Smoke Signals: The heat is rising on Jim Zorn
 

How close did Dan Snyder come to firing Jim Zorn? That and more in the latest edition of Smoke Signals. [URL="http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/09/smoke-signals-the-heat-is-rising-on-jim-zorn.html"]Read it now.[/URL]

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Anything and everything I have read in the past week or two has been nothing but negative which I guess at this point is the easy thing to do. Can't anyone find a positive story to write or do I have to just stop reading anything on the skins. Football is a sport to be injoyed and it seems like more people want to drown in misery then enjoying the game. Last time I looked we are 1/1 like alot of good to great teams and we are only two games into the freaking season.

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Good points.....good points.....let me think.....

Oh, DS is actually making money not losing money on the Skins. Thats a good point.
Umm, AA is back, Mason is still on the team, they can move the ball between the 20's, the field goal kicker is doing well, we play the Lions this Sun. who have lost 19 straight.

Hows that? :)

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[quote=firstdown;594154]Anything and everything I have read in the past week or two has been nothing but negative which I guess at this point is the easy thing to do. Can't anyone find a positive story to write or do I have to just stop reading anything on the skins. Football is a sport to be injoyed and it seems like more people want to drown in misery then enjoying the game. Last time I looked we are 1/1 like alot of good to great teams and we are only two games into the freaking season.[/quote]

Exactly.

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[quote=firstdown;594154]Anything and everything I have read in the past week or two has been nothing but negative which I guess at this point is the easy thing to do. Can't anyone find a positive story to write or do I have to just stop reading anything on the skins. Football is a sport to be injoyed and it seems like more people want to drown in misery then enjoying the game. Last time I looked we are 1/1 like alot of good to great teams and we are only two games into the freaking season.[/quote]

I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from visiting here, but honestly these boards will drive you nuts. I find myself giving up on threads after 20 posts or so.. The over analysis is insane, and most of the time it slants to the negative. Just watch anytime someone tries to start a "positive" thread, it either gets overrun by the negative nellies or it gets a quarter of the responses of the other threads.

You've gotta take everything with a grain of salt. People in general love to crab and complain. I see it everywhere on message boards I frequent. I like to visit boards from some of my favorite bands, and with the way the discussions go you would think nobody even likes the band. Everyone rips new songs, albums, what they wear, what they say, ugh it's ridiculous.

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[quote=SBXVII;594160]Good points.....good points.....let me think.....

Oh, DS is actually making money not losing money on the Skins. Thats a good point.
Umm, AA is back, Mason is still on the team, they can move the ball between the 20's, the field goal kicker is doing well, we play the Lions this Sun. who have lost 19 straight.

Hows that? :)[/quote]

That's good.

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guys lets get serious this team stinks the play calling and the quarterback are one of the worst in the league. and lets not go crazy about campbell this week,we played the freakin rams they stink too.

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[quote=SBXVII;594160]Good points.....good points.....let me think.....

Oh, DS is actually making money not losing money on the Skins. Thats a good point.
Umm, AA is back, Mason is still on the team, they can move the ball between the 20's, the field goal kicker is doing well, we play the Lions this Sun. who have lost 19 straight.

Hows that? :)[/quote]

Don't forget that Phat Al is doing his job and Hunter seems to fit in nicely with Suisham and ST.

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[quote=Mattyk72;594179]I wouldn't want to discourage anyone from visiting here, but honestly these boards will drive you nuts. I find myself giving up on threads after 20 posts or so.. The over analysis is insane, and most of the time it slants to the negative. Just watch anytime someone tries to start a "positive" thread, it either gets overrun by the negative nellies or it gets a quarter of the responses of the other threads.

You've gotta take everything with a grain of salt. People in general love to crab and complain. I see it everywhere on message boards I frequent. I like to visit boards from some of my favorite bands, and with the way the discussions go you would think nobody even likes the band. Everyone rips new songs, albums, what they wear, what they say, ugh it's ridiculous.[/quote]

You're absolutely right about everything you just said. I think I'm going to be more conscious of my own negativity from now on.

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Didn't feel like starting a new thread so I'll just add this here:

Is Clinton Portis ready to throw in the towel on Jim Zorn? [url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/clinton_portis_we_all_believe.html]Read It[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;594200]Didn't feel like starting a new thread so I'll just add this here:

Is Clinton Portis ready to throw in the towel on Jim Zorn? [url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/clinton_portis_we_all_believe.html]Read It[/url][/quote]

Thanks for posting that SS. Good stuff to hear.

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[quote=SmootSmack;594200]Didn't feel like starting a new thread so I'll just add this here:

Is Clinton Portis ready to throw in the towel on Jim Zorn? [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/clinton_portis_we_all_believe.html"]Read It[/URL][/quote]

lol love the misleading headline

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[quote=SmootSmack;594200]Didn't feel like starting a new thread so I'll just add this here:

Is Clinton Portis ready to throw in the towel on Jim Zorn? [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/clinton_portis_we_all_believe.html"]Read It[/URL][/quote]Definitely think that Portis should be the last person in the world to be critical of Zorn's playcalling last week. ;) Glad he realizes this.

