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Paintrain 08-29-2009 03:10 PM

Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
Coming into training camp most of us had 4 areas of main concern. Who was going to emerge at starting RT? How was our OL depth going to be? How will Jason Campbell develop? Will our 2nd year pass catchers (Kelly, Thomas, Davis) be healthy and productive? (Mods, please poll with these options)

I think we're all pretty universal in saying that Heyer has the RT job sewn up but is everyone comfortable with him for 16 games?

It's been tough to gauge the OL depth because M. Williams has been injured most of camp causing Bridges to play out of position and not really giving us a true look at players in their true positions.

We've seen bad Jason (1-7, 4 completions in 2 games) and good Jason (overall vs. NE) so far in the preseason. How's your comfort level with him?

I for one have been impressed with what I've seen out of Thomas & Kelly and with the addition of Mitchell I am good with our WR corps going into the season. For the first time in YEARS I am actually excited about our group.

Thoughts?

backrow 08-29-2009 03:22 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
[quote=Paintrain;581802]Coming into training camp most of us had 4 areas of main concern. 1. Who was going to emerge at starting RT? 2. How was our OL depth going to be? 3. How will Jason Campbell develop? 4. Will our 2nd year pass catchers (Kelly, Thomas, Davis) be healthy and productive? (Mods, please poll with these options)

I think we're all pretty universal in saying that Heyer has the RT job sewn up but is everyone comfortable with him for 16 games?

It's been tough to gauge the OL depth because M. Williams has been injured most of camp causing Bridges to play out of position and not really giving us a true look at players in their true positions.

We've seen bad Jason (1-7, 4 completions in 2 games) and good Jason (overall vs. NE) so far in the preseason. How's your comfort level with him?

I for one have been impressed with what I've seen out of Thomas & Kelly and with the addition of Mitchell I am good with our WR corps going into the season. For the first time in YEARS I am actually excited about our group.

Thoughts?[/quote]


I added the numbers for the questions to enable an easier answer.

1. Obviously Heyer

2. Suspect. Same as last year

3. If you add the long ball, then, possibly better, especially with the added WRs. I'm as comfortable as possible without a decent 2nd stringer behind him. I don't like TC, and CB and CD haven't taken the same control as say a
Garcia, or a Leftwich. To CB and CD's credit, they are younger, [B]much younger[/B], and stronger than TC!

4. Time will tell, but it seems Kelly has the 2nd or 3rd spot wrapped, Thomas the 4th spot, and Marko (not mentioned in your question part of your post) has the 5th spot. Marko may pass Thomas on the WR depth chart.

Edit: Sorry to post before you had the poll added! But I felt I needed to speak to all concerns.

I have as much concern for the Defense (not mentioned), however; because they have not shown they can stop the opposition and the fact that all of the attention was given to improvement during the off-season.

NYCskinfan82 08-29-2009 03:46 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
I'm a JC supporter so i never worried about his development. I was worried about the WR's, it's still early but it looks good it's the one thing you always heard DT say if one of them gets a catch they want to go out and get a better one.

GTripp0012 08-29-2009 04:03 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
I have to go with 2nd WR development, because I can't say that I had concerns anywhere else. Well, the interior line, perhaps, but that's going to rear it's ugly head now and again, and hopefully it won't be too much of a problem in the long run. But the second receivers have really been playing great: Marko Mitchell and Malcolm Kelly especially, but even Thomas had about as complete a three catch game as he's had thus far.

My concerns have moved on to the pass coverage units (obviously), but how about NO major injuries through a month of the preseason? What are the chances of that?

This has been one of the most injured teams in the NFL over the past 3 seasons, so if we head into New Jersey in two weeks with a clean injury report, it would be hard to not think the Redskins would be the favorite to win that game.

GusFrerotte 08-29-2009 04:11 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
Toss up because of the one game doesn't necessary cure all thing in the back of my mind. JC and the O line depth were the biggest concerns for me, but last night did a lot to lay any real worries to rest as long as the guys stay healthy. Have to agree that our secondary is going to be the "weak link" of the team, but e ven they seem to have improved over the last couple weeks.

Chico23231 08-29-2009 04:26 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
The 2nd team oline got tossed around in the second half last night. OLine Depth is our biggest concern right now. Reinhart, Montgomery, and Bridges seem to be decent but I think we need would like a solid back up tackle behind Samuels or Heyer. Bridges has some experience at RT, i think but not sure. Mike Williams right now is a cut in my book, he has been injured and in training camp his technique sucked from all accounts I read. We better keep both keep both those late pick LBs because if we cut one of them and Mike Williams then the FO f*cked up again. Heyer has looked good this training camp and preseason so Im really happy about that.

