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Schneed10 08-03-2009 01:21 PM

Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
ACL tear, out for season.

Significant loss. He had 151 tackles last year and is the team's defensive signal-caller, a role that will especially be missed with Dawkins no longer there.

[url=http://cbs3.com/topstories/Stewart.Bradley.Eagles.2.1112588.html]Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Tears ACL, Likely Out For The Season - cbs3.com[/url]

wilsowilso 08-03-2009 01:26 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
If we lost London it would be a major blow. Our defense would still be strong, but not as good.

That is just a massive loss for them.

hail_2_da_skins 08-03-2009 01:30 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Bummer. Sounds like the start of the Skins '08 training camp. My condolences.

over the mountain 08-03-2009 01:39 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
^^^ was that when we had that ridiculus amount of hammy problems.

that is a big loss for the eagles. sucks to see a young guy just starting to make a name for himself get injured like that.

go skins!!

skinsfan69 08-03-2009 01:42 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
The Eagles defense is going to take a hit this year. Bradley is an underrated MLB. Sucks for them but injuries are going to happen to everyone.

chrisl13 08-03-2009 01:46 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.

I wouldn't wish this on any team because we all know how this feels (i.e. Training camp 2008). They're really gonna miss him because they won't really have a vocal leader to take B. Dawks spot.

Tough break (Or tear in this matter).

FRPLG 08-03-2009 01:52 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
I don't feel bad for them. I also don't wish it on anybody or team. But we've had this happen to us and it can basically derail a season. Hopefully it is someone else's term to deal with this. Health plays such a huge part of a team's success.

CRedskinsRule 08-03-2009 02:01 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
So they have let Dawkins go, their DC died :(, and now they lose their starting MLB. What a rough patch. I am not "shedding tears" we had that last year, but certainly they are gonna have a harder go of it, then some in the media were thinking.

vallin21 08-03-2009 02:02 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Tough. But it's part of football, better them than us.

chrisl13 08-03-2009 02:03 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
They'll probably go after Derrick Brooks.

Miller101 08-03-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;572135]So they have let Dawkins go, their DC died :(, and now they lose their starting MLB. What a rough patch. I am not "shedding tears" we had that last year, but certainly they are gonna have a harder go of it, then some in the media were thinking.[/quote]

Dayum! I didn't realize all that, but dang. You aren't kidding! Their defense is REAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY going to suck this year! I almost feel sorry for them. Well, actually I do. I never thought I'd say that about a rival, but I do. Just because of Jim Johnson. He was one of the few defensive coordinators in the league that I actually respected.

You know what.................I'm going to be drafting at least one philly reciever this year and try to get McNabb on my team, because they are going to be throwing that ball ALOT this year!

chrisl13 08-03-2009 02:43 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=Miller101;572140]Dayum! I didn't realize all that, but dang. You aren't kidding! Their defense is REAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY going to suck this year! I almost feel sorry for them. Well, actually I do. I never thought I'd say that about a rival, but I do. Just because of Jim Johnson. He was one of the few defensive coordinators in the league that I actually respected.

You know what.................[B]I'm going to be drafting at least one philly reciever this year and try to get McNabb on my team, because they are going to be throwing that ball ALOT this year[/B]![/quote]

Smart move.

saden1 08-03-2009 03:16 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Sucks for them, good for the rest us.

GTripp0012 08-03-2009 03:23 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Put me on record saying this injury is more devastating than losing anyone else on that D, possible exception to Bunkley or Mikell.

If Jim Johnson was still around, you'd think they could pull out a bag of tricks and blitz their way out of this one. They may still try under McDermott, but their chances of success are much lower.

MTK 08-03-2009 03:26 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Sucks for them but oh well. Everyone has to adjust to injuries.

Skinny Tee 08-03-2009 04:18 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
I'm sure Philly fans feel really bad when we have training camp injuries...

It's a part of the game and I'd be remiss if I didn't say I'm glad that it didn't happen to us. Injuries are all chance, they happen to all teams regardless of whether you wish for it or not.

I'm just glad it wasn't a Skin.

firstdown 08-03-2009 04:35 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
While he had a big year last year the team has plenty of time to fill the void. They have a good coaching staff and as with all good teams they over come these issues. Now if injuries start stacking up then they might have an issue.

Schneed10 08-03-2009 11:08 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Omar Gaither was not penciled in to be a starter this year, so it seems he'll now get the first crack at replacing Bradley. They're using Gocong and Hakeem Jordan on the outside, and Gaither is kind of the versatile fill-in, kind of the way we've used Blades in the past.

They do have Joe Mays, who reminds me a lot of HB Blades. He was a rookie last year, drafted in the 6th round out of North Dakota State, 5' 11" and 246 pounds. Word is he has decent speed and a nose for the ball. Height is the only knock. He might earn some time.

But yeah, no matter what the Eagles lost the QB of their defense and a guy who was developing into quite a leader, and a pretty athletic player to boot. They'll miss him.

