Who for GM
 

From all the reading I am doing here and from all the sports pundits, it is my understanding that we "should" hire a GM first. Assuming that Danny follows this logic (unlikely), who are the top 5 GMs that are available AND are likely to the take the job????

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Tony Dungy

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Anyone who tries to make this kind of list has to make assumptions about which GM candidates would demand what kind of autonomy before they took the job. That is what Parcells demanded in Dallas - - and actually got it for a short time - - and the lack of autonomy that crept into the team from above is why he packed it in and left.


If you think the word on "onerous ownership oversight" here in DC has not made its way around the league, you are kidding yourself.


Established "football guys" are NOT going to come in and live in a second-guessing enviornment. They don't need that; they can get jobs elsewhere. That is why the Raiders don't have top notch football people knocking down their doors to work there. Ditto the Cowboys. AND ditto the Redskins...


The way this will work out positively is for Danny Boy to find a young, upcoming guy who does not have "the reputation" around the league yet but really has the background to excel as a GM. Sort of like the GM equivalent of hiring a young assistant coach for the first time who becomes a really good head coach - - sort of like Vince Lombardi at Green Bay.


Who are the guys that might make it onto Danny Boy's radar screen? I have no idea at all because - - try as I might - - I have never been able to get myself to think the way he seems to think when he makes hiring decisions.


I will toss out one name of one guy who might be ready to move up the totem pole in the league and who is not a household name that can just go to about any team in the league if he wanted to:


Jon Sandusky: Pro Personnel Director for the Eagles.

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Well, you're probably looking at people who aren't currently GMs. Guys like Eric DeCosta, Reggie McKenzie, Bobby DePaul and my favorite Jimmy Raye III

[url=http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/1/5/709325/getting-to-know-a-gm-jimmy]Getting to Know a GM: Jimmy Raye - Arrowhead Pride[/url]

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Matty the thread you started a few days ago has been hijacked.

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[quote=SmootSmack;614058]Well, you're probably looking at people who aren't currently GMs. Guys like Eric DeCosta, Reggie McKenzie, Bobby DePaul and my favorite Jimmy Raye III

[URL="http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/1/5/709325/getting-to-know-a-gm-jimmy"]Getting to Know a GM: Jimmy*Raye - Arrowhead Pride[/URL][/quote]

Can't argue w/ the Chargers talent.

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[quote=HoosForCooley;614055]Tony Dungy[/quote]

Not a GM next.

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[quote=SmootSmack;614058]Well, you're probably looking at people who aren't currently GMs. Guys like Eric DeCosta, Reggie McKenzie, Bobby DePaul and my favorite Jimmy Raye III

[URL="http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/1/5/709325/getting-to-know-a-gm-jimmy"]Getting to Know a GM: Jimmy*Raye - Arrowhead Pride[/URL][/quote]

I guess he's not a bad choice. or Chris Polian.

[url=http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/1/2/707208/getting-to-know-a-gm-chris]Getting to Know a GM: Chris Polian - Arrowhead Pride[/url]

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[quote=SBXVII;614086]I guess he's not a bad choice. or Chris Polian.

[url=http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/1/2/707208/getting-to-know-a-gm-chris]Getting to Know a GM: Chris*Polian - Arrowhead Pride[/url][/quote]

Ditto on that one.

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[quote=SBXVII;614079]Not a GM next.[/quote]

I actually agree with you, but I think it would be by his decision. I think he has a great eye for talent. He basically won two Super Bowls(Set Gruden up for one). He also brings a winners mentality that the Redskins need. You associate winner with Indy. Players respect and listen to him. I would just like to see it but it will not happen. I would like to see him involved with the team one way or another just to change our mentality.

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Wow, I Googled "NFL football GM's" and clicked on the one from Wiki and it listed all the GM for each team.....funny that it has Gibbs as the GM of the Skins. ?????

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Boone pickins

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Bobby Bouche

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[quote=HoosForCooley;614055]Tony Dungy[/quote]

that would be by dream come true...I think more than anyone Dungy would bring instant credibility and I would put all my faith in him to turn this mess around.

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I've been throwing the name of Chris Polian around in other threads. So i'm sticking by my choice.

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I think that the job should go to me and I would be willing to accept it as long as my demands are met.

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Eric DeCosta Ravens

Brian Gaines Miami

Charley Casserly

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Why does anyone think he is going to hire a GM? What could possibly make us think that?

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^Uh.....Oh yeah.....2-4. :)

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Why not bring back Charley Casserly. He did great work with us, minus Shuler, but it happens.

Granted, I don't think Danny Boy will be willing to bring him back on the bus.

Round and Round we go people.

