Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

and Lavar's interception against the Panthers turned around the season?

Is there a CHANCE that could happen with this team????

P.S. I miss Marty!!!!

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

Your time came and went three weeks ago my friend. :benched:

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;616986]Your time came and went three weeks ago my friend. :benched:[/quote]

why is that? Similar thread?

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote]
Is there a CHANCE that could happen with this team????

[/quote]

There is a chance of that happening only if the defense starts scoring 2 touchdowns a game to compliment the 10 or so points the offense will generate.

So basically, no.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=maroonandblack30;616989]why is that? Similar thread?[/quote]

The horse is down man. Shoot the poor GD thing and put it out of its misery.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=maroonandblack30;616979]and Lavar's interception against the Panthers turned around the season?

Is there a CHANCE that could happen with this team????

P.S. I miss Marty!!!![/quote]

[IMG]http://site.despair.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/hope.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

We're going to rip off 9 straight wins and win the division at 11-5.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=Lotus;617034]We're going to rip off 9 straight wins and win the division at 11-5.[/quote]

:laughing-

If Hattiesburg MS wasn't so far away, I'd come by and fire that s**t up with ya!

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=maroonandblack30;616979]and Lavar's interception against the Panthers turned around the season?

Is there a CHANCE that could happen with this team????

P.S. I miss Marty!!!![/quote]

No, there is no chance. C'mon. This is an entirely different scenario. In 2001, we employed brand-new offensive and defensive schemes, struggled mightily in the implementation of both through the first four games, and then began to settle in (the 5th game was lost to the Cowboys courtesy of that late Stephen Davis fumble). By week 6, the team was up to speed with the new regime and played competitively through the remainder of the year.

The only adjustments this team has to make are to the losses of three absolutely key opening day offensive starters. Aside from those adjustments, which the team is showing itself incapable of accomplishing, there is little justification for believing in a post-bye "eureka" moment in this offensive system, which has failed to produce a 20 point game in . . . how long has it been?

2009 will not go the way of 2001. Sorry.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

At this point I just want to see individual players improve in their performance. EVERY single player should consider themselves auditioning for next season, regardless of FO or Coaching changes.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;617039]:laughing-

If Hattiesburg MS wasn't so far away, I'd come by and fire that s**t up with ya![/quote]

If I were smoking something then I could not have done the math. :)

I'm just trying to stay positive. Football is supposed to be fun.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=Lotus;617052]If I were smoking something then I could not have done the math. :)

I'm just trying to stay positive. Football is supposed to be fun.[/quote]

Yeah, I'm there too.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

The Redskins just freed up my Sunday afternoons for the rest of the year. There is so much I can do with 3 more hours in the week now, that I use to waste on this team. Where is that Honey Do list?

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

I don't know I guess I could go for a hit of crack.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;617099]I don't know I guess I could go for a hit of crack.[/quote]

Dude, this is still a respectable fanbase. We smoke freebase.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

Another key distinction between 2001 and 2009:

[INDENT][INDENT]Martin Edward Schottenheimer[/INDENT][/INDENT]

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=scowan;617060]The Redskins just freed up my Sunday afternoons for the rest of the year. There is so much I can do with 3 more hours in the week now, that I use to waste on this team. Where is that Honey Do list?[/quote]

Well I won't stop watching ft ball in general, just out skins!! I will sit back and enjoy my Sunday ticket the rest of the season. Shit I would rather be at work than watching that bs every wk

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

I don't see any miracle turnaround in the cards. For anyone that does... stop dreaming.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

The chances of this team going to the playoffs,
are about as high as me winning 100 million dollars tomorrow lol.. 3-13 with the 4 th pick

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=maroonandblack30;616979]and Lavar's interception against the Panthers turned around the season?

Is there a CHANCE that could happen with this team????

P.S. I miss Marty!!!![/quote]

Problem is, we all scratched our heads as to why we started 0-5 that year...we are now a little surprised at how we managed 2 wins this year. We are losing our next 5 games hands down...did you happen to take a gander at the schedule?

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;617216]The chances of this team going to the playoffs,
are about as high as me winning 100 million dollars tomorrow lol.. [b]3-13 with the 4 th pick[/b][/quote]

Sounds about right...I'm thinking 2nd or 3rd pick though. Don't forget we lost to the chiefs, and they will be in the mix. I only see the Rams / Bucs / and maybe Cleveland worse than us...and the Bucs and Browns could pull a lucky few out, unlike us. The rams should be awarded the #1 pick right now.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;617133]Well I won't stop watching ft ball in general, just out skins!! I will sit back and enjoy my Sunday ticket the rest of the season. Shit I would rather be at work than watching that bs every wk[/quote]

Skinsfan, I won't stop watching football either, I'll just start watching teams that know how to play, like the Colts or the Saints. I watched the Saints beat up the Giants a couple of weeks back and that was a lot of fun. Much better than the Skins/Chiefs game that same week. And my Sunday was much more pleasant.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=scowan;617060]The Redskins just freed up my Sunday afternoons for the rest of the year. There is so much I can do with 3 more hours in the week now, that I use to waste on this team. Where is that Honey Do list?[/quote]


hahaha that was funny. I might as well do the same.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

