Smoke Signals: Can the 2008 rookie class bounce back?
 

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Added a poll

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Devin Thomas, pencil him in for 55 catches, 825 yards, 6 TD

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I can't believe I forgot to include Brennan...

I'm going with Rinehart, in a stunner

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[quote=Mattyk72;574409]Devin Thomas, pencil him in for 55 catches, 825 yards, 6 TD[/quote]

I'll see your 55 catches, 825 yards, 6TD and raise you to 66 catches 1136 yards, 8 TD.

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the latest article doesn't exactyl give you the feeling that Devin and Malcolm ar setting the world on fire. It seems this is one of the first to come out and say this. We have heard alot of good this offseason but with the preseason only 3 days away this doesn't sound to good for the young guys. Other than the feact that the new faces in the recieving core are going to get work and Thomas once again isn't...

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If Thomas gets 8 TDs and Santana Moss is not hurt then we go to the bowl.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;574423]the latest article doesn't exactyl give you the feeling that Devin and Malcolm ar setting the world on fire. It seems this is one of the first to come out and say this. We have heard alot of good this offseason but with the preseason only 3 days away this doesn't sound to good for the young guys. Other than the feact that the new faces in the recieving core are going to get work and Thomas once again isn't...[/quote]

What article are you talking about?

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;574425]If Thomas gets 8 TDs and Santana Moss is not hurt then we go to the bowl.[/quote]

Yeah, the Bourbon Bowl.

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Difficult to choose, especially when you try and set aside all the hopes and fears and look at who really will produce.
Devin Thomas is the easiest case, because of all the offseason reports, and the obvious need for someone to step into the role.

Malcolm Kelly likewise, but will his knee hold up.

Rinehart could be big, and would make a huge impact; but really he couldn't even get activated last season. so this year will be his makeup year. Next year is his year to do or die.

Tryon, Davis, and Moore don't all have someone in front of them so they will mainly shine if an injury forces them into the spotlight.

I wish I could wait and see which receiver goes against these pre-season d's and catches a fade at the back of the endzone.

But that would be wimping out.

So I will say Kelly. He will step up and is past the injury bug. Although he didn't get the reps last year, he saw DT's struggles and will quickly catch up. He will break 1000 yds, and become the goto threat with Cooley in the endzone. Atleast 7 TDs and possibly more.

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Bounce back? It's more like get going.

I'll go with Kelly.

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F. Davis.

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[quote=SmootSmack;574430]What article are you talking about?[/quote]

[URL="http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Thomas__Kelly_Facing_a_Sense_of_Urgency_46224.jsp"][COLOR=#800080]Thomas, Kelly Facing a Sense of Urgency[/COLOR][/URL]

this one.

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[quote=Angry;574431]Yeah, the Bourbon Bowl.[/quote]


Ha Ha Bourbon B:benched:owl.

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[quote=Mattyk72;574409]Devin Thomas, pencil him in for 55 catches, 825 yards, 6 TD[/quote]

HA! I love those stats which is why I voted for him. I love his size, speed, and the tattoos lol. I really think he will overcome his string of hamstring injuries and come out, take that #2 spot and do well. I REALLY want to see him and M. Kelly to succeed.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;574450][URL="http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Thomas__Kelly_Facing_a_Sense_of_Urgency_46224.jsp"][COLOR=#800080]Thomas, Kelly Facing a Sense of Urgency[/COLOR][/URL]

this one.[/quote]

I don't get the same sense of panic I think you do from that article. Yeah, they were a disappointment last year and they need to step it up this year. We all know that. I think you made it seem like they've taken a step back.

And unless I heard wrong this morning DT will play on Thursday

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we got NOTHING from these guys last year. NOTHING! i'd say that thomas and davis have the best chance since they'll probably be on the field the most.

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[quote=irish;574438]Bounce back?[B] It's more like get going[/B].

I'll go with Kelly.[/quote]

lol.

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[quote=SmootSmack;574459]I don't get the same sense of panic I think you do from that article. Yeah, they were a disappointment last year and they need to step it up this year. We all know that. I think you made it seem like they've taken a step back.

And unless I heard wrong this morning DT will play on Thursday[/quote]

I would just like to see Kelly practice for a couple of weeks w/out getting injured. Is that too much to ask? Since when is it so hard to just practice?

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[quote=skinsfan69;574463]I would just like to see Kelly practice for a couple of weeks w/out getting injured. Is that too much to ask? Since when is it so hard to just practice?[/quote]

Hasn't Kelly basically been a go at training camp? I know he sits out afternoons most or all of the time, but that is just precaution. I haven't heard that he has missed a lot of the scheduled practices.

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Rinehart. He'll adapt and be solid at RG.

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I went w/Rinehart because he's got a golden opportunity to start w/Thomas hurt. If he plays well in preseason the job might be his regardless of Thomas' health.

The two guys that I think will play best on a per play basis are Davis & Moore. I think both of those guys will make plays, they just won't be on the field a lot.

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I'm going with Rinehart as well. I can't see RT playing a full season without some kind of injury. Rinehart will step in and make it easy for the FO to release RT next offseason.

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[quote=skinsfan69;574461]we got NOTHING from these guys last year. NOTHING! i'd say that thomas and davis have the best chance since they'll probably be on the field the most.[/quote]

Didn't Thomas score against the Vagiants last season on a reverse? I wouldn't call that nothing.

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I voted for DT, but i dont know who we need worse, him or Rinehart...

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[quote=johno;574476]I voted for DT, but i dont know who we need worse, him or Rinehart...[/quote]If you can't block the 3-technique DT one-on-one, then you'll have problems keeping the QB upright to get DT the ball.

