Who is most responsible for the Redskins loss?
 

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Have your say. Vote in our poll at the top left, then get back here tot he Warpath and voice your vote. You can make a case for all 3.

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Suisham. He should be bagging groceries tomorrow.

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Is this even a question?

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Clearly it was Suisham. That is two games he has cost us this season. Those short yarders should be gimmees.

Of course, there could be a case made for the refs.

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Agreed. I voted for Suisham, but a super strong argument can be made for Laron Landry. He bit on two fakes and cost us two TDs. He is a defensive liability. Brees targeted him because he knew it.

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Suisham is a choker when you need a really big kick. Recall the playoffs at Seattle when he missed a 35 yarder that would have put us up 4 in the fourth quarter. It's time to move on and find a kicker who can BOTH kickoff to the opposing goal line and who is money on FGs inside 40 yards. Swishy is neither of those.

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Suisham.

His base salary is 1 MILLION DOLLARS. I don't feel sorry for the shmuck.
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I am reminded of Peyton Manning's words: "Idiot kicker."

I think it is a little unfair to include Landry and Sellers in this poll. Both Landry and Sellers made some very positive contributions towards a win as well as some negative plays. All Swishy has to do is make field goals and he missed on a doggone 23 yarder.

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A few HORRIBLE calls contributed....but Suisham has to make that kick.

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[quote=ethat001;635523]Suisham.

His base salary is 1 MILLION DOLLARS. I don't feel sorry for the shmuck.
[url=http://www.thehogs.net/washington-redskins/salary.php]Washington Redskins Salary Cap Figures[/url][/quote]
wow, 1million dollars, yeah he's not in that league.

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stupid kicker

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Suisham. His kick had no chance and he continues to prove why he's not a reliable kicker when the game counts.

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Suisam... but I agree that Landry= Toast did not help. Can't pin this loss on the O line!

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Not. Even. Close.

Like his friggin kicks.

Oy.

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suisham is a loser! A POX ON HIM

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Easily Suisham.

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why isnt the refs an option?
yeah if suisham had made it whos to say the saints dont do what they did right after that missed kick then recover an onsides kick? if that int would have been called down where he was, then no td before half.. as with that sellers fumble, to me looked like his forarm was down before it came out..

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Landry gave up 2 TDs. Can't blame it all on Suisham. Kareem Moore also gave away another TD. We beat ourselves today. We had the undefeated Saints on the ropes and somehow we hand wrapped them an early Christmas gift. Sellers fumble was also a crucial mistake.

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I can make a case for Landry.

He was beat twice by a double move. Not only should that not happen to your FS but to do it in a 2 minute drill when your up by a TD is INEXCUSEABLE.


There were many things though that just shouldn't have happened like the Barnes punt turnover, the INT-fumble for TD, the missed short FG. It looked as if it was almost scripted for us to lose...I'm pretty pissed.

Our guys played tough, especially our offense so this loss is hard to swallow. Having this poor season, beating the undefeated Saints would have been memorably inspiring for these guys.


...jeez...I'm too bitter right now to even dwell on this.

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Easily Landry. He was a terrible liabilty to the team today. His discipline is atrocious.

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[quote=Skinny Tee;635568]I can make a case for Landry.

[B]He was beat twice by a double move. Not only should that not happen to your FS but to do it in a 2 minute drill when your up by a TD is INEXCUSEABLE.[/B]


There were many things though that just shouldn't have happened like the Barnes punt turnover, the INT-fumble for TD, the missed short FG. It looked as if it was almost scripted for us to lose...I'm pretty pissed.

Our guys played tough, especially our offense so this loss is hard to swallow. Having this poor season, beating the undefeated Saints would have been memorably inspiring for these guys.


...jeez...I'm too bitter right now to even dwell on this.[/quote]

My issue with this is...how many time has this happened to our coverage this season...Desean Jackson....Brandon Marshall...it's like we don't learn from our mistakes.

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Landry

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[quote=Darrell_Green_28;635563][B]why isnt the refs an option?[/B]
yeah if suisham had made it whos to say the saints dont do what they did right after that missed kick then recover an onsides kick? if that int would have been called down where he was, then no td before half.. as with that sellers fumble, to me looked like his forarm was down before it came out..[/quote]

well actually what happend when the ref went under the hood of the replay booth, he then called into a buffalo wild wings in New Orleans and said "Hey guys what should I do about this Sellers 'Fumble,' and they said "well were not ready to leave and we want our undefeated season to remain"....

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The reason we lost this game is because of the suisham and the Redskins curse.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;635578]well actually what happend when the ref went under the hood of the replay booth, he then called into a buffalo wild wings in New Orleans and said "Hey guys what should I do about this Sellers 'Fumble,' and they said "well were not ready to leave and we want our undefeated season to remain"....[/quote]


hahahahaha :lol:

I'm surprised I didnt think of that

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I'm gonna have to go with the option not listed, the refs. Fucking NBA style officiating today.

There's a reason those fucks ran of the field at the end like their life depending on it.

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Giving up 2 touchdowns in my opinion is worse then missing an easy field goal that makes it a two score game. Landry gets my vote.

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cmon

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Shaun "Shankalot" Suisham deserves this award [B]not Landry[/B]. Yes LL got beat twice on doublemoves but if Suisham makes that kick the games over and I don't think LL gets beat. In fairness to Suisham the snap was high and that could've thrown his timing offf, but he's a pro for a reason. Just an irritating loss to knock off an 11-0 team and lose like that is sickening as a fan.

