott Mitchell.

Ruhskins 07-14-2009 10:48 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=Mattyk72;567776]Wow they better hope he's the real deal and not another Scott Mitchell.[/quote]

Or as someone commented on ESPN.com...

"Whoopee...the next Steve Bono..."

I wonder if the Chiefs think that the 63M include Randy Moss, Wes Welker, the Patriots D and Darth Hoody.

GTripp0012 07-14-2009 11:06 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
First Delhomme and now Cassel?

I think we've officially reached the point in time where the salary cap is hurting more than it's helping. Apparently, the QB that is not worth 10 million a year has zero job security.

GTripp0012 07-14-2009 11:07 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
If Kyle Orton buys a mansion tomorrow, I swear...

Ruhskins 07-14-2009 11:11 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=GTripp0012;567787]If Kyle Orton buys a mansion tomorrow, I swear...[/quote]

:rofl:

If Cassel indeed doesn't work out or lives up to the hype, I will declare Bill Belichik (a.k.a. Darth Hoody) the greatest football mind alive. Because of all these questionable moves done by McDaniels in Denver (dismantling the offense, running Culter out of town) and Pioli in KC (mortgaging their future on Cassel); which obviously were not done in NE.

Ok, I am exaggerating on this, but I just find it funny that these two guys are making all these somewhat questionable moves after being on a team that seems to always make sure/unquestionable moves.

Lotus 07-14-2009 11:21 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=Ruhskins;567772]Anyone know how this ranks with salaries/contracts of other QBs? I still think this guy is not going to do as well as he did in NE, but who knows.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4327067]Matt Cassel signs long-term deal with Kansas City Chiefs - ESPN[/url][/quote]

According to NFL Network, in terms of earnings [I]this year[/I] Schaub is #1 at $17 mil. and Cassel is #2 at $15 mil. BTW Brady will make about $8 mil. this year, or about half of Cassel's salary.

I really like your "Darth Hoody" nickname. Spot on and unforgettable. Maybe he is Philip Rivers' father. :)

saden1 07-14-2009 11:45 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
Did they sign Randy Moss and Wes Welker too? :doh:

Ruhskins 07-14-2009 11:49 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=saden1;567791]Did they sign Randy Moss and Wes Welker too? :doh:[/quote]

You can add Belichik and the Pats D to that list. LOL.

an23dy 07-15-2009 12:11 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=Ruhskins;567788]:rofl:

If Cassel indeed doesn't work out or lives up to the hype, I will declare Bill Belichik (a.k.a. Darth Hoody) the greatest football mind alive. Because of all these questionable moves done by McDaniels in Denver (dismantling the offense, running Culter out of town) and Pioli in KC (mortgaging their future on Cassel); which obviously were not done in NE.

Ok, I am exaggerating on this, but I just find it funny that these two guys are making all these somewhat questionable moves after being on a team that seems to always make sure/unquestionable moves.[/quote]

Personally I don't believe in Cassel, but there's no way he can turn KC around. There's no receivers there and I think everyone will consider him a bust after next year. He's still young though and if you can get a quarterback to build around then it's not a bust if he eventually gets good. I don't think Cassel's a good QB, more a product of the system, but we will see week 6.

skinsfaninok 07-15-2009 01:00 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=GTripp0012;567786]First Delhomme and now Cassel?

I think we've officially reached the point in time where the salary cap is hurting more than it's helping. Apparently, the QB that is not worth 10 million a year has zero job security.[/quote]


Campbell is better than Jake Delhomme and as for Cassel I can't say JC is better because he did go 11-5 last year fresh off the pine..

irish 07-15-2009 07:00 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=an23dy;567793]Personally I don't believe in Cassel, but there's no way he can turn KC around. There's no receivers there and I think everyone will consider him a bust after next year. He's still young though and if you can get a quarterback to build around then it's not a bust if he eventually gets good. I don't think Cassel's a good QB, more a product of the system, but we will see week 6.[/quote]

I agree they dont really have any WRs but they have the most important piece of the tandem, the QB. They can find good WRs but finding a good QB isnt easy. KC wont be great this year but they will fill in the pieces and next season will be a break out one for Cassel & KC.

CRedskinsRule 07-15-2009 07:08 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=irish;567805]I agree they dont really have any WRs but they have the most important piece of the tandem, the QB. [B] They can find good WRs but finding a good QB isnt easy[/B]. KC wont be great this year but they will fill in the pieces and next season will be a break out one for Cassel & KC.[/quote]

Yep, good receivers are a dime a dozen in this ole league they call the NFL.