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Thanks for the poll Smoot. Nice add in. I chose Devin Thomas as well. Although it was tough between him and Rinehart. CBS Sports was reporting there are several in the Redskins organization that believe Rinehart will beat out Randy Thomas.

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[quote=SmootSmack;574459]I don't get the same sense of panic I think you do from that article. Yeah, they were a disappointment last year and they need to step it up this year. We all know that. I think you made it seem like they've taken a step back.

And unless I heard wrong this morning DT will play on Thursday[/quote]


I guess i get the same feeling as skins fan. I hate seeing these guys always missing practice. A guy like Clinton or Santana or another perennial starter and its ok. No red flags. But the fact that Devin is already missing time with his hammy gives me a real doubt as to weather or not he can go a full 16 games with no hammy issues. IE missing mutiple games in a row. Not to mention the time he is losing in camp getting his timing down with JC. It is not panic more a sense of doubting a guy who hasn't done much of anything. I want Devin to succeed. I haven't seen anything other than the Comments in that article from Zorn that make it seem as though he is uncertain if DT will play. these guys need reps

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;574491]Thanks for the poll Smoot. Nice add in. I chose Devin Thomas as well. Although it was tough between him and Rinehart. CBS Sports was reporting there are several in the Redskins organization that believe Rinehart will beat out Randy Thomas.[/quote]

Which I found interesting, because just a few months ago JLC (I think) had that famous article in the WaPo where he was saying how some in the organization thought Rinehart had a long way to go and everyone here was talking about how that was a classic example of how effed up our Front Office was, and what a horrible pick he was, and so on. And now we hear some think he might be good enough to start?

I didn't choose Kelly or Thomas (or Davis for that matter) because I get the sense they will all be relatively equal contributors and part of an already relatively crowded offense (which is a good thing I think). So I don't know that any one of them will stand out above the rest.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;574492]I guess i get the same feeling as skins fan. I hate seeing these guys always missing practice. A guy like Clinton or Santana or another perennial starter and its ok. No red flags. But the fact that Devin is already missing time with his hammy gives me a real doubt as to weather or not he can go a full 16 games with no hammy issues. IE missing mutiple games in a row. Not to mention the time he is losing in camp getting his timing down with JC. It is not panic more a sense of doubting a guy who hasn't done much of anything. I want Devin to succeed. I haven't seen anything other than the Comments in that article from Zorn that make it seem as though he is uncertain if DT will play. these guys need reps[/quote]

Fair points.

I don't have any link that says DT is playing on Thursday. But if I see one I'll pass it along. My understanding was that Portis, Haynesworth, Bridges, and Thomas are all out.

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[quote=SmootSmack;574495]Fair points.

I don't have any link that says DT is playing on Thursday. But if I see one I'll pass it along. My understanding was that Portis, Haynesworth, Bridges, and Thomas are all out.[/quote]

Are AH and CP more just being held out of the game or are they legit injuries? I haven't heard anything on CP and I know about AH knee injection.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;574500]Are AH and CP more just being held out of the game or are they legit injuries? I haven't heard anything on CP and I know about AH knee injection.[/quote]

Matt Terl's blog today made it sound like those two are good to go but won't play simply as a precaution.

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Davis and Cooley combine this year for 1,000 yds and 10 TDs. So that makes it Davis, even if 70% of that production is Cooley's.

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Second-year wide receivers Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly figure to be on the field a lot. The plan is for Thomas, who returned to practice after missing time because of a hamstring injury, to start at Z receiver, or flanker, ahead of Kelly. Top wideout Santana Moss, the X receiver, or split end, might sit out or play sparingly.

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/running-back-clinton-portis-an.html?wprss=redskinsinsider]Redskins Insider - Portis, R. Thomas Not Likely to Play[/url]

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I went with Devin Thomas, the boring pick. I just doubt Tryon will be on the field enough to make a huge impact, even if he is improving nicely. Davis will only have a huge impact if the Redskins go to a lot of 2-TE sets.

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Fred Davis will be the most productive of the 2008 Second Rounders, which is disappointing because he is the one the Skins probably need the least. But maybe the productive second tight end can help mitigate the lack of production from the receivers and also provide a viable red zone option. Davis showed the most improvement of the three at the end of last year, albeit as a blocker, and from all accounts he has been the most impressive of the three during the off-season/early pre-season.

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Thomas is the most likely , with kelly having the knee and Davis likely on the field the least . If all three provide some 1st downs and a few big plays , the sum of the three could prove vital for our success ! Hope Rinehart imrpoves and becomes a starter at some point , Tryon sounds good , and I believe K.Moore is going to make some plays for us ,,, we could end up having a good 08 draft class . Also looks like we will get some pressure from O-SAK-PO and even Jarmon, 09 class :)

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I do think that Thomas and Kelly will have similar looking catch and yardage totals because I feel their playing time will be split pretty evenly. I'd be surprised if Kelly wasn't a lot more valuable by more advanced stats such as catch rate.

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No doubt they can bounce back or i think show up, i think they all will contribute DT, MK and FD.

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[quote=SmootSmack;574505]Second-year wide receivers Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly figure to be on the field a lot. The plan is for Thomas, who returned to practice after missing time because of a hamstring injury, to start at Z receiver, or flanker, ahead of Kelly. Top wideout Santana Moss, the X receiver, or split end, might sit out or play sparingly.

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/jason-reid/running-back-clinton-portis-an.html?wprss=redskinsinsider"]Redskins Insider - Portis, R. Thomas Not Likely to Play[/URL][/quote]


Ok cool.. Let's hope for the best!! I really want to see these guys make plays. They have to get it going early so they build some confidence in themselves. And at the same time so would I. :) But I'm pretty sure my opion doesn't matter to much to them.