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[quote=Angry;614158]I think that the job should go to me and I would be willing to accept it as long as my demands are met.[/quote]

Which are?

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[quote=HoosForCooley;614090]I actually agree with you, but I think it would be by his decision. I think he has a great eye for talent. He basically won two Super Bowls(Set Gruden up for one). He also brings a winners mentality that the Redskins need. You associate winner with Indy. Players respect and listen to him. I would just like to see it but it will not happen. I would like to see him involved with the team one way or another just to change our mentality.[/quote]

Except he had nothing to do with either at the GM level. Bill Polian built the Colts teams, and Dungy was not the GM in Tampa. He had success as a coach, but he has never shown he has GM ability. I would probably lean toward Chris Polian as well. Does not matter though, Danny has no capacity to learn from any mistake because he never thinks he is wrong.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;614178]Which are?[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]1) Fire Vinny[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]2) Snyder gives me all decisions making abilities with the exception of his Madden Franchise. I'm sure that he turns the salary cap off and the Skins are awesome.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]3) I cannot be terminated or over ruled in any decision until after my 5th season.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]4) No more suing season ticket holders.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]5) Access to training camp is free again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]6) First beer is free for all fans attending the game as long as they are wearing officially licensed Redskins Apparrell[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]7) I get a 5 member cheerleading squad in my luxury box.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]8) I get to pick which 5.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]9) My wife is banned from my luxury box. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]10) I have a personal body guard to protect me from my wife.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR]

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Hire Dexter Manley.

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Jimmy johnson!

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Why not shoot for an assistant with one of the best organizations out there. Don't the Pats have an assistant GM or Asst Pres of football Ops? They've been building depth for years. And I'm not sure about the rules but I don't think they can stop you from interviewing someone for a promotion.

...But then again, an assistant at the pats to top dog at the Redskins might just be a DEmotion.

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How about Bruce Allen?

[quote]Bruce Allen is the former General Manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of the National Football League from 2004 to 2008.[1] Prior to his stint with the Buccaneers, he was a Senior Executive with the Oakland Raiders from 1996 to 2003.[/quote]

I believe the Raiders went to a Super Bowl during this period, and the Buccaneers were not bad during his stint there.

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[I]Reposted from my other thread:[/I] I've been lookin around online and have come up with these 2 guys. Both are young, up-and-coming execs with the Steelers. I'd love to see us build up some stability like the Steelers have through the draft and smart free agent picks. Both these guys were in the running for the KC job (thats where I pulled this from):

[I]1. Ron Hughes (College Scouting Director - Pittsburgh Steelers)

He was the former V.P. Personnel Director of the Detroit Lions and was hired by the Steelers to handle the college scouting duties in 2002. He spent 18 years in Detroit and was credited for helping the Lions compete in the 90’s when the team had Barry Sanders and Herman Moore.

Over the last seven years Hughes has been primarily in charge of building the Steelers drafts and was one of the only people in the organization who championed the cause to move up in the first round of the 2003 draft to grab USC safety Troy Polamalu. The team that made that swap was none other then the Kansas City Chiefs, who used that pick to draft Penn State running back Larry Johnson.

2. Doug Whaley (Pro Personnel Director - Pittsburgh Steelers)

He has worked closely with Hughes, and that might be one of the better personnel teams in all of the NFL. Whaley has spent 11 seasons with the Steelers and according to someone close to the team who spoke with Warpaint Illustrated, he’d like to move up the NFL food chain. However, a year ago he forwarded an e-mail that didn’t exactly warm the hearts of the Steelers and the Commissioners office - it contained immoral photos. So that has been something that has held up his efforts towards obtaining a higher position in the NFL.[/I]

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[quote=SkinFanatic;618771][I]Reposted from my other thread:[/I] I've been lookin around online and have come up with these 2 guys. Both are young, up-and-coming execs with the Steelers. I'd love to see us build up some stability like the Steelers have through the draft and smart free agent picks. Both these guys were in the running for the KC job (thats where I pulled this from):

[I]1. Ron Hughes (College Scouting Director - Pittsburgh Steelers)

He was the former V.P. Personnel Director of the Detroit Lions and was hired by the Steelers to handle the college scouting duties in 2002. He spent 18 years in Detroit and was credited for helping the Lions compete in the 90’s when the team had Barry Sanders and Herman Moore.

Over the last seven years Hughes has been primarily in charge of building the Steelers drafts and was one of the only people in the organization who championed the cause to move up in the first round of the 2003 draft to grab USC safety Troy Polamalu. The team that made that swap was none other then the Kansas City Chiefs, who used that pick to draft Penn State running back Larry Johnson.

