Top 3 Players the Redskins Cannot Afford to Lose If We Want To Make A Playoff Run
 

They are doing this on ESPN980 right now and I thought it was really interesting. Which players would devestate the team if they had a season ending injury. Chris Samuels, Albert Haynesworth, and London Fletcher are popular on the radio, but I don't agree with Haynesworth and Fletcher. I feel Blades would be adequate to replace Fletcher and we have enough depth on our DL, with Haynesworth gone, Orakpos presense could help provide a decent pass rush for us. Besides, last year we had a top defense without any pass-rush.

For those reasons, my list consists of 3 Offensive Players:

1. [U][B]Chris Samuels [/B][/U]- If he goes down, Heyer would have to slide to the Left where he got abused last eyar and we've got NO one to play RT. Which leads me to #2.
2. [B][U]Stephon Heyer [/U][/B]- Its a testement to our complete lack of quality OT depth that Heyer is one of the 3 most important players on our team, but he absolutely is. If Williams or Bridges is forced to play RT, our running game will disappear, Jason Campbell will be pressured, and we'll have a repeat of the last 8 games of 2008.
3. [B][U]Clinton Portis [/U][/B]- Yes, I understand we have Ladell Betts, but Clinton is the bread and butter of this team. A Portis/Betts RB tandem behind a healthy offensive line, and a (hopefully) much improved WR situation creates a offense that defenses have to respect. If we're forced to rely on a Betts/Cartwright combo, our running game (and hence our entire offense) will completely fall apart.

So that's my list, Whats yours?

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Funny out of the names getting thrown around JC is not mentioned.

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Yes, yes, thats just what we need. Lets use this thread to bash JC too.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;580128]They are doing this on ESPN980 right now and I thought it was really interesting. Which players would devestate the team if they had a season ending injury. Chris Samuels, Albert Haynesworth, and London Fletcher are popular on the radio, but I don't agree with Haynesworth and Fletcher. I feel Blades would be adequate to replace Fletcher and we have enough depth on our DL, with Haynesworth gone, Orakpos presense could help provide a decent pass rush for us. Besides, last year we had a top defense without any pass-rush.

For those reasons, my list consists of 3 Offensive Players:

1. [U][B]Chris Samuels [/B][/U]- If he goes down, Heyer would have to slide to the Left where he got abused last eyar and we've got NO one to play RT. Which leads me to #2.
2. [B][U]Stephon Heyer [/U][/B]- Its a testement to our complete lack of quality OT depth that Heyer is one of the 3 most important players on our team, but he absolutely is. If Williams or Bridges is forced to play RT, our running game will disappear, Jason Campbell will be pressured, and we'll have a repeat of the last 8 games of 2008.
3. [B][U]Clinton Portis [/U][/B]- Yes, I understand we have Ladell Betts, but Clinton is the bread and butter of this team. A Portis/Betts RB tandem behind a healthy offensive line, and a (hopefully) much improved WR situation creates a offense that defenses have to respect. If we're forced to rely on a Betts/Cartwright combo, our running game (and hence our entire offense) will completely fall apart.

So that's my list, Whats yours?[/quote]I like your list. I might switch one of the o-lineman to either Hall or Rogers.

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1. Portis (no faith in Betts).
2. LaRon (no faith anyone to cover the whole field like he can).
3. Samuels (if we lose him we lose a TE/WR just so we can help whoever is playing that spot).

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1) Samuels
2) Portis
3) Tie between Phat Al and London

I'm starting to think Landry is replaceable otherwise he'd be in the 3rd spot. He's not dominating out there as of yet...still a step or two behind making the big play and misjudging some of his angles and approach into the backfield.

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haha u beat me to it

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I'd hate to have to give Ryan Plackmeier another call so Hunter Smith better stay healthy as well

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[quote=firstdown;580131]Funny out of the names getting thrown around JC is not mentioned.[/quote]

JC is definitely the best QB we have on the roster, but I don't think he's even one of the top 10 players on the team. That, combined with the fact that Todd Collins is a more than capeable backup, and it won't matter who's under center if our line suffers injuries is keeping him off most people's lists.

For comparisons sake, I would also say that if fans did this for all 32 teams in the league, only about 10 of those teams fans would consistently include their teams' starting QB on this list.

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Samuels, Haynesworth, Fletcher

Honorable Mention - Landry

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Samuels. After that, I think there is sufficient depth to cover any player for a 2 game sitdown. We would have to plan differently but we still would be an effective team if any other play has to sit. AH if he goes out for the season, then the same could be said, but I think missing one or 2 games we can still survive.