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 08-29-2009 04:54 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
I was just say Heyer because he is holding his own in pass protection and not half bad in run blocking. Of course I'm still not sold on Jason Campbell in this offense because it does not fit him. The second receiver still have to step up and I'm not talking about just practicing good but move it on the field. Offensive line depth s a big question mark as well since Colt could have been lost for the season from that hit of which was all Rhinehart's fault.

TheMalcolmConnection 08-29-2009 05:02 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
Nice poll. I think the WR development is looking pretty good right now. I actually thought Heyer did a great job in both pass blocking AND in the run game.

JLee9718 08-29-2009 05:07 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
I hope the offensive line problems and its depth got resolved with the free agent signings. But at WR, Marko Mitchell might end up as the #2 guy.

WaldSkins 08-29-2009 05:39 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
Well i was worried most with Jason Campbell entering camp. Not with Jason's overall play but, if he would make it through the preseason alive with our poor group of aging o-lineman. That seems to still be the biggest issue with this team.

Is it me or does the WR's this year seem like totally different players. Kelly, Thomas, and Davis are all showing strong preseasons. Marko is showing he's for real and has the skills to be the number 2 receiver on this team.

>>One of my biggest concerns entering camp is still showing it's ugly face-Secondary Depth. Behind Hall, Rogers, and Smoot there is really no one i feel comfortable with. An injury to any of these guys and our season could be over.

jsarno 08-29-2009 09:46 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
None of the above...Orakpo being anything of a force, and he is thus far. Hope it keeps up through the season...love to see him get defensive ROY this year!

Lotus 08-29-2009 10:08 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
I could not vote for the second year WR's because to me they are still too much of a concern. I think Kelly is really coming on and will contribute significantly this year. He looks good and I am high on him. But he still needs to work on his fade route, which could be his signature route. DT to me is still a wild card. He's been making better plays but still mixes in plenty of bonehead plays.

JC, on the other hand, looks much more comfortable than last year. He is making better and faster decisions and is getting the ball out faster. As much as he could in the "meaningless" preseason, he has put my concerns to rest.

MTK 08-29-2009 10:54 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
I went with the WRs. I think we've seen enough flashes where I'm pretty comfortable that they'll be able to contribute this season, and by year's end I think at least one of them will be playing a key role. Kelly and Thomas both showed some things last night.

GMScud 08-29-2009 11:23 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;581901]I went with the WRs. I think we've seen enough flashes where I'm pretty comfortable that they'll be able to contribute this season, and by year's end I think at least one of them will be playing a key role. Kelly and Thomas both showed some things last night.[/quote]

I agree. The O-line really concerns me. 3 of the 5 are getting up there in age, the RT is unproven, a few are coming off surgeries, and they are injury prone.

Zorn even admitted he pulled back the reins on the offense last year because he was scared for Jason's life (not a direct quote, but you get it) as a result of the banged up line. If these guys can't stay healthy, we're in deep ish.

53Fan 08-30-2009 01:20 AM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
I thought, and still do think Heyer will do a good job.
O-line depth is still a concern but may be getting better with Rinehart, Montgomery, Bridges and a couple of others.
I expected JC to be better in this offense than last year and still do.
My thoughts on the second year receivers involved a lot of hope considering Kelly's knees and DT's slow grasp of the pro game. I have a lot more confidence in these guys now. Including Fred Davis. They have shown a marked improvement over last year. It's the second year receivers for me.

Beemnseven 08-30-2009 09:16 AM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
[quote=GMScud;581905]I agree. The O-line really concerns me. 3 of the 5 are getting up there in age, the RT is unproven, a few are coming off surgeries, and they are injury prone.

[B]Zorn even admitted he pulled back the reins on the offense last year because he was scared for Jason's life (not a direct quote, but you get it) as a result of the banged up line.[/B] If these guys can't stay healthy, we're in deep ish.[/quote]

The only thing that bothers me about this line of thinking is that you can sometimes get the opposing defense to pull back on a fierce rush by throwing it deep once in awhile. And there are still methods to get the ball downfield when your O-line is hurting by doing roll-outs.