53Fan 08-03-2009 11:15 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
I feel bad for the player but screw the team. We've been there before and the amount of pity we got wouldn't fill a thimble. Hail Redskins!

Ruhskins 08-03-2009 11:18 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=53Fan;572274]I feel bad for the player but screw the team. We've been there before and the amount of pity we got wouldn't fill a thimble. Hail Redskins![/quote]

Well I'm wondering how many Iggles fans are believe Mike Florio's gloom and doom about Haynesworth's knee.

53Fan 08-03-2009 11:41 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=Ruhskins;572276]Well I'm wondering how many Iggles fans are believe Mike Florio's gloom and doom about Haynesworth's knee.[/quote]

I'm sure they're hoping he's right.

Ruhskins 08-03-2009 11:45 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
In other Iggle news, according to [URL="http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter"]Adam Schefter's Twitter page[/URL], Maclin reaches a 5-year deal with the Eagles.

Matt Moseley also reports on ESPN, no details on the contract yet...

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4375430]Philadelphia Eagles agree to deal with Jeremy Maclin - ESPN[/url]

SmootSmack 08-04-2009 12:19 AM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Eagles seem to have found some linebacker help

[url=http://www3.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/chargers/2009/aug/03/wilhelm-eagles/?chargers]"Wilhelm to Eagles" by Chargers Blog[/url]

GTripp0012 08-04-2009 12:25 AM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Wilhem is a nice little player, but the Eagles usually don't make mid level injury replacement signings. They usually don't have to. This appears to be an exception.

Ruhskins 08-04-2009 12:27 AM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=GTripp0012;572288]Wilhem is a nice little player, but the Eagles usually don't make mid level injury replacement signings. They usually don't have to. This appears to be an exception.[/quote]

Were they thin at LB after losing Bradley? Also, any issues with Wilhelm going from a 3-4 to a 4-3 system? Just curious.

GTripp0012 08-04-2009 12:31 AM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=Ruhskins;572290]Were they thin at LB after losing Bradley? Also, any issues with Wilhelm going from a 3-4 to a 4-3 system? Just curious.[/quote]Wilhelm was bad last year in the 3-4 (not that it was easy to play under two coordinators last year), he'll probably do better in the 4-3.

I feel like they were thin with Bradley. I think they took it for granted that effective linebackers could be found in the middle rounds of the draft, and I think they could, when Jim Johnson was running the show.

Gocong is a pretty good player, but I think Akeem Jordan, Omar Gaither, and Wilhelm are quite mediocre. Joe Mays is a guy a lot of fans think has a future, but we don't know anything about him any more than we know about someone like Alfred Fincher.

dmek25 08-04-2009 08:57 AM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Philly fans would laugh at big Al if he blew his knee out. now they just have a built in excuse for when they don't win.

Lotus 08-04-2009 10:12 AM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=GTripp0012;572291]Wilhelm was bad last year in the 3-4 (not that it was easy to play under two coordinators last year), he'll probably do better in the 4-3.

I feel like they were thin with Bradley. I think they took it for granted that effective linebackers could be found in the middle rounds of the draft, and I think they could, when Jim Johnson was running the show.

[B]Gocong is a pretty good player, but I think Akeem Jordan, Omar Gaither, and Wilhelm are quite mediocre.[/B] Joe Mays is a guy a lot of fans think has a future, but we don't know anything about him any more than we know about someone like Alfred Fincher.[/quote]

Yes, linebacker was already the thin layer of that defense before Bradley went down. Gaither and Jordan are not bad but they are not that great, either. I think losing Bradley really hurts the Philly defense.

Further, my hope is that their offensive line, which everyone touts as all-world, is not as good on the field as it is on paper. There are injury and chemistry concerns there.

My point is that the Iggles may not be the world beaters that many preseason prognosticators make them out to be.

CRedskinsRule 08-04-2009 10:18 AM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=Lotus;572351]Yes, linebacker was already the thin layer of that defense before Bradley went down. Gaither and Jordan are not bad but they are not that great, either. I think losing Bradley really hurts the Philly defense.

[B]Further, my hope is that their offensive line, which everyone touts as all-world, is not as good on the field as it is on paper. There are injury and chemistry concerns there.[/B]

My point is that the Iggles may not be the world beaters that many preseason prognosticators make them out to be.[/quote]

I agree. Andrews is already having issues (not a planned injection) and Peters sat out also. In fact I think Dallas and Philly both could see major problems on their line, ours may turn out to be the 2nd best in the division.

53Fan 08-04-2009 10:22 AM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=Lotus;572351]Yes, linebacker was already the thin layer of that defense before Bradley went down. Gaither and Jordan are not bad but they are not that great, either. I think losing Bradley really hurts the Philly defense.

Further, my hope is that their offensive line, which everyone touts as all-world, is not as good on the field as it is on paper. There are injury and chemistry concerns there.