I know the topic said 3, but I really believe, every position has a substitutable backup, some drop off yes, but record changing, I only think that is Samuels.

Ok, maybe Hunter the Punter, Like Smoot said, I don't wanna see the Plack attack again. thanks

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[quote=gibbsisgod;580136]Yes, yes, thats just what we need. Lets use this thread to bash JC too.[/quote]

Who said he getting bashed?

Portis, Haynesworth, Moss

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Samuels, like everyone said.. (Although I have to admit, I'm sort of mulling for Rabach as well.. I know.... I don't even like him either, but the fact is he makes the calls for the O-line men when it comes to blitz pick ups and such.. I'm not sure if Montgomery has sufficient amount of knowledge when it comes to blitz pick ups and such.. But I guess I will go ahead with Samuels because it's obvious choice, I guess)

Laron Landry, yes he didn't break out and become a special player but he's the reason why we didn't give up many long yardages last season.. His versatility is the key..

I'm going go ahead and say JC, yes he didn't do much lately.. But I believe this season will be different case..

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;580163]JC is definitely the best QB we have on the roster, but I don't think he's even one of the top 10 players on the team. That, combined with the fact that Todd Collins is a more than capeable backup, and it won't matter who's under center if our line suffers injuries is keeping him off most people's lists.

For comparisons sake, I would also say that if fans did this for all 32 teams in the league, only about 10 of those teams fans would consistently include their teams' starting QB on this list.[/quote]

I say more like 20 would name there QB when asking about 3 players not so maybe if you asking about one player then it might be more around 5 or so.

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[quote=Zerohero;580175]Who said he getting bashed?

Portis, Haynesworth, Moss[/quote]

we were picking 5 players, Moss would have been on my list. However, i've got a really good feeling about Kelly (and Mitchell to a much smaller extent). It would not surprise me at all if Kelly had a breakout year and was in pro-bowl consideration. I personally plan to pick him up (undrafted, of course) in my fantasy league.

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Samuels
Moss
Fletcher

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Hall, Samuels, Portis

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;580178]we were picking 5 players, Moss would have been on my list. However, i've got a really good feeling about Kelly (and Mitchell to a much smaller extent). It would not surprise me at all if Kelly had a breakout year and was in pro-bowl consideration. I personally plan to pick him up (undrafted, of course) in my fantasy league.[/quote]

Yeah as much as i would love to see the other wr's standout its still all on moss' shoulders.

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Portis
Samuels
Fletcher

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samuels, moss, fletcher, (haynesworth), (cooley).

yeah, i cheated. deal.

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Portis - without him we are useless on offense

Samuels - we need the pass protection bad

Haynesworth/Orakpo - our pash rush is anemic without either of these two

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Samuels - If you can't keep the QB upright or open holes for RBs everything else on offense is useless. The drop-off from Samuels to Heyer/Bridges is significant.

Haynesworth - Completely disruptive force requiring a double team. Makes Carter, Okarpo or any other blitzer more likely to get one-on-one. Without his presence we would go back to looking like last year with little pass rush and a bend-don't break D. With him the D can be aggressive and attacking. Pressure up front makes the secondary look a lot better.

J. Campbell - He goes down and our passing game turns into a Brunnell-esque one (with a less mobile QB). I'm not ready to turn over the keys to Chase / Colt either.

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Samuels, Fletcher, Portis

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1. Portis
2. Hall or Rodgers ( we lose either one and I don't see much depth at cb )
3. Samuels
4. Rabach
5. London

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Portis. Haynesworth. Samuels.

No running game puts the team square on the shoulders of JC and Zorn's passing offense, and I'm not so sure JC and the Receivers can put the Skins in the playoffs without a solid run game.

Without Haynesworth eating up 2 and 3 blockers, Orakpo and Carter will get zero pressure on opposing QBs, as the Skins D-Line has done in the past.

Samuels is the anchor of that offensive line. If he goes down, the ship is sure to follow.

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JC
Samuels
Portis
*Fletcher

*special consideration

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Samuels, Portis, Moss. At least everyone can agree on Samuels. Of course if by "lose" you mean for the season, well you can't stop that at 3 people.

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Samuels, Portis, Campbell.

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Samuels, Landry, Moss

I don't think you lose much from JC to Todd Collins to be honest, Collins has been anticipating WR breaks in his preseason action reminiscent of his starting stint with us in 2007.

Landry's speed allows for us to cover the field deep with one guy. You lose him you have to change the whole secondary's scheme.

Lose Santana Moss and you have no proven WR worth a crap. The offense would be paralyzed.

