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[URL="http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20090728/US.TV.Beck.Obama/"][B][COLOR=#215e86]Glenn Beck: Obama Is a Racist[/COLOR][/B][/URL]
i know alot of you guys do not like our president. but do you believe this?

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[quote=dmek25;570664][URL="http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20090728/US.TV.Beck.Obama/"][B][COLOR=#215e86]Glenn Beck: Obama Is a Racist[/COLOR][/B][/URL]
i know alot of you guys do not like our president. but do you believe this?[/quote]

I don't believe that anymore than I believe this:

[url=http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Bush%20Racism]Is Bush Racist[/url]

Do you believe that?

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Glen Beck, I believe, is a religious zealot and a scare-monger. Eff him.

I do wonder what 20 years of Jeremiah Wright 'Coming Home To Roost' style rants would do. However BHO is bright, I can't imagine he's that shallow.

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[quote=RedskinRat;570681]Glen Beck, I believe, is a religious zealot and a scare-monger. Eff him.

[B]I do wonder what 20 years of Jeremiah Wright 'Coming Home To Roost' style rants would do. However BHO is bright, I can't imagine he's that shallow.[/B][/quote]



obama is definately a racist, imo. he's surrounded himself with a few others as well. hell, he just nominated a racist for the supreme court. just because someone is "bright" does'nt mean they're not racist.

by the way, has obama ever showed proof he was born in the USA ?

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[quote=wolfeskins;570685]obama is definately a racist, imo. he's surrounded himself with a few others as well. hell, he just nominated a racist for the supreme court. just because someone is "bright" does'nt mean they're not racist.

[B]by the way, has obama ever showed proof he was born in the USA [/B]?[/quote]
[URL="http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/-1/RSS02?source=rss_localnews"]Hawaii confirmed it again today. [/URL] Can we please let that one go. maybe. please.

President Obama is our president. He is an intelligent man. Could he be racist, sure, have we had racist presidents before, um yeah. Will it in the end define his presidency, only if people allow it to. Me personally, I say can't we all just accept that some feelings run deep, and maybe just maybe we can live not at the feeling level, but the rational level.

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<sigh> Has training camp startd yet?

Everyone is a rascist, everyone is selfish, all the freaks, lefties, righties, in-betweenies, and anyone who disagrees with your point of view is evil with an intent to overthrow the US, destroy civil liberties and promote anarchy.

Always assume people talking out their ass are speaking for anyone who agrees with any portion of their other opinions. In fact, just assume the worst about everyone else b/c its just easier that way and doesn't require any thought whatsoever.

Dialogue is useless. Let's just hate. It's much much easer.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;570687][URL="http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/-1/RSS02?source=rss_localnews"]Hawaii confirmed it again today. [/URL] Can we please let that one go. maybe. please.

President Obama is our president. He is an intelligent man. Could he be racist, sure, have we had racist presidents before, um yeah. Will it in the end define his presidency, only if people allow it to. Me personally, I say can't we all just accept that some feelings run deep, and maybe just maybe we can live not at the feeling level, [B]but the rational level[/B].[/quote]

Rational thought be damned! Mob Rule! Mob Rule!!!!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;570689]Rational thought be damned! Mob Rule! Mob Rule!!!![/quote]

I feel ya!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;570688]<sigh> Has training camp startd yet?

Everyone is a rascist, everyone is selfish, all the freaks, lefties, righties, in-betweenies, and anyone who disagrees with your point of view is evil with an intent to overthrow the US, destroy civil liberties and promote anarchy.

Always assume people talking out their ass are speaking for anyone who agrees with any portion of their other opinions. In fact, just assume the worst about everyone else b/c its just easier that way and doesn't require any thought whatsoever.

Dialogue is useless. Let's just hate. It's much much easer.[/quote]
Would you PLEASE take a finite postion you racist bastard so I can blast you for it!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;570689]Rational thought be damned! Mob Rule! Mob Rule!!!![/quote]

When you listen to fools . . . . THE MOB RULES!

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If someone had sat in the Church of David Duke for twenty years, I'd bet my bottom dollar that said person was a racist.

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[quote=Hog1;570696]Would you PLEASE take a finite postion you racist bastard so I can blast you for it![/quote]

That's saden's job.

