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Paintrain 07-23-2009 08:44 AM

10 Years of Snyder-AP Interview
 
A pretty decent read, nothing too revealing but it's a look at Dan that we don't usually see. It's pretty commonplace to bash him nationally and locally for some of his early mistakes but a true look at his tenure displays some progress.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txtenyearsofsnyder&prov=st&type=lgns]AP INTERVIEW: Snyder on 10 years as owner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

CRedskinsRule 07-23-2009 09:21 AM

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Geez, Snyder is only 2 years older than me... Man for all the mistakes I made over the past 10 years, I can't imagine if I had been running the Skins too. Granted, I am not Snyder, but at 34, that's incredibly young to be the owner of such a team. Even more reason to believe its gonna get better.

jdlea 07-23-2009 09:29 AM

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I thought this was an awesome read. I'm glad he seems to be maturing some, I hope that comes through with the decisions he makes in regards to the Skins...as in, "don't fire Zorn if this season isn't a trip to the NFC Championship game."

MTK 07-23-2009 09:35 AM

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Is it just me or does a piece like this come out every summer around this time??

djnemo65 07-23-2009 09:39 AM

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Also, didn't we just try and trade the house and kitchen sink for Jay Cutler? I don't think he learned that from Gibbs. Every time you buy into the Snyder has changed line you wake up to read about us trying to trade two number one picks for Chad Johnson, or something else crazy. So I'm not convinced he's learned his lesson completely.

Schneed10 07-23-2009 09:54 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;569451]Is it just me or does a piece like this come out every summer around this time??[/quote]

Not with Dan actually sitting down with the press, he's been hiding from them because most of them bash him. So it's nice to hear from him a little bit.

Bit in the end it's a lot of fluff. Bring on the games already.

mredskins 07-23-2009 10:05 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;569451]Is it just me or does a piece like this come out every summer around this time??[/quote]


I feel like that for a lot of articles and quotes.

It was decent article but it was just noise nothing behind it. Did you expect him to say he has not learned anything in the last ten years?

I think DS is a good owner but I still beleive he puts making money ahead of winning. Each year he makes a flashy free agent signing drums up huge amounts of "hope" in the fans and then collects his wins ($$$). Probaly true for 100% of professional sports but Danny is one of the best at it.

MTK 07-23-2009 10:11 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;569456]Not with Dan actually sitting down with the press, he's been hiding from them because most of them bash him. So it's nice to hear from him a little bit.

Bit in the end it's a lot of fluff. Bring on the games already.[/quote]

He does an interview every year around this time I swear, I'll dig for last year's version.

Edit - here's one:

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-news/24642-wsj-interview-with-dan-snyder.html[/URL]

MTK 07-23-2009 10:12 AM

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[quote=mredskins;569459]I feel like that for a lot of articles and quotes.

It was decent article but it was just noise nothing behind it. Did you expect him to say he has not learned anything in the last ten years?

I think DS is a good owner but I still beleive he puts making money ahead of winning. Each year he makes a flashy free agent signing drums up huge amounts of "hope" in the fans and then collects his wins ($$$). Probaly true for 100% of professional sports but Danny is one of the best at it.[/quote]

Meh, there's a lot more lucrative businesses out there. If he was in it just for the money he wouldn't be running a NFL team, and he certainly wouldn't spend money the way he does.

SmootSmack 07-23-2009 10:16 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;569461]He does an interview every year around this time I swear, I'll dig for last year's version.[/quote]

I think his last interview was in early April with Doc Walker (and Cerrato) to talk about the past off-season and the upcoming draft. He never (or very very rarely) speaks during the season but the off-season is different.

I think the perception of him is far from the reality. And he's undoubtedly grown as an owner and as a person in the past decade.

mredskins 07-23-2009 10:27 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;569462]Meh, there's a lot more lucrative businesses out there. If he was in it just for the money he wouldn't be running a NFL team, and he certainly wouldn't spend money the way he does.[/quote]



Hmmm... ok lets say he signs Albert to $100m (which he did) how much money does he make off that signing. Think jersey sales, ticket slaes, etc. It gets fans pumped up for the upcoming season which translates into dollars. I am not saying he signed AH just to make money but he sure didn't do it to lose money.

freddyg12 07-23-2009 10:30 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;569464]I think his last interview was in early April with Doc Walker (and Cerrato) to talk about the past off-season and the upcoming draft. He never (or very very rarely) speaks during the season but the off-season is different.

[B]I think the perception of him is far from the reality.[/B] And he's undoubtedly grown as an owner and as a person in the past decade.[/quote]

How so? Not disputing your info & insight, just wonder specifically what you mean. I think your statement here is at least a little ironic, considering that he's built his wealth w/marketing & pr businesses, yet he seems to be TERRIBLE at pr & marketing w/his own image!

