Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome
 

I don't completely agree with the article (The CP part) but here it is:
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-wornoutwelcomes102909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns]Chiefs' Johnson, others have worn out welcome - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

I think Portis has lost a step but I think he'd be doing a lot better if we had a better oline. I believe that the way the oline is playing makes him look worst than he really is.

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What did Quinn to do piss off Mangina?

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what about trading Quinn for Portis?

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For the benefit of himself and the team, he needs to be on the South end of a....broom come January

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[quote=Mattyk72;618257]What did Quinn to do piss off Mangina?[/quote]


Nice, it's not often that you can work the word "mangina" into a conversation.

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[quote=Lotus;618268]what about trading Quinn for Portis?[/quote]

A couple of months ago I would have said no way, but now....something to think about.

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Clinton still has it...he's just not seeing too many holes to burst through with our god awful line. I still like CP, he can stay.

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[quote=SmootSmack;618282]A couple of months ago I would have said no way, but now....something to think about.[/quote]

I'd do it. Quinn's young enough, probably still has a ton of potential and could use a change of scenery, and he won't break the bank. And we'll get rid of Portis before the wheels completely fall off and unload what's becoming a yearly renewed contract.

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[quote=saden1;618291]Clinton still has it...he's just not seeing too many holes to burst through with our god awful line. I still like CP, he can stay.[/quote]

I think that's precisely why we should trade him - he still has it. Let's start moving guys out like the Pats do. They're usually a year or two ahead of the player reaching their decline. Portis still has some trade value and I think we can make a move or two.

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To tell you the truth, I wouldnt mind seeing the skins trade Portis for Merriman straight up. Isn't he up for FA this offseason???? Easy pickins for D. Snyder there........

Then, go ahead and replace Orakpo with Merriman, and let Orakpo stay at defensive end, his natural kick some ass position. Damn, just thinking about it, this could do absolutely nothing but strengthen the hell out of our already vicious front seven. Let Orakpo get this season under his belt, helping out and refining his speed and agility. Then bring in the young and very talented Merriman, who should carry along with him a chip on his shoulder the size of Barry Bonds head. Give them the preseason to gel, and currently in the NFL, I do not see another defensive unit, at least another front seven, that I would rather have, hands down.

Just think of it, a quicker, stronger Orakpo with an NFL season already under his belt, w00 h00!!!!!! He could really find his niche with that lineup right there. Man, I wish that D. Snyder would actually do the above. The more I think about it, the more that it makes so much sense, other than the fact that the Chargers might not want to let him go. I also, for that front seven, wouldn't be TOO much against trading Someone like a Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly and a 2011 4th rounder for Merriman, which actually sounds like a fairly feasible deal. Then we could just part ways with some underacheiving waste of roster space, and put Marko Mitchell next to Moss, and let him shine like we all know he can, and will! The Chargers might like and actually utilize a receiver like D. Thomas, and the lack of an OLine and QB on our side could be the reason D. Thomas hasn't performed worth a shit yet. Well, at least that would be our explanation, right????!!!!


Merriman Fletcher R. McIntosh


Orakpo Haynesworth Golston Carter



----- I am starting to drool -----------------

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The Giants have Ahmad Bradshaw as a backup, Eagles have McCoy as a backup, Cowboys have Felix Jones as a backup. We need our own instant playmaker draft CJ Spiller he can return punts and kicks, and the change of pace back that we will need he has a little power but a ton of speed. He can replace Portis!!!

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[quote=Mechanix544;618297]To tell you the truth, I wouldnt mind seeing the skins trade [B]Portis for Merriman straight up[/B]. Isn't he up for FA this offseason???? Easy pickins for D. Snyder there........

Then, go ahead and replace Orakpo with Merriman, and let Orakpo stay at defensive end, his natural kick some ass position. Damn, just thinking about it, this could do absolutely nothing but strengthen the hell out of our already vicious front seven. Let Orakpo get this season under his belt, helping out and refining his speed and agility. Then bring in the young and very talented Merriman, who should carry along with him a chip on his shoulder the size of Barry Bonds head. Give them the preseason to gel, and currently in the NFL, I do not see another defensive unit, at least another front seven, that I would rather have, hands down.

Just think of it, a quicker, stronger Orakpo with an NFL season already under his belt, w00 h00!!!!!! He could really find his niche with that lineup right there. Man, I wish that D. Snyder would actually do the above. The more I think about it, the more that it makes so much sense, other than the fact that the Chargers might not want to let him go. I also, for that front seven, wouldn't be TOO much against trading Someone like a Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly and a 2011 4th rounder for Merriman, which actually sounds like a fairly feasible deal. Then we could just part ways with some underacheiving waste of roster space, and put Marko Mitchell next to Moss, and let him shine like we all know he can, and will! The Chargers might like and actually utilize a receiver like D. Thomas, and the lack of an OLine and QB on our side could be the reason D. Thomas hasn't performed worth a shit yet. Well, at least that would be our explanation, right????!!!!