My man above said it best. Marty is a HOF coach, had a plan, and had a solid group of guys that stayed together and started to believe. On top of that they had pride. We have a bunch of bums on offense that just don the jersey every Sunday/Monday to get paid in my humble opinion, with the exception of Cooley of course. No plan, no real coach, and no real O line or to be honest not much in terms of skilled position guys to go 8-8. I have a better chance of having a 3 some with the Girls Next Door than us pulling off the miracle.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=jsarno;617237]Problem is, we all scratched our heads as to why we started 0-5 that year...we are now a little surprised at how we managed 2 wins this year. We are losing our next 5 games hands down...did you happen to take a gander at the schedule?[/quote]


If Lewis can get the offense a bit more up to snuff than on MNF we could pull off an upset of the Falcons. Falcons didn't look too good last weekend or the weekend before. It is a long shot, but possible.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=jsarno;617241]Sounds about right...I'm thinking 2nd or 3rd pick though. Don't forget we lost to the chiefs, and they will be in the mix. I only see the Rams / Bucs / and maybe Cleveland worse than us...and the Bucs and Browns could pull a lucky few out, unlike us. The rams should be awarded the #1 pick right now.[/quote]

You left out the Lions and the Titans.

There are lots of teams eyeing the bottom of the barrel this season.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;617912][b]My man above said it best. Marty is a HOF coach[/b], had a plan, and had a solid group of guys that stayed together and started to believe. On top of that they had pride. We have a bunch of bums on offense that just don the jersey every Sunday/Monday to get paid in my humble opinion, with the exception of Cooley of course. No plan, no real coach, and no real O line or to be honest not much in terms of skilled position guys to go 8-8. I have a better chance of having a 3 some with the Girls Next Door than us pulling off the miracle.[/quote]

Well, no offense to you or your "man", but he's not of HOF caliber. Sure, his regular season stats are HOF caliber, but his postseason performance is what lost him jobs...in fact, he's one of, if not THE worst postseason coach EVER. And that is saying a lot. He's only 5-13 in the playoffs, that's a .278 record folks. For anyone with 10 or more appearances, only Steve Owen is worse at 2-8. To me, what makes you a HOF coach is not how well your team does during the regular season (and Marty had some KILLER talent over the years) it's getting them to "the next level". We often talk about QB's if they don't win it all, we can't consider them one of the best ever...well, why does the same not apply to coaches? He's never even won a conference championship. From 94-2006, the man didn't win a playoff game, and he had amazing teams in 95, 97, 04, and worst of all 06. How can you explain his ineptitude in the playoffs when his regular season was so great? Of his 21 years, he came in first or second in his division 16 times (including 13 in row). Only came in worse than 3rd place 1 time! So how is it he couldn't win anything significant, and couldn't even make it to a super bowl???

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;617121]Dude, this is still a respectable fanbase. We smoke freebase.[/quote]

You're right. Sorry I don't know what got into me.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;617914]If Lewis can get the offense a bit more up to snuff than on MNF we could pull off an upset of the Falcons. Falcons didn't look too good last weekend or the weekend before. It is a long shot, but possible.[/quote]

I love the enthusiasm, I really do...but only see this team winning 1 more game all season.
Here's the remaining schedule:
Atlanta...L
Denver...L
Dallas...L
Eagles...L
Saints...L
Raiders...W
Giants...L
Dallas...L
Chargers...L

That's a 3-13 season folks unless we can somehow manage a miracle on offense.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=scowan;617060]The Redskins just freed up my Sunday afternoons for the rest of the year. There is so much I can do with 3 more hours in the week now, that I use to waste on this team. Where is that Honey Do list?[/quote]


You can always "do" the honey!

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;617921]You left out the Lions and the Titans.

There are lots of teams eyeing the bottom of the barrel this season.[/quote]

The lions are better than we are...they can muster 3 wins with their schedule and they have the tie breaker on us.
The titans...you are right there...don't know why they are so awful this year. I have confidence that Jeff Fischer will turn it around and they will win 4 or so. I certainly could be wrong about that though.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=jsarno;617946]The lions are better than we are...they can muster 3 wins with their schedule and they have the tie breaker on us.
The titans...you are right there...don't know why they are so awful this year. I have confidence that Jeff Fischer will turn it around and they will win 4 or so. I certainly could be wrong about that though.[/quote]