I'm not saying he should be out in front of a mic all the time, but JLC had a good point about J. Jones. JJ does talk to the press more than needed, but overall he's accountable to the public & doesn't shy away from speaking to the public. I think Snyder's reluctance to talk to the press kind of fuels his reputation as a petulant, behind the scenes filthy rich dude that doesn't care what the fans think about his business decisions cause he knows he can sell out fedex w/a 5-11 Ole ball coach team.

MTK 07-23-2009 10:37 AM

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[quote=mredskins;569466]Hmmm... ok lets say he signs Albert to $100m (which he did) how much money does he make off that signing. Think jersey sales, ticket slaes, etc. It gets fans pumped up for the upcoming season which translates into dollars. I am not saying he signed AH just to make money but he sure didn't do it to lose money.[/quote]

Merch and ticket sales are going to be pretty consistent regardless of who is wearing a Skins jersey.

How much additional revenue do you think could be directly tied to Haynesworth being a Redskin? Would that revenue ever justify the price of the contract, let alone show in a profit?

SmootSmack 07-23-2009 10:41 AM

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[quote=freddyg12;569467]How so? Not disputing your info & insight, just wonder specifically what you mean. I think your statement here is at least a little ironic, considering that he's built his wealth w/marketing & pr businesses, yet he seems to be TERRIBLE at pr & marketing w/his own image!

I'm not saying he should be out in front of a mic all the time, but JLC had a good point about J. Jones. JJ does talk to the press more than needed, but overall he's accountable to the public & doesn't shy away from speaking to the public. I think Snyder's reluctance to talk to the press kind of fuels his reputation as a petulant, behind the scenes filthy rich dude that doesn't care what the fans think about his business decisions cause he knows he can sell out fedex w/a 5-11 Ole ball coach team.[/quote]

Yeah I know there are a lot of people who think "Snyder's the GM anyway, why doesn't he just give himself the title and stop pretending like he's not."

I think the perception of him is that he's an overbearing owner to the point that he's even telling Zorn what plays to run and who to play. But the reality is that he's just like most other owners. The buck stops with him, but it takes many steps before it even gets to him.

How many owners really talk to the press during the season anyway? And what does he have to gain from it?

mredskins 07-23-2009 10:46 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;569470]Merch and ticket sales are going to be pretty consistent regardless of who is wearing a Skins jersey.

How much additional revenue do you think could be directly tied to Haynesworth being a Redskin? Would that revenue ever justify the price of the contract, let alone show in a profit?[/quote]


IDK but I find it hard to beleive someone is not tracking the ROI on a $100 million purchase.

firstdown 07-23-2009 10:46 AM

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[quote=djnemo65;569454]Also, didn't we just try and trade the house and kitchen sink for Jay Cutler? I don't think he learned that from Gibbs. Every time you buy into the Snyder has changed line you wake up to read about us trying to trade two number one picks for Chad Johnson, or something else crazy. So I'm not convinced he's learned his lesson completely.[/quote]
I thought the reason we did not get him was because we where not willing to trade the house and sink.

MTK 07-23-2009 10:48 AM

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[quote=mredskins;569474]IDK but I find it hard to beleive someone is not tracking the ROI on a $100 million purchase.[/quote]

Even if they are I can't believe AH's merch sales would come anywhere near justifying the contract. That's just not a sound investment if that's what they are thinking.

skinsfan69 07-23-2009 10:51 AM

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[quote=mredskins;569466]Hmmm... ok lets say he signs Albert to $100m (which he did) how much money does he make off that signing. Think jersey sales, ticket slaes, etc. It gets fans pumped up for the upcoming season which translates into dollars. I am not saying he signed AH just to make money but he sure didn't do it to lose money.[/quote]

I really don't think Snyder signs guys with a thought of selling jerseys. He wants to win and proves it by the money he puts into the team. Sure he's a business man but I think he signs guys so he can win first and market second. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, jersey sales are more for the skill guys, not lineman.

SmootSmack 07-23-2009 10:53 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;569478]I really don't think Snyder signs guys with a thought of selling jerseys. He wants to win and proves it by the money he puts into the team. Sure he's a business man but I think he signs guys so he can win first and market second. Nothing wrong with that. Besides, jersey sales are more for the skill guys, not lineman.[/quote]

Right, and if it was just about selling jerseys we'd be going after guys like Mike Vick and Terrell Owens. Who really thinks he approved going after Hunter Smith and Derrick Dockery with the thought of "Hunter Smith jerseys are going to fly off the shelf!"

CRedskinsRule 07-23-2009 10:56 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;569480]Right, and if it was just about selling jerseys we'd be going after guys like Mike Vick and Terrell Owens. Who really thinks he approved going after Hunter Smith and Derrick Dockery with the thought of "Hunter Smith jerseys are going to fly off the shelf!"[/quote]

I tell you what H. Smith may be my next Jersey. I was and still am excited that we got him.

