Mike Williams Starting vs Carolina?
 

I just got a text message update from 980 that states he is going to start over Reinhardt today?

WTF? Isnt he a tackle?

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I'm trying to find a link to prove this, as it seems odd to say the least...

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I HOPE this is an indicator of how........remarkable his progress has been and NOT that Rinehart has blown out some....essential body part

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If his progress has been that remarkable, I'd hope he'd be lining up at RT rather than RG.

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[quote=Gmanc711;605172]I just got a text message update from 980 that states he is going to start over Reinhardt today?

WTF? [B]Isnt he a tackle[/B]?[/quote]

Well thats what they claim him to be...? I guess RHINO is losing his confidence again, if this happens to be true.

But he is a big slab of meat, maybe mouth piece can run through that?

This could be interesting.

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Well if Renhardt couldnt play for some reason, shouldnt, ya know? the backup gaurd play?


I'm not one to spout of crazy crap... but part of me just thinks Snyderatto wants Williams to play so they can try to prove they were right in keeping him or some crap like that...

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[quote=Gmanc711;605180]Well if Renhardt couldnt play for some reason, shouldnt, ya know? the backup gaurd play?


I'm not one to spout of crazy crap... [B]but part of me just thinks Snyderatto wants Williams to play so they can try to prove they were right in keeping him or some crap like that...[/quote]

[/B]Then play him at Right tackle

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[quote=Gmanc711;605180]Well if Renhardt couldnt play for some reason, shouldnt, ya know? the backup gaurd play?


I'm not one to spout of crazy crap... but part of me just thinks Snyderatto wants Williams to play so they can try to prove they were right in keeping him or some crap like that...[/quote]

Or maybe he's proven that he's the best option at right guard right now. Scary, but could be true. If any of this is true.

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[quote=Gmanc711;605180]Well if Renhardt couldnt play for some reason, shouldnt, ya know? the backup gaurd play?


[B]I'm not one to spout of crazy crap... but part of me just thinks Snyderatto wants Williams to play so they can try to prove they were right in keeping him or some crap like that...[/B][/quote]

Maybe they will pull CP on the 4th and ones and line Mike up at RB....and see if he can get a yard?

Snyderatto are always right, IN THEIR MINDS.......

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Hasn't Reinhardt played well on the runs? I thought they were having "success" running to the right

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Wow...I hope this isn't true.

We still need a link if this is going elaborated on.

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Another reason why we should draft a O-lineman next year

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PFT Reports:

Williams getting first start since 2005
Posted by Tom Curran on October 11, 2009 11:03 AM ET

Mike Williams, the fourth overall pick in the 2002 draft who wound up out of the league the past three seasons, is in the starting lineup today for the Washington Redskins.

ESPN 980 reports that Williams will start at right guard in place of Chad Rinehart when the Redskins take on Carolina today.

So it's another positive step for Williams, whose weight was well north of 400 pounds as recently as February.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;605195]PFT Reports:

Williams getting first start since 2005
Posted by Tom Curran on October 11, 2009 11:03 AM ET

Mike Williams, the fourth overall pick in the 2002 draft who wound up out of the league the past three seasons, is in the starting lineup today for the Washington Redskins.

ESPN 980 reports that Williams will start at right guard in place of Chad Rinehart when the Redskins take on Carolina today.

So it's another positive step for Williams, whose weight was well north of 400 pounds as recently as February.[/quote]

Ok...commence hating on this move in 3...2...1...

WTF!!!

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;605194]Another reason why we should draft a O-lineman next year[/quote]

Another reason we SHOULD HAVE drafted O-lineman the last two years.

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Just my personal feelings....I wonder if they saw something Chad was doing or not doing even though we had a full week of how well he performed and shined on the O-line. We even heard how they were able to run to the right most of the Tampa game. Now this.

I presume the putting MW in the Guard position is to get him a little regular season game play where he really can't screw up a whole lot then maybe next week move him to RT. For whatever reason I thought I kept hearing how Heyer was having difficulty at RT still. Maybe they will move Heyer to Guard after moving MW to RT. Just a thought.

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[quote=skinny tee;605197]another reason we should have drafted o-lineman the last two years.[/quote]

true!!!!!

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[quote=SBXVII;605198]Just my personal feelings....I wonder if they saw something Chad was doing or not doing even though we had a full week of how well he performed and shined on the O-line. We even heard how they were able to run to the right most of the Tampa game. Now this.

I presume the putting MW in the Guard position is to get him a little regular season game play where he really can't screw up a whole lot then maybe next week move him to RT. For whatever reason I thought I kept hearing how Heyer was having difficulty at RT still. Maybe they will move Heyer to Guard after moving MW to RT. Just a thought.[/quote]

Since this is a surprise move do you think that our other surprise move (Sherman Smith) was responsible for this change?

Perhaps this is what the second set of eyes saw.

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Questions we run to the left mostly so doesn't the RG pull to the left? Is Williams going to be successful as a pulling guard? Did he practice this week with first team offense as a RG?

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If this is true, I would really, really like to know WHY?

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[quote=Skinny Tee;605200]Since this is a surprise move do you think that our other surprise move (Sherman Smith) was responsible for this change?

Perhaps this is what the second set of eyes saw.[/quote]
Lewis*

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Everyone freaking out.. yeah I wanna see Rine consistently, but I doubt that this is the end of the world, we'll see.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;605194]Another reason why we should draft a O-lineman next year[/quote]

The entire 2010 draft will comprise o-linemen only.