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Suisham has cost us 2 of the last 3 games, cut his ass ASAP. Landry is Fucking moron and I'm sick of his antics every time he makes a play, he thinks it's all about him and his look at me attitude which has worn out his welcome. I hope they trade his ass in the off season, we don't need players like that.

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[quote=vallin21;635597]Shaun "Shankalot" Suisham deserves this award [B]not Landry[/B]. Yes LL got beat twice on doublemoves but if Suisham makes that kick the games over and I don't think LL gets beat. In fairness to Suisham the snap was high and that could've thrown his timing offf, but he's a pro for a reason. Just an irritating loss to knock off an 11-0 team and lose like that is sickening as a fan.[/quote]

Skeesam only missed a FG. Landry gave up 14.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;635605]Suisham has cost us 2 of the last 3 games, cut his ass ASAP. Landry is Fucking moron and I'm sick of his antics every time he makes a play, he thinks it's all about him and his look at me attitude which has worn out his welcome. I hope they trade his ass in the off season, we don't need players like that.[/quote]

and to think we could have gotten adrian peterson...

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;635606]Skeesam only missed a FG. Landry gave up 14.[/quote]

I'm not defending Landry, but if Suisham makes it I'd put money they don't score again. Yeah i'm ticked LL bit and got burned, but if Suisham didn't shank the games over.

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Ref's gave them 14 Points. Suisham Sucks!! and Landry is a POS.........

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The coach is responsible for W and L...Zorn is it.

I was frankly freaking out...why would a coach run a running play with 2:03 left to go on essentially a 3rd and goal at the 5.
There is no advantage of running to run down the clock..only a moron, or a rookie coach would make such a mistake....especially when you are 3-8 going against a 11-0 team...you attack.....mind numbing.
Say what you want about Swishy...but this game was lost by coaching and lame turnovers....more importantly....it was lost because this team continues to believe no matter the situation, they will lose...that is a leadership issue.
This defense continues to blow 4th quarter leads...this in not a solid defense.
Good defenses are defined by how they play with the game on the line...
3 week in a row...they blow the last drive.
incredible....I am resorting to drinking to deal with my anger....not good AT ALL!!

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I know the Saints are an amazing offense, but 3 times our offense had a 10 point lead on them. And our offense scored 30 points for the first time in how long? The defense gets the blame for not holding a lead. And Suisham just oughta get the boot.

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[quote=skinsnut;635618]The coach is responsible for W and L...Zorn is it.

I was frankly freaking out...why would a coach run a running play with 2:03 left to go on essentially a 3rd and goal at the 5.
There is no advantage of running to run down the clock..only a moron, or a rookie coach would make such a mistake....especially when you are 3-8 going against a 11-0 team...you attack.....mind numbing.
Say what you want about Swishy...but this game was lost by coaching and lame turnovers....more importantly....it was lost because this team continues to believe no matter the situation, they will lose...that is a leadership issue.
This defense continues to blow 4th quarter leads...this in not a solid defense.
Good defenses are defined by how they play with the game on the line...
3 week in a row...they blow the last drive.
incredible....I am resorting to drinking to deal with my anger....not good AT ALL!![/quote]

If you want to see bad coaching against the Saints, then watch a replay of last week's Monday Night Football. I can't blame a coach for thinking that his kicker can make a chip shot kick to seal the win.

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[quote=skinsnut;635618]The coach is responsible for W and L...Zorn is it.

I was frankly freaking out...why would a coach run a running play with 2:03 left to go on essentially a 3rd and goal at the 5.
There is no advantage of running to run down the clock..only a moron, or a rookie coach would make such a mistake....especially when you are 3-8 going against a 11-0 team...you attack.....mind numbing.
Say what you want about Swishy...but this game was lost by coaching and lame turnovers....more importantly....it was lost because this team continues to believe no matter the situation, they will lose...that is a leadership issue.
This defense continues to blow 4th quarter leads...this in not a solid defense.
Good defenses are defined by how they play with the game on the line...
3 week in a row...they blow the last drive.
incredible....I am resorting to drinking to deal with my anger....not good AT ALL!![/quote]

good post, I was wondering why we didn't let it go down to the two minute warning, and I wondered why not try a fade right there, time wise an incomplete at that point would not matter. But MOSTLY I agree, the team as a whole just doesn't know how to win. Change that (i don't know how) and We see a much different season next year.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;635622]good post, I was wondering why we didn't let it go down to the two minute warning, and I wondered why not try a fade right there, time wise an incomplete at that point would not matter. But MOSTLY I agree, the team as a whole just doesn't know how to win. Change that (i don't know how) and We see a much different season next year.[/quote]

Well one team is playing for home field advantage throughout the playoffs...and we're playing for pride. Still there were so many intangibles outside of the team's control that it was inside.

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[quote=Ruhskins;635621]If you want to see bad coaching against the Saints, then watch a replay of last week's Monday Night Football. I can't blame a coach for thinking that his kicker can make a chip shot kick to seal the win.[/quote]

hmm...well, although I'd give Gibbs the benefit of the doubt if he called this...Zorn has no such cover...cause his record is pathetic...
But there is no coach that only calls about 10 plays a game....such as this one that cannot reasonably discern the complete lack of "time" advantage of running a play with about 5 seconds left before the 2 minute warning when a typical passing play takes at least that long.

If he though the defensive coordinator was an idiot (gregg williams...ha!)
Then he could have tried play action to see if he could have suckered them in...of course they'd be looking for the bookleg TE...so...something, anything would have been better....I would have gone for a double TE slant..if it wasn't there, I'd do a late flat relase to the RB.

A run was flat out stupid and was nothing less than playing not to lose....yet again.
Zorn is aggressive at the wrong time and is conservative at idiotic times.
Duh!!