Ramsey to start - Ravens Game
 

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Yes, I know that Pro Football Talk is just talk, but.....

Ramsey may just provide a spark if he starts.

that'd be interesting... i'd kinda like to see it, but the ravens aren't exactly the best place to try out a new QB...

that'd be really surprising. Brunell has stopped turning it over, and his mobility has been needed on the field with all the blitzing. as much as i love Ramsey, i don't know if this is wise. if Ramsey does turn out to be playing over a healthy Brunell, its because Gibbs wants to show the NFL what his receivers can do down field.

I don't think it really says that Ramsey would start the Ravens game does it?

I'm sure Gibbs watched how Kyle Boller was manhandled and Ramsey wouldn't last a half with Ray Lewis breathing down his neck. Brunell is doing just fine as the QB. No turnovers, no sacks and no fumbles. Better play calling would help his numbers.

I agree with the fact that at most Brunell should get one more outing to prove his effectiveness. Personally, I am a fan of Patrick Ramsey and think that he should soon be given the opportunity to start.

If any of you believe this crap you must be smoking some serious $hit. Gibbs has praising Brunell all year, and quite frankly I don't think Brunell has done anything to lose his job.

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I don't think it really says that Ramsey would start the Ravens game does it?[/QUOTE]


No, but who's going to read a post of mine that has a less contentious tag line?

[QUOTE=skinsfan0201]I agree with the fact that at most Brunell should get one more outing to prove his effectiveness. Personally, I am a fan of Patrick Ramsey and think that he should soon be given the opportunity to start.[/QUOTE]

The opportunity to start is not going to change the playcalling as much as you might think. Every team in the NFL knows how strong Ramsey's arm is and they also know how immobile he is. Ramsey INT's were picked off primarily down field because he watches the receiver all the way down the field and just waits. Brunell's movement in and out of the pocket has allowed the offense to move the ball to get 13 first downs in the Browns game. The play calling in the redzone has to be more aggressive. Brunell is not throwing INTs in the endzone. I haven't been a big fan of any of the QB's for the Redskins since Brad Johnson and find it useless to watch change after change and still no playoff berth. I predict that Ramsey will be traded within two years and another veteran QB will replace Brunell within that same time. Neither QB is doing what we all expected they would be doing.

That's funny RR!

Next time make it more exciting-"Brunell punches fist through wall after Ramsey strolls through locker room with "Who's Starting Now, Bitch?" t-shirt"

If they're going to blitz use the run and screen-passes effectivly to neutralize it. If they blitz, make them pay. Immobile quarterbacks such as Peyton Manning, Vinnie Testaverde, and Matt Hasselbeck have been struggling. These guys can run when absolutely necessary, but so can Ramsey.

I wouldn't be suprised to see Ramsey get a shot. He made huge mistakes in the redzone vs the Giants, but he moved our team down the field very well. If he can get some snaps with the first unit I think he could certainly aid our offense.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]The opportunity to start is not going to change the playcalling as much as you might think. Every team in the NFL knows how strong Ramsey's arm is and they also know how immobile he is. Ramsey INT's were picked off primarily down field because he watches the receiver all the way down the field and just waits. Brunell's movement in and out of the pocket has allowed the offense to move the ball to get 13 first downs in the Browns game. The play calling in the redzone has to be more aggressive. Brunell is not throwing INTs in the endzone.[/QUOTE]

Agree with everything you said

Sunra
 

(Just a little bitter, sorry) Let's go ahead and cash in the winning lottery ticket especially since Ramsey never got the proper opportunity to showcase his talents under a truely professional staff. I like and respect Spurrier, but Ramsey was primarily worried about being pummeled because of the schemes that he was supposed to operate under.

For certain you have been pleased with all of Brunell's tremendous feats thus far, including overthowing receivers and having difficulty to see players wide open on the field. I like Brunell as a person and will support him if he proves himself, but Gibbs likes Ramsey and has given him the opportunity to be the future quarterback of this team. If Brunell starts this weekend, I sincerely hope that he provides the coaches, the team and the fans enough confidence as a veteran starter. After Brunell finishes his commitement to the Redskins, as a starter or a backup, Patrick Ramsey will be well inclined to lead the way for many years to come.

Take a moment to read today's Washington Post article, "The Redskins Keep Plodding Along."' Several players are commenting about Brunell's performance as a leader and passer for the team. They all point to Brunell's ability to move the ball with a no huddle offense and him calling the plays. Can you believe it? He called the plays in a no huddle offense. They all concur that Brunell was effective and able to prevent the defense from rotating and making a big play. Brunell compeleted five passes in a row. Gardner mentioned that is was working in the first half, but he guessed the Coach wanted to run the ball more. 167 yds. for Gardner last week and 122yds for Coles this week is because of Brunell' ball maintenance. Last point, look at the ball possession for the Redskins and you will see that with the right play calling this team can win the next five games with no problem.

Regardless, does Brunell give the Redskins the spark they need to win? I remember early in last season when Ramsey was able to bring the Redskins all the way back from a 17 point deficiet. I don't see the same type of passion in Brunell, but I give the Redskins players credit for rallying around their quarterback. Thanks, I subscribe to the Washington Post.

im satisfied with Brunell's play, the only thing lacking is his accuracy on long passes. he needs to lead his receivers where only they can get to the ball and in stride. the safeties are all up, we need to make em PAY.