As to the rest of the Jersey discussion, if just signing A Haynesworth brought in 100million in jersey sales, then the low end revenue teams would do that. ie Bills bringing TO in, that was a jersey signing. AH was just the best available, and DS sunk his money into him. Heres hoping it pays off bigtime for him. :food-smil

mredskins 07-23-2009 11:08 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;569477]Even if they are I can't believe AH's merch sales would come anywhere near justifying the contract. That's just not a sound investment if that's what they are thinking.[/quote]


Merch sales are just a piece of the revenue pie, he still has a lot of club seats for sale and AH type signing creates a buzz that helps move the sale of those seats.

I will say it again you don't sign a AH type contract thinking you are losing money. AH creates wins/buzz and wins/buzz help fuel the revenue machine.

over the mountain 07-23-2009 12:31 PM

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[quote=firstdown;569475]I thought the reason we did not get him was because we where not willing to trade the house and sink.[/quote]

im pretty sure we offered them 2 1st rounders or a 1st and conditional 3rd that could have become a 1st. the bengals said no.

DS is what he is, a young owner who used to not hide his hands-on approach to running an NFL team. i dont think DS has changed that much, the only real change i see is that he doesnt put himself and his actions out in public as much but you still hear about how he is at every dinner meeting with any potential player.

do you really think he doesnt tell cerrato what he thinks after meeting with a player?

do you really think cerrato doesnt weigh heavily what his boss DS's thinks?

yeah i like that he likes to spend money but when the discussion of "you can't buy a championship" comes up a picture of the DS pops up. it could be worse, it could be better. but i dont think DS has changed his stripes that much given the offseason of signings and failed trade attempts this year.

go skins!!

53Fan 07-23-2009 12:42 PM

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I think Snyder has matured somewhat. But just when I'm starting to feel really good about him he does something assinine. At least he's learned to pull back a little and not give up the farm just to get what he wants at the time. (Cutler-Sanchez) I guess that's progress. He's still a little scary though.

Zerohero 07-23-2009 12:59 PM

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[quote=firstdown;569475]I thought the reason we did not get him was because we where not willing to trade the house and sink.[/quote]

And nobody wanted Campbell in a trade, but seriously every time Redskins are "interested" Synder is immediately bashed for offering too much when in some cases there might have been no offers just interest.

SmootSmack 07-23-2009 01:02 PM

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Do people think that other owners don't meet with free agents and draft picks as a final decision is about to be made or that other owners aren't consulted by their coaches/front office before a final decision is made?

FRPLG 07-23-2009 01:18 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;569516]Do people think that other owners don't meet with free agents and draft picks as a final decision is about to be made or that other owners aren't consulted by their coaches/front office before a final decision is made?[/quote]

I would think most people can reason out that most of what Snyder gets killed for now is crap. He's just another owner doing ownerly things. The media gets great traction out of bashing him and celebrating the wining and dining comes FA time ...it's easy and effective and now perception has become reality. What it some down to though is that we care so damn much. The Lerners suck donkey balls but no one cares too much. Snyder does the exact opposite of them and everyone hates him. Go figure.

SFREDSKIN 07-23-2009 01:45 PM

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He has had some events in his life the last couple of years, I believe like he mentioned that those episodes have made him mature and look at life in a different way. Now lets get the ship straighten out and win some SB's.

Paintrain 07-23-2009 01:52 PM

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[quote=mredskins;569474]IDK but I find it hard to beleive someone is not tracking the ROI on a $100 million purchase.[/quote]

Other than individual jersey sales how can you accurately attribute anything to a player move?

Paintrain 07-23-2009 01:59 PM

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Progress does not equal perfection. Let's think Snyder '01 and Cutler comes available. Do you think he would have hesitated to send 2 first round and 2 second round picks plus a player to Denver just to get his man? How about if it was Sanchez, he would have traded next year's #1 without blinking.

He is and always will be aggressive when it comes to acquiring players, but rather than being reckless, he's now more measured.

CRedskinsRule 07-23-2009 02:01 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;569508]...

do you really think he doesnt tell cerrato what he thinks after meeting with a player?

do you really think cerrato doesnt weigh heavily what his boss DS's thinks?
...
go skins!![/quote]

I know the owner of the company I work for (my boss) tells me what he thinks of items that come up, I know it weighs heavily on what I do. I don't think that is wrong. What is important, is that he, DS, is in the process of learning so that when he speaks, it has a basis in football reality, not fan based reality.

I have no problem with an owner being involved, as long as he is knowledgeable. I think Dan is growing that way.

CRedskinsRule 07-23-2009 02:04 PM

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I say let's get him a superbowl win for his 10th season! Who's with me!