2. Doug Whaley (Pro Personnel Director - Pittsburgh Steelers)

He has worked closely with Hughes, and that might be one of the better personnel teams in all of the NFL. Whaley has spent 11 seasons with the Steelers and according to someone close to the team who spoke with Warpaint Illustrated, he’d like to move up the NFL food chain. However, a year ago he forwarded an e-mail that didn’t exactly warm the hearts of the Steelers and the Commissioners office - it contained immoral photos. So that has been something that has held up his efforts towards obtaining a higher position in the NFL.[/I][/quote]

Ron Hughes is 66 years old. I wouldn't call him a young, up and comer.

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Hire "Angry"
I like his ideas....especially the Beer thing for skins fans

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Me. I´m cheap. I rock. What else do you need?

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[quote=TheGuyFromOverThere;618793]Me. I´m cheap. I rock. What else do you need?[/quote]
A stateside mailing address.

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[quote=TheGuyFromOverThere;618793]Me. I´m cheap. I rock. What else do you need?[/quote]

I can dig it.

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[quote=TheGuyFromOverThere;618793]Me. I´m cheap. I rock. What else do you need?[/quote]You couldn't possibly do a worse job than Cerrato has in neglecting O-line depth. You're hired!

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[quote=angry;614185][color=black][font=verdana]1) fire vinny[/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana]2) snyder gives me all decisions making abilities with the exception of his madden franchise. I'm sure that he turns the salary cap off and the skins are awesome.[/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana]3) i cannot be terminated or over ruled in any decision until after my 5th season.[/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana]4) no more suing season ticket holders.[/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana]5) access to training camp is free again.[/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana]6) first beer is free for all fans attending the game as long as they are wearing officially licensed redskins apparrell[/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana]7) [b]i get a 5 member cheerleading squad in my luxury box.[/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana]8) i get to pick which 5.[/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana]9) my wife is banned from my luxury box. [/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana]10) i have a personal body guard to protect me from my wife[/b].[/font][/color]
[color=black][font=verdana][/font][/color][/quote]

lmmfao!!!!!!!

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[quote=munny;614164]Why does anyone think he is going to hire a GM? What could possibly make us think that?[/quote]

I'm with you Munny. There really are no clear indications that this is a topic inside the Redskins organization, it's just a lot of wishful thinking among fans. I feel like new GM talk is like starving men in a desert talking about what food they'd like to be eating, or orphans talking about what eccentric billionaire is going to miraculously adopt them.

I mean, I understand why people talk about it, but to talk about it like it's going to happen is to some extant masochistic.

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[quote=SmootSmack;618773]Ron Hughes is 66 years old. I wouldn't call him a young, up and comer.[/quote]

You think we need a young guy for GM, i do like the thought of someone from the steelers though that has to be one of the best run organiztions in the nfl, that said i would love to see dick lebeau come in as gm, he might be a little bit older but i bet he could beat the $ outta have the punk asses we have on our team, and would never back down from ds, and smootsmack what say you about brain kelly for head coach i'd like a college hc or get a cordinator some one in the leauge though not anyone who got fired for losing even though i do like gruden

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I worry about college coaches making the transition to the NFL. I think the Fun N Gun is still burned in people's brains enough to not try something like that again.

Jon Gruden would be a good coach. Players play to him and he definatley has the experience. Plus he's not old in coach years. I think Jon is 48 or 49 years old. Young enough to be here for a while and build a good team.

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[quote=mlmdub130;618809]You think we need a young guy for GM, i do like the thought of someone from the steelers though that has to be one of the best run organiztions in the nfl, that said i would love to see dick lebeau come in as gm, he might be a little bit older but i bet he could beat the $ outta have the punk asses we have on our team, and would never back down from ds, and smootsmack what say you about brain kelly for head coach i'd like a college hc or get a cordinator some one in the leauge though not anyone who got fired for losing even though i do like gruden[/quote]

A young guy would help because he would be here for a while (ideally), but I was saying more so because SkinFanatic called him a young, up and comer. And I was just pointing out that he's not really.

There's no reason to believe Lebeau would ever be a good GM.

A guy like Brian Kelly could succeed but he needs experienced people around him. I don't buy that a college coach can't succeed in the NFL but they need to be surrounded by NFL people. It's like someone from outside the Beltway being President. Of course they can succeed, but they need people with experience on the inside to help them through

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[quote=rbanerjee23;614123]that would be by dream come true...I think more than anyone Dungy would bring instant credibility and I would put all my faith in him to turn this mess around.[/quote]


Ah........ no. Dungy was a coach, a damn good one, but not a GM. Gibbs is A HOF coach and is the closest thing we have had to a GM since Casserly. He didn't do the greatest job. HOF coach doesn't equal great GM.