Merriman Fletcher R. McIntosh


Orakpo Haynesworth Golston Carter



----- I am starting to drool -----------------[/quote]

I would think San Diego would want more than just Portis for Merriman especially since Portis' best years are behind him. But yeah, I'd like to see Merriman here. He might be juiced but he's good.

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[quote=12thMan;618295]I think that's precisely why we should trade him - he still has it. Let's start moving guys out like the Pats do. They're usually a year or two ahead of the player reaching their decline. Portis still has some trade value and I think we can make a move or two.[/quote]
EXACTLY, get something for him and let the wheels fall off with a team NOT beginning with R

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Screw Portis.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;618303]Screw Portis.[/quote]

such eloquence. lol

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Portis is still productive, but by the time you get a new O line formed he will be used up. I say trade Portis and dare I say it, Haynesworth for multiple picks each.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;618299]I would think San Diego would want more than just Portis for Merriman especially since Portis' best years are behind him. But yeah, [B]I'd like to see Merriman here[/B]. He might be juiced but he's good.[/quote]

I think his best days are behind him also, but can he play Left Tackle.....OR even Right Tackle for that matter.

Leave the Defense alone, for now. Address the NEED, that has been neglected for far to long. It ALL starts up front and we have one true starter in this league starting (Dock), the rest of this starting line should be depth for the O-line.

And yes CP best days are LONG GONE. I wish he was trade able, who would take that contract..? No team in there right mind.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;618327]I think his best days are behind him also, but can he play Left Tackle.....OR even Right Tackle for that matter.

Leave the Defense alone, for now. Address the NEED, that has been neglected for far to long. It ALL starts up front and we have one true starter in this league starting (Dock), the rest of this starting line should be depth for the O-line.

And yes CP best days are LONG GONE. I wish he was trade able, who would take that contract..? No team in there right mind.[/quote]

I'm with you. While I don't think Merriman's best days are necessarily behind him, I do question whether or not he has another 18 sack season in him after multiple injuries and getting off the juice.

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I agree trade Portis for Quinn or for a pick so we can draft Toby Gerhart.

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CP is done in WSH.. Next yr we will have a new HC,QB,RB And about 2 new lineman.. I wish it was FEB already..

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[quote=Lotus;618268]what about trading Quinn for Portis?[/quote]
Good call, we could probably get Cleveland to cough up a pick also. This should be one of the first scenarios looked at this off-season by the new GM.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;618379]Good call, we could probably get Cleveland to cough up a pick also. This should be one of the first scenarios looked at this off-season by the new GM.[/quote]

I doubt a pick also, but player for player is possible.. Knowing DS we would be the idiots giving away a pick..

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Who was the rookie tackle that signed with Cleveland a couple of years ago?

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[quote=12thMan;618384]Who was the rookie tackle that signed with Cleveland a couple of years ago?[/quote]

I can't see them trading Joe Thomas for Portis but, hey, I'm not in the Cleveland FO.

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ARE
CP
JC
TC
Rabach
Landry-trade him for picks IMO
Smoot
Moss is near

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Portis has become a locker room liability too, he needs to go. If we could trade him straight up for a decent young QB or a stud lineman, I say go for it.

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[quote=DBUCHANON101;618388]ARE
CP
JC
TC
Rabach
Landry-trade him for picks IMO
Smoot
Moss is near[/quote]

No idea why we ever brought Smoot back. I never thought he was very good.

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I think the Redskins would have to pay another team to take Portis off their hands. Not only has Clinton lost a step, he can't even outrun Mike Sellers, the guy he complains about his blocking skills. Portis is such a distraction with his bickering and his claim that the owner likes him. Maybe that should tell him something. I just hope that we didn't get a Portis twin when we signed DeAngelo Hall. We should have kept Champ Bailey (I know, I've said this before!).

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Which team would be willing to pay Haynesworth what Snyder is paying him? I believe his large contract will end up causing a lot of dissension for the other D-Linemen, as well as some of the linebackers. I would agree to trade Haynesworth and Portis for draft picks, and DeAngelo too.

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F IT! Tell every player on offense to seek a trade and see what we can get.

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[quote=Lotus;618387]I can't see them trading Joe Thomas for Portis but, hey, I'm not in the Cleveland FO.[/quote]

Agreed. Thomas is a very young, franchise LT. Portis is a very old 28, and constantly banged up. I doubt he can be any more productive than Jerome Harrison already is for Cleveland, especially without Joe Thomas.

I wouldn't mind seeing us get Brady Quinn (especially if we have Gruden to develop him) for the right price, but I don't think Portis will be involved.

And I do agree with the article. Portis has worn out his welcome for sure. I'm so over that dude.

