How would Campbell Fit?
 

I'm not a JC fan, first and foremost. However, I had an interesting thought... If we bring in a new coach, who would Campbell be a best fit for in their system. Would Campbell do well under Shannahan, how about under Cowher, Holmgren, Dungy, or Jim Harbaugh. Who's offense is the best fit for JC's game? Please Discuss...

Although I don't like JC for the skins, I'd rather us draft a lineman in the first. If that mean keeping him on the team so be it.

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Besides the o-line, changing offenses has been JC's biggest obstacle to development.

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No way.

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I think even under the circumstances we have now this has been his best season as a pro. Sherm Lewis as also shown us JC can run the WCO effectively & score 20+. I truly believe we would set the development of our younger players back if we didn't continue with the WCO. So my answer is probably Holmgren Sherm Lewis was his coordinator back in the day.

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[quote=53Fan;632127]Besides the o-line, changing offenses has been JC's biggest obstacle to development.[/quote]

true that!!!

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Jc would fit in a system like Pitt's, where their isn't much pressure to complete big passes downfield. Ultimately Campbell is going to be released from this team so it really does'nt matter for us anymore. JC won't resign w us I guarantee it, not after what he went through last offseason and this season.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;632131]I think even under the circumstances we have now this has been his best season as a pro. Sherm Lewis as also shown us JC can run the WCO effectively & score 20+. I truly believe we would set the development of our younger players back if we didn't continue with the WCO. So my answer is probably Holmgren Sherm Lewis was his coordinator back in the day.[/quote]

Holmgren won't join us, didn't u hear him go off on Snyder a few weeks ago?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;632130]No way.[/quote]

Great contribution there. :doh:


I doubt any new coach would keep Campbell as a starter. I think the best situation would be to keep him as a back up. And I hope we have a FO competent enough to put the team in a situation where they either keep him with a inexpensive contract as a back up or get some compensation for him.

That being said, given that we are a bit suspect in the running game, I really don't know how well we will do with any QB behind center. I do hope that the new coach and/or GM will take care of the o-line with the first round pick and find a good running back of the future in the later rounds. As for a QB, I wonder if we could find a good one in the 2nd round.

[quote=skinsfaninok;632133]Jc would fit in a system like Pitt's, where their isn't much pressure to complete big passes downfield. Ultimately Campbell is going to be released from this team so it really does'nt matter for us anymore. [B]JC won't resign w us I guarantee it[/B], not after what he went through last offseason and this season.[/quote]

If he's a restricted free agent, he won't be free to leave unless the team let's him go.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;632135]Holmgren won't join us, didn't u hear him go off on Snyder a few weeks ago?[/quote]

He say who's system would JC fit better not who is going to be the actually coach.

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[quote=Ruhskins;632136]Great contribution there. :doh:


I doubt any new coach would keep Campbell as a starter. I think the best situation would be to keep him as a back up. And I hope we have a FO competent enough to put the team in a situation where they either keep him with a inexpensive contract as a back up or get some compensation for him.

That being said, given that we are a bit suspect in the running game, I really don't know how well we will do with any QB behind center. I do hope that the new coach and/or GM will take care of the o-line with the first round pick and find a good running back of the future in the later rounds. As for a QB, I wonder if we could find a good one in the 2nd round.



If he's a restricted free agent, he won't be free to leave unless the team let's him go.[/quote]


Bulger, Kolb, Anderson and Leinart are the only real options of signing.

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under Shanahan he be best fit, What no one has thought about is that, JC is a decent QB, but he probably go wanna go somewhere and start, so his best chances is to sign a tenure with the Redskins, a 1 year deal, see what happen, under a new coach and better offensive line..... but there isnt to many place he can go and get a starting job soon.

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[quote=Ruhskins;632136]Great contribution there. :doh:


I doubt any new coach would keep Campbell as a starter. I think the best situation would be to keep him as a back up. And I hope we have a FO competent enough to put the team in a situation where they either keep him with a inexpensive contract as a back up or get some compensation for him.

That being said, given that we are a bit suspect in the running game, I really don't know how well we will do with any QB behind center. I do hope that the new coach and/or GM will take care of the o-line with the first round pick and find a good running back of the future in the later rounds. As for a QB, I wonder if we could find a good one in the 2nd round.[/quote]Keeping him as a backup might create a problem, especially since the most likely scenario would be that he would still be the best QB on the roster, but was playing second string because the team is playing for the future.

I really think if they don't invest in Campbell (not necessarily long term, but at least for all of 2010), they have to move him in a trade elsewhere. Even if they can only get a 6th rounder to go somewhere as a backup. We'd be fine with him as the starter in 2010, in fact, it's probably a best case short-term scenario, but if we're going in a different direction, it's probably best for both sides to just move on asap.