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ARE had his best punt return in long time :), amazing how well you do when you catch on the run and run north/south.

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[quote]Instead, Portis said, it's the execution. One time, for example, he said that Santana Moss was open on a deep route, but Will Montgomery was "overpowered" at the line. Portis didn't fault Montgomery, and said he was blocking the right man, but that ruined the deep chance.[/quote]Oh man, Campbell was super pissed on this play. It looks like he directed his angst at Heyer though, who didn't do a great job himself, but Campbell thought he had something.

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[quote=bigant;594193]guys lets get serious this team stinks the play calling and the [B]quarterback are one of the worst in the league[/B]. and lets not go crazy about campbell this week,we played the freakin rams they stink too.[/quote]

Based on what?

He's completing 69% of his throws right now, has a healthy 7.4 yards per attempt, only 1 INT, and is 2 TD drops away from having a rating in the mid 90s.

What else do you want from the guy at this point?

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[quote=Mattyk72;594217]Based on what?

He's completing 69% of his throws right now, has a healthy 7.4 yards per attempt, only 1 INT, and is 2 TD drops away from having a rating in the mid 90s.

What else do you want from the guy at this point?[/quote]

You should know by now that even if Campbell leads us to a Super Bowl while curing cancer, reviving dead grandparents and making it rain chocolate some people will still complain.
[B][I]
Cancer? C'mon, why didn't Campbell cure diabetes?

I hated my grandparents, now I've got to visit zombies every holiday!

My car is sticky from the chocolate rain.

Campbell sucks![/I][/B]

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The note on Heyer's struggles catch my eye...that was w/ Randy Thomas covering for him in a variety of situations. Now Heyer will be the vet on the right side of the line...it's a little worrisome.

Onto the matter of coaching chaneover...man I'm just less for it the more I think about things. Realistically I don't see Snyder having the opportunity to bring in a better replacement than someone already on the staff. Again Shanahan is a money man and would come here for a bag of loot but he wasn't anything special this decade, and that was in a piss-poor AFC division (apart of San Diego). I think it's naive to think Snyder can really lure a great coach here. Letting Zorn go so Buges or Blache takeover is one thing...probably just puts the ball in JC's hands more and I'm all for it. But a regime change means, well, just more change almost for the sake of change.

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[quote=GTripp0012;594215]Oh man, Campbell was super pissed on this play. It looks like he directed his angst at Heyer though, who didn't do a great job himself, but Campbell thought he had something.[/quote]

I noticed that. Who says JC lacks fire? I think he has really become a vocal leader on this team. Good for him!

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[quote=Paintrain;594223]You should know by now that even if Campbell leads us to a Super Bowl while curing cancer, reviving dead grandparents and making it rain chocolate some people will still complain.
[B][I]
Cancer? C'mon, why didn't Campbell cure diabetes?

I hated my grandparents, now I've got to visit zombies every holiday!

My car is sticky from the chocolate rain.

Campbell sucks![/I][/B][/quote]

LOL. This Is true...This is true!!!

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[quote=Paintrain;594223][I][B]Cancer? C'mon, why didn't Campbell cure diabetes? [/B][/I][/quote]

Clearly Campbell has some 'in' with a Pharmaco that is developing a treatment for diabetes, so naturally he's making it rain chocolate.

/sarc

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Winning (big) will cure everything and if, as Portis says, they are just a tiny adjustment away from it all working we'll see that against the Lions this Sunday.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=Mattyk72;594217]Based on what?

He's completing 69% of his throws right now, has a healthy 7.4 yards per attempt, only 1 INT, and is 2 TD drops away from having a rating in the mid 90s.

What else do you want from the guy at this point?[/quote]

I totally agree with you. JC has not played that bad. He has made 2 or 3 mistakes here and there but every QB makes mistakes. Even Manning and Peyton and I am not comparing JC to them. When receivers stop dropping TD passes or passes in general then you can draw whatever conclusion you like. This was happening for the past tow years if you can recall. But we have to have patience. Honestly Campbell is better than [I]some[/I] of the QBs we have had here in the last 10 years as far as potential. He just doesn't get a fair chance. He has a season and almost a half worth of games.

QBs have a short leash here because us as fans sometimes have unrealitisc expectations. We can't go to the Superbowl every year. MOST Qbs need time to develop. Those that come in and are gangbusters from the beginning is really an anomaly. Most QBs have stability in one system for years. Not a different OC every year.

The season is young. People need to allow him to make mistakes and not be [B]overly[/B] critical that is the only way he will learn and reach his true potential. I am not a JC apologist. Just being realistic. Defense and running game lend alot to the development of a QB. As well as stabilty. So take that into consideration when you compare JC to Flacco, Ryan or Sanchez. On another that note. Sanchez has played well. But he hasn't neccessarily had to put the team on his back. Ryan had a top ranked running game and a sloid defense. Flacco has an awesome defense and a decent running game. When you have these things its easier to win as a QB because everything is not on your shoulders.

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Do you know what cures all negativity? A solid win!

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[quote=jsarno;594407]Do you know what cures all negativity? A solid win![/quote]

Exactly :food-smil