Oops - there I go jabbing away.

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Ooops..........

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I can't watch this show for more then a minute.

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Yeah he's for real. It makes me think of Kanye West's "George Bush doesn't care about black people comment."

Obama came into office in an amazingly difficult climate, and unfortunately we're still not sure if he's quite up to the task. It would be almost tolerable if he wasn't such a raging hypocrite. Preaching tightening the belt, moderation, mindfulness in spending, all the while his wife has become a fashion icon with her super expensive outfits and accessories, the couple is taking dinner outings to NYC costing the US taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars, not to mention the $50,000/week vacation they have planned for August in Martha's Vineyard. I wonder what the carbon footprint of that estate is?? Do as I say, not as I do, I guess.

I suppose 7 months in office in the worst climate in decades earns you a $50K/week vacation. :doh:

Funny how he can accuse someone of "acting stupidly" on the job while he is doing just that. How perfectly oxymoronic. I love that one of the arresting officers in the Gates case was black, and defended the arrest 100%.

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please don't tell me anyone with half a brain takes this guy seriously

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I was more amazed by the fact no one on Fox cared to point out to Mr. Beck that Obama's mother is white and both grandparents who helped raise him were white. In my mind, the argument stops right there.

But I guess facts don't matter when you're making an emotionally based argument to begin with.

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[quote=12thMan;570826]I was more amazed by the fact no one on Fox cared to point out to Mr. Beck that Obama's mother is white and both grandparents who helped raise him were white. In my mind, the argument stops right there.

But I guess facts don't matter when you're making an emotionally based argument to begin with.[/quote]

One drop rule coming back to haunt.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;570839]One drop rule coming back to haunt.[/quote]


Aint it the truth.

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Obama is not a racist he just said something stupid. He's human. It was stupid and our president needs to think before he speaks but it was a slip.

It's sad that the "race card" has to be played out so much. In this example, you have the most powerful person in America basically calling out everypolice officer in America. Calling them stupid and accusing of racism. Yeah, i know he didn't mean everyone, but there are ears listening to what the man sais. How are others going to respect the police dept when our leader doesn't.

He's not a racist but he does need to watch what he sais.

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What I love is that when you ask the guy for examples, he's like: "Just 'cause that's what I think."

Great proof there chief.

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[quote=redsk1;570858]Obama is not a racist he just said something stupid. He's human. It was stupid and our president needs to think before he speaks but it was a slip.

It's sad that the "race card" has to be played out so much. In this example, you have the most powerful person in America basically calling out everypolice officer in America. Calling them stupid and accusing of racism. Yeah, i know he didn't mean everyone, but there are ears listening to what the man sais. How are others going to respect the police dept when our leader doesn't.

He's not a racist but he does need to watch what he sais.[/quote]

You're right. He's not a racist, he just plays one on TV.

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[quote=12thMan;570826]I was more amazed by the fact no one on Fox cared to point out to Mr. Beck that Obama's mother is white and both grandparents who helped raise him were white. In my mind, the argument stops right there.

[B]But I guess facts don't matter when you're making an emotionally based argument to begin with[/B].[/quote]

Exactly. Kind of like Obama saying the cops acted stupidly in the first place despite the facts.

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[quote=GMScud;570878]Exactly. Kind of like Obama saying the cops acted stupidly in the first place despite the facts.[/quote]

Sure, if you want to draw that type of comparison.

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[quote=12thMan;570982]Sure, if you want to draw that type of comparison.[/quote]

For the record I do not think that Obama is racist. I do however think he was acting stupidly when he said the Cambridge police were, ummm, acting stupidly. I don't care if he felt that way about the situation, it should have been left unsaid.

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I would compare Beck's charge of racism to those who charged Bush of being racist because of the Katrina response. Both statements are irresponsible and neither statement has any credibility.

While I don't believe the President to be a racist, I do believe he allowed his personal friendship with Gates to cloud his judgement and make the statement he did without all the facts.

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[quote=GMScud;570878]Exactly. Kind of like Obama saying the cops acted stupidly in the first place despite the facts.[/quote]

You find out lot more bout a person without the teleprompter telling him what to say.