And if you are going to invest in him for 2010, the new coach must do so immediately, and not wait until after the draft to see if he can grab a QB of the future.

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Campbell is a Restricted Free Agent, so with that said it would be the GM and HC choice whether to keep him or not. Campbell can't just leave in free Agency unless a team was willing to sign him and compensate us

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After Pennington, Grossman is probably the best of the rest (excluding the RFAs), and he'd be a disaster behind this line as well.

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best case a team like KC or the Raiders sign the sheet for him and we get a pick

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JC is a UFA, he can leave at his own will....

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Hasselbeck and Bulger are likely release candidates.

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[quote=GTripp0012;632147]After Pennington, Grossman is probably the best of the rest (excluding the RFAs), and he'd be a disaster behind this line as well.[/quote]

Pennington is injury prone our o-line is death row a.k.a. waiting to die

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[quote=skinsfaninok;632149]JC is a UFA, he can leave at his own will....[/quote]He's scheduled to be an RFA right now. Any other designation would occur under a new set of CBA terms that doesn't necessarily have to include a free agency designation. We can't treat RFAs as anything but.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;632152]Pennington is injury prone our o-line is death row a.k.a. waiting to die[/quote]Yeah, there's no way he'd last the season. You'd end up five weeks in and with Campbell back under center.

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[quote=Ruhskins;632136]Great contribution there. :doh:


I doubt any new coach would keep Campbell as a starter. I think the best situation would be to keep him as a back up. And I hope we have a FO competent enough to put the team in a situation where they either keep him with a inexpensive contract as a back up or get some compensation for him.

That being said, given that we are a bit suspect in the running game, I really don't know how well we will do with any QB behind center. I do hope that the new coach and/or GM will take care of the o-line with the first round pick and find a good running back of the future in the later rounds. As for a QB, I wonder if we could find a good one in the 2nd round.



If he's a restricted free agent, he won't be free to leave unless the team let's him go.[/quote]
You like that.

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[quote=GTripp0012;632153]He's scheduled to be an RFA right now. Any other designation would occur under a new set of CBA terms that doesn't necessarily have to include a free agency designation. We can't treat RFAs as anything but.[/quote]

I saw that he was an Unrestricted does anyone have an official word on this?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;632157]I saw that he was an Unrestricted does anyone have an official word on this?[/quote]There is no official word yet. Campbell will be an RFA barring something greatly unforeseen. That's what was decided by the owners in 2006.

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ok thanks gtripp

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[quote=skinsfaninok;632133]Jc would fit in a system like Pitt's, where their isn't much pressure to complete big passes downfield. Ultimately Campbell is going to be released from this team so it really does'nt matter for us anymore. JC won't resign w us I guarantee it, not after what he went through last offseason and this season.[/quote]

It's not like Jason has the final say in his destination, wherever that might be. He'll be a restricted FA so his situation is going to depend more on what the team intends to do with him as opposed to what he is going to do. The team has options.

I don't want to get ahead of myself and begin speculating about what's going to happen with Zorn and Campbell. The offseason is going to be an intersting one, just like most of them are around here.

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[quote=Longtimefan;632170]It's not like Jason has the final say in his destination, wherever that might be. He'll be a restricted FA so his situation is going to depend more on what the team intends to do with him as opposed to what he is going to do. The team has options.

I don't want to get ahead of myself and begin speculating about what's going to happen with Zorn and Campbell. [B]The offseason is going to be an intersting one, just like most of them are around here[/B].[/quote]

Ain't that the truth!

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My greatest hope for this season is that some GM of another team sees something in Jason "fighting his guts out" on this abomination of a team and he plays his way out of here. I hope he plays well and makes it even more obvious that He Was Not The Problem. And even then, the haters will find a way to rationalize that It Was All Campbell's Fault.

This team is such a mess, the only thing I can root for now is abject failure, hoping that at some point it hits such a bottom that the only choice is to blow everything up and start from scratch. Whatever the NFL version of starting from scratch is.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;632133]Jc would fit in a system like Pitt's, where their isn't much pressure to complete big passes downfield. Ultimately Campbell is going to be released from this team so it really does'nt matter for us anymore. JC won't resign w us I guarantee it, not after what he went through last offseason and this season.[/quote]
I agree for the most part.. but Roth is able to hit those downfield throws better it seems. Sometimes his receivers have to make a play on the ball.. but he puts it somewhere that they can. Sure JC gets it towards our players in stride a little more to where that's not always as necessary, but he often overthrows them.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;632157]I saw that he was an Unrestricted does anyone have an official word on this?[/quote]It's really quite simple. If the players and owners can't get their act together on the CBA front and 2010 is an uncapped year, Campbell and Rogers will be restricted FAs. If an extension to the CBA is inked, then both will be unrestricted. The former seems most likely.