Oh well. Zorn seems to be reinvigorated and clearly is attempting to get big chunks of yards through the air at this point. That's a good thing. But since it's virtually impossible to keep our front five completely healthy for 16 games, you just wonder if we'll be in the same position come November or December.

cochise 08-30-2009 10:56 AM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
The WR problem appears to be resolved except with the ranking outisde of Moss. I would go at thise point with: Moss #1 Kelly#2 Mitchell#3 Thomas#4 ARE#5.

hail_2_da_skins 08-31-2009 10:49 AM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
[quote=cochise;581991]The WR problem appears to be resolved except with the ranking outisde of Moss. I would go at thise point with: Moss #1 Kelly#2 Mitchell#3 Thomas#4 ARE#5.[/quote]

Antwaan Randle El #5? That's a little harsh. I think the young receivers are looking better but I'm not convinced they are ready to go up against the NFC East. Here is my ranking of the receivers:
1. Santana Moss
2. Marques Mitchell
3. Antwaan Randle El
4. Devin Thomas
5. Malcolm Kelly (Could be #2 if he knew how to run a fade route)

hail_2_da_skins 08-31-2009 10:50 AM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
2. Marko Mitchell

SmootSmack 08-31-2009 10:50 AM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
[quote=hail_2_da_skins;582362]Antwaan Randle El #5? That's a little harsh. I think the young receivers are looking better but I'm not convinced they are ready to go up against the NFC East. Here is my ranking of the receivers:
1. Santana Moss
2. Marques Mitchell
3. Antwaan Randle El
4. Devin Thomas
5. Malcolm Kelly (Could be #2 if he knew how to run a fade route)[/quote]

Marques Mitchell?

hail_2_da_skins 08-31-2009 10:52 AM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;582364]Marques Mitchell?[/quote]

Typing too fast.

2. Marko Mitchell

freddyg12 08-31-2009 11:06 AM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
It sounds counterintuitive, but I went w/o line depth, since the question is "most resolved" so the question is relative. By depth, I assume 2nd stringers, and those guys seem like legit 2nd team guys; bridges, montgomery, rinehart. As a unit they might not be that good, but I think each one of them will be fine filling in w/the starters if needed.

That said, O line is still the biggest question facing this team. They've improved the line relatively, but I don't know how good the starters can be. I expect them to have serious problems on 9/13 & in a handful of games JC will be scrambling for his life.

30gut 09-03-2009 05:52 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
[quote=Paintrain;581802]I think we're all pretty universal in saying that Heyer has the RT job sewn up but is everyone comfortable with him for 16 games? [/quote]
I had faith in Heyer @ RT from the start, and i think he provides good depth for Samuels@ LT.

[quote]It's been tough to gauge the OL depth because M. Williams has been injured most of camp causing Bridges to play out of position and not really giving us a true look at players in their true positions.[/quote]

The depth is more of a concern.
Rhinehart has played as much with the starting OL as Randy Thomas.
And i think has shown that he can contribute at RG/LG.
Heyer can play at LT, Will Montgomery has looked good at Center.
Mike Williams has been hurt and Bridges has looked spotty, although to be fair he has played out of position.
Depth at RT and G are a concern.


[quote]We've seen bad Jason (1-7, 4 completions in 2 games) and good Jason (overall vs. NE) so far in the preseason. How's your comfort level with him?[/quote]

I think JC is gonna have a good season.
How good is up to OL, WRs and playcalling.

[quote]I for one have been impressed with what I've seen out of Thomas & Kelly and with the addition of Mitchell I am good with our WR corps going into the season. For the first time in YEARS I am actually excited about our group. [/quote]

Devin and Malcolm are the X factors this year.
Their contribution and playmaking will determine how explosive the offense can become.

saden1 09-03-2009 06:31 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
Went with WR in large part due to what I've seen from Devin Thomas. He put on some muscles, seems faster and his rout running has improved a lot from last year. Kelly has improved but I'm still not sold he has it all down and together yet. I feel comfortable with Fred Davis' development too. He's going to take a lot of pressure off of Cooley from the looks of it. Two TE sets will really be fearsome in our offense.

Trample the Elderly 09-03-2009 06:35 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
My concerns will not be resolved until half way through the season.

saden1 09-03-2009 06:58 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;583678]My concerns will not be resolved until half way through the season.[/quote]

...and mine won't be until after we win the SB.

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JLee9718 09-07-2009 04:24 PM

Re: Poll: Which of your pre-camp concerns has been most resolved?
 
The offensive line might be stronger than I thought it would be at the beginning of the preseason.


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