SmootSmack 07-15-2009 07:21 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
Personally I think Tyler Thigpen is getting the shaft. I thought he had a pretty good year last year his first season as a starter. But I guess the knock on him is he's too short and won't ever be the franchise QB Cassel could be.

MTK 07-15-2009 07:44 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=an23dy;567793]Personally I don't believe in Cassel, but there's no way he can turn KC around. [B]There's no receivers there[/B] and I think everyone will consider him a bust after next year. He's still young though and if you can get a quarterback to build around then it's not a bust if he eventually gets good. I don't think Cassel's a good QB, more a product of the system, but we will see week 6.[/quote]

Dwayne Bowe?

jdlea 07-15-2009 08:03 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=Mattyk72;567809]Dwayne Bowe?[/quote]

Seriously, he's been in the league for 2 seasons and has posted 70 catches, 995 yards and 5 TD's and 86 catches, 1022 yards and 7 TD's with the carousel of mediocre quarterbacks they've been trotting out there, that's pretty damn impressive.

They may not have any other options, short of Jamaal Charles (and I'm basing that on his ability in open space, but I believe he can catch), to throw to, but Dwayne Bowe is a beast!

freddyg12 07-15-2009 08:10 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
They're taking a chance here, but most fa/vet contracts are just that. If they've got a solid offense in 2 years this signing will look fine.

Lotus 07-15-2009 08:56 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=Mattyk72;567809]Dwayne Bowe?[/quote]

Bowe rules but they don't have much beyond him.

SmootSmack 07-15-2009 09:18 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
Bobby Engram gives the Chiefs a good veteran for the time being

NYCskinfan82 07-15-2009 06:57 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
Cassel got 63 how much is guaranteed. The Skins are going to wish they signed JC to a contract he's going to break the bank.

jsarno 07-15-2009 08:09 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=NYCskinfan82;568015]Cassel got 63 how much is guaranteed. The Skins are going to wish they signed JC to a contract he's going to break the bank.[/quote]

I thought I heard 28 mil is guarenteed. I could be wrong that could be Suggs contract, it was the same amount.

I think this is yet another dumb move by a dumb orginization. Getting Cassel was not dumb IMO, paying him a HUGE amount of salary is. He has not proven ANYTHING yet. I guess you don't have to in this league.

rbanerjee23 07-15-2009 08:28 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;567795]Campbell is better than Jake Delhomme and as for Cassel I can't say JC is better because he did go 11-5 last year fresh off the pine..[/quote]

too bad cassell's been in the system for a few years and jc was in a brand new one with a rookie coach...but yeah besides that the situations were identical

get real, cassell is a product of the system and if tom brady who is a far better qb had been in there instead, the pats would have won the superbowl

rbanerjee23 07-15-2009 08:28 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=NYCskinfan82;568015]Cassel got 63 how much is guaranteed. The Skins are going to wish they signed JC to a contract he's going to break the bank.[/quote]

amen to that brother...cannot wait until campbell tears it up and gets a great contract

jsarno 07-15-2009 08:38 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=rbanerjee23;568024]amen to that brother...cannot wait until campbell tears it up and gets a great contract[/quote]

That's a bold assumption. What IF Campbell throws for 3600-3700 yards and 20 or 21 tds? What would you pay him?

53Fan 07-15-2009 09:41 PM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=jsarno;568026]That's a bold assumption. [B] What IF Campbell throws for 3600-3700 yards and 20 or 21 tds?[/B] What would you pay him?[/quote]

If he does that well in his second year in the WCO with Thomas, Kelly, and Davis in their second year and an offensive line that hasn't changed much from last year, I'd pay him a LOT. The 3rd year should be GREAT!

an23dy 07-16-2009 01:17 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
[quote=Mattyk72;567809]Dwayne Bowe?[/quote]

No more Tony Gonzalez so teams can double team him since there's nobody else. Bobby Engram is old and I don't know what he has left. I think Bowe was third in the NFL in drops last year anyways. I saw this article a little while ago too ...
[url]http://nooffseason.com/player-news/bowe-struggling-with-drops.html[/url]

freddavisbro86 07-16-2009 10:18 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
he struck gold with this contract 1 yr starter

freddavisbro86 07-16-2009 10:19 AM

Re: Chiefs sign Cassel to 6-yr 63M deal
 
what can he do with no moss or welker


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