Campbell is actually playing pretty well under duress the last couple of games. I could definitely see him getting re-signed here for one year in 2010. I actually would like to see what he could do in year 3 of a WCO with adequate protection, but then again, Snyder could very well bring in a coach with a different offensive philosophy, which would be right in tune with the instability that he has brought to the franchise since Day One.

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I would say Shannahan simply because I don't think we run a true WCO and he's a master at it. I'd like Campbell to stay no matter what, maybe not as a starter, but as the 2nd or 3rd string.

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With a top coach like Cowher, Shanahan or Holmgren, plus a solid offensive line, Campbell could easily be top-10 material, possibly a Pro Bowl reserve. Seriously.

Ranked #18 in the league now with linemen off the street (literally), injuries to his top two offensive weapons (Portis and Cooley) and a clown-car coaching approach.

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[quote=Buster;632508]With a top coach like Cowher, Shanahan or Holmgren, plus a solid offensive line, Campbell could easily be top-10 material, possibly a Pro Bowl reserve. Seriously.

Ranked #18 in the league now with linemen off the street (literally), injuries to his top two offensive weapons (Portis and Cooley) and a clown-car coaching approach.[/quote]

You need to take off your Jason Campbell jersey. Seriously.

And the offense has looked BETTER w/out Portis and Cooley.

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[quote=skinsfan69;632625]You need to take off your Jason Campbell jersey. Seriously.

And the offense has looked BETTER w/out Portis and Cooley.[/quote]

portis yes. cooley thats strecthing it a little he is our leading pass catcher, if he were in he would be catching all of fred davis' balls and the ones he has dropped

and buster will die before he removes his campbell jersey

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[quote=Buster;632508]With a top coach like Cowher, Shanahan or Holmgren, plus a solid offensive line, Campbell could easily be top-10 material, possibly a Pro Bowl reserve. Seriously.

Ranked #18 in the league now with linemen off the street (literally), injuries to his top two offensive weapons (Portis and Cooley) and a clown-car coaching approach.[/quote]

Amen to that! Just look at several good QBs NFL today (such as Brees and Saints), they all have great or best offense linemen.. I'm not saying that Campbell would be like Brees, Manning, Favre, or Brady but he definitely would be a level below them, which is still good thing.. Especially with the receivers we are having, if the 3 young guys continue to grow, then I'm definitely going to expect some good things for next season.. This definitely will help Campbell big time..

Although there might be a player who would slow us down next season, and it's Portis.. Don't get me wrong, I love him and the way he had dedicated himself in Redskins career but it's time, we overused him and now he's long in tooth.. We can keep him for passing plays or whatever, but we definitely need new #1 RB.. Whoever that is, Betts or somebody else..

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Whether by choice or not, with Cooley out we are using more receivers on offense and getting them experience

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[quote=GridIron26;632641]Amen to that! Just look at several good QBs NFL today (such as Brees and Saints), they all have great or best offense linemen.. I'm not saying that Campbell would be like Brees, Manning, Favre, or Brady but he definitely would be a level below them, which is still good thing.. Especially with the receivers we are having, [B]if the 3 young guys continue to grow, then I'm definitely going to expect some good things for next season.. This definitely will help Campbell big time..[/B]
Although there might be a player who would slow us down next season, and it's Portis.. Don't get me wrong, I love him and the way he had dedicated himself in Redskins career but it's time, we overused him and now he's long in tooth.. We can keep him for passing plays or whatever, but we definitely need new #1 RB.. Whoever that is, Betts or somebody else..[/quote]

question, how do receivers help accuracy?

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[quote=GTripp0012;632150]Hasselbeck and Bulger are likely release candidates.[/quote]

Either one would not be a bad short term solution.

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[quote=mlmdub130;632647]question, how do receivers help accuracy?[/quote]

By being wider targets. This is why we need to play Haynesworth at WR. :)

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[quote=mlmdub130;632647]question, how do receivers help accuracy?[/quote]

By going up and getting the ball...for instance in the Broncos vs. Dallas game, Orton threw an awful ball that could have easily gotten picked, but B. Marshall made a play got the ball and ran the go ahead TD.

As someone said, most of the time a completion is partly due to the QBs throw but also the WR making a play. Only a few elite QBs can put the ball on the money the majority of the time (and we sure as hell don't have one).