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[quote=JLee9718;618403]Which team would be willing to pay Haynesworth what Snyder is paying him? I believe his large contract will end up causing a lot of dissension for the other D-Linemen, as well as some of the linebackers. I would agree to trade Haynesworth and Portis for draft picks, and DeAngelo too.[/quote]

Players I would be willing to trade and get some value for them are:

Moss
Landry
Portis
Carter (I hate to do it but take advantage of good year)
Fred Davis (if he continues to come through like he did Monday)

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;618406]Players I would be willing to trade and get some value for them are:

Moss
Landry
Portis
Carter (I hate to do it but take advantage of good year)
Fred Davis (if he continues to come through like he did Monday)[/quote]

Agree with all of those. Portis needs to go. Carter is north of 30, and we've got Orakpo and Jarmon. Moss is our only receiver worth a shit, but his best years are behind him. Landry is just a big disappointment (we passed on Adrian Peterson for him BTW :doh:). Sadly, if we trade him, we won't get anything close to the value of the 6th overall pick.

This Cooley injury could be a great chance for Davis to audition. Davis was a head scratcher of a pick given that we have Cooley. Davis could be a very good TE, but Cooley is young, durable, and just entering his prime. Not too many #2 TEs put up good numbers, and not too many #2 TEs were drafted as high as the 2nd round. Considering all Campbell can seem to do is dump the ball off, Davis should get his chance over the next month.

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CP will be one of the best Redskins RB of all time. He'll probably hit another 1200 yd season in the tough NFC East.

However, he's getting beat up bad and losing the edge with the poor OL we have had these last few years.

With a new Head Coach and perhaps a GM, I foresee a move to younger, fresher AND CHEAPER legs as a RB. I think Portis, Betts, Cartwright and Sellers will all be gone in a youth movement next season.

CP will eventually make the Ring of Fame for this team.

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[quote=A10sROCK;618429]CP will be one of the best Redskins RB of all time. He'll probably hit another 1200 yd season in the tough NFC East.

However, he's getting beat up bad and losing the edge with the poor OL we have had these last few years.

With a new Head Coach and perhaps a GM, I foresee a move to younger, fresher AND CHEAPER legs as a RB.[B] I think Portis, Betts, Cartwright and Sellers will all be gone in a youth movement next season. [/B]

CP will eventually make the Ring of Fame for this team.[/quote]

Well, we just gave Sellers an extension in the past month or so, so I really doubt we get rid of him next year. As for Portis, Betts, and Cartwright... well, from what I've seen this year, I may actually take Rock over CP and Betts if I had to chose one.

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People saying Portis still has big games left in the tank, what games are you watching? He has done nothing this year to indicate that is the case. It's easy to say the line is bad - it is after all, one of the worst I've ever seen. But people seem to think this lets the QB and the skill positions completely off the hook, even though they have pretty much sucked equally. This is certainly true of Portis, who at this point is nothing more than a body. A chug forward and fall down guy with no lateral movement, no explosiveness, no ability to change direction; basically none of the skills that led him to thrive in Denver's one cut system.

Throw in the fact that he's been a whiny little bitch and you have someone who has gots to go.

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[quote=12thMan;618294]I'd do it. Quinn's young enough, probably still has a ton of potential and could use a change of scenery, and he won't break the bank. And we'll get rid of Portis before the wheels completely fall off and unload what's becoming a yearly renewed contract.[/quote]

Quinn is terrible. He can't drive the ball, his ball floats cause he doesn't have an NFL arm, all he does is check the ball down. Why do you think Mangini is sticking w/ Anderson? Cause Quinn gives them no big play potential. If the line gets fixed around here CP can still carry the load. But he's the biggest diva in the NFL and we'll see if the new coaching staff wants to deal w/ him.

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[quote=djnemo65;618442]People saying Portis still has big games left in the tank, what games are you watching? He has done nothing this year to indicate that is the case. It's easy to say the line is bad - it is after all, one of the worst I've ever seen. But people seem to think this lets the QB and the skill positions completely off the hook, even though they have pretty much sucked equally. This is certainly true of Portis, who at this point is nothing more than a body. A chug forward and fall down guy with no lateral movement, no explosiveness, no ability to change direction; basically none of the skills that led him to thrive in Denver's one cut system.

Throw in the fact that he's been a whiny little bitch and you have someone who has gots to go.[/quote]

He's def a whinny bitch but he's the best we've got. How can he run through holes that aren't there? I'd fix the line and draft a speed back to team up w/ CP.

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[quote=skinsfan69;618448]He's def a whinny bitch but he's the best we've got. How can he run through holes that aren't there? I'd fix the line and draft a speed back to team up w/ CP.[/quote]

There's been big holes that he's not been able to run through. The line's bad but they are still professionals, and on occasion this year they've opened up holes that Portis couldn't hit. He can't make cuts anymore. He's more like an old Shawn Alexander who runs 3 yards and then falls down. The question is what Portis adds to the team moving forward and the answer is clearly nothing. If he is just going to play the role of bulldozer - a meat tenderizer as Corey Dillon described himself once - then we can get that for less than 10 mill per year, and with less distraction.

Bank on it, this guy is dunzo with us after this year.

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If CP still had it, he would've scored on that 78 yard run against KC.