I think accuracy, arm strength, and even leadership seem to be lacking.

[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Rumored on [url]http://www.profootballtalk.com/[/url]

Yes, I know that Pro Football Talk is just talk, but.....

Ramsey may just provide a spark if he starts.[/QUOTE]


Ramsey is not going to start Gibbs say Brunell is the starter!

:coach:

I think that this rumor is completely false. I think that there are maybe some people out there who think that Ramsey is the needed spark to ignite the offense, but honestly Brunnel is doing a better job than most people seem to be giving him credit for.
Brunnel has shown that he can make nice passes for first downs and I have seen him throw very nice, crisp passes to receivers, but there have been a fair number of times where there might be a drop. Brunnel's errant looking passes are usually just passes to throw it away when the pressure is on and I think that when the pressure is on and you don't see any receiver open down or upfield that you kind of have to throw that ball away to avoid the costly mistake.
Many times penalties have really played a big part in killing drives. For example, a series of first downs get stifled by a few untimely penalties and then all of a sudden we are in a third and long situation. That kind of gives the defense a heads up on where the ball will be headed.
As far as the comment about lack of accuracy, arm strength, and leadership, I have to say that there may be a basis for that from what is seen on the television, but if you look a little further I think that you'll see that Brunnel has been extremely accurate in a lot of different situations and that the plays are just messed up by some mental errors by the wideouts. Also, I saw Brunnel gun a couple of passes, especially in the Dallas game and I think that showed me that he still has a fair amount of mustard left in that left arm of his. Finally, in terms of leadership, I don't think that there are many players that have what Brunnel has. He has kept calm even through hard situations and helped as an example for players who might otherwise fret in times of difficulty (like after a fumble for instance). He led a great no huddle offense early in the Cleveland game and I think that he has just about won the hearts of our wideouts corp. And as Vince Lombardi said, "men respond to leadership in a most remarkable way way once you have won his heart, he will follow you anywhere."

HTTR

yeah, thats kind of a bogus rumor mill, but i'm still not entirely sure either QB is much better than the other... brunell is fine, but still prefers 5 yard passes, which sucks :(

I believe this rumor is false. but I hope its not

RR you should be raked over hot coals for posting something from PFT

Matty, I say we give RR the camp scrub avatar for a week

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Matty, I say we give RR the camp scrub avatar for a week[/QUOTE]
seriously

[QUOTE=Daseal]I think accuracy, arm strength, and even leadership seem to be lacking.[/QUOTE]
pretty harsh daseal, what does the guy have left? LOL

Rediculous rumor. PFT is a joke. If Gibbs was thinking about changing QB's he would come out and say it. It would not leek out on some 3rd rate gossip website. In that same article PFT accused and cursed out Chris Mortinson of stealing their scoop regarding some lockerroom fight and reporting it on Monday Night Countdown. If Chris Mortinson even reads PFT, let alone passes along what he reads to ESPN viewers then he should be fired imediately.

No way Ramsey start's this week unless Brunell is hurt, as much as I want Ramsey in there, Brunell in all fairness need's more time to prove he can't do the job.

As far as this nonesense about Ramsey not being mobile, he's probable more mobile in the pocket than Brunell, and he can out run LB's, I think to many people just assume he can't move, because he is a true pocket passer, and he doesn't run all over the field like Vick, but he seem's to know when to run, in his short stint as a starter, he had some big run's for us, Jet game last year, Giant game this year, come to mind.

locking on to a reciever running downfield, most inexpierenced QB's will do it, until they become familiar, and trust where their reciever's will be, Ramsey can win games, brunell will try not to lose them, give me the gun slinger, but one thing Gibb's did his first time around is he is very loyal to his starter's, Brunell will have to become very obvious to everyone that he can't get it done, before Gibb's pull's him, and I don't think that has happened yet, reason? As Gibb's has stated this is a team problem, not 1 individual's, and until he feel's he has straightened out the team as a whole, I think Brunell is his guy.

This is from PFT? Ok. Why does anyone even look at that site? It's all false rumors just to stir things up...

Matt, SS, we need a special doghouse avatar. I'm more than happy to be the first recipient.

How about a picture of Spurrier blowing confused bubbles?

Personally, I'm reluctant to use an avatar of Spurrier. Because we all know what's going to happen then. Our main man Daseal is going to do everything he can to get in the doghouse and have his Spurrier avatar.

you know what sucks the most? knowing somewhere inside, Spurrier is smiling right now...

I'm thinking of banning the word 'Spurrier' on this board, what do ya think?

Personally, I'd like it if there was some rule as to when to use the term "SS" Sometimes it's referring to me, other times it's referring to Spurrier.

Half the time I think I'm reading some scathing post about me and then I realize it's about Spurrier. Confuses the heck out of me

that is the lamest bunch of arabian bull$hit i have ever heard or read.i think mortenstein has been eating at the espn table with ole fatboy lenny pasta.