Don't count on it Jay with the Lions. Thing is Stafford is still not 100%, and Johnson is still going to be out for at least another week or two. Only games that are winnable are the Rams and Browns and I will not be surprised if the Rams take them this weekend. The Titans can turn it around, but I highly doubt they will. That team is too loaded to be playing with such a piss poor record.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=jsarno;617942]Well, no offense to you or your "man", but he's not of HOF caliber. Sure, his regular season stats are HOF caliber, but his postseason performance is what lost him jobs...in fact, he's one of, if not THE worst postseason coach EVER. And that is saying a lot. He's only 5-13 in the playoffs, that's a .278 record folks. For anyone with 10 or more appearances, only Steve Owen is worse at 2-8. To me, what makes you a HOF coach is not how well your team does during the regular season (and Marty had some KILLER talent over the years) it's getting them to "the next level". We often talk about QB's if they don't win it all, we can't consider them one of the best ever...well, why does the same not apply to coaches? He's never even won a conference championship. From 94-2006, the man didn't win a playoff game, and he had amazing teams in 95, 97, 04, and worst of all 06. How can you explain his ineptitude in the playoffs when his regular season was so great? Of his 21 years, he came in first or second in his division 16 times (including 13 in row). Only came in worse than 3rd place 1 time! So how is it he couldn't win anything significant, and couldn't even make it to a super bowl???[/quote]


Dude didn't get a SB, but he's been to the playoffs way more than Norv, Spurrier, or Zorn for that matter. Hell he has more playoff victories than all the NFC coaches combined(excluding Holmgren maybe).

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;617950]Don't count on it Jay with the Lions. Thing is Stafford is still not 100%, and Johnson is still going to be out for at least another week or two. Only games that are winnable are the Rams and Browns and I will not be surprised if the Rams take them this weekend. The Titans can turn it around, but I highly doubt they will. That team is too loaded to be playing with such a piss poor record.[/quote]

I see them beating the Rams...I haven't seen any team worse than the Rams except maybe the Bucs waaaay back in the day. The rams are not winning again all season.
You certainly make a point, but keep in mind, if they beat the Rams and the Browns (which is highly likely) they will have the same amount of wins as I am predicting we will have (and we could lose to the raiders if we continue to play like this and lose all our talented players to injury). They have the tie breaker on us.
Still, we are getting a LOCK of top 5 pick. I still say 3rd pick...but I will go as far down as 5th.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;617953]Dude didn't get a SB, but he's been to the playoffs way more than Norv, Spurrier, or Zorn for that matter. [b]Hell he has more playoff victories than all the NFC coaches combined[/b](excluding Holmgren maybe).[/quote]

Ummm what?
Coughlin - 8 wins
Fox - 5 wins
McCarthy - 1 win
Mora - 1 win
Payton - 1 win
Reid - 10 wins
L. Smith - 2 wins
Whisenhunt - 3 wins

That's 31 combined wins...vs 5 for marty.

ps- Holmgren no longer coaches...just an FYI.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

If you are looking for a positive role model of a season I would say the Ravens Superbowl year would be it. Tony Banks incapable of producing a touchdown....they turn to veteran Trent Dilfer who manages their offense. The Ravens defense was legend that year and to be honest I think we have a playoff defense but they would need to start dominating teams and scoring points.

It could happen........but not with JC.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=Lotus;617034]We're going to rip off 9 straight wins and win the division at 11-5.[/quote]

[I]COUGH, COUGH, [/I]yep, that's about how I see it. [I]COUGH, COUGH.[/I]

What's the saying...puff, puff, pass....:Smoker:

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

Marty built solid teams in his day, maybe we should hire him as the GM.

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=SBXVII;618046][I]COUGH, COUGH, [/I]yep, that's about how I see it. [I]COUGH, COUGH.[/I]

What's the saying...puff, puff, pass....:Smoker:[/quote]

Yeah man, thats that good $hit right there Cough, cough. :Smoker:
Anybody got any cool ranch Doritos,funyuns or how bout some pretzels?

Re: Remember in 2001 when the Skins were 0-5???
 

[quote=DBUCHANON101;618049]Marty built solid teams in his day, maybe we should hire him as the GM.[/quote]

I'll be honest I laughed at Marty when he was with KC. I thought they would be a better team with out him. They did worse when he left.

He eventually came to the Skins and I was somewhat excited, then learned about how he was over working the players and they had a meeting to complain to him and he said he would go a little lighter on them. I assumed after he went 8-8 he would get another year to see what he could do with the team....then all the crap about him having VC fired and wanting more authority in the front office fell in line with DS letting him go.

Marty goes to San Diego and that team rocks off a few good yrs with him. Winning seasons. I don't care how many stats you show or point out that he can't win the big one....if you don't have a winning season you can't even have a chance at the dance. 2 yrs out of 12+ yrs we have been afforded the chance to, with a winning season, play in the post season. Marty is proven to have winning seasons. He's proven he can get into the post season. At this point I'd be happy with atleast that opportunity vs. what we have been having.

"If" DS is honest in saying he and Marty are good friends now and talk all the time then he should honestly explore this option. Speak with MS about taking the GM job and bring his son from the Jets to be HC. Just my opinion. You can't win with out decent talent and MS has proven he knows how to pick talent.

My personal feeling is it won't happen though. I get the feeling DS would not have enough balls to contact MS and speak with him about this cause that would make DS look like he was wrong in letting him go. Better that DS looks good then to admit one might have made a mistake. Ownership 101.