It had been said from the start of the reguilar season that some wanted to see Williams replace Hyer at some point, but this move is surprising.

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Could this be all at once and indictment and exoneration of Vinny? Bust of a draft pick but uncovering a diamond in the rough. Nah, but it doesn't bode well for Rhino to get benched after 2 starts. If this was coming, I wonder if Williams was running with the ones all week in practice.

** UPDATE ** From Washington Times 360:
[B][I]Apparently, Williams took all the first-team reps during practice this week. The media isn't allowed to watch any team drills after training camp ends which is how those of us, who aren't paid by the team , missed this scoop.

Rinehart, a third-round pick in 2008, had never played before the Detroit game on Sept. 27 but seemed to play decently in his two starts in place of Randy Thomas, who's out for the year with a torn triceps.

Williams, 29, weighed 415 pounds when the Redskins signed him on a flyer on April 24 with the intention of him pushing Stephon Heyer at the right tackle, held by Jon Jansen for most of the previous decade.

Chosen fourth in the 2002 draft by Buffalo, Williams lost about 80 pounds, but he was unable to stay on the field during training camp because of nagging injuries. He hasn't played a regular season game since Nov. 27, 2005.[/I][/B]

BTW, Rhino is INACTIVE today. Wow.

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This could be fun to watch, maybe the ground pounding up the gut running we need, MW may be able to push people back instead of watching our line sit in JC lap. GO SKINS!!!

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;605189]Hasn't Reinhardt played well on the runs? I thought they were having "success" running to the right[/quote]

Yeah, according to GTripp's offensive breakdown, we officially run better to the right now, largely because of Rinehart. Apparently the Skins and Tripp aren't on the same page. Or maybe it's a pass blocking issue. Either way, to have a guy start one week and benched the next for a dude playing out of position who hasn't started a game in 3 or 4 years is not positive. In fact, I just got a text from WashPost saying Rinehart is inactive. WTF? Is he so one dimensional that if he's not starting at RG he is of no value whatsoever?

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[quote=tryfuhl;605204]Lewis*[/quote]

Thanks...to many Sherman's to keep track : )

I also have a proclivity to address people with different names : )

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Talk about a head scratcher!!! I'd like to hear the insiders around here weigh in on this one. I mean Rinehart was doing very well against the run. Obviously he would struggle in pass-pro for a while but that's expected.

...the funny thing is a started wondering about Mike Williams this week! We heard so much progress in pre-season and then nothing once the line-up was set. I really, really hope he is a great big awesome surprise today!!!

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I'll take 'unexpected personal matter" as a good excuse for this last minute switch.

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[quote=GMScud;605218][B]Yeah, according to GTripp's offensive breakdown, we officially run better to the right now, largely because of Rinehart. Apparently the Skins and Tripp aren't on the same page. Or maybe it's a pass blocking issue. [/B]Either way, to have a guy start one week and benched the next for a dude playing out of position who hasn't started a game in 3 or 4 years is not positive. In fact, I just got a text from WashPost saying Rinehart is inactive. WTF? Is he so one dimensional that if he's not starting at RG he is of no value whatsoever?[/quote]

Yeah...if he was exceptional at run blocking we could use that because Carolina has the worst run denfense in the league right now. We should expect the SKins to run a ton against them.

Why would we switch him out if he was capable against the run?

To say the least I believe it's an indictment against Reinhart to go from starter to inactive in a flash...strange things abrewin' around Skinsland.

And to announce that big move 2 hours before gametime???...strange stuff.

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Inactive is interesting

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So Will Montgomery, Batiste are the only to backups active?

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Rinehart has an injured shoulder and didn't practice much this week. Big Mike took his practice reps and, apparently, they liked what they saw enough to let Rhino sit this week to heal.

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[quote=cpayne5;605250]Rinehart has an injured shoulder and didn't practice much this week. Big Mike took his practice reps and, apparently, they liked what they saw enough to let Rhino sit this week to heal.[/quote]

Why are we just now hearing about the shoulder?...Did it take place within the last day or two?

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[quote=Skinny Tee;605254]Why are we just now hearing about the shoulder?...Did it take place within the last day or two?[/quote]
I'm going to guess during the TB game since Williams has taken the practice reps all week.

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[quote=tryfuhl;605256]I'm going to guess during the TB game since Williams has taken the practice reps all week.[/quote]

Oh, right...Thanks...I didn't hear any injury report on him after the game.

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Just like everyone else, I'm surprised.. And I'm hoping the shoulder injury is the fact why Rhino isn't playing.. If it is not the case, then Rhino probably would be like us - not knowing why he's not starting anymore..

It seems like to this days, the coaches are not communicating with players :doh:

edit: here's the link; [URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/rinehart-out-mike-williams-in.html"]Redskins Insider - Rinehart Out, Mike Williams In (with Inactives)[/URL]

Mitchell is inactivate, as well?

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[quote=cpayne5;605250]Rinehart has an injured shoulder and didn't practice much this week. Big Mike took his practice reps and, apparently, they liked what they saw enough to let Rhino sit this week to heal.[/quote]

Thanks. Good to know there is a legitimate reason for this. I thought Rhino played pretty well last week.

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This news is discouraging. Wasn't CH's strength his run blocking?

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You mean CR SGG? He was playing well and it's discouraging to have someone come in and play out of position who hasn't played in years.