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[B]Samuels:[/B] If anyone has to replace him there will be a serious drop off.
[B]Haynesworth:[/B] With out him taking the double teams we are no better then last yr.
[B]Hall:[/B] Rogers has not lasted a full season. Everyone else is either not battle tested or would have to majorly step up.

[B]JC[/B] has Collins who is a bit of a drop off will do ok. He's proven to get us to the play offs.
[B]Portis[/B] has Betts and although he's technically not a #1 RB he has filled in before and did an ok job.
[B]Heyer[/B] has Bridges behind him and I believe MW will be decent if pressed into duty. We now have a bunch of decent WR's.
[B]Orakpo[/B] hopefully will have Wilson to relieve him during games and could fill in if he goes down.
[B]Fletcher[/B] has Blades.

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Hell, if any of our offensive Starters go down we are screwed. We have zero depth. The only place that I am confident on the offensive side of the ball is with JC and TC. TC has taken us to the playoffs before.

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Probably Samuels, Landry, and Campbell.

Though I'm tempted to throw in Heyer for Campbell once he establishes himself as a quality RT.

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[quote=Angry;580283]Hell, if any of our offensive Starters go down we are screwed. We have zero depth. The only place that I am confident on the offensive side of the ball is with JC and TC. TC has taken us to the playoffs before.[/quote]
You ever wonder how 2 people can look at the same team and see complete opposites. It really amazes me.

You say we have no depth; I say the only position we truly would be hurt at is LT. I imagine the truth lies somewhere in between. Name any position, and we have a player who has a) the potential to step up, and b) in most cases has at some point in the last season. Are some thinner, meaning we would see some drop off if Rodgers went out, and the scheme was shifted to account for that, yes, would it completely doom us; I just don't think so. But if we lose Rodgers and Hall, then does that mean we have no depth? I don't think so.

If we lose Samuels there is no scheme shift, no substitute player who would step right in and we continue on. Our line would be incredibly weaker. So we can't afford to lose him. every other position, either by true depth or scheme depth, I think we are a very solid team.

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Samuels is far and away #1 in my book, which is scary since they're already talking about his knee troubles.
Jason Campbell. I'm sorry, people can bash him all they want, but he is far and away the best quarterback on this team right now.
Albert Haynesworth. I have a feeling he'll end up missing a game or two (because he seems to every year), but I think this is the guy who will take this team from a good defense yardage wise, to a game changing defense...

I choose not to put Portis in there, because I think Betts as a starter is pretty good (excpet for the fumbles at the worst times), but Betts as the backup I'm not real high on.

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Samuels, Portis, Landry

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Samuels-Moss-Haynesworth
We need turnovers and pressure on the QB which we didn't have last year. AH gives us the best chance at those.

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C, Samuels
D. Dockery
R. Thomas

(in no particular order)

Offensive line health is the key to the season.

Betts, although a fumble-a-saurus, has filled in decently before and was a 1,000-yard back. The line was killing opponents that year. We have a lot of WR depth to compensate for a Portis loss.

Portis is one of the best backs in the NFL and my favorite current player, but if we lose the O-line, there goes our offense entirely...see last year for proof.

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1. Clinton Portis - Right now he is Mr. Redskin. The Redskins are as productive as Portis.
2. Chris Samuels - He is the Redskins best offensive lineman. Without him, the protection would fall apart and the running game would disappear.
3. London Fletcher - I picked Fletcher only because he is the quarterback of the defense. The defense is the strength of this team and they need his leadership. I'm looking for the defense to dominate in 2010 and lead the Skins into the playoffs.

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Samuels , either Hall/Rogers . As CRedskinsrules pointed out we have a number of guys who can/have played well . If AH missed a few games , we have CG/Monty who have both started . Any O-Line injuries could kill us , lets face it , most teams are screwed if ...... they lose ,,, QB , RB , best pass rusher or top cover corner . Lets hope we have the LEAST injuries this year , and ELI and ROMO bite the dust under heavy pressure from our D .

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1) Jason Campbell. Todd Collins is a statue with a cupcake arm, and Colt and Chase are barely NFL players right now, battling each other to avoid the practice squad.

2) Santana Moss. He goes down, and the next three guys on the depth chart are all #3s at this point. He's our most explosive offensive player and it's not even close. He's the only guy we have on offense who is a threat to take it to the house every time he touches the ball.

3) Chris Samuels. I feel like our O-line is super fragile right now, but he's the best player by far, and he watches Campbell's backside.

I wanted to pick Landry or Fletcher, but I feel like we're pretty stacked defensively, and really lacking offensively.