:food-smil

Lotus 07-23-2009 02:10 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;569533]I say let's get him a superbowl win for his 10th season! Who's with me!

:food-smil[/quote]

Yes sir! Great idea! :food-smil

53Fan 07-23-2009 02:19 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;569533]I say let's get him a superbowl win for his 10th season! Who's with me!

:food-smil[/quote]

I'm there! :woot:

freddyg12 07-23-2009 03:07 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;569472]Yeah I know there are a lot of people who think "Snyder's the GM anyway, why doesn't he just give himself the title and stop pretending like he's not."

I think the perception of him is that he's an overbearing owner to the point that he's even telling Zorn what plays to run and who to play. But the reality is that he's just like most other owners. The buck stops with him, but it takes many steps before it even gets to him.

How many owners really talk to the press during the season anyway? And what does he have to gain from it?[/quote]

Ok, I'll agree that there is a general perception of him along those lines, and that much of it is likely false. But among people here on the warpath, e.g., there are still strong feelings & opinions that he has been less than exemplary in his dealings w/key people & coaches. See G. Williams & the rumors about Spags, Lavar, Coles, etc. I'd like to think the hardcore skins fans would at least try to like him. I really don't know whether to like him or not, but I think he's done more good than harm for the avg. fan over the last handful of years. (Note: I don't own any tickets!)

To answer your last question, when things that affect the team become public, Snyder, aside from the ST tragedy (which he handled w/class), only issues a statement through a spokesman, if that. I'm not saying in all cases he should step up to the podium, but his reluctance to do so only adds to what has been a fairly bad public image IMO.

Lotus 07-23-2009 04:32 PM

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[quote=freddyg12;569558]Ok, I'll agree that there is a general perception of him along those lines, and that much of it is likely false. But among people here on the warpath, e.g., there are still strong feelings & opinions that he has been less than exemplary in his dealings w/key people & coaches. See G. Williams & the rumors about Spags, Lavar, Coles, etc. [B]I'd like to think the hardcore skins fans would at least try to like him.[/B] I really don't know whether to like him or not, but I think he's done more good than harm for the avg. fan over the last handful of years. (Note: I don't own any tickets!)

To answer your last question, when things that affect the team become public, Snyder, aside from the ST tragedy (which he handled w/class), only issues a statement through a spokesman, if that. I'm not saying in all cases he should step up to the podium, but his reluctance to do so only adds to what has been a fairly bad public image IMO.[/quote]

As a person who has never liked Danny much, to try to like Snyder I tell myself that he's better than an owner who refuses to pay for needed talent.

Giantone 07-23-2009 04:44 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;569451]Is it just me or does a piece like this come out every summer around this time??[/quote]

Seems like it, look I've never doubted his heart for the team or the game and never have I said one word about his love for his family or the way he come in to help others.
My bitch on him is one thing and only one thing,he doesn't listen to the people who know the game,you guys need a GM and need to dump Vinny.

Giantone 07-23-2009 04:46 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;569533]I say let's get him a superbowl win for his 10th season! Who's with me!

:food-smil[/quote]

..........:silly:, I'll pass.:twocents:

SmootSmack 07-23-2009 05:02 PM

Re: 10 Years of Snyder-AP Interview
 
[quote=Giantone;569597] My bitch on him is one thing and only one thing,he doesn't listen to the people who know the game,you guys need a GM and need to dump Vinny.[/quote]

What does that even mean? These are the cliched canned responses people seem to have but what do you mean he doesn't listen to the people who know the game or we need a GM

dan_snyder69 07-23-2009 06:19 PM

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Yea, he doesn't listen to people who know the game? Says who?

We all know how important first impressions are. Unfortunately for Snyder, he gave the public less than favorable first impressions his first 5 years or so. He has changed his ways to have more restraint in every aspect of his ownership. Knowledgeable fans realize this. However, the general public will not give him credit, until we start winning more consistently.

I feel kind of bad for him even though I used to hate him. He's done all the right things lately, with little payoff in the wins column. Hopefully that starts to change soon, I have a feeling it might.

SFREDSKIN 07-23-2009 06:35 PM

Re: 10 Years of Snyder-AP Interview
 
[quote=dan_snyder69;569613]Yea, he doesn't listen to people who know the game? Says who?

We all know how important first impressions are. Unfortunately for Snyder, he gave the public less than favorable first impressions his first 5 years or so. He has changed his ways to have more restraint in every aspect of his ownership. Knowledgeable fans realize this. However, the general public will not give him credit, until we start winning more consistently.

I feel kind of bad for him even though I used to hate him. He's done all the right things lately, with little payoff in the wins column. Hopefully that starts to change soon, I have a feeling it might.[/quote]

Speak for yourself :)


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