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^^ that is why I always carry my handy-dandy prompt cam. It always tells me what to say, and just the right way too



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[quote=CRedskinsRule;571007]^^ that is why I always carry my handy-dandy prompt cam. It always tells me what to say, and just the right way too



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LOL. Maybe Rhambo should get that for Obama

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;571007]^^ that is why I always carry my handy-dandy prompt cam. It always tells me what to say, and just the right way too [/quote]

Oh please, like any device could "prompt" men on how to talk to girlfriends/wives. The damn think would give you the blank screen the first time it encountered a woman during PMS.

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The cops acted stupidly point blank period. The charges were dropped, couldn't stand up in any court of law even in South Carolina. In this system the cops can arrest you but the prosecutor has to prosecute. Now how can you prosecute if no crime was committed? Calling someone a racists who is not a racist is not a crime. Glenn Beck's point exactly. He was doing to Obama what Professor Gates did to the cop. The cops reaction was weak, he should have been more professional. You don't arrest people who have not committed a crime, unless you want the prosecutor to look at you like you acted stupidly when he has to drop the charges and apologize. I don't think the officer is racist, I just think he needs vacation or something. As for the black police officers. They better agree with the other cops, everyone understands that cops stick together.

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OBAMA was right. Crowley lied in his police report. Two lies in his police report. Actually the police report is not facts. The 911 tapes are facts. Crowley lied.

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Saying Obama is a rascist when he has a white mother and white grandparents is like saying George Bush speaks English at a 12 grade level...........................It just doesn't make any sense.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;571044]The cops acted stupidly point blank period. The charges were dropped, couldn't stand up in any court of law even in South Carolina. In this system the cops can arrest you but the prosecutor has to prosecute. Now how can you prosecute if no crime was committed? Calling someone a racists who is not a racist is not a crime. Glenn Beck's point exactly. He was doing to Obama what Professor Gates did to the cop. The cops reaction was weak, he should have been more professional. You don't arrest people who have not committed a crime, unless you want the prosecutor to look at you like you acted stupidly when he has to drop the charges and apologize. I don't think the officer is racist, I just think he needs vacation or something. As for the black police officers. They better agree with the other cops, everyone understands that cops stick together.[/quote]

I see you bought the handy dandy PromptCam from the late night infomercial too. Thank you for your patronage.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;571045]OBAMA was right. Crowley lied in his police report. Two lies in his police report. Actually the police report is not facts. The 911 tapes are facts. Crowley lied.[/quote]

How so? I hadn't seen that anywhere.

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Lie #1: Well, the 911 caller says she did not say the suspects were black. 911 call confirms her story. Crowley's report says she said two black suspects.

Lie #2: Crowley says he spoke to the 911 caller at the scene. 911 caller was never at the scene, did not kow what the scene was. she was relaying to 911 what an elderly lady had told her.

My suspicion: Crowley brings the professor to jail. What are the charges? Disorderly conduct. Here comes the lawyer: hmm, man at home, showed his ID, wasn't cooperating, cooperating with what?

Prosecutor: Not gonna embarass me in court. Gates would have a field day.

(Crowley slumped over his desk trying to use the race card to cover his stupid arrest that can't be prosecuted.)

Read any article about the 911 caller being upset at being called a racist and there you find the lies, documented. Let's have a beer, you were wrong Crowley, but no need to stir up the masses waiting to pounce on conspiracy theories about communism or the impending demotion of america's upper crust.

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Logic and coherent argument are no friend of this thread. For every lucid point made, a string of rants seem to follow.

Ahhh, the parking lot - where intelligent discussion goes to die.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;571119]Lie #1: Well, the 911 caller says she did not say the suspects were black. 911 call confirms her story. Crowley's report says she said two black suspects.[/quote]You do understand officers complete reports pretty much immediately after an incident. Considering all that happened, the fact that Crowley made this misstatement in his report has no bearing on what happpened. Also, 911 calls are relayed to officers through 911 center personnel, who knows what was actually relayed to Crowley.

[quote]Lie #2: Crowley says he spoke to the 911 caller at the scene. 911 caller was never at the scene, did not kow what the scene was. she was relaying to 911 what an elderly lady had told her.[/quote]If these are the actual police reports:

[URL="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates1.html"]Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Police Report - July 23, 2009[/URL]

Then Officer Figueroa and Ms. Whalen are liars also. You don't have your facts straight. Ms. Whalen was on-scene.