My point is that the Iggles may not be the world beaters that many preseason prognosticators make them out to be.[/quote]

I totally agree Lotus. The loss of Jim Johnson, Bradley out for the year... And the assumption that the o-line will instantly gel, I kind of find that hard to believe that they will be one of the best lines in the league right away. Jackson had a good year, will he get extra attention from opposing defenses this year like Santana does? The rookies are just that...rookies. How they contribute is anyones guess right now. I hope they believe the hype.

Schneed10 08-04-2009 10:38 AM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
What's particularly interesting with the Eagles is how they choose to use their offensive line. It's now a huge group, with much better capability in drive-blocking. Shawn Andrews' return to the lineup makes the biggest impact in that department.

Their pass protection was pretty decent last year, certainly good enough to allow them to rack up impressive passing statistics. But it was their short-yardage run game that was pathetic. I distinctly remember on more than on occasion where Reid called 4 running plays from 1st and goal at like the 2, and failed to score. That's the component of the offense that is now vastly upgraded. There's not so much gelling that needs to be done when it comes to run blocking; that's an aspect of the game that's much more physical than mental. I don't think chemistry is a limiting factor for the run game.

However, the question is will they [B]choose[/B] to run? Reid is notorious for a heavy pass balance. His line just got much better in the run department. But as Lotus pointed out, chemistry could be a problem in pass protection. The smart playcaller would dial up Westbrook and McCoy all day every day. Or at least increase the screen passes going to them. But Reid isn't the best playcaller. We'll see if he wastes that line's talent.

If he uses it right, that line could make their offense top 3 in the NFL. They'll need it, because their defense should be middle of the road without Bradley and Jim Johnson.

huntz 08-04-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
I think they're deep at LB. Looks like Mays? will fill MLB for now.

Mc2guy 08-04-2009 01:44 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
The chicken littles are out in Philly already. See here.

[url=http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/michael-lore/index.ssf/2009/08/philadelphia_eagles_in_disarra.html]Philadelphia Eagles in disarray after one week of training camp - lehighvalleylive.com[/url]

GMScud 08-04-2009 02:26 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=Mc2guy;572398]The chicken littles are out in Philly already. See here.

[URL="http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/michael-lore/index.ssf/2009/08/philadelphia_eagles_in_disarra.html"]Philadelphia Eagles in disarray after one week of training camp - lehighvalleylive.com[/URL][/quote]

Eh. That article is pretty over the top. I think Philly's offense will be top 5, maybe top 3, but their D will settle in as a very average unit. No Bradley, Dawkins, or Jim Johnson will hurt them quite a bit.

Mc2guy 08-04-2009 02:45 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Totally agree...way over the top. Sounds more like fanboy writing, not journalism.

Philly will weather the storm. Their real loss was JJ (rip). I will be surprised if they can figure out how to bring the pressure they are accustomed to without Johnson scheming up some brilliant blitz packages. Particularly without Dawkins to rely on in the backfield.

SmootSmack 08-10-2009 12:35 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
Kevin Kolb was carted off the field this morning, going to get an MRI on his knee done later today.

dmek25 08-10-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
no loss. he wasn't going to sniff any action. but it does get the Philly idiots worked up

JLee9718 08-10-2009 07:00 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
The Redskins have some minor injuries right now, mostly to offensive players.

GMScud 08-10-2009 07:48 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=SmootSmack;574094]Kevin Kolb was carted off the field this morning, going to get an MRI on his knee done later today.[/quote]

Hmmmm.... Michael Vick perhaps??

44Deezel 08-10-2009 09:05 PM

Re: Eagles LB Stewart Bradley Out for Season
 
[quote=Schneed10;572362]What's particularly interesting with the Eagles is how they choose to use their offensive line. It's now a huge group, with much better capability in drive-blocking. Shawn Andrews' return to the lineup makes the biggest impact in that department.

Their pass protection was pretty decent last year, certainly good enough to allow them to rack up impressive passing statistics. But it was their short-yardage run game that was pathetic. I distinctly remember on more than on occasion where Reid called 4 running plays from 1st and goal at like the 2, and failed to score. That's the component of the offense that is now vastly upgraded. There's not so much gelling that needs to be done when it comes to run blocking; that's an aspect of the game that's much more physical than mental. I don't think chemistry is a limiting factor for the run game.

However, the question is will they [B]choose[/B] to run? Reid is notorious for a heavy pass balance. His line just got much better in the run department. But as Lotus pointed out, chemistry could be a problem in pass protection. The smart playcaller would dial up Westbrook and McCoy all day every day. Or at least increase the screen passes going to them. But Reid isn't the best playcaller. We'll see if he wastes that line's talent.

If he uses it right, that line could make their offense top 3 in the NFL. They'll need it, because their defense should be middle of the road without Bradley and Jim Johnson.[/quote]

Looks like they're considering bringing back Runyan:

[B]Eagles Battling Numerous Injuries, May Bring Back Jon Runyan[/B]

[url=http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/08/10/eagles-battling-numerous-injuries-may-bring-back-jon-runyan/]Eagles Battling Numerous Injuries, May Bring Back Jon Runyan -- NFL FanHouse[/url]


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