[quote]My suspicion: Crowley brings the professor to jail. What are the charges? Disorderly conduct. Here comes the lawyer: hmm, man at home, showed his ID, wasn't cooperating, cooperating with what?

Prosecutor: Not gonna embarass me in court. Gates would have a field day.

(Crowley slumped over his desk trying to use the race card to cover his stupid arrest that can't be prosecuted.)[/quote]How about this. City of Cambridge doesn't want an ongoing, racially charged, and very expensive media circus along with wasting man-hours on prosecution of a disorderly conduct charge.

I guess this doesn't matter either (from CNN):

[URL="http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/24/officer.gates.arrest/index.html"]Obama: I didn't mean to slight Cambridge police - CNN.com[/URL]

"Numerous police officers, including African-Americans, have spoken up on Crowley's behalf and portrayed him as a good and fair officer. Crowley, who is white, had once been chosen by a black police officer to teach a police academy course on ways to avoid racial profiling.
Obama said he had heard of Crowley's record, saying, "I don't know all the extenuating circumstances, and as I said, I respect what police officers do. From what I can tell, the sergeant who was involved is an outstanding police officer, but my suspicion is probably it would have been better if cooler heads prevailed."

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Point 1. We should respect the police department they do a dangerous job.
Point 2. Having said that, in the American justice system we have checks and balances.
Point 3. Lieing on police reports distorts the public's view of the police department.
Point 4. Once the police make an arrest the prosecutors look at the charges. If it's a bogus arrest, charges get dropped.
Point 5. Charges got dropped. Arrest not justified.
Point 6. Glenn Beck's strategy is to find wedge issues, Obama against the common blue collar guy.
Point 7. The average blue collar guy has had to deal with arbitrary arrests "disorderly conduct" with the police.
Point 8. Thank God for checks and balances. Take me to jail if you want, i will see you in court or not. If the prosecutor can't find a law i have broken.

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[quote=wolfeskins;570685]obama is definately a racist, imo. he's surrounded himself with a few others as well. hell, he just nominated a racist for the supreme court. just because someone is "bright" does'nt mean they're not racist.

by the way, has obama ever showed proof he was born in the USA ?[/quote]

Absolutely. He also showed a lot of racial bias in his immediate conclusion jumping after the Professor Gates debacle...saying the police acted "stupidly" by arresting Gates, before even getting the facts of the case. Gates was the perpetrator in everything that went wrong in that incident. The police responded to a home that had previously been broken into twice before from a call that two men were outside, prying on the door with a crowbar. All the cop did was ask for ID and Gates flipped out with accusations of racism. It's all recorded.

He surrounds himself with racists and is even building things such as preferential treatment to blacks in some of these healthcare and stimulus bills in lieu of reparations.

[url=http://www.nationalcenter.org/2009/07/race-preferences-in-health-care-bill.html]Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog: Race Preferences in Health Care Bill[/url]

[url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/racial_preferences_in_the_demo_1.html]American Thinker: Racial Preferences in the Democrats' Health Care Bill[/url]



He's definitely trying to follow his pastor for 20 years and trying to push the black community into a position of power and superiority over white Americans. He's just counting on these multi-thousand page bills will not be read before their passing...which is Congress' (at least the majority party's modus operandi.


To not see President Obama's racist tendencies is to be very naive.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;571044]The cops acted stupidly point blank period. The charges were dropped, couldn't stand up in any court of law even in South Carolina. In this system the cops can arrest you but the prosecutor has to prosecute. Now how can you prosecute if no crime was committed? Calling someone a racists who is not a racist is not a crime. Glenn Beck's point exactly. He was doing to Obama what Professor Gates did to the cop. The cops reaction was weak, he should have been more professional. You don't arrest people who have not committed a crime, unless you want the prosecutor to look at you like you acted stupidly when he has to drop the charges and apologize. I don't think the officer is racist, I just think he needs vacation or something. As for the black police officers. They better agree with the other cops, everyone understands that cops stick together.[/quote]

Not cooperating with police is deserving of an arrest. You sound as